Im confident we have a squad now to be nowhere near relegation. FWIW this would be my starting lineup based on what we have so far (subject to Knibbs coming)
The Championship will again be three leagues in one. I’m expecting/ hoping that we’re at the top end of the bottom league of three. Anything better than that would be absolutely fantastic.
I think we'll finish somewhere between 14th - 18th which I would take all day long. The biggest thing is making sure we're in the Championship next season and building from there. If we look at teams who I think finish below us I would put Sheffield Wednesday, Hull, Stoke, Oxford and Preston with a couple more I definitely think we can finish above like Portsmouth, Wrexham and Derby
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You've screen grabbed a the crop in progress, excellent 😂
I reckon we stay up now. Before the transfers happened I thought 21st absolute best case (was more leaning 23rd/24th), everything goes right scenario, now I am fairly confident we can stay up after our transfer business.
I am gonna say we finish above Hull, Wednesday, Pompey, Preston, Oxford, & potentially Stoke & QPR. 17th-19th finish is my guess.
On topic though, think all of these predictions are rubbish because they have to submitted way before players sign/leave
They are almost all complete nonsense which serve only to fill the void in actual football news during the pre-season.
To accurately predict which team is going to finish where in a league you’d need a pretty intimate understanding of each club and what’s going on there. No one person has this level of knowledge for 24 (let alone 72 or 92) teams so unless you’ve got an enormous squad of journalists and are doing some sort of consensus based scoring of each teams chances then it’s not worth the paper it’s written on. What these things tend to be is some poor bloke(s) who have had a cursory look at the transfer ins and outs at each club, maybe a glance at a Wikipedia once or twice, and then tried to make some assumptions based on those superficial data points.
You can call this stuff prediction if you like, but in reality it’s just guessing.
I reckon we'll do well to be within the range of 16th-19th... Wednesday, Hull, PNE, Oxford, Wrexham & Stoke will be below us.. maybe Watford & Bristol City too.
Can’t believe the Championship is massively stronger than last time we got promoted and to be fair it took a catalogue of misfortunate events to send us down on the last day of the season.
Very confident of a mid table finish at least. Although all three promoted sides stayed up last season, I wouldn’t be surprised if one or two of them suffered “second season syndrome”
Oxford scream of second season syndrome. Their current starting front 4 managed only 25 G/A all season, if u add up all their minutes it’s the equivalent of 25 G/A in 95 games which is nothing short of dreadful. Also include the fact their back 4 consists of Spencer who TC had his best game of the season against and Currie who we dunked on 3 times. Not to mention A.Campbell may be joining them because they’re that desperate personally think they will be joining Hull and Wednesday
I reckon we'll do well to be within the range of 16th-19th... Wednesday, Hull, PNE, Oxford, Wrexham & Stoke will be below us.. maybe Watford & Bristol City too.
Bold statement to put Bristol City in there, they made the play offs last year.
too much negativity on this thread for my liking. I'm predicting a finish between 10th and 16th. And suggesting some players have only come to us because no one else was interested? Firstly, if no one else was interested then these players by default can't be very good so why have we paid out decent fees to get them? And secondly, how would anyone know whether other clubs were interested or not?
Good question.
I'm not poo pooing our signings. I think, as a newly promoted club, we've done well in the market. That said, aren't the fees too high for what we're getting? Is this because we entered into a price war with other clubs who were interested? I don't think we did; it just seems as though other clubs don't rate them as highly as we do, and the selling clubs took advantage of our need. Aren't we overrating them?
It seems that many forget that this is the 6th biggest league in the world based on player statistics.
too much negativity on this thread for my liking. I'm predicting a finish between 10th and 16th. And suggesting some players have only come to us because no one else was interested? Firstly, if no one else was interested then these players by default can't be very good so why have we paid out decent fees to get them? And secondly, how would anyone know whether other clubs were interested or not?
Good question.
I'm not poo pooing our signings. I think, as a newly promoted club, we've done well in the market. That said, aren't the fees too high for what we're getting? Is this because we entered into a price war with other clubs who were interested? I don't think we did; it just seems as though other clubs don't rate them as highly as we do, and the selling clubs took advantage of our need. Aren't we overrating them?
It seems that many forget that this is the 6th biggest league in the world based on player statistics.
How do you calculate the size of a league based on “player statistics”?
too much negativity on this thread for my liking. I'm predicting a finish between 10th and 16th. And suggesting some players have only come to us because no one else was interested? Firstly, if no one else was interested then these players by default can't be very good so why have we paid out decent fees to get them? And secondly, how would anyone know whether other clubs were interested or not?
Good question.
I'm not poo pooing our signings. I think, as a newly promoted club, we've done well in the market. That said, aren't the fees too high for what we're getting? Is this because we entered into a price war with other clubs who were interested? I don't think we did; it just seems as though other clubs don't rate them as highly as we do, and the selling clubs took advantage of our need. Aren't we overrating them?
It seems that many forget that this is the 6th biggest league in the world based on player statistics.
I think there are two main reasons charlton has managed to get all those players at what I believe will turn out to be bargain prices. Firstly, I suspect most of the. Championship has already shot their bolt financially with high wages and can’t make space in their squads and/or can’t keep splashing the cash; and it looks like more than a few clubs and managers are being seduced by agents for overseas players and have taken their eye off the ball when it comes to domestic players.
Nobody expected Charlton to splash any cash and do what it has done in the transfer market and Nathan and the club went about it very quietly so each time it never looked like we were going to sign so many or spend so much. Incredibly, other clubs and their fans are only just starting to realise what we’ve done. I suspect Knibbs will be the last one we pay money for this window with any others being free agents.
Someone may have done this already, but comparing our summer prep vs our last two promotions into the Championship. (Info from chatGPT)
2012 - finished 9th
Lawrie Wilson - 400k (Stevenage)
Dorian Dervite - Free
Jordan Cook - Free
Salim Kerkar - Free
Ricardo Fuller - Free
Emmanuel Frimpong - Loan
2019 - finished 22nd
Chuks Aneke – Free
Macauley Bonne – ~£200k
Tom Lockyer – Free
Ben Purrington – Undisclosed
Jonny Williams – Free
Erhun Oztumer – Free
Deji Oshilaja – Free
Adam Matthews – Free
Ben Amos – Free
Tomer Hemed – Undisclosed
Conor Gallagher – Loan
Josh Cullen – Loan
Sam Field – Loan
Jonathan Leko – Loan
Beram Kayal – Loan
You’d arguably put this summer’s dealings and prep above both of those (without seeing anyone play yet!). Certainly the Powell promotion summer looks tame - although you could argue that Kermorgant, BWP and maybe and a couple others were a cut above the squad we had last year.
Bet we wouldn't have finished 22nd had we kept Gallagher, and with a proper setup in terms of dealing with injuries... Not to mention the Taylor injury. We were cursed that season, especially after such a strong start. All began to unravel after that first International Break.
All IFs and BUTs though
Ironically when Luton announced Nathan Jones was back as Manager, I thought that would be problematic for us (even without the Covid break), as they were f**ked under Graeme Jones.
My biggest annoyance was when Barnsley got their late winner against Nottingham Forest in their penultimate match... I got the maths wrong, thought they were already down, and remember thinking it was nice they were saving a bit of face.
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I reckon we stay up now. Before the transfers happened I thought 21st absolute best case (was more leaning 23rd/24th), everything goes right scenario, now I am fairly confident we can stay up after our transfer business.
I am gonna say we finish above Hull, Wednesday, Pompey, Preston, Oxford, & potentially Stoke & QPR. 17th-19th finish is my guess.
I'm not poo pooing our signings. I think, as a newly promoted club, we've done well in the market. That said, aren't the fees too high for what we're getting? Is this because we entered into a price war with other clubs who were interested? I don't think we did; it just seems as though other clubs don't rate them as highly as we do, and the selling clubs took advantage of our need. Aren't we overrating them?
It seems that many forget that this is the 6th biggest league in the world based on player statistics.
Someone may have done this already, but comparing our summer prep vs our last two promotions into the Championship. (Info from chatGPT)
2012 - finished 9th
Lawrie Wilson - 400k (Stevenage)
Dorian Dervite - Free
Jordan Cook - Free
Salim Kerkar - Free
Ricardo Fuller - Free
Emmanuel Frimpong - Loan
2019 - finished 22nd
Chuks Aneke – Free
Macauley Bonne – ~£200k
Tom Lockyer – Free
Ben Purrington – Undisclosed
Jonny Williams – Free
Erhun Oztumer – Free
Deji Oshilaja – Free
Adam Matthews – Free
Ben Amos – Free
Tomer Hemed – Undisclosed
Conor Gallagher – Loan
Josh Cullen – Loan
Sam Field – Loan
Jonathan Leko – Loan
Beram Kayal – Loan
You’d arguably put this summer’s dealings and prep above both of those (without seeing anyone play yet!). Certainly the Powell promotion summer looks tame - although you could argue that Kermorgant, BWP and maybe and a couple others were a cut above the squad we had last year.
All IFs and BUTs though
Ironically when Luton announced Nathan Jones was back as Manager, I thought that would be problematic for us (even without the Covid break), as they were f**ked under Graeme Jones.
My biggest annoyance was when Barnsley got their late winner against Nottingham Forest in their penultimate match... I got the maths wrong, thought they were already down, and remember thinking it was nice they were saving a bit of face.