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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,030
    The weather on Saturday doesn't look great, so the Sunday spectators might get to see some play!
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,122
    Addick Addict said:
    golfaddick said:
    Didn't realise it's a 4 day Test match. Why's that ? 

    (And dont say because Zimbabwe are crap & it wont go past the 4th day).

    Next day is a Bank Holiday - it will look really stupid if it ends a draw when a 5th day would produce a result. 
    It's because Zimbabwe are crap and it won't go past the 4th day (unless it rains that is).

    The Test is only there because of the ECB's contractual obligation to Sky to have six Test matches a year here. The ECB is also paying the visitors a tour fee in lieu of a reciprocal trip not sitting in the future tours programme. Zimbabwe are hanging around afterwards to play a 4-day game against South Africa at Arundel as a warm up for the latter's World Test Championship Final. 
    As a local to Arundel I hope that game with South Africa is not behind closed doors and they let spectators in. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,030
    That reminds me, I'd forgotten about the Test Championship final at Lord's. Tickets are still available, and much cheaper than if England had been playing (or indeed if India had made the final).
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,759
    Team confirmed, Bashir getting another chance

    Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook, Stokes (c), Smith (wk), Atkinson, Tongue, Cook, Bashir
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,122
    Great to see what Cook can do but that's a very inexperienced bowling attack even against Zimbabwe. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,030
    Can Stokes bowl? I've lost track of where he is with his fitness.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,812
    edited May 20
    killerandflash said:
    The weather on Saturday doesn't look great, so the Sunday spectators might get to see some play!
    Not if they are at Wembley.....🤬
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,812
    fenaddick said:
    Team confirmed, Bashir getting another chance

    Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook, Stokes (c), Smith (wk), Atkinson, Tongue, Cook, Bashir
    How many of those bowlers will be in Australia in 6 months time? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,759
    golfaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Team confirmed, Bashir getting another chance

    Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook, Stokes (c), Smith (wk), Atkinson, Tongue, Cook, Bashir
    How many of those bowlers will be in Australia in 6 months time? 
    My guess is Atkinson, Tongue and Bashir will. Whether they deserve to be is a different question
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,012
    killerandflash said:
    Can Stokes bowl? I've lost track of where he is with his fitness.
    Read that he'd said he was confident he will.

    I'm skeptical.

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,030
    North Lower Neil said:
    killerandflash said:
    Can Stokes bowl? I've lost track of where he is with his fitness.
    Read that he'd said he was confident he will.

    I'm skeptical.
    And does that mean he can both 8 straight overs 1st change, or come on in the 75th over to bowl a couple of fill in overs before the new ball?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,122
    edited May 20
    Would expect Atkinson and Tongue to make the Ashes squad. Cook looked good down under for the Lions figures wise but would expect they'll go Wood/Carse instead with Potts as Cover 

    Bashir baffles me. Zimbabwe was a chance to get a look at a few different options and we've only got 1. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,012
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would expect Atkinson and Tongue to make the Ashes squad. Cook looked good down under for the Lions figures wise but would expect they'll go Wood/Carse instead with Potts as Cover 

    Bashir baffles me. Zimbabwe was a chance to get a look at a few different options and we've only got 1. 
    Equally it was a chance to look at Rew which they should have taken.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,122
    North Lower Neil said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would expect Atkinson and Tongue to make the Ashes squad. Cook looked good down under for the Lions figures wise but would expect they'll go Wood/Carse instead with Potts as Cover 

    Bashir baffles me. Zimbabwe was a chance to get a look at a few different options and we've only got 1. 
    Equally it was a chance to look at Rew which they should have taken.
    Would have had a look at James Rew and Tom Haines, the form Crawley is in isn't worth bothering with and if Jordan Cox is always going to be injured we need to see what's around in the middle order. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,934
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would expect Atkinson and Tongue to make the Ashes squad. Cook looked good down under for the Lions figures wise but would expect they'll go Wood/Carse instead with Potts as Cover 

    Bashir baffles me. Zimbabwe was a chance to get a look at a few different options and we've only got 1. 
    Bashir 2-304 this season and hasn't bowled a ball in anger for five weeks. It's not his fault, of course, but central contracts were, I thought, designed for England to control when a player is available for his county and to stop all those franchises stealing our players. I'm not quite sure how Bashir fits in those respects given neither his county or franchises actually want him and the only place he gets to learn his game is playing for England. Which is probably the very reason why he has been selected against Zimbabwe.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,759
    Archer has injured his thumb which rules him out of the ODI's, Luke Wood replaces him
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,012
    Archer injured?

    Feel like I've heard that once or twice before.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,122
    So frustrating. Probably won't see him for Sussex now this season , makes Chuks look fit. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,122


    Interesting Lions squad to play India A , Rocky Flintoff is the only weird pick for me but I guess his dad is in charge. 

    James Rew (Somerset)
    Farhan Ahmed (Nottinghamshire)
    Rehan Ahmed (Leicestershire)
    Sonny Baker (Hampshire)
    Jordan Cox (Essex)
    Rocky Flintoff (Lancashire)
    Emilio Gay (Durham)
    Tom Haines (Sussex)
    George Hill (Yorkshire)
    Josh Hull (Leicestershire)
    Eddie Jack (Hampshire)
    Ben McKinney (Durham)
    Dan Mousley (Warwickshire)
    Ajeet Singh Dale (Gloucestershire)
    Chris Woakes (Warwickshire
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,030
    Has an older player than Woakes ever played for the Lions?

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  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    edited May 22
    Zimbabwe win the toss and decide to bowl lots of pressure on Crawley now, he needs to have a big Innings!!!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,759
    Redmidland said:
    Zimbabwe win the toss and decide to bowl lots of pressure on Crawley now, he needs to have a big Innings!!!
    Especially with what Stokes said about Bethell, pressure on Pope too
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,722
    edited May 22
    Redmidland said:
    Zimbabwe win the toss and decide to bowl lots of pressure on Crawley now, he needs to have a big Innings!!!
    Zak taking an early opportunity to chip up a chance for a c&b off an innocuous delivery
    Already on his highest first innings score of the season, 2nd division attacks having been too much for him to cope with in Kent colours
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,759
    Duckett has his half century. 93-0
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,759
    And now Crawley has his, 116-0
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,030
    edited May 22
    fenaddick said:
    And now Crawley has his, 116-0
    It's the cricket equivalent of a European Championship qualifier against Luxembourg. A game you're expected to win easily, and one where any personal achievements tend to be disregarded...
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,012
    Easing us into the summer I guess, but you wonder if Crawley/Pope could keep their place over Bethell with a score here then still struggle v India.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,759
    killerandflash said:
    fenaddick said:
    And now Crawley has his, 116-0
    It's the cricket equivalent of a European Championship qualifier against Luxembourg. A game you're expected to win, and one where any personal achievements tend to be disregarded...
    You can’t gain ground by achieving but you can certainly lose it by underachieving. If Pope comes out and scores in the single digits he’ll get pilloried, would have been the same for Crawley. There’s still pressure, it’s just different 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,759
    Lunch, 130/0
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,030
    fenaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    fenaddick said:
    And now Crawley has his, 116-0
    It's the cricket equivalent of a European Championship qualifier against Luxembourg. A game you're expected to win, and one where any personal achievements tend to be disregarded...
    You can’t gain ground by achieving but you can certainly lose it by underachieving. If Pope comes out and scores in the single digits he’ll get pilloried, would have been the same for Crawley. There’s still pressure, it’s just different 
    It's definite pressure for strugglers, as you fail you get crucified, but if you score runs, then everyone says "it's only Zimbabwe".

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