But the point is people didn’t buy before the unknown deadline.
It doesn’t matter they could. They did not.
If the financial saving isn’t there because for many they know they will miss some games the need/benefit of a ST is not great. Buying online after all means it is relatively easy to buy match by match.
Well how come I knew there was a deadline, there always is, every year fans have until a certain date in the future to buy the next seasons ticket at last seasons final price. This year it was Friday 2nd of May.
I refer to the price hike upon promotion.
Is that the price hike that wasn’t suggested or communicated to anyone?
It was not communicated before. No such message that said the price goes up if we get promoted.
Why 15.000? Why not 30,000 or 50,000? It’s all equally meaningless.
Only Sunderland are likely to have 50000 season ticket holders **, but then they're all mad up there, my wife comes from there too.
** I do appreciate there are a few more clubs that have those sort of numbers, but only Sunderland had the unused ground capacity before the coming season. I think they're up to 36000 now
Very good post but nobody pays at the turnstile anymore, I can log on and buy a match ticket any day of the week and get into the ground as quickly as any season ticket holder
I appreciate that no-one pays at the turnstiles now, I was just saying that was just one of my original reasons for getting a season ticket. But plenty still buy on the day, I have to avoid the big queue at the ticket office every match. But I also don't have to remember to buy and print my ticket in advance before every game either.
You can tap in with the image on your phone (those with email tickets on their phones). No need to waste expensive ink and paper.
In my innocence I had always assumed that people who bought season tickets and traveled the country going to away games did that because they wanted to. I’m only just finding out that it’s actually an enormous act of sacrifice and self denial, so I will be more respectful in future.
We do it coz we want to but let’s also remember there would be no club if everybody just attended the odd game they fancied
All this talk of whether you get better value from a season ticket and it might go from £16 to x a match etc etc. Then looking at how much you can watch on the telly. And "I cant get to night games or Sunday games or...." boo hoo hoo. You do know what "support" means dont you? No wonder that old tart called us customers.
Your comments annoyed me, then I thought about it and you have a point.
I think we have all been impacted by the Belgian days. They didn't give a shit about us or have any ambitions for the club. So many of us then had a mindset of following Charlton but without wanting to hand over unnecessary cash that was destined for his pocket.
We need to get beyond that and regain our combined passion. I think that we may be heading in the right direction.
It annoyed me, mainly because to accuse fans of not being fans, or offering less support, because they have financial considerations, is absolute bollocks.
Agreed. But I think, and I’m sure I’m right, that a lot of the people moaning are not skint or whatever but just penny pinching or being twats. And I think we’ve been a bit conditioned into this behaviour by recent circumstances.
Why should I buy a season ticket for something that doesn't suit me? Why should I go to football if it doesn't suit me? I'll go to the games that suit me. If it makes me less of a supporter then so be.
I think the term for u is fairweather
What's your view on cup games? Are you "fairweather" if you choose not to go to them for any reason when neither money nor ability to actually get to the game is an issue?
I don’t go to the early rounds any more because they are treated like reserve matches and I wont attend the pisstake papa johns or whatever - im fairweather when it comes to the cup for those reasons - never used to be
Vicious cycle. The club doesn't open the whole ground because people don't turn up. People don't turn up because the club is only opening part of the ground.
All this talk of whether you get better value from a season ticket and it might go from £16 to x a match etc etc. Then looking at how much you can watch on the telly. And "I cant get to night games or Sunday games or...." boo hoo hoo. You do know what "support" means dont you? No wonder that old tart called us customers.
Your comments annoyed me, then I thought about it and you have a point.
I think we have all been impacted by the Belgian days. They didn't give a shit about us or have any ambitions for the club. So many of us then had a mindset of following Charlton but without wanting to hand over unnecessary cash that was destined for his pocket.
We need to get beyond that and regain our combined passion. I think that we may be heading in the right direction.
It annoyed me, mainly because to accuse fans of not being fans, or offering less support, because they have financial considerations, is absolute bollocks.
Agreed. But I think, and I’m sure I’m right, that a lot of the people moaning are not skint or whatever but just penny pinching or being twats. And I think we’ve been a bit conditioned into this behaviour by recent circumstances.
Why should I buy a season ticket for something that doesn't suit me? Why should I go to football if it doesn't suit me? I'll go to the games that suit me. If it makes me less of a supporter then so be.
I think the term for u is fairweather
What's your view on cup games? Are you "fairweather" if you choose not to go to them for any reason when neither money nor ability to actually get to the game is an issue?
I don’t go to the early rounds any more because they are treated like reserve matches and I wont attend the pisstake papa johns or whatever - im fairweather when it comes to the cup for those reasons - never used to be
Vicious cycle. The club doesn't open the whole ground because people don't turn up. People don't turn up because the club is only opening part of the ground.
You honestly think that fans don't bother with these matches because not all stands are open?
All this talk of whether you get better value from a season ticket and it might go from £16 to x a match etc etc. Then looking at how much you can watch on the telly. And "I cant get to night games or Sunday games or...." boo hoo hoo. You do know what "support" means dont you? No wonder that old tart called us customers.
Your comments annoyed me, then I thought about it and you have a point.
I think we have all been impacted by the Belgian days. They didn't give a shit about us or have any ambitions for the club. So many of us then had a mindset of following Charlton but without wanting to hand over unnecessary cash that was destined for his pocket.
We need to get beyond that and regain our combined passion. I think that we may be heading in the right direction.
It annoyed me, mainly because to accuse fans of not being fans, or offering less support, because they have financial considerations, is absolute bollocks.
Agreed. But I think, and I’m sure I’m right, that a lot of the people moaning are not skint or whatever but just penny pinching or being twats. And I think we’ve been a bit conditioned into this behaviour by recent circumstances.
Why should I buy a season ticket for something that doesn't suit me? Why should I go to football if it doesn't suit me? I'll go to the games that suit me. If it makes me less of a supporter then so be.
I think the term for u is fairweather
What's your view on cup games? Are you "fairweather" if you choose not to go to them for any reason when neither money nor ability to actually get to the game is an issue?
I don’t go to the early rounds any more because they are treated like reserve matches and I wont attend the pisstake papa johns or whatever - im fairweather when it comes to the cup for those reasons - never used to be
Vicious cycle. The club doesn't open the whole ground because people don't turn up. People don't turn up because the club is only opening part of the ground.
So what about all the empty seats in the parts of the ground that are open, why aren't those seats filled?
Back to slagging off fans because they don't buy 24 tickets knowing they can only use 8, love it. Same people probably refuse to buy merch because shirts are for kids.
All this talk of whether you get better value from a season ticket and it might go from £16 to x a match etc etc. Then looking at how much you can watch on the telly. And "I cant get to night games or Sunday games or...." boo hoo hoo. You do know what "support" means dont you? No wonder that old tart called us customers.
Your comments annoyed me, then I thought about it and you have a point.
I think we have all been impacted by the Belgian days. They didn't give a shit about us or have any ambitions for the club. So many of us then had a mindset of following Charlton but without wanting to hand over unnecessary cash that was destined for his pocket.
We need to get beyond that and regain our combined passion. I think that we may be heading in the right direction.
It annoyed me, mainly because to accuse fans of not being fans, or offering less support, because they have financial considerations, is absolute bollocks.
Agreed. But I think, and I’m sure I’m right, that a lot of the people moaning are not skint or whatever but just penny pinching or being twats. And I think we’ve been a bit conditioned into this behaviour by recent circumstances.
Why should I buy a season ticket for something that doesn't suit me? Why should I go to football if it doesn't suit me? I'll go to the games that suit me. If it makes me less of a supporter then so be.
I think the term for u is fairweather
What's your view on cup games? Are you "fairweather" if you choose not to go to them for any reason when neither money nor ability to actually get to the game is an issue?
I don’t go to the early rounds any more because they are treated like reserve matches and I wont attend the pisstake papa johns or whatever - im fairweather when it comes to the cup for those reasons - never used to be
Vicious cycle. The club doesn't open the whole ground because people don't turn up. People don't turn up because the club is only opening part of the ground.
You honestly think that fans don't bother with these matches because not all stands are open?
Basically, yes. Not just because of the stands being closed but the whole approach to cup games sends out a powerful message to fans (and probably the players as well) that the club doesn’t give a shit about them. I still go to the cup games but it pisses me off when there is just the one catering outlet, sometimes two of we are lucky. On a freezing cold December (or January this season) something to eat (even if you are not hungry) and a drink makes all the difference.
Back to slagging off fans because they don't buy 24 tickets knowing they can only use 8, love it. Same people probably refuse to buy merch because shirts are for kids.
TBF, they are definitely not designed for adults that have more than an ounce of fat on them
Back to slagging off fans because they don't buy 24 tickets knowing they can only use 8, love it. Same people probably refuse to buy merch because shirts are for kids.
TBF, they are definitely not designed for adults that have more than an ounce of fat on them
Shouldn't matter if they are intending to wear them or not, a true fan would just get the wallet out and spend.
But the point is people didn’t buy before the unknown deadline.
It doesn’t matter they could. They did not.
If the financial saving isn’t there because for many they know they will miss some games the need/benefit of a ST is not great. Buying online after all means it is relatively easy to buy match by match.
Well how come I knew there was a deadline, there always is, every year fans have until a certain date in the future to buy the next seasons ticket at last seasons final price. This year it was Friday 2nd of May.
I refer to the price hike upon promotion.
Is that the price hike that wasn’t suggested or communicated to anyone?
It was not communicated before. No such message that said the price goes up if we get promoted.
Exactly. But according to some on here you could “read between the lines” and therefore those that didn’t buy before are fair game for price rises.
It was an error of communication and commercial judgement by the club in my opinion.
All this talk of whether you get better value from a season ticket and it might go from £16 to x a match etc etc. Then looking at how much you can watch on the telly. And "I cant get to night games or Sunday games or...." boo hoo hoo. You do know what "support" means dont you? No wonder that old tart called us customers.
Your comments annoyed me, then I thought about it and you have a point.
I think we have all been impacted by the Belgian days. They didn't give a shit about us or have any ambitions for the club. So many of us then had a mindset of following Charlton but without wanting to hand over unnecessary cash that was destined for his pocket.
We need to get beyond that and regain our combined passion. I think that we may be heading in the right direction.
It annoyed me, mainly because to accuse fans of not being fans, or offering less support, because they have financial considerations, is absolute bollocks.
Agreed. But I think, and I’m sure I’m right, that a lot of the people moaning are not skint or whatever but just penny pinching or being twats. And I think we’ve been a bit conditioned into this behaviour by recent circumstances.
Why should I buy a season ticket for something that doesn't suit me? Why should I go to football if it doesn't suit me? I'll go to the games that suit me. If it makes me less of a supporter then so be.
I think the term for u is fairweather
What's your view on cup games? Are you "fairweather" if you choose not to go to them for any reason when neither money nor ability to actually get to the game is an issue?
I don’t go to the early rounds any more because they are treated like reserve matches and I wont attend the pisstake papa johns or whatever - im fairweather when it comes to the cup for those reasons - never used to be
Vicious cycle. The club doesn't open the whole ground because people don't turn up. People don't turn up because the club is only opening part of the ground.
You honestly think that fans don't bother with these matches because not all stands are open?
Yes, I i think that when some fans see we've only opened the lower CE and lower west, it gives the impression it's not a big game and people dont bother turning up.
To be clear, I'm referring to FA cup matches not papa johns or whether the LDV trophy is called at the moment.
All this talk of whether you get better value from a season ticket and it might go from £16 to x a match etc etc. Then looking at how much you can watch on the telly. And "I cant get to night games or Sunday games or...." boo hoo hoo. You do know what "support" means dont you? No wonder that old tart called us customers.
Your comments annoyed me, then I thought about it and you have a point.
I think we have all been impacted by the Belgian days. They didn't give a shit about us or have any ambitions for the club. So many of us then had a mindset of following Charlton but without wanting to hand over unnecessary cash that was destined for his pocket.
We need to get beyond that and regain our combined passion. I think that we may be heading in the right direction.
It annoyed me, mainly because to accuse fans of not being fans, or offering less support, because they have financial considerations, is absolute bollocks.
Agreed. But I think, and I’m sure I’m right, that a lot of the people moaning are not skint or whatever but just penny pinching or being twats. And I think we’ve been a bit conditioned into this behaviour by recent circumstances.
Why should I buy a season ticket for something that doesn't suit me? Why should I go to football if it doesn't suit me? I'll go to the games that suit me. If it makes me less of a supporter then so be.
I think the term for u is fairweather
What's your view on cup games? Are you "fairweather" if you choose not to go to them for any reason when neither money nor ability to actually get to the game is an issue?
I don’t go to the early rounds any more because they are treated like reserve matches and I wont attend the pisstake papa johns or whatever - im fairweather when it comes to the cup for those reasons - never used to be
Vicious cycle. The club doesn't open the whole ground because people don't turn up. People don't turn up because the club is only opening part of the ground.
You honestly think that fans don't bother with these matches because not all stands are open?
Yes, I i think that when some fans see we've only opened the lower CE and lower west, it gives the impression it's not a big game and people dont bother turning up.
To be clear, I'm referring to FA cup matches not papa johns or whether the LDV trophy is called at the moment.
Personally I can't wait for the EFL trophy games this coming season.
CombeMartin said: One other thing, all the moaning about season ticket prices going up. If you'd bought a ticket when they were first offered, and from what I can see the zone 2 ones (the ones being mainly moaned about) were available for £485 and as your saying they're now £550 and that's a price increase of £90 so they must have been £460 last year, so your price increase would have been only £25. (£485 - £460)
You might have read the whole thread but you haven't grasped that the 'moaning' wasn't mainly about the price increase to existing season ticket holders. I renewed early at £460 (same price as last year).
1 - The 'moaning' was because of the unannounced price increase to £550 the morning directly after the play off final victory. In a stroke it cut off any likely jump in sales to prospective new season ticket holders riding the wave of euphoria following the Wembley match. CAFC will still have about 7K empty seats for most matches next season. The opportunity was there to fill a significant number of those empty seats with new season ticket holders who in recent seasons would have attended a limited number of games at The Valley.
All it needed was a 2 week window at the £485 price to turbo charge sales but that unannounced price increase blew it. The price increase will have likely generated an extra £150 - 200K in revenue but I still maintain that figure would have been overtaken by the extra money generated by an additional circa 3K bums on seats.
2 - The serious 'moaning' from existing season ticket holders will come next year when our renewal price starts at £550. Scrapping around at the arse end of the Championship might result in a few not renewing.
One other thing, all the moaning about season ticket prices going up. If you'd bought a ticket when they were first offered, and from what I can see the zone 2 ones (the ones being mainly moaned about) were available for £485 and as your saying they're now £550 and that's a price increase of £90 so they must have been £460 last year, so your price increase would have been only £25. (£485 - £460)
You might have read the whole thread but you haven't grasped that the 'moaning' wasn't mainly about the price increase to existing season ticket holders. I renewed early at £460 (same price as last year).
1 - The 'moaning' was because of the unannounced price increase to £550 the morning directly after the play off final victory. In a stroke it cut off any likely jump in sales to new season ticket holders riding the wave of euphoria following the Wembley match. CAFC will still have about 7K empty seats for most matches next season. The opportunity was there to fill a significant number of those empty seats with new season ticket holders who in recent seasons would have attended a limited number of games at The Valley.
All it needed was a 2 week window at the £485 price to turbo charge sales but that unannounced price increase blew it. The price increase will have likely generated an extra £150 - 200K in revenue but I still maintain that figure would have been overtaken by the extra money generated by an additional circa 3K bums on seats.
2 - The serious 'moaning' from existing season ticket holders will come next year when our renewal price starts at £550. Scrapping around at the arse end of the Championship might result in a few not renewing.
Bang on there's about 12 of us friends and family who have had season tickets last few years on and off not including myself and bro who have had one for about 7 seasons now in a row and only 2 of those 12 have renewed soo far.
It was a kick In the teeth one day after the final tbh I would have renewed very soon after but had a hangover then see the jump and thought how cheeky couldn't even give it a week or so at better price.have mentioned before it's ok for some but I usually get my dad's ticket too and it all adds up in the end,getting emails to renew season ticket even before the current season had even ended and we are all forking out for play off matches,shirts and a wemberly trip.
Then small gets let go, if our billionaire owners maybe got 2 or 3 in the door or put there hands in their pockets proper I will have some belief we won't get pumped every week with a team that has maybe 4-5 at best possible championship players.will probably be suckered in though and renew 30 mins before first game of season as usual ))
Back to slagging off fans because they don't buy 24 tickets knowing they can only use 8, love it. Same people probably refuse to buy merch because shirts are for kids.
The owners deserve no less than 15,000 season ticket owners …… all these diehard fans that suddenly appeared we should have no trouble reaching that target …
Never seen you at an away game. You do not attend many.
CombeMartin said: One other thing, all the moaning about season ticket prices going up. If you'd bought a ticket when they were first offered, and from what I can see the zone 2 ones (the ones being mainly moaned about) were available for £485 and as your saying they're now £550 and that's a price increase of £90 so they must have been £460 last year, so your price increase would have been only £25. (£485 - £460)
You might have read the whole thread but you haven't grasped that the 'moaning' wasn't mainly about the price increase to existing season ticket holders. I renewed early at £460 (same price as last year).
1 - The 'moaning' was because of the unannounced price increase to £550 the morning directly after the play off final victory. In a stroke it cut off any likely jump in sales to prospective new season ticket holders riding the wave of euphoria following the Wembley match. CAFC will still have about 7K empty seats for most matches next season. The opportunity was there to fill a significant number of those empty seats with new season ticket holders who in recent seasons would have attended a limited number of games at The Valley.
All it needed was a 2 week window at the £485 price to turbo charge sales but that unannounced price increase blew it. The price increase will have likely generated an extra £150 - 200K in revenue but I still maintain that figure would have been overtaken by the extra money generated by an additional circa 3K bums on seats.
2 - The serious 'moaning' from existing season ticket holders will come next year when our renewal price starts at £550. Scrapping around at the arse end of the Championship might result in a few not renewing.
Spot on that last bit. I will be looking seriously at whether I renew next season and I even renewed during lock down.
Just thought, if the club continue to increase season ticket prices by the same proption every season. Then I just under 5 years the price for what is the most common charged will have reached £1000.
CombeMartin said: One other thing, all the moaning about season ticket prices going up. If you'd bought a ticket when they were first offered, and from what I can see the zone 2 ones (the ones being mainly moaned about) were available for £485 and as your saying they're now £550 and that's a price increase of £90 so they must have been £460 last year, so your price increase would have been only £25. (£485 - £460)
You might have read the whole thread but you haven't grasped that the 'moaning' wasn't mainly about the price increase to existing season ticket holders. I renewed early at £460 (same price as last year).
1 - The 'moaning' was because of the unannounced price increase to £550 the morning directly after the play off final victory. In a stroke it cut off any likely jump in sales to prospective new season ticket holders riding the wave of euphoria following the Wembley match. CAFC will still have about 7K empty seats for most matches next season. The opportunity was there to fill a significant number of those empty seats with new season ticket holders who in recent seasons would have attended a limited number of games at The Valley.
All it needed was a 2 week window at the £485 price to turbo charge sales but that unannounced price increase blew it. The price increase will have likely generated an extra £150 - 200K in revenue but I still maintain that figure would have been overtaken by the extra money generated by an additional circa 3K bums on seats.
2 - The serious 'moaning' from existing season ticket holders will come next year when our renewal price starts at £550. Scrapping around at the arse end of the Championship might result in a few not renewing.
I’d like the Fan Advisors, Fan Advisory Board or CAST to ask what was the thinking behind the immediate £90 price hike. I’m sure it would have put off a number of potential purchasers. Also, why was no one consulted, especially the Fan Advisory Board otherwise what’s the point of it?
All this talk of whether you get better value from a season ticket and it might go from £16 to x a match etc etc. Then looking at how much you can watch on the telly. And "I cant get to night games or Sunday games or...." boo hoo hoo. You do know what "support" means dont you? No wonder that old tart called us customers.
Your comments annoyed me, then I thought about it and you have a point.
I think we have all been impacted by the Belgian days. They didn't give a shit about us or have any ambitions for the club. So many of us then had a mindset of following Charlton but without wanting to hand over unnecessary cash that was destined for his pocket.
We need to get beyond that and regain our combined passion. I think that we may be heading in the right direction.
It annoyed me, mainly because to accuse fans of not being fans, or offering less support, because they have financial considerations, is absolute bollocks.
Agreed. But I think, and I’m sure I’m right, that a lot of the people moaning are not skint or whatever but just penny pinching or being twats. And I think we’ve been a bit conditioned into this behaviour by recent circumstances.
Why should I buy a season ticket for something that doesn't suit me? Why should I go to football if it doesn't suit me? I'll go to the games that suit me. If it makes me less of a supporter then so be.
I think the term for u is fairweather
What's your view on cup games? Are you "fairweather" if you choose not to go to them for any reason when neither money nor ability to actually get to the game is an issue?
I don’t go to the early rounds any more because they are treated like reserve matches and I wont attend the pisstake papa johns or whatever - im fairweather when it comes to the cup for those reasons - never used to be
Vicious cycle. The club doesn't open the whole ground because people don't turn up. People don't turn up because the club is only opening part of the ground.
You honestly think that fans don't bother with these matches because not all stands are open?
Basically, yes. Not just because of the stands being closed but the whole approach to cup games sends out a powerful message to fans (and probably the players as well) that the club doesn’t give a shit about them. I still go to the cup games but it pisses me off when there is just the one catering outlet, sometimes two of we are lucky. On a freezing cold December (or January this season) something to eat (even if you are not hungry) and a drink makes all the difference.
I maybe wrong, because I couldn't be arsed to go, but weren't all the stands for the Full Members Cup matches at Selhurst available? Our lowest ever attendances of around 800, even when the next match was Wembley.
I was at the Halifax Tuesday night game at The Valley with just 3k there for a league game, no closed stands then either.
If the football, price and competition is attractive, people will want to attend.
I was going to buy 3 season tickets for me and family but living in Dorset it would only be for Saturday games as very poor late evening train service, so no point, just buy tickets per match
12k S/T holders would great for the club and the atmosphere at the Valley. How many 1/2 S/T do we sell? If we are going well and having a real go at the league, would another 500 be a fair figure?
I've read through this entire thread, all 28 pages of it !, and it strikes me that a lot of you are missing some of the main values of having a season ticket. I've had one since the early 70's, initially to save money over the year as I went to almost all games, but also to save the agro of queuing up to pay cash at the turnstile, I could just walk straight in and not miss the start, as now, most turned up at the last minute.
Once the valley became all seater, and having picked my seat, it was mine "for ever" or until I die. So my season ticket has also guaranteed the seat that I want, and I still don't have to queue up in the big long queue on match day to get a seat that's not my first choice. I don't have to get online, choose a seat (maybe one I don't want), pay for it and print it every game. I just walk straight in.
Over the years, I've gradually got to know those that sit around me, they're the same every game, we only discuss Charlton and other football matters, but they're "like minded". At the end of the game, I say "bye, sorry must rush, train to catch". I wouldn't have this if I bought a ticket for each game separately.
One other thing, all the moaning about season ticket prices going up. If you'd bought a ticket when they were first offered, and from what I can see the zone 2 ones (the ones being mainly moaned about) were available for £485 and as your saying they're now £550 and that's a price increase of £90 so they must have been £460 last year, so your price increase would have been only £25. (£485 - £460)
Or until the club wants to cash in on another team's promotion or experiment with moving away fans.
I was going to buy 3 season tickets for me and family but living in Dorset it would only be for Saturday games as very poor late evening train service, so no point, just buy tickets per match
Oh mate, reading you live in Dorset while looking at your user name is definitely bringing my OCD on :-)
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if we get promoted.
** I do appreciate there are a few more clubs that have those sort of numbers, but only Sunderland had the unused ground capacity before the coming season. I think they're up to 36000 now
You can tap in with the image on your phone (those with email tickets on their phones). No need to waste expensive ink and paper.
easy one. Supply and demand.
It was an error of communication and commercial judgement by the club in my opinion.
To be clear, I'm referring to FA cup matches not papa johns or whether the LDV trophy is called at the moment.
1 - The 'moaning' was because of the unannounced price increase to £550 the morning directly after the play off final victory. In a stroke it cut off any likely jump in sales to prospective new season ticket holders riding the wave of euphoria following the Wembley match. CAFC will still have about 7K empty seats for most matches next season. The opportunity was there to fill a significant number of those empty seats with new season ticket holders who in recent seasons would have attended a limited number of games at The Valley.
All it needed was a 2 week window at the £485 price to turbo charge sales but that unannounced price increase blew it. The price increase will have likely generated an extra £150 - 200K in revenue but I still maintain that figure would have been overtaken by the extra money generated by an additional circa 3K bums on seats.
2 - The serious 'moaning' from existing season ticket holders will come next year when our renewal price starts at £550. Scrapping around at the arse end of the Championship might result in a few not renewing.
Bang on there's about 12 of us friends and family who have had season tickets last few years on and off not including myself and bro who have had one for about 7 seasons now in a row and only 2 of those 12 have renewed soo far.
It was a kick In the teeth one day after the final tbh I would have renewed very soon after but had a hangover then see the jump and thought how cheeky couldn't even give it a week or so at better price.have mentioned before it's ok for some but I usually get my dad's ticket too and it all adds up in the end,getting emails to renew season ticket even before the current season had even ended and we are all forking out for play off matches,shirts and a wemberly trip.
Then small gets let go, if our billionaire owners maybe got 2 or 3 in the door or put there hands in their pockets proper I will have some belief we won't get pumped every week with a team that has maybe 4-5 at best possible championship players.will probably be suckered in though and renew 30 mins before first game of season as usual
Never seen you at an away game. You do not attend many.
A bit like his posts actually.
I was at the Halifax Tuesday night game at The Valley with just 3k there for a league game, no closed stands then either.
If the football, price and competition is attractive, people will want to attend.
How many 1/2 S/T do we sell? If we are going well and having a real go at the league, would another 500 be a fair figure?
Or until the club wants to cash in on another team's promotion or experiment with moving away fans.