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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    May be an image of text that says 1918 Gmail Sustainable Streets Update on Shooters Hill and Plumstead areas We keep our proposals under constant review Therefore we have reconsidered our Sustainable Streets proposals and are adjusting our consultation to focus on the four areas we think could benefit most from the Sustainable Streets scheme Charlton Kidbrooke and Blackheath Thamesmead West and Woolwich where they are either town centre locations with good transport links have high levels of new development or areas that would suffer from parking displacement from other areas This means we will be 0   s-rbgcommonplaceis
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
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  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    edited August 11
    Good to see Shrewsbury ward (with a newly elected Green Party Councillor) no longer part of this scheme
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    May be a graphic of text that says Parking proposals Hill and Plumstead LANG for Shooters WITHDRA THDRAWN M Well done to everyone who DRIVE campaigned But what about other areas  wwwbitly wbitygreenwich-how-to-objec
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,266
    With some more pressure hopefully the fuckers cave in completely and scrap the whole thing
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Is the option disappearing to park the other side of Charlton Park?

    It was always a bit of a slog back up the hill after the match (handy for me exiting Harvey Gardens from the East Stand), which might be a struggle for some. But never struggled to park around that area, and then just had to deal with Shooters Hill traffic back to the A2
    The main problem is that there is just going to be more cars trying to park in the same number of roads. There isn't many spaces anyway the other side of the park (or wasn't when I last parked the in the 2023/2024 season) and by stopping you parking nearer the ground just forces more people to park in the limited spaces there are. 

    Since moving to Bromley I've ditched going by car & now take the bus. The 380 to Belmarsh stops closer to the ground than I used to park !!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Great news for Plumstead and Shooters Hill (well done to them).
    Bad news for the rest of the Charlton fans who at this point are now even more likely to be hit.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,221
    I’m not on Charlton fb pages but on the Plumstead one I have never seen such an outpouring of anger and complaints and high demand to attend the meetings, a protest outside a town hall meeting, a specific website set up for this alone. People were angry.

    I don’t know what the Charlton residents have done in this regard. 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,738
    We're driving to the match tomorrow evening so can we still park in Delafield Rd after 4.30pm , with the free parking kicking in from 6.30 ?. 

    Usually have a Just Park booking but didn't expect to be attending this match. 

    Any help much appreciated, thanks.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,739
    edited August 11
    Curb_It said:
    I’m not on Charlton fb pages but on the Plumstead one I have never seen such an outpouring of anger and complaints and high demand to attend the meetings, a protest outside a town hall meeting, a specific website set up for this alone. People were angry.

    I don’t know what the Charlton residents have done in this regard. 
    The vast majority of Charlton residents don’t care about their local football club or their fans and while those with drives who can charge £25+ for people to park on them with JustPark ( some that hold three cars ) , there’s no way they are going to complain . 
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  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    We're driving to the match tomorrow evening so can we still park in Delafield Rd after 4.30pm , with the free parking kicking in from 6.30 ?. 

    Usually have a Just Park booking but didn't expect to be attending this match. 

    Any help much appreciated, thanks.
    It should be same restrictions as last season still so yes I would expect 4.30pm as usual should be fine.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    As a long standing Plumstead resident I think the council caving is bad for the area.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    edited August 11
    Is the option disappearing to park the other side of Charlton Park?

    It was always a bit of a slog back up the hill after the match (handy for me exiting Harvey Gardens from the East Stand), which might be a struggle for some. But never struggled to park around that area, and then just had to deal with Shooters Hill traffic back to the A2
    The main problem is that there is just going to be more cars trying to park in the same number of roads. There isn't many spaces anyway the other side of the park (or wasn't when I last parked the in the 2023/2024 season) and by stopping you parking nearer the ground just forces more people to park in the limited spaces there are. 

    Since moving to Bromley I've ditched going by car & now take the bus. The 380 to Belmarsh stops closer to the ground than I used to park !!
    Good on you for taking the bus and seeing it as the easier option. I know many people don't like being priced/inconvenienced out of using cars, but....it's just better overall for more people to use public transport. 

    Massive caveat that the public transport needs to be cheap, frequent, reliable and of good quality (the more people that use it, the more likely this will be).
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    edited August 11
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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    iainment said:
    As a long standing Plumstead resident I think the council caving is bad for the area.
    Can I ask - do you either don’t drive or have a driveway to park your car if you do?
  • Pico
    Pico Posts: 1,029
    In the meantime, parking at Windrush Primary School which cost £15 for the Watford game seems to have been reduced to £10 for Leicester

    https://thebigparking.co.uk/football/events/aug-25/charlton-athletic-v-leicester-city
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Pico said:
    In the meantime, parking at Windrush Primary School which cost £15 for the Watford game seems to have been reduced to £10 for Leicester

    https://thebigparking.co.uk/football/events/aug-25/charlton-athletic-v-leicester-city
    But you can still get a parking season ticket there for £345. Mind the rush!
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,628
    Walked down Charlton Lane about noon on Saturday, there was a car parked on a double yellow line, it was on the left hand side going down. It had a blue badge in the windscreen and a parking ticket on it . 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    edited August 12
    There’s a feedback meeting for the residents and businesses of Charlton area tonight.
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  • mickc
    mickc Posts: 573
    For the first time in nearly 30 years of parking in Charlton Church Lane came out of the game and had received a parking ticket at 14.20.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,221
    Taking it back to the other thread and the comment about Plumstead residents being wrong by @Rothko

    The people that need their cars are usually the most poorly paid I believe? The carers? I usually see 3 or 4 sets on my walk to the station buzzing about in their little micras. The teaching assistants that park in my road to work in the primary school at the end of the road. Maybe they need to drop off their own kids to schools so can’t use public transport. The children that need to visit their elderly parents on a daily basis would then have to pay for that necessity, which might just stretch the finances too much that they stop. 

    Doesnt affect us city types who use public transport but seems to me that it would just be a step too far for the financially vulnerable. 

    Who would ever have thought that owning a car would become only for the privileged. 
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,221

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,804
    Curb_It said:
    Taking it back to the other thread and the comment about Plumstead residents being wrong by @Rothko

    The people that need their cars are usually the most poorly paid I believe? The carers? I usually see 3 or 4 sets on my walk to the station buzzing about in their little micras. The teaching assistants that park in my road to work in the primary school at the end of the road. Maybe they need to drop off their own kids to schools so can’t use public transport. The children that need to visit their elderly parents on a daily basis would then have to pay for that necessity, which might just stretch the finances too much that they stop. 

    Doesnt affect us city types who use public transport but seems to me that it would just be a step too far for the financially vulnerable. 

    Who would ever have thought that owning a car would become only for the privileged. 
    The poorest Londoners don’t drive, 

    Of the households that earn less than £10,000, 78% do not own a car and 64% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car.  In outer London, 70% of households that earn less than £10,000 annually do not own a car and 53% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car. The poorest Londoners are more affected by air pollution.

    I disagree with the Plumstead campaign, as the area is pretty badly affected by traffic issues, is well served by public transport and with proper implementation would 
    have improved the area. The council have been absolutist on the issue, which doesn’t help, and the move should have been gradual, but the campaign against is as absolutist the other way. 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    Rothko said:
    Curb_It said:
    Taking it back to the other thread and the comment about Plumstead residents being wrong by @Rothko

    The people that need their cars are usually the most poorly paid I believe? The carers? I usually see 3 or 4 sets on my walk to the station buzzing about in their little micras. The teaching assistants that park in my road to work in the primary school at the end of the road. Maybe they need to drop off their own kids to schools so can’t use public transport. The children that need to visit their elderly parents on a daily basis would then have to pay for that necessity, which might just stretch the finances too much that they stop. 

    Doesnt affect us city types who use public transport but seems to me that it would just be a step too far for the financially vulnerable. 

    Who would ever have thought that owning a car would become only for the privileged. 
    The poorest Londoners don’t drive, 

    Of the households that earn less than £10,000, 78% do not own a car and 64% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car.  In outer London, 70% of households that earn less than £10,000 annually do not own a car and 53% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car. The poorest Londoners are more affected by air pollution.

    I disagree with the Plumstead campaign, as the area is pretty badly affected by traffic issues, is well served by public transport and with proper implementation would have improved the area. The council have been absolutist on the issue, which doesn’t help, and the move should have been gradual, but the campaign against is as absolutist the other way. 
    Does this apply to the Shooters Hill area of Plumstead?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,804
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Rothko said:
    Curb_It said:
    Taking it back to the other thread and the comment about Plumstead residents being wrong by @Rothko

    The people that need their cars are usually the most poorly paid I believe? The carers? I usually see 3 or 4 sets on my walk to the station buzzing about in their little micras. The teaching assistants that park in my road to work in the primary school at the end of the road. Maybe they need to drop off their own kids to schools so can’t use public transport. The children that need to visit their elderly parents on a daily basis would then have to pay for that necessity, which might just stretch the finances too much that they stop. 

    Doesnt affect us city types who use public transport but seems to me that it would just be a step too far for the financially vulnerable. 

    Who would ever have thought that owning a car would become only for the privileged. 
    The poorest Londoners don’t drive, 

    Of the households that earn less than £10,000, 78% do not own a car and 64% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car.  In outer London, 70% of households that earn less than £10,000 annually do not own a car and 53% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car. The poorest Londoners are more affected by air pollution.

    I disagree with the Plumstead campaign, as the area is pretty badly affected by traffic issues, is well served by public transport and with proper implementation would have improved the area. The council have been absolutist on the issue, which doesn’t help, and the move should have been gradual, but the campaign against is as absolutist the other way. 
    Does this apply to the Shooters Hill area of Plumstead?
    Yes, again well served, but also very sharp elbowed middle class at play there, vote green, don’t be green 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    edited August 16
    Rothko said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Rothko said:
    Curb_It said:
    Taking it back to the other thread and the comment about Plumstead residents being wrong by @Rothko

    The people that need their cars are usually the most poorly paid I believe? The carers? I usually see 3 or 4 sets on my walk to the station buzzing about in their little micras. The teaching assistants that park in my road to work in the primary school at the end of the road. Maybe they need to drop off their own kids to schools so can’t use public transport. The children that need to visit their elderly parents on a daily basis would then have to pay for that necessity, which might just stretch the finances too much that they stop. 

    Doesnt affect us city types who use public transport but seems to me that it would just be a step too far for the financially vulnerable. 

    Who would ever have thought that owning a car would become only for the privileged. 
    The poorest Londoners don’t drive, 

    Of the households that earn less than £10,000, 78% do not own a car and 64% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car.  In outer London, 70% of households that earn less than £10,000 annually do not own a car and 53% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car. The poorest Londoners are more affected by air pollution.

    I disagree with the Plumstead campaign, as the area is pretty badly affected by traffic issues, is well served by public transport and with proper implementation would have improved the area. The council have been absolutist on the issue, which doesn’t help, and the move should have been gradual, but the campaign against is as absolutist the other way. 
    Does this apply to the Shooters Hill area of Plumstead?
    Yes, again well served, but also very sharp elbowed middle class at play there, vote green, don’t be green 
    Must be hiding the Train, DLR, Tube, Tram stations up there.  Maybe its the loads of bus routes they have that hide them!
  • david2206
    david2206 Posts: 124
    Pico said:
    In the meantime, parking at Windrush Primary School which cost £15 for the Watford game seems to have been reduced to £10 for Leicester

    https://thebigparking.co.uk/football/events/aug-25/charlton-athletic-v-leicester-city
    Seems to have gone back up to £15 now when I look? Maybe it is cheaper if you book earlier? 
    We used it for the Watford game and it worked ok, I hope the school get a good amount of the money. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,804
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Rothko said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Rothko said:
    Curb_It said:
    Taking it back to the other thread and the comment about Plumstead residents being wrong by @Rothko

    The people that need their cars are usually the most poorly paid I believe? The carers? I usually see 3 or 4 sets on my walk to the station buzzing about in their little micras. The teaching assistants that park in my road to work in the primary school at the end of the road. Maybe they need to drop off their own kids to schools so can’t use public transport. The children that need to visit their elderly parents on a daily basis would then have to pay for that necessity, which might just stretch the finances too much that they stop. 

    Doesnt affect us city types who use public transport but seems to me that it would just be a step too far for the financially vulnerable. 

    Who would ever have thought that owning a car would become only for the privileged. 
    The poorest Londoners don’t drive, 

    Of the households that earn less than £10,000, 78% do not own a car and 64% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car.  In outer London, 70% of households that earn less than £10,000 annually do not own a car and 53% of households that earn between £10,000 and £19,999 do not own a car. The poorest Londoners are more affected by air pollution.

    I disagree with the Plumstead campaign, as the area is pretty badly affected by traffic issues, is well served by public transport and with proper implementation would have improved the area. The council have been absolutist on the issue, which doesn’t help, and the move should have been gradual, but the campaign against is as absolutist the other way. 
    Does this apply to the Shooters Hill area of Plumstead?
    Yes, again well served, but also very sharp elbowed middle class at play there, vote green, don’t be green 
    Must be hiding the Train, DLR, Tube, Tram stations up there.  Maybe it’s the loads of bus routes they have that hide them!
    How far are DLR, Train and Elizabeth line stations away, 10-15 on a bus, or are the people of Shooters Hill driving to Woolwich to use them?