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++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,453
    He’s also had barely any preseason so doesn’t have the match sharpness everyone else on the pitch did, give him time 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,773
    I am not worried about him, he has a strong character and is playing a role where he can be a bit isolated. He is clearly somebody opponents earmark to stop and that can help the team in other areas. I think he will get a healthy number of goals this season. It would probably be a good move to start him against Stevenage.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,922
    I remember games in the Prem where we also didn't provide a single chance for Darren Bent.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,835
    I thought some of his movement and turning looked great. He turned a defender early on in first half with the ball in the air and looked a natural footballer.

    He's a talent I think and will make a good impact on this team and get us goals.


  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,018
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    I thought some of his movement and turning looked great. He turned a defender early on in first half with the ball in the air and looked a natural footballer.

    He's a talent I think and will make a good impact on this team and get us goals.


    I think (hope?) that his initial issues are going to be working out exactly how to play in this team this style and getting that understanding - he looks to have the ability but maybe not quite found his feet yet.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,864
    He struggled but not cos he looked crap. Was a tough game fighting for long high balls and running around without the ball for ages in the heat. Plenty more to see from him I hope, not worried at this stage. 
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    Quiet debut but very few of us thought much of Godden for the first ten appearances.  
  • Valley Ant
    Valley Ant Posts: 469
    Never stopped running in a tough game.
    I like him.
    He will do very well for us.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,405
    edited August 10
    NJ said in his post-match interview that Charlie has played zero football. It did look like his legs wouldn't take him where he wanted to go. A few times he went to make a run in behind and just couldn't do it. 

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  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,240
    Tanto will be perfect foil for him from what I've seen
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,000
    I can't remember him running the channels much and thought he was fairly static. But TC playing so wide didn't help him. Strikers are about partnerships. 

    We have options and I'm sure there will be a few permutations. 
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,468
    I don’t have any doubts as I trust in Jones. Kels will be fine.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,249
    I'd like to see Kelman and Tanto start together tomorrow night, as think they could be a great partnership. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,499
    He will be absolutely fine.
    Some right nonsense already being spouted I see.
    I saw some really intelligent play on Saturday.
    Would've liked to have seen him have 10-15 minutes alongside Leaburn.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,024
    I'd like to preface this by saying I think he will be fine once fully up to speed, the team fully settles  he learns the team and adapts to his new role. 

    But....

    I refrained from saying this when he was linked as I didn't want to come across all Golfie about our shiney new toy. I got them impression he was the one signing we went for based off reputation and goal scored stats rather than where he fits into the system we play.

    We play with one focal point central striker who has to be able to compete in the air and occupy CBs whether that be a physical presence like Miles or an all rouder like Godden. We also have a 2nd striker that is a hybrid winger role and expected to get wide a lot.

    Charlie doesn't really fit either of these roles. He is best playing off a big man striker as he doesn't have the allround game to be that focal point but would be wasted out wide.

    I think the plan is to try and turn him into a Godden type and I get the reasoning - he has the natural strikers instinct, that's the bit that can't be taught. Now let's teach him the all round bits to his game. I think he will get there but it won't be immediate. We need to be patient with him and in the meantime I don't think he should be first choice. 

    When we get properly into rotation for the saturday-tuesday league games I hope it's TC with Leaburn and Tanto with Kelman. That way he has a more physical presence alongside him even if it is coming from a wider role. Still gives us an out ball and their defenders something to think about. Carey in the 10 could help as another physical presence.

    Saturday the plan was clearly to use pace to run at Watfords defence, try and get in behind, balls into the channel's and stretch them. Watford saw it coming a mile away and sat off to prevent that from happening. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,339
    Godden struggled early last season......once he settles in he will be fine.........
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,231
    If i remember correctly, it took Mendonca 4 games before he got his first goal. It's not like Kelmans had loads of opportunities and missed.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,836
    edited August 13
    ct_addick said:
    Godden struggled early last season......once he settles in he will be fine.........
    Godden scored his first goal after about 42 minutes of playing in a Charlton shirt… he got 20 minutes off the bench against Orient and then scored 22 minutes after coming off the bench against Bolton in his second appearance.

    Alfie took 3 or 4 games to get his first (a penalty) so willing to wait and see but I’m definitely closer to @cantersaddick than others on him.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,836
    edited August 13
    “He just needs Leaburn next to him”

    Did Godden need Leaburn next to him? At less than 10% of the transfer fee…

    I’d expect a 3m+ player to be able to get the job done without needing a particular player to be playing alongside them.

    Again, not saying he won’t pick up and do better but I’m not having that excuse, now or in the future.

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  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,864
    up_the_valley said:
    If i remember correctly, it took Mendonca 4 games before he got his first goal. It's not like Kelmans had loads of opportunities and missed.
    He scored on his home debut 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,126
    I’ve also had my doubts from when interest was first announced and bit my tongue, my Yank mate is desperate for him to do well, I hope I’m wrong. 


  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse Posts: 2,545

    Some fans seem to expect every player to play like they’re in a highlight reel: loads of flair, tricks, and screamers from 30 yards out. Anything less, and the player gets called shit even if they have only played 1 game but that’s Charlton fans for you!


  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,837
    up_the_valley said:
    If i remember correctly, it took Mendonca 4 games before he got his first goal. It's not like Kelmans had loads of opportunities and missed.
    I agree in the sense that he should be given plenty of time before we judge .. but Mendonca, he is not .  That said, I was hugely impressed by Tanto last night and I think they could play together if we were willing to adapt our style slightly .  
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,364
    So far we’ve used Kelman in the way we used Godden. He is not that player and I really hope we haven’t bought him to be that, I thought we were smarter than that now. 

    If we use him next to Leaburn, Olaofe or Godden, then we will see the best of him. 

    He also doesn’t look fit at all, he’s a player that runs the channels usually but we’ve barely seen any of that so far. He will probably start on Saturday but I think Leaburn or Olaofe would be much better options at the moment while Kelman is getting up to speed 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,837
    edited August 13
    NabySarr said:
    So far we’ve used Kelman in the way we used Godden. He is not that player and I really hope we haven’t bought him to be that, I thought we were smarter than that now. 

    If we use him next to Leaburn, Olaofe or Godden, then we will see the best of him. 

    He also doesn’t look fit at all, he’s a player that runs the channels usually but we’ve barely seen any of that so far. He will probably start on Saturday but I think Leaburn or Olaofe would be much better options at the moment while Kelman is getting up to speed 
    I don’t think he will start - it’s like playing with 10 men at the moment .  Wouldn’t be overly surprised to see TC and Olaofe.

    edit : I qualify that by saying that he needs time - I’m not writing him off .  He needs to get fitter and if we want him to be the main man, we will have to shift our system 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,364
    wmcf123 said:
    NabySarr said:
    So far we’ve used Kelman in the way we used Godden. He is not that player and I really hope we haven’t bought him to be that, I thought we were smarter than that now. 

    If we use him next to Leaburn, Olaofe or Godden, then we will see the best of him. 

    He also doesn’t look fit at all, he’s a player that runs the channels usually but we’ve barely seen any of that so far. He will probably start on Saturday but I think Leaburn or Olaofe would be much better options at the moment while Kelman is getting up to speed 
    I don’t think he will start - it’s like playing with 10 men at the moment .  Wouldn’t be overly surprised to see TC and Olaofe 
    Leaburn looked sharp last night so if he can start then he’d be my choice. But Olaofe and TC away from home gives us a lot of pace on the counter so would be a good option  
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,822
    He looks undercooked because he is, no pre season, no rhythm at the moment, but sure it’ll come together quiet soon 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,837
    NabySarr said:
    wmcf123 said:
    NabySarr said:
    So far we’ve used Kelman in the way we used Godden. He is not that player and I really hope we haven’t bought him to be that, I thought we were smarter than that now. 

    If we use him next to Leaburn, Olaofe or Godden, then we will see the best of him. 

    He also doesn’t look fit at all, he’s a player that runs the channels usually but we’ve barely seen any of that so far. He will probably start on Saturday but I think Leaburn or Olaofe would be much better options at the moment while Kelman is getting up to speed 
    I don’t think he will start - it’s like playing with 10 men at the moment .  Wouldn’t be overly surprised to see TC and Olaofe 
    Leaburn looked sharp last night so if he can start then he’d be my choice. But Olaofe and TC away from home gives us a lot of pace on the counter so would be a good option  
    Yeah I’m cautious with Miles - he looks back to his pre serious injury best but I wouldn’t be over using him yet .  I think Apter , Olaofe and Campbell gives us serious threat on the break and an ability to hold onto the ball .  Miles as impact sub for the time being .  
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,364
    I also think Kelman would be fine drifting to the left in our other striker role, he scored a few goals from that area last season. I actually put in the rumours thread that that’s why I thought we were buying him, to play that role next to a Godden/Leaburn 

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