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ULTIMATE MATCH PREVIEW: Charlton Athletic vs Leyton Orient | Sunday 25th May - 1pm KO

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  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,223

  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,599

    Get in there then mate and Celebrate...🙄
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,037
    I've got to be honest, I'm not usually a fan of the match preview threads. Aside from the opening posts which are invariably excellent, there's a tendency for the discussions themselves to quickly descend into a seemingly endless round of personal predictions, betting odds and petty prejudices about players who may, or may not, get picked.

    This one's different though. This one's special. As well as FA's magnificent opening, the quality of posting has been sky high; nearly everyone has pulled out all the stops to give us their best insights, displaying considerable knowledge and footballing nous in the process. There have been several posts so careful and comprehensive in their analysis that they would make make good opening match previews themselves. I can't imagine many club forums being able to produce a match preview thread of such quality. Charlton Life at its absolute best.

    Bearing all that in mind, here is my own carefully considered contribution: 1-1 at full time, 3-1 to Charlton AET.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    Don’t think this will be a pretty game. Orient have the ability to play nice stuff but NJ will want to turn this into a physical battle as we have stronger, fitter and bigger players. Orient will need to go into the last 15 mins at least 1/2 up if they are to win. Our CBs should get some chances from set pieces if our delivery is good enough and the idea of REG having to deal with either TC or Godden and then Aneke gives me some confidence. 

    Orient do have pace, notably Agyei but he tends to play on the right where we are defensively solid. 

    I’m slightly worried about our CBs giving away a penalty at a set piece. They aren’t as blatant as Beckles have been but they do love a wrestle. Gillesphey used to do this all over the pitch but part of his upturn in form has come from him going for the ball and not the man. 

    I think we’ll just about have too much for them but if we score it will either be in the first or last 15 mins. The 60 in between could be incredibly painful to watch. 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,528
    fenaddick said:
    Don’t think this will be a pretty game. Orient have the ability to play nice stuff but NJ will want to turn this into a physical battle as we have stronger, fitter and bigger players. Orient will need to go into the last 15 mins at least 1/2 up if they are to win. Our CBs should get some chances from set pieces if our delivery is good enough and the idea of REG having to deal with either TC or Godden and then Aneke gives me some confidence. 

    Orient do have pace, notably Agyei but he tends to play on the right where we are defensively solid. 

    I’m slightly worried about our CBs giving away a penalty at a set piece. They aren’t as blatant as Beckles have been but they do love a wrestle. Gillesphey used to do this all over the pitch but part of his upturn in form has come from him going for the ball and not the man. 

    I think we’ll just about have too much for them but if we score it will either be in the first or last 15 mins. The 60 in between could be incredibly painful to watch. 
    On paper and analysis this reads spot on to me 
  • jose
    jose Posts: 630
    For brevity I would say that the danger from Leyton Orient is they play good progressive football in an effective style and have forwards, including Kelman of course, who can hurt you. They must not be underestimated.
    However a feature of our play this season is we usually finish games stronger than our opponents, so if we can keep Leyton Orient out we might be much stronger at the finish.
    Possibly the two factors that will be significant are the known long throws from Edwards, and the unknown (for us) impact of the VAR system.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    Will this game be live on Charlton TV or only on Sky?
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,599
    ross1 said:
    Will this game be live on Charlton TV or only on Sky?
    Hopefully on both, Sky commentary seems to be dire....
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    edited May 22
    fenaddick said:
    Don’t think this will be a pretty game. Orient have the ability to play nice stuff but NJ will want to turn this into a physical battle as we have stronger, fitter and bigger players. Orient will need to go into the last 15 mins at least 1/2 up if they are to win. Our CBs should get some chances from set pieces if our delivery is good enough and the idea of REG having to deal with either TC or Godden and then Aneke gives me some confidence. 

    Orient do have pace, notably Agyei but he tends to play on the right where we are defensively solid. 

    I’m slightly worried about our CBs giving away a penalty at a set piece. They aren’t as blatant as Beckles have been but they do love a wrestle. Gillesphey used to do this all over the pitch but part of his upturn in form has come from him going for the ball and not the man. 

    I think we’ll just about have too much for them but if we score it will either be in the first or last 15 mins. The 60 in between could be incredibly painful to watch. 
    The 2019 match wasn't pretty either. Apart from the goals there wasn't too much goal mouth action. Phillip's saved one early on (finger-tip save round the post) and Lyle Taylor had a dipping volley yards over the bar. Apart from routine catches from corners that was about it.

    If Bauer hadn't had scored when he did & it went into extra time (and probably pens) it wouldn't be seen the way it is now. 

    1998 was obviously much different. Goals a plenty, the lead changing hands, goals in extra time etc etc - but football much much different then. That game was on Sky a few days ago & I showed my son the first 15/20 mins. No passing around the back & certainly no goal keeper giving the ball to a defender from a goal kick. The ball was played quicker & with more purpose. Played today & there would be no hat trick hero. 
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,428
    fenaddick said:
    Don’t think this will be a pretty game. Orient have the ability to play nice stuff but NJ will want to turn this into a physical battle as we have stronger, fitter and bigger players. Orient will need to go into the last 15 mins at least 1/2 up if they are to win. Our CBs should get some chances from set pieces if our delivery is good enough and the idea of REG having to deal with either TC or Godden and then Aneke gives me some confidence. 

    Orient do have pace, notably Agyei but he tends to play on the right where we are defensively solid. 

    I’m slightly worried about our CBs giving away a penalty at a set piece. They aren’t as blatant as Beckles have been but they do love a wrestle. Gillesphey used to do this all over the pitch but part of his upturn in form has come from him going for the ball and not the man. 

    I think we’ll just about have too much for them but if we score it will either be in the first or last 15 mins. The 60 in between could be incredibly painful to watch. 
    The 2019 match wasn't pretty either. Apart from the goals there wasn't too much goal mouth action. Phillip's saved one early on (finger-tip save round the post) and Lyle Taylor had a dipping volley yards over the bar. Apart from routine catches from corners that was about it.

    If Bauer hadn't had scored when he did & it went into extra time (and probably pens) it wouldn't be seen the way it is now. 

    1998 was obviously much different. Goals a plenty, the lead changing hands, goals in extra time etc etc - but football much much different then. That game was on Sky a few days ago & I showed my son the first 15/20 mins. No passing around the back & certainly no goal keeper giving the ball to a defender from a goal kick. The ball was played quicker & with more purpose. Played today & there would be no hat trick hero. 
    VAR would also chalk off the Rufus goal potentially as the keeper was blocked. VAR would also possibly chalk off the 2019 winning goal as a foul on the CB. 

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
    I’ve obviously missed this but why is the official kick-off time 1.01pm?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    I’ve obviously missed this but why is the official kick-off time 1.01pm?
    Delayed by a minute to BHF’s Every Minute Matters campaign which aims to teach people how to perform CPR
  • el-pietro
    el-pietro Posts: 611
    fenaddick said:
    Don’t think this will be a pretty game. Orient have the ability to play nice stuff but NJ will want to turn this into a physical battle as we have stronger, fitter and bigger players. Orient will need to go into the last 15 mins at least 1/2 up if they are to win. Our CBs should get some chances from set pieces if our delivery is good enough and the idea of REG having to deal with either TC or Godden and then Aneke gives me some confidence. 

    Orient do have pace, notably Agyei but he tends to play on the right where we are defensively solid. 

    I’m slightly worried about our CBs giving away a penalty at a set piece. They aren’t as blatant as Beckles have been but they do love a wrestle. Gillesphey used to do this all over the pitch but part of his upturn in form has come from him going for the ball and not the man. 

    I think we’ll just about have too much for them but if we score it will either be in the first or last 15 mins. The 60 in between could be incredibly painful to watch. 
    The 2019 match wasn't pretty either. Apart from the goals there wasn't too much goal mouth action. Phillip's saved one early on (finger-tip save round the post) and Lyle Taylor had a dipping volley yards over the bar. Apart from routine catches from corners that was about it.

    If Bauer hadn't had scored when he did & it went into extra time (and probably pens) it wouldn't be seen the way it is now. 

    1998 was obviously much different. Goals a plenty, the lead changing hands, goals in extra time etc etc - but football much much different then. That game was on Sky a few days ago & I showed my son the first 15/20 mins. No passing around the back & certainly no goal keeper giving the ball to a defender from a goal kick. The ball was played quicker & with more purpose. Played today & there would be no hat trick hero. 
    Would have been a half dozen red cards too!
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,577
    Not the Top 20 preview. For no logical reason they have gone for Orient.

    I am getting more and more nervous as the day approaches. We've never been favourites in our 3 wins. Orient really have nothing to lose.  So many of our fans seems to think we only need to lace our boots to win. Bringing my daughter and brother in law.

    COYR 

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/7131huLfZmdKWF9TVkNe3F?si=jRV3S1y5StG8epkX29DKYw
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,897
    edited May 22
    We were mentioned on Richard Osman’s House of Games this week.

    And I’ve just seen a train spotter at London Bridge with binoculars.

    Good omens, surely.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
    Kap10 said:
    Not the Top 20 preview. For no logical reason they have gone for Orient.

    I am getting more and more nervous as the day approaches. We've never been favourites in our 3 wins. Orient really have nothing to lose.  So many of our fans seems to think we only need to lace our boots to win. Bringing my daughter and brother in law.

    COYR 

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/7131huLfZmdKWF9TVkNe3F?si=jRV3S1y5StG8epkX29DKYw
    Who cares what the media think. How many times in our past have they underestimated this club? Most of them haven’t even seen us play. 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,737
    edited May 22
    On Saturday afternoon my wife and I are going to see the new Tom Cruise film, Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning.

    I've not seen a trailer or read anything about it but I think the story starts in early December last year with Tom Cruise revealing that his Ethan Hunt character is actually the alter ego of a manic Welshman called Jones. The film then charts the struggles to see his team through to the desired conclusion culminating in the "Final Reckoning" at Wembley.

    The film co-stars Ving Rhames as Curtis Fleming, Hayley Attwell as Tracey Leaburn and Simon Pegg as Matty Godden. The running time is almost three hours which makes me wonder whether that's including extra-time and possibly penalties.

    Should be a ripper!
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,360
    Scoham said:
    So who invited our new Canadian fan to join them in a box at Wembley?

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJ1-mDJoMyQ/?igsh=MWM5Z2pkejYwcXMzag==
    That Canadian friend is already talking about going to a Millwall game. 

    Gave him a shirt, presumably a Wembley ticket and now he's openly discussing going to a game at our local rivals.

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdhU35SW/

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJ7RFwjIQEl/?igsh=MWxxNHo3cTVneWt2Yg==

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  • ArmchairAddick
    ArmchairAddick Posts: 419
    conleylad said:
    this is my  first  post apart  from saying i will wear the  1947  cup  final shirt. my father took  me  first time  to the valley in 1953  and  since then  i have  experienced the highs  and lows of  followingthe addicks   and   you know  some of the lows have been accute in the last  few years .  I saw the  7-6 huddersfield game but also cried  all the way home when we lost 4-3  to blackburn in 57 i think it was, only needing a draw  to  go  straight back to league  1 as it was then. Im very nervous  about sunday but that  comes from seasons of disappointment , what I will say is I think that what the manager has brought is  hope , hope  for a  brighter  tomorrow  irrespective of sundays  result for the  club /team/supporters. Play offs  area  lottery ,  a slip  a missed chance   an off day  and its  done . I will continue  to  follow  the reds    robins  addicks whahtever,   whilst there is still breath in me .  Really  really  hope and pray  for  our win ., none of this " I just want to enjoy the  day. I  want us  to win "  for all our sakes
    best post on the thread
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    This advert is sending shivers down my spine 

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  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    Scoham said:
    Thanks for putting that up, Scoham.

    As far as Sunday goes, Fanny's still numb -  no sense, no feeling ?

    But watching that piece, there were goosebumps all over ....

    Not QUITE a Tingle, but slowly getting there  :)
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    conleylad said:
    this is my  first  post apart  from saying i will wear the  1947  cup  final shirt. my father took  me  first time  to the valley in 1953  and  since then  i have  experienced the highs  and lows of  followingthe addicks   and   you know  some of the lows have been accute in the last  few years .  I saw the  7-6 huddersfield game but also cried  all the way home when we lost 4-3  to blackburn in 57 i think it was, only needing a draw  to  go  straight back to league  1 as it was then. Im very nervous  about sunday but that  comes from seasons of disappointment , what I will say is I think that what the manager has brought is  hope , hope  for a  brighter  tomorrow  irrespective of sundays  result for the  club /team/supporters. Play offs  area  lottery ,  a slip  a missed chance   an off day  and its  done . I will continue  to  follow  the reds    robins  addicks whahtever,   whilst there is still breath in me .  Really  really  hope and pray  for  our win ., none of this " I just want to enjoy the  day. I  want us  to win "  for all our sakes
    Is that you, Brian ?  B)
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,276
    Dave2l said:
    If Ramsey is getting closed down, he decides to turn around and play it safe to Mannion.

    I'll cover my eyes 
    One of the coolest defenders i have seen playing for us. In fact the only defensive risk i think we have (and it's not a big one imo) is when our keeper comes out and mis-positions himself for a back pass. My worry is more about getting outplayed in midfield, or going into our shells for the big occasion.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Dave2l said:
    If Ramsey is getting closed down, he decides to turn around and play it safe to Mannion.

    I'll cover my eyes 
    One of the coolest defenders i have seen playing for us. In fact the only defensive risk i think we have (and it's not a big one imo) is when our keeper comes out and mis-positions himself for a back pass. My worry is more about getting outplayed in midfield, or going into our shells for the big occasion.

    Yeh he's great from what I've seen of him.

    Not in direct reference to him as a player at all, just that he's on the back line.

    The Dillon Phillips and (forgotton his name) og at wembley 6 years ago was possibly one of the most shocking Charlton moments to witness.

    The rest of the match at least made it more forgettable, but still.