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Will We Win the Playoffs?
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fenlandaddick said:NJ has peppered the team with players who have experience in the playoffs, their guidance to the younger players will be an important factor.
I think we tend to overestimate things like that - play off games are two teams of 11 a side playing for 90 minutes (120 minutes), and the winners are the ones who score the most goals.1 -
Oh no, you've rung the golfie alarmbobmunro said:fenlandaddick said:NJ has peppered the team with players who have experience in the playoffs, their guidance to the younger players will be an important factor.
I think we tend to overestimate things like that - play off games are two teams of 11 a side playing for 90 minutes (120 minutes), and the winners are the ones who score the most goals.5 -
fenaddick said:
Oh no, you've rung the golfie alarmbobmunro said:fenlandaddick said:NJ has peppered the team with players who have experience in the playoffs, their guidance to the younger players will be an important factor.
I think we tend to overestimate things like that - play off games are two teams of 11 a side playing for 90 minutes (120 minutes), and the winners are the ones who score the most goals.
I'll take 0-0, 1-0, 1-0 in our next three games ;-)8 -
Don’t think we will …. Said that around Xmas that get our injuries sorted we will make the play offs but don’t think we would win them …I am
not changing my thinking ….. not sure why people wanted Wycombe we beaten them twice it’s going to be very tough to beat a team 3 times in a season … just think the little niggles we been getting and the tiredness in some of the players may have caught up with us .. and in all honesty are we championship ready the answer is no, is it ever to early to get promoted ( unless you get 90 mill parachute money ) ? Will it do us more harm than good to go up and come straight back down?
Whatever happens the players, management and the owners deserve massive credit and if we are league one again then we have a squad that just needs adding to with 3/4 very good starters coming in, plus of course gives our excellent young players another year to push into the first team, where promotion might see the young players suffer in their progress..
COYR.…. Give it your best guys one last big effort
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Football is governed by the football gods. And they have a dark sense of humour. After a thumping 4-0 away win in a promotion six pointer, they will find it amusing that just weeks later, Charlton will loose on penalties after two goalless draws.Remember how they punished Pardew for his silly dance.1
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Does anyone know if Charlton tv will be playing the semis and final (if we get there)?0
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I also have some worries about pens. We havent had all that many this season and we have conceded every one against us.
I have a couple rules on pens that generally seem to hold up in shootouts. 1) A player has to have been "in the game" to take a pen. A player coming on "cold" and barely touch the ball before the shootout is not something that usually ends well. The occasion can be too much to adapt to in that situation. If you want to bring someone on to take a pen give them 10 mins on the pitch first to adapt to the atmosphere and get some touches.
2) experience over flair. No problem with young players taking pens but they have to be core players not squad players. TC for example I would expect to be in the mix to take one if he's still on the pitch. But Kanu/Mbick etc. I wouldn't want to. The second part of it is experienced defenders are underrated in shootouts. Keepers don't know where they're gonna go and often they just nail it rather than over complicate it.
Godden is good for a pen. Expect Doc to step up as skipper. Gilly and Berry as regular set piece takers and experienced. Outside of that TC is an option, Cov maybe? I worry about Chuks keeping a cool head with the pressure he has been putting on himself to score and impact games. Ramsay is a pretty decent shout has exceptional technique. Can see Jones taking the "just nail it" approach. Edwards maybe. Not confident in Small or Karoy. Gilbert is an option as he takes a good dead ball but I worry about the experience/temprament point. Wouldn't want any of our young bench strikers to take one.
I expect they've tacked shootout training on to every session since playoffs were confirmed.6 -
In writing that I think I've convinced myself that depending on who's still on the pitch it should be 5 of: Godden, Berry, Gilly, Cov, Doc, Ramsay.cantersaddick said:I also have some worries about pens. We havent had all that many this season and we have conceded every one against us.
I have a couple rules on pens that generally seem to hold up in shootouts. 1) A player has to have been "in the game" to take a pen. A player coming on "cold" and barely touch the ball before the shootout is not something that usually ends well. The occasion can be too much to adapt to in that situation. If you want to bring someone on to take a pen give them 10 mins on the pitch first to adapt to the atmosphere and get some touches.
2) experience over flair. No problem with young players taking pens but they have to be core players not squad players. TC for example I would expect to be in the mix to take one if he's still on the pitch. But Kanu/Mbick etc. I wouldn't want to. The second part of it is experienced defenders are underrated in shootouts. Keepers don't know where they're gonna go and often they just nail it rather than over complicate it.
Godden is good for a pen. Expect Doc to step up as skipper. Gilly and Berry as regular set piece takers and experienced. Outside of that TC is an option, Cov maybe? I worry about Chuks keeping a cool head with the pressure he has been putting on himself to score and impact games. Ramsay is a pretty decent shout has exceptional technique. Can see Jones taking the "just nail it" approach. Edwards maybe. Not confident in Small or Karoy. Gilbert is an option as he takes a good dead ball but I worry about the experience/temprament point. Wouldn't want any of our young bench strikers to take one.5 -
1.Could need more than 5 penalty takers.cantersaddick said:
In writing that I think I've convinced myself that depending on who's still on the pitch it should be 5 of: Godden, Berry, Gilly, Cov, Doc, Ramsay.cantersaddick said:I also have some worries about pens. We havent had all that many this season and we have conceded every one against us.
I have a couple rules on pens that generally seem to hold up in shootouts. 1) A player has to have been "in the game" to take a pen. A player coming on "cold" and barely touch the ball before the shootout is not something that usually ends well. The occasion can be too much to adapt to in that situation. If you want to bring someone on to take a pen give them 10 mins on the pitch first to adapt to the atmosphere and get some touches.
2) experience over flair. No problem with young players taking pens but they have to be core players not squad players. TC for example I would expect to be in the mix to take one if he's still on the pitch. But Kanu/Mbick etc. I wouldn't want to. The second part of it is experienced defenders are underrated in shootouts. Keepers don't know where they're gonna go and often they just nail it rather than over complicate it.
Godden is good for a pen. Expect Doc to step up as skipper. Gilly and Berry as regular set piece takers and experienced. Outside of that TC is an option, Cov maybe? I worry about Chuks keeping a cool head with the pressure he has been putting on himself to score and impact games. Ramsay is a pretty decent shout has exceptional technique. Can see Jones taking the "just nail it" approach. Edwards maybe. Not confident in Small or Karoy. Gilbert is an option as he takes a good dead ball but I worry about the experience/temprament point. Wouldn't want any of our young bench strikers to take one.
2. As far as I can remember Aneke failed to score his last pen (at the Valley). Someone may have scored from the rebound.
3. As much as I admire TC , I would wonder whether he has the temperament to take one.
4. They all should be practicing.
5. Still scarred by Nicky Baileys miss, and terrified by Shaun Newtons pen, still convinced he's going to fluff it.0 -
As long as one of the oppo's penalty takers is Michael Gray we're home and hosed.
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If more than those 6 are needed either due to sudden death or some not being on the pitch I guess the next in line would be Jones, Aneke, Gilbert, Edwards. Then if really needed Karoy, Small, Kanu.KingKinsella said:
1.Could need more than 5 penalty takers.cantersaddick said:
In writing that I think I've convinced myself that depending on who's still on the pitch it should be 5 of: Godden, Berry, Gilly, Cov, Doc, Ramsay.cantersaddick said:I also have some worries about pens. We havent had all that many this season and we have conceded every one against us.
I have a couple rules on pens that generally seem to hold up in shootouts. 1) A player has to have been "in the game" to take a pen. A player coming on "cold" and barely touch the ball before the shootout is not something that usually ends well. The occasion can be too much to adapt to in that situation. If you want to bring someone on to take a pen give them 10 mins on the pitch first to adapt to the atmosphere and get some touches.
2) experience over flair. No problem with young players taking pens but they have to be core players not squad players. TC for example I would expect to be in the mix to take one if he's still on the pitch. But Kanu/Mbick etc. I wouldn't want to. The second part of it is experienced defenders are underrated in shootouts. Keepers don't know where they're gonna go and often they just nail it rather than over complicate it.
Godden is good for a pen. Expect Doc to step up as skipper. Gilly and Berry as regular set piece takers and experienced. Outside of that TC is an option, Cov maybe? I worry about Chuks keeping a cool head with the pressure he has been putting on himself to score and impact games. Ramsay is a pretty decent shout has exceptional technique. Can see Jones taking the "just nail it" approach. Edwards maybe. Not confident in Small or Karoy. Gilbert is an option as he takes a good dead ball but I worry about the experience/temprament point. Wouldn't want any of our young bench strikers to take one.
2. As far as I can remember Aneke failed to score his last pen (at the Valley). Someone may have scored from the rebound.
3. As much as I admire TC , I would wonder whether he has the temperament to take one.
4. They all should be practicing.
5. Still scarred by Nicky Baileys miss, and terrified by Shaun Newtons pen, still convinced he's going to fluff it.
Again just my opinion based on the points I made above about what I think works in a shootout and my perceptions of the squad.0 -
I never expect us to win playoffs but always hope we do. Nothing has changed this year.
Earlier in the year I thought we'd narrowly miss out on the playoffs. Instead we narrowly missed out on automatic promotion.
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TCs penalty history is not great. I am not convinced he should take it. Jones showed vs Wycombe he has a decent strike and Gillesphy has to take one. I reckon Godden, Jones, Gilly, doc, Berry.0
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Wouldn’t have TC anywhere near a pen as much as I love him3
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This TC is a very different, more assured finisher than the one that started the season. I’d have no issues with him taking one in a shoot out0
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Sam Vokes out of the Play offs for Wycombe too.
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TC reminds me too much of Saka - love them both to bits but prefer to keep them away from spot kicks.2
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yes if we have the injured players back, otherwise in grave doubt.1
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Anyone heard anything about Kone. Did not play Saturday.0
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This is my view. This playoff place is for me a huge bonus. When NJ joined I thought that this season was going to be a bit too soon for him to do his stuff. I expected us to be just falling short of 6th place. By October I wasn’t at all convinced he was going to get it right at all. Didn’t want him sacked because we do need to keep our managers longer than ten minutes. Should we fail this time around I’m now fairly sure that we’ll be up there competing top six and if Jones is given some support in the window then challenging top two.Scoham said:I never expect us to win playoffs but always hope we do. Nothing has changed this year.
Earlier in the year I thought we'd narrowly miss out on the playoffs. Instead we narrowly missed out on automatic promotion.7 -
Don't know: Too many variables like fitness of CAFC main players - are we now on our reserve tank- and cafc fans who think that Wycombe will be as mediocre as they were at the valley plus as poor as they were at Home in the 4-0 drubbing may be in for a surprise?
But on the other hand the wheels may have come off for Wycombe where we just have a slow junction; while we have the AA* main man, Golden Godden we are still on the right road and moving into the fast lane.0 -
I think we will approach Wycombe differently in terms of how we approached them recently. This is because we had to win that game and we don't have to win the next one. This will affect Wycombe too where they may feel less pressure to go for it so there being a second leg creates a whole new dynamic for both sides.soapboxsam said:Don't know: Too many variables like fitness of CAFC main players - are we now on our reserve tank- and cafc fans who think that Wycombe will be as mediocre as they were at the valley plus as poor as they were at Home in the 4-0 drubbing may be in for a surprise?
But on the other hand the wheels may have come off for Wycombe where we just have a slow junction; while we have the AA* main man, Golden Godden we are still on the right road and moving into the fast lane.3 -
MuttleyCAFC said:
I think we will approach Wycombe differently in terms of how we approached them recently. This is because we had to win that game and we don't have to win the next one. This will affect Wycombe too where they may feel less pressure to go for it so there being a second leg creates a whole new dynamic for both sides.soapboxsam said:Don't know: Too many variables like fitness of CAFC main players - are we now on our reserve tank- and cafc fans who think that Wycombe will be as mediocre as they were at the valley plus as poor as they were at Home in the 4-0 drubbing may be in for a surprise?
But on the other hand the wheels may have come off for Wycombe where we just have a slow junction; while we have the AA* main man, Golden Godden we are still on the right road and moving into the fast lane.
Certainly a different dynamic to this nearly 200 minutes contest compared to when we had to win at Wycombe and this first leg could be very tight.
Both teams could just spar for the 1st half and then up the ante in the 2nd half.
No bad luck and we can bring it back to the Valley at least level.
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We won't win without Berry, Small and Jones0
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Ok? At least 2 of them rested for the final game of the season, Berry is the one that hasn't trained for a few days but we have a week to get him back up to speedLeaburn Forever said:We won't win without Berry, Small and Jones0 -
Jones was limping when he walked up to get his award on Saturday.sam3110 said:
Ok? At least 2 of them rested for the final game of the season, Berry is the one that hasn't trained for a few days but we have a week to get him back up to speedLeaburn Forever said:We won't win without Berry, Small and Jones1 -
No he wasn’tmsomerton said:
Jones was limping when he walked up to get his award on Saturday.sam3110 said:
Ok? At least 2 of them rested for the final game of the season, Berry is the one that hasn't trained for a few days but we have a week to get him back up to speedLeaburn Forever said:We won't win without Berry, Small and Jones5
