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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,385
    se9addick said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Can't wait to see how many 'survivors' from the promotion team are selected for the first few league games .. I reckon the answer will be not too many .. pity if so, BUT there you go, progress is inevitable
    We’ve got to be objective and ruthless (didn’t NJ say something along those lines on the pitch after the match at Wembley). If we played the promotion team for 46 matches in the Championship we’d finish rock bottom, so there needs to be large scale changes to the starting XI. 
    I know that Nathan & Co have to be ruthless, just I am surprised at the number of new signings.
    Right now I reckon just Jones, Ramsay and Gillesphey could be left over from  Wembley.
    Even Coventry, Edwards, Docherty and Godden (less likely) might not make 'the cut'
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,231
    Lincsaddick said:
    se9addick said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Can't wait to see how many 'survivors' from the promotion team are selected for the first few league games .. I reckon the answer will be not too many .. pity if so, BUT there you go, progress is inevitable
    We’ve got to be objective and ruthless (didn’t NJ say something along those lines on the pitch after the match at Wembley). If we played the promotion team for 46 matches in the Championship we’d finish rock bottom, so there needs to be large scale changes to the starting XI. 
    I know that Nathan & Co have to be ruthless, just I am surprised at the number of new signings.
    Right now I reckon just Jones, Ramsay and Gillesphey could be left over from  Wembley.
    Even Coventry, Edwards, Docherty and Godden (less likely) might not make 'the cut'
    Jones, Ramsay, Coventry and Edwards I think will all start. Gillesphey probably.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,645
    for me Ramsay, Jones, Gilly, Edwards, Coventry all start from last years team. The rest, who knows?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,199
    eastterrace6168 said:
    _MrDick said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    To the tune of "It's Raining again" by Supertramp...

    🎶He know's just how to read the game
    And find the net yet again...
    It's Kelman again
    I'm sure it's Kelman again
    Who else but Kelman again
    Of course it's Kelman Again🎶..

    Do I need to get me coat...🙄

    Good luck with that one. The yoof of today probably haven’t even heard of Supertramp 
    No accounting for taste today eh...🙄

    You see a few walking down the high street.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,074
    Lincsaddick said:
    se9addick said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Can't wait to see how many 'survivors' from the promotion team are selected for the first few league games .. I reckon the answer will be not too many .. pity if so, BUT there you go, progress is inevitable
    We’ve got to be objective and ruthless (didn’t NJ say something along those lines on the pitch after the match at Wembley). If we played the promotion team for 46 matches in the Championship we’d finish rock bottom, so there needs to be large scale changes to the starting XI. 
    I know that Nathan & Co have to be ruthless, just I am surprised at the number of new signings.
    Right now I reckon just Jones, Ramsay and Gillesphey could be left over from  Wembley.
    Even Coventry, Edwards, Docherty and Godden (less likely) might not make 'the cut'
    MartinCAFC said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    se9addick said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Can't wait to see how many 'survivors' from the promotion team are selected for the first few league games .. I reckon the answer will be not too many .. pity if so, BUT there you go, progress is inevitable
    We’ve got to be objective and ruthless (didn’t NJ say something along those lines on the pitch after the match at Wembley). If we played the promotion team for 46 matches in the Championship we’d finish rock bottom, so there needs to be large scale changes to the starting XI. 
    I know that Nathan & Co have to be ruthless, just I am surprised at the number of new signings.
    Right now I reckon just Jones, Ramsay and Gillesphey could be left over from  Wembley.
    Even Coventry, Edwards, Docherty and Godden (less likely) might not make 'the cut'
    Jones, Ramsay, Coventry and Edwards I think will all start. Gillesphey probably.
    LargeAddick said:
    for me Ramsay, Jones, Gilly, Edwards, Coventry all start from last years team. The rest, who knows?

    I anoint @MartinCAFC  the winner of this competition to predict how many of our Wembley heroes will have their hearts broken. His prize is a bottle of Macauley Gillesphey’s tears. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    edited July 28
    ct_addick said:
    CharltontillidieCOYR said:
    ct_addick said:
    A lot of people saying Kelman didn’t play well in playoff final…he ran his arse off and gave us a few problems….a Jones type player 
    I Swear he was the one who hit the cracker and mannion pushed onto the crossbar ?! 
    Yes that was him…played up front on his own basically….a really good signing….wonder if he is eligible to play for the USA men’s team 

    Krusty said Charlie Kelman's dad is from Texas but I have always found Krusty a clown so not sure if it's kosher 🤔

    Charlie has played 19 games for the USA U20's so custard pie in the face for me.😁
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,419
    edited July 28
    I believe that in the year (rather than entire season) of 2025, Kelman and Godden top the scoring charts in English football.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,199
    mendonca said:
    I believe that in year (rather the entire season) of 2025, Kelman and Godden top the scoring charts in English football.

    You can bet your life this will not be the case for the first half of this season.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,400
    edited July 28
    If people think we paid a lot for 23 year old Kelman, Wrexham are about to spend 4 million on 32 year old Kieffer Moore, apparently.

    Not that I wouldn't have taken Moore here, but still, value and all that. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,419
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    mendonca said:
    I believe that in year (rather the entire season) of 2025, Kelman and Godden top the scoring charts in English football.

    You can bet your life this will not be the case for the first half of this season.
    The beauty of the stat lies in what has happened, not what might ;-)

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,451
    Braziliance said:
    If people think we paid a lot for 23 year old Kelman, Wrexham are about to spend 4 million on 32 year old Kieffer Moore, apparently.

    Not that I wouldn't have taken more here, but still, value and all that. 
    Plus huge wages if you believe this.

    https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/1949859337133756547?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

    Even if it’s exaggerated, given his age I expect Kieffer will be on a lot Moore than Kelman.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,395
    Scoham said:
    Braziliance said:
    If people think we paid a lot for 23 year old Kelman, Wrexham are about to spend 4 million on 32 year old Kieffer Moore, apparently.

    Not that I wouldn't have taken more here, but still, value and all that. 
    Plus huge wages if you believe this.

    https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/1949859337133756547?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

    Even if it’s exaggerated, given his age I expect Kieffer will be on a lot Moore than Kelman.
    That's the capital of Venezuela!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,453
    Scoham said:
    Braziliance said:
    If people think we paid a lot for 23 year old Kelman, Wrexham are about to spend 4 million on 32 year old Kieffer Moore, apparently.

    Not that I wouldn't have taken more here, but still, value and all that. 
    Plus huge wages if you believe this.

    https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/1949859337133756547?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

    Even if it’s exaggerated, given his age I expect Kieffer will be on a lot Moore than Kelman.
    If that does turn out to be correct, Nixon has been more accurate this summer. Wonder if that’s his reporting improving or if he’s always had a higher Championship hit rate 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,931
    According to my Wrexham supporting mate he has failed the medical
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    Love it that Knibbs appears to have chosen us over Wrexham as well. 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,822
    AndyG said:
    According to my Wrexham supporting mate he has failed the medical
    What about Moore...
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,451
    ButtleJR said:
    Love it that Knibbs appears to have chosen us over Wrexham as well. 
    Has it been confirmed they were after him?
  • Danepak
    Danepak Posts: 1,632
    edited July 28
    eastterrace6168 said:
    To the tune of "It's Raining again" by Supertramp...

    🎶He know's just how to read the game
    And find the net yet again...
    It's Kelman again
    I'm sure it's Kelman again
    Who else but Kelman again
    Of course it's Kelman Again🎶..

    Do I need to get me coat...🙄


    I missed the Supertramp bit and at first thought you meant 'It's raining men'.
    Definitely sounded odd to that tune.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,451
    On NTT20s Substack:

    If someone had told you this time last year that Charlie Kelman and Rumarn Burrell would join Championship clubs in 2025 for a combined fee in excess of £4m, you would have laughed at them. After all, Kelman had scored 18 league goals across more than 130 EFL appearances, while Burrell had just spent the 2023/24 season playing for Cove Rangers in Scottish League One. Fast-forward to today, however, and the scenario makes more sense. 

    Kelman scored 21 goals (only one of them a penalty) for Leyton Orient in League One last season, picking up the Golden Boot in the process. The Basildon-born American demonstrated an ability to score different types of goals from different locations, while continuing to trouble defences by running in behind and pressing from the front. Kelman swaps QPR – where he was always on the fringes, and had less than a year left on his contract – for Nathan Jones’ industrious Charlton, a team he’ll remember well from the play-off final in May.

    The 23-year-old has unexpectedly brought QPR a tidy windfall, with the supposed £3.5m fee reported to have add-ons that could take it as high as £5m, and they’ve wasted no time in reinvesting some of it. Step forward, Rumarn Burrell from Burton Albion. Burrell followed up his 21-goal season in Scotland’s third tier by scoring 11 goals in just over 2150 minutes in England’s third tier. The Jamaican’s electric pace, willingness to run and finishing prowess was perfectly complemented by Jon Dadi Bodvarsson’s aerial ability and link-up play as Burton pulled off another Great Escape. 

    Gone are the days of Championship clubs only forking out for strikers who have a long history of scoring goals. Any kind of history of scoring goals, even at the level below, and – crucially – the potential to score a few more is enough to have second-tier clubs very, very interested. And, at 23 and 24 respectively, Kelman and Burrell have shown they can score goals at the level below and have the potential to score a few more. A successful season in the Championship could also see them fetch far bigger transfer fees for their respective new clubs in just 12 months’ time.

    Do Kelman and Burrell fit the mould of the stereotypical modern Championship striker? No, not really, but they have both shown that they can be effective through the middle and as wide forwards. That versatility, combined with their pace, work rate and PFG (potential for goals), should go some way to explaining why Charlton and QPR have put their hands in their pockets.

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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,400
    I feel quite bad slagging off NTT20 recently. I judged that from one video and a friends review about them.

    I wanted to listen to a podcast on my 3 hour walk the other night and put in 'football podcast' and theirs popped up on Spotify, I listened to their league 1 and 2, 1-24 predictions and they were both quite excellent and done a fair bit of research. 

    Put my hands up there, clearly work hard at what they do and they have a real genuine excitement covering teams and players most people probably don't care about. Sorry NTT20. 
  • hermann
    hermann Posts: 488
    Braziliance said:
    I feel quite bad slagging off NTT20 recently. I judged that from one video and a friends review about them.

    I wanted to listen to a podcast on my 3 hour walk the other night and put in 'football podcast' and theirs popped up on Spotify, I listened to their league 1 and 2, 1-24 predictions and they were both quite excellent and done a fair bit of research. 

    Put my hands up there, clearly work hard at what they do and they have a real genuine excitement covering teams and players most people probably don't care about. Sorry NTT20. 
    I'm a recent convert too. Started listening in the second half of last season when I wanted to consume every possible bit of CAFC content out there and was really impressed - they talk about L1 with a level of depth that you very rarely get from non-fans / local Cawleys at that level
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,362
    Braziliance said:
    I feel quite bad slagging off NTT20 recently. I judged that from one video and a friends review about them.

    I wanted to listen to a podcast on my 3 hour walk the other night and put in 'football podcast' and theirs popped up on Spotify, I listened to their league 1 and 2, 1-24 predictions and they were both quite excellent and done a fair bit of research. 

    Put my hands up there, clearly work hard at what they do and they have a real genuine excitement covering teams and players most people probably don't care about. Sorry NTT20. 
    They are far and away the best at covering the EFL. I wish sky sports or the highlights show would get them back on regularly 

    Though if they predict us bottom 3 I take all that back! 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,100
    NabySarr said:
    Braziliance said:
    I feel quite bad slagging off NTT20 recently. I judged that from one video and a friends review about them.

    I wanted to listen to a podcast on my 3 hour walk the other night and put in 'football podcast' and theirs popped up on Spotify, I listened to their league 1 and 2, 1-24 predictions and they were both quite excellent and done a fair bit of research. 

    Put my hands up there, clearly work hard at what they do and they have a real genuine excitement covering teams and players most people probably don't care about. Sorry NTT20. 
    They are far and away the best at covering the EFL. I wish sky sports or the highlights show would get them back on regularly 

    Though if they predict us bottom 3 I take all that back! 
    Cant see them putting us bottom 3 they've been very positive about our business 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,362
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Braziliance said:
    I feel quite bad slagging off NTT20 recently. I judged that from one video and a friends review about them.

    I wanted to listen to a podcast on my 3 hour walk the other night and put in 'football podcast' and theirs popped up on Spotify, I listened to their league 1 and 2, 1-24 predictions and they were both quite excellent and done a fair bit of research. 

    Put my hands up there, clearly work hard at what they do and they have a real genuine excitement covering teams and players most people probably don't care about. Sorry NTT20. 
    They are far and away the best at covering the EFL. I wish sky sports or the highlights show would get them back on regularly 

    Though if they predict us bottom 3 I take all that back! 
    Cant see them putting us bottom 3 they've been very positive about our business 
    Yeah I think they’ll probably have us maybe 16th-20th, they seem like they rate Nathan Jones too 
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 918
    They’ve been the best football podcast going for a long time. Much better than any other efl one. The second tier pod I think is a bit crap, neither of them really know what they’re talking about 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,400
    hermann said:
    Braziliance said:
    I feel quite bad slagging off NTT20 recently. I judged that from one video and a friends review about them.

    I wanted to listen to a podcast on my 3 hour walk the other night and put in 'football podcast' and theirs popped up on Spotify, I listened to their league 1 and 2, 1-24 predictions and they were both quite excellent and done a fair bit of research. 

    Put my hands up there, clearly work hard at what they do and they have a real genuine excitement covering teams and players most people probably don't care about. Sorry NTT20. 
    I'm a recent convert too. Started listening in the second half of last season when I wanted to consume every possible bit of CAFC content out there and was really impressed - they talk about L1 with a level of depth that you very rarely get from non-fans / local Cawleys at that level
    It wasn't just that, it was the sheer excitement in their voices. Like they were actually getting excited about players I have never even heard of signed from non-League.

    They clearly love it and have a passion for it, look forward to their Championship predictions, and they've inspired/motivated me to be better/do better.
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 635
    Does the fact that it has potential to be £5m mean he's our record signing?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,773
    I think we have an advantage over a lot of people in that League One has been our main focus. So a Millwall fan, for example, may not realise what great prospects, Kelman, Apter and indeed Knibbs are. Whereas those of us that know a bit about football will be aware of what they can offer and their great potential.
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,044
    AberystwythAddick said:
    They’ve been the best football podcast going for a long time. Much better than any other efl one. The second tier pod I think is a bit crap, neither of them really know what they’re talking about 
    I try the second tier pod every now and neither of them have a clue and constantly appear to take little snipes at each other? At least NTT20 are pretty knowledgeable and have a decent rapport 

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