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  • When Alexander of Macedonia was 33, he cried salt tears because there were no more worlds to conquer.

    Harry Brook is only 26. 
  • Our batting feels in a really good place, even with question marks over Crawley and Pope - Brook, Root and Smith are class, and Bethell looks promising as next man in waiting.

    Just need to sort the bowling.
  • Seen some suggest that Stokes and Smith should swap places on the batting line up, think it's becoming harder to argue against that. Also saw someone advocating for replacing Bashir with Bethell and putting him up the order. Both interesting suggestions
  • fenaddick said:
    Seen some suggest that Stokes and Smith should swap places on the batting line up, think it's becoming harder to argue against that. Also saw someone advocating for replacing Bashir with Bethell and putting him up the order. Both interesting suggestions
    Smith is averaging 250.00 batting at number seven this year, 144 higher than any other batter. Any suggestion he should be batting anywhere else should be rejected, quickly. 
  • Is Stokes still worth his place as an all rounder ? .. his batting is getting worse and worse but is  compensated by his captaincy and influence on the team 
  • Magnificent partnership comes to an end. 
  • Blimey where’s that come from?
  • fenaddick said:
    Seen some suggest that Stokes and Smith should swap places on the batting line up, think it's becoming harder to argue against that. Also saw someone advocating for replacing Bashir with Bethell and putting him up the order. Both interesting suggestions
    Not going to argue with the Smith suggestion or that Bashir shouldn't be replaced (preferably by Dawson) or that Bethell isn't a real talent with the bat but the latter is even less of a Test spinner than Bashir and has just 12 FC wickets to his name. Being a successful red ball spinner takes a lot longer than being able to turn your arm over for 4 overs with the sole aim of darting the ball in.  
  • Can’t disagree with any of the above, think it was someone working from the obvious point that the ECB want to crowbar Bethell in. You’d end up needing a lot of overs from Root which is far from ideal
  • fenaddick said:
    Blimey where’s that come from?
    Was a bit nervous after he started cramping up. Looked knackered at the end.
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  • Oh Chris.... Need to get within 100 at least
  • Smith should stay where he is. 7 is a specialist positions, he's very good at it. Batting with the tail is a skill. It's part of the reason Foakes was dropped from the side. Smith has shown to be excellent at it and he can also play innings like today. Leave him where he is 
  • In my opinion, our best XI to face the Aussies in the Ashes would be:

    Duckett
    Bethell
    Pope
    Root
    Brook
    Smith 
    Stokes
    Dawson
    Atkinson
    Carse
    Archer/Wood


  • Whether it's deliberate or not these flat pitches and hot weather are good preparation for our bowlers ahead of an away ashes this winter. They've had to toil multiple times already in this series but I'm hoping they've learnt a lot and will come out of it as better bowlers.
  • Whether it's deliberate or not these flat pitches and hot weather are good preparation for our bowlers ahead of an away ashes this winter. They've had to toil multiple times already in this series but I'm hoping they've learnt a lot and will come out of it as better bowlers.
    The Sheffield Shield pitches the past couple of years have been proper green seamers. Not many batsman getting runs over there.
  • edited July 4
    Edit: 402-8 including 4 ducks and one player yet to score!
  • Edit: 402-8 including 4 ducks and one player yet to score!
    As you were: 407-9 including 5 ducks
  • About to be 6 ducks. I hope it rains for 2 days. India can get another 250 to this and declare. 
  • 20 mins ago Broad & Athers were talking about India having lead of 120/130 & how they would go about getting the lead over 400.

    We then have a mini collapse & they are looking at having a lead of 180.
     

  • looks like Bashir has had it. 
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  • All out. India do lead by 180.

    Only 1 winner here I'm afraid. 
  • Edit: 402-8 including 4 ducks and one player yet to score!
    As you were: 407-9 including 5 ducks
    Make that 407 all out including 6 ducks
  • Rudders22 said:
    About to be 6 ducks. I hope it rains for 2 days. India can get another 250 to this and declare. 
    Spot on
  • What on earth was that leave all about. Absolutely shambolic from the England batsmen bar Smith & Brook.
  • Outside of Brooks and Smith that's absolutely pathetic from England 
  • Cant be many times a team has got over 400 and had 6 ducks.
  • edited July 4
    If only we had some decent bowlers..... Miss the days of young Broad and Anderson.
  • Cantersaddick said:
    Smith should stay where he is. 7 is a specialist positions, he's very good at it. Batting with the tail is a skill. It's part of the reason Foakes was dropped from the side. Smith has shown to be excellent at it and he can also play innings like today. Leave him where he is 
    Only works if the tail is prepared to do their bit - they contributed 5 runs out of a total of 20. Brook and Smith put on 303 runs with Smith effectively coming in at 6. Stokes coming in 7 strengthens our tail. Interestingly, Stokes averages exactly the same (35.13) whether he bats at 7 or anywhere else and he hasn't hit a Test hundred for over 2 years. 
  • Brook & Smith = 342
    The other 9 batters = 46
  • Shambolic from the Tail. Bashir might be one of the worst no11s I've seen. 
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