I forgave Defoe everything for his devotion to his 'best mate' Bradley. There was nothing false about that, nothing to do with his PR profile - it was 100% genuine and he enriched young Bradley's life immeasurably as well as enriching his own.
I would shake Jermaine's hand warmly if I ever met him.
I know he's only a kid, but even back then Defoe looked like a bell end.
Personally,i am willing to give Defoe a pass on his leaving.It was rumored that there where considerable financial rewards made to his family,so at his young age at the time,he would have had very little say in the matter.I do recall,when he played for Spurs in the game that ultimately relegated us,he scored for them and did not celebrate,as he was entitled to do after the abuse he got from us over the years.Parker was different,he made his own decision to leave at a critical time for our club,and probably cost us European football.
I forgave Defoe everything for his devotion to his 'best mate' Bradley. There was nothing false about that, nothing to do with his PR profile - it was 100% genuine and he enriched young Bradley's life immeasurably as well as enriching his own.
I would shake Jermaine's hand warmly if I ever met him.
I know he's only a kid, but even back then Defoe looked like a bell end.
I think the parents of the poor little lad who supported Sunderland would have a different view.
We always see it from a Charlton perspective though.
Respect to what he did at Sunderland, but when there were rumours he was rumoured to come back I doubt we (the fans) would of been on board.
Same with Parker. Although apparently he still holds Charlton in high regard, doubt we would accept him as manager. (Or warm to him quickly).
Anyway why would we want that when there are people saying he is the second coming of Sean Dyche. Would you want that football back at the Valley? Isn't that what fans were criticising Jones for?!
I don't understand the hatred towards defoe, and as mentioned, he was only 16.
He didn't even play 1st team football for us.
You could blame Harry rednapp for it but that's also kind of pointless.
Curbs was great at signing players because to put extra work in to lure them to Charlton.
Rednab was a twat but that's football for ya and it happened almost 30 years ago
I think it’s partly because of the celebrating in front of us when scoring thing. I know it’s a bit chicken and egg but I honestly don’t remember him getting boos (relatively) before he started doing that.
He was getting booed as he was warming up a sub during the 4-4 game! I couldn't care less about him celebrating scoring a goal for his club.
Was that his first game then? I don’t remember. Neither could I, but someone said they didn’t understand it so I’m suggesting that as a possible reason.
I don't understand the hatred towards defoe, and as mentioned, he was only 16.
He didn't even play 1st team football for us.
You could blame Harry rednapp for it but that's also kind of pointless.
Curbs was great at signing players because to put extra work in to lure them to Charlton.
Rednab was a twat but that's football for ya and it happened almost 30 years ago
I think it’s partly because of the celebrating in front of us when scoring thing. I know it’s a bit chicken and egg but I honestly don’t remember him getting boos (relatively) before he started doing that.
He was getting booed as he was warming up a sub during the 4-4 game! I couldn't care less about him celebrating scoring a goal for his club.
Was that his first game then? I don’t remember. Neither could I, but someone said they didn’t understand it so I’m suggesting that as a possible reason.
Not sure, but it was when he was breaking into the first team after scoring a load on loan at Bournemouth. We half expected him to score that night but no one saw Paul Kitson getting a hatrick!
Parker is a good manager in the Championship with clubs like Burnley and Fulham who have way more resource than other championship clubs. Parker is a poor manager in the PL with clubs like Burnley who have much less money than other PL clubs.
overall I think he is an average manager who performs to the budget of his club and the division they are in.
as for thoughts on Parker and / or Defoe, I don’t like either for the way they left us. Maybe that’s irrational and unfair but for me football is wonderful because of the partisan emotion it brings, as irrational as that often is.
Putting aside Parker throwing his toys out the pram , he just comes across as a miserable fucker to me , although still best player to come out of our academy imo.
I know he's only a kid, but even back then Defoe looked like a bell end.
Personally,i am willing to give Defoe a pass on his leaving.It was rumored that there where considerable financial rewards made to his family,so at his young age at the time,he would have had very little say in the matter.I do recall,when he played for Spurs in the game that ultimately relegated us,he scored for them and did not celebrate,as he was entitled to do after the abuse he got from us over the years.Parker was different,he made his own decision to leave at a critical time for our club,and probably cost us European football.
Not what I would call a celebration more like an acknowledgement that he had scored,after the crap he took from the fans over the years,he was probably entitled to lap the pitch a few times.
Scott Parker - a very competitive hardworking passionate bloke who lives and breathes football.
He is also a wanker who spends most of his daily life completely lost up his own rectum. He is not a Charlton man. Unfortunately we found that part out the hard way some 20 odd years ago.
Case closed.
I do hope he continues to achieve success at manager level. He is English and is still ex Charlton. I think he regrets what he did.
The grass is always greener and the potential of lots of money enhanced the actions of a wanker within.
Keep learning and working hard at your graft Scott. You lil midget.
Scott Parker - a very competitive hardworking passionate bloke who lives and breathes football.
He is also a wanker who spends most of his daily life completely lost up his own rectum. He is not a Charlton man. Unfortunately we found that part out the hard way some 20 odd years ago.
Case closed.
I do hope he continues to achieve success at manager level. He is English and is still ex Charlton. I think he regrets what he did.
The grass is always greener and the potential of lots of money enhanced the actions of a wanker within.
Keep learning and working hard at your graft Scott. You lil midget.
Not a chance once he looks at the spiralling bank balance for the next few years.
But if he’s motivated by money as you suggest, then surely he does regret the move because he could have made so much more money had he moved to the right club at the right time.
Burnley's solidity this season IS very impressive, and reflects well on his coaching as it's not something he inherited from Kompany's side.
That solidity and mindset should give them a better chance of survival next season than the 3 teams who went up last season, who've been horribly exposed at the back.
Burnley's solidity this season IS very impressive, and reflects well on his coaching as it's not something he inherited from Kompany's side.
That solidity and mindset should give them a better chance of survival next season than the 3 teams who went up last season, who've been horribly exposed at the back.
Heard discussions on a couple of radio stations recently where it’s been suggested promoted teams are going to have to change the way they approach the PL for a few seasons. Need to be a lot tighter defensively, ditch playing out from the back and basically grind out results. If not the same three will go down the first season they are up, rinse and repeat.
Scott Parker - a very competitive hardworking passionate bloke who lives and breathes football.
He is also a wanker who spends most of his daily life completely lost up his own rectum. He is not a Charlton man. Unfortunately we found that part out the hard way some 20 odd years ago.
Case closed.
I do hope he continues to achieve success at manager level. He is English and is still ex Charlton. I think he regrets what he did.
The grass is always greener and the potential of lots of money enhanced the actions of a wanker within.
Keep learning and working hard at your graft Scott. You lil midget.
Not a chance once he looks at the spiralling bank balance for the next few years.
There is more to life than money, but aside from that, he would have had a spiraling bank balance minus 6 months had he left in the summer. I don't think there would have been a deal of difference.
But if he’s motivated by money as you suggest, then surely he does regret the move because he could have made so much more money had he moved to the right club at the right time.
Not trying to protect Parker here (I was devastated when he left mid season) but we have no idea what he was promised by Chelsea. Maybe they convinced him he was going to be the main man and therefore were ‘the right club’.
But if he’s motivated by money as you suggest, then surely he does regret the move because he could have made so much more money had he moved to the right club at the right time.
Not trying to protect Parker here (I was devastated when he left mid season) but we have no idea what he was promised by Chelsea. Maybe they convinced him he was going to be the main man and therefore were ‘the right club’.
He was never going to be the main man at Chelski - they had arguably the best defensive midfielder in the world at the time in Makelele and as good as Parker was he was never going to be ahead of Makelele. All they could promise him was ££££s
There was a vacancy at Old Trafford six months later and I'm sure Sir Alex would have been interested in Parker replacing Keane.
Parker was a wanker then, and he's still a wanker now.
Apart from Parker's obvious connection with us, the spanners must love the fact that three of the teams that could influence their destiny today are managed by players (namely Parker, Carrick and Lampard) who used to play for the club they hate the most.
I'm not a fan of Parker because of the way he left us and I'm convinced if he'd stayed we'd have got European football the following season and he'd have got a big move in the summer with all our blessings, and a more beneficial move for him to boot. He should have become an England mainstay for a good few years.
I'm over it a bit now and can appreciate he's become a decent manager. I hope he keeps Burnley up because I don't think it's beneficial for the three promoted teams to get relegated again first season, keeps happening and the PL will become a closed shop and we can all stop dreaming. Plus I don't mind Burnley as a club myself.
But if he’s motivated by money as you suggest, then surely he does regret the move because he could have made so much more money had he moved to the right club at the right time.
I'm not a fan of Parker because of the way he left us and I'm convinced if he'd stayed we'd have got European football the following season and he'd have got a big move in the summer with all our blessings, and a more beneficial move for him to boot. He should have become an England mainstay for a good few years.
I'm over it a bit now and can appreciate he's become a decent manager. I hope he keeps Burnley up because I don't think it's beneficial for the three promoted teams to get relegated again first season, keeps happening and the PL will become a closed shop and we can all stop dreaming. Plus I don't mind Burnley as a club myself.
But if he’s motivated by money as you suggest, then surely he does regret the move because he could have made so much more money had he moved to the right club at the right time.
Not trying to protect Parker here (I was devastated when he left mid season) but we have no idea what he was promised by Chelsea. Maybe they convinced him he was going to be the main man and therefore were ‘the right club’.
He was never going to be the main man at Chelski - they had arguably the best defensive midfielder in the world at the time in Makelele and as good as Parker was he was never going to be ahead of Makelele. All they could promise him was ££££s
There was a vacancy at Old Trafford six months later and I'm sure Sir Alex would have been interested in Parker replacing Keane.
Parker was a wanker then, and he's still a wanker now.
I doubt he cares as he went on to have a very good career and captained England, but he should have held on and joined Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal. Chelsea only wanted him to stop us having him.
But if he’s motivated by money as you suggest, then surely he does regret the move because he could have made so much more money had he moved to the right club at the right time.
Not trying to protect Parker here (I was devastated when he left mid season) but we have no idea what he was promised by Chelsea. Maybe they convinced him he was going to be the main man and therefore were ‘the right club’.
He was never going to be the main man at Chelski - they had arguably the best defensive midfielder in the world at the time in Makelele and as good as Parker was he was never going to be ahead of Makelele. All they could promise him was ££££s
There was a vacancy at Old Trafford six months later and I'm sure Sir Alex would have been interested in Parker replacing Keane.
Parker was a wanker then, and he's still a wanker now.
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I think the parents of the poor little lad who supported Sunderland would have a different view.
I think the parents of the poor little lad who supported Sunderland would have a different view.
All day long.
Respect to what he did at Sunderland, but when there were rumours he was rumoured to come back I doubt we (the fans) would of been on board.
Same with Parker. Although apparently he still holds Charlton in high regard, doubt we would accept him as manager. (Or warm to him quickly).
Anyway why would we want that when there are people saying he is the second coming of Sean Dyche. Would you want that football back at the Valley? Isn't that what fans were criticising Jones for?!
Parker is a poor manager in the PL with clubs like Burnley who have much less money than other PL clubs.
overall I think he is an average manager who performs to the budget of his club and the division they are in.
as for thoughts on Parker and / or Defoe, I don’t like either for the way they left us. Maybe that’s irrational and unfair but for me football is wonderful because of the partisan emotion it brings, as irrational as that often is.
He is also a wanker who spends most of his daily life completely lost up his own rectum. He is not a Charlton man. Unfortunately we found that part out the hard way some 20 odd years ago.
Case closed.
I do hope he continues to achieve success at manager level. He is English and is still ex Charlton. I think he regrets what he did.
The grass is always greener and the potential of lots of money enhanced the actions of a wanker within.
Keep learning and working hard at your graft Scott. You lil midget.
That solidity and mindset should give them a better chance of survival next season than the 3 teams who went up last season, who've been horribly exposed at the back.
There is more to life than money, but aside from that, he would have had a spiraling bank balance minus 6 months had he left in the summer. I don't think there would have been a deal of difference.
With the exception of our brief spell with Simonsen - I agree.
I'm over it a bit now and can appreciate he's become a decent manager. I hope he keeps Burnley up because I don't think it's beneficial for the three promoted teams to get relegated again first season, keeps happening and the PL will become a closed shop and we can all stop dreaming. Plus I don't mind Burnley as a club myself.