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Residents Parking Expansion for SE7 - UPDATE PAGE 3

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  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Just checking a few things:
    The 9am to 9pm on match days never materialised?
    I’m okay to park from 4.30 onwards?
    The streets south of the park are currently still in pay?
    Thanks in advance for any answers  
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Uboat said:
    Just checking a few things:
    The 9am to 9pm on match days never materialised?
    I’m okay to park from 4.30 onwards?
    The streets south of the park are currently still in pay?
    Thanks in advance for any answers  
    Correct
    Correct if in a 2 hour max bay, restrictions ending at 6.30pm.
    Nothing ever changed re the streets south of the park afaik.
  • red10
    red10 Posts: 834
    I started this thread couple of years ago and it's a real shame that the council / government have basically made it so complicated and difficult to get to a bloody football match ffs!!. Getting older I personally will not spend 3 to 4 hours driving and then an hours round trip walking back and forth to the car. Public transport is not the option for a lot of people, either too expensive or not frequent enough to be of any use.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Where are these parking spaces in relation to The Valley? I normally only use public transport to get to the ground but have to drive for this one. Also is there a car park in Charlton village?
    Hard to tell from parkopedia. 
    Cheers in advance 
  • Charlton_Stu
    Charlton_Stu Posts: 3,867
    Valley11 said:
    Where are these parking spaces in relation to The Valley? I normally only use public transport to get to the ground but have to drive for this one. Also is there a car park in Charlton village?
    Hard to tell from parkopedia. 
    Cheers in advance 
    Yeah there is behind the Assembly halls, there's not a lot of spaces though.
  • BrentfordAddick
    BrentfordAddick Posts: 1,460
    Definitely need to arrive early for this one to have any chance of parking. 6pm early. 
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited May 8
    The CPZ won’t be in operation, which means all the bays that aren’t closed on matchdays (very close to the ground) are available from 4.30 and single yellow lines from 6.30. On that basis the parking shouldn’t be impossible, at least until 7pm. South of Charlton Park should be fine, in particular.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    The bays on Cemetery Lane have a one hour limit so 5:30 pm.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Thanks all 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,768
    If anyone grabs my spot I'll be raging 👹
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    I was down at IKEA / B&Q today, the free parking time slot is now 5 hrs. Handy to jump on a bus to the ground, if it stays like that, come the start of the season.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    I was down at IKEA / B&Q today, the free parking time slot is now 5 hrs. Handy to jump on a bus to the ground, if it stays like that, come the start of the season.
    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2024/06/12/greenwich-retail-park-redevelopment-back-with-planned-shops-and-1251-
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    Greenwich Council has collected £2.5 million from penalty notices issued in its low-traffic neighbourhood, councillors have been told.

    The council had issued 47,836 notices between January and the end of May, bringing in £2,495,000.

    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/06/30/greenwich-ltn-fines-income/

  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    clive said:

    Greenwich Council has collected £2.5 million from penalty notices issued in its low-traffic neighbourhood, councillors have been told.

    The council had issued 47,836 notices between January and the end of May, bringing in £2,495,000.

    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/06/30/greenwich-ltn-fines-income/

    So that’s about £6m a year based on those numbers maybe by the time the lease is up for renewal the council could buy the assets back of RD  :D
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    clive said:

    Greenwich Council has collected £2.5 million from penalty notices issued in its low-traffic neighbourhood, councillors have been told.

    The council had issued 47,836 notices between January and the end of May, bringing in £2,495,000.

    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/06/30/greenwich-ltn-fines-income/

    Were the councillors also told the costs of collecting that revenue and issuing the penalties in the first place?
    Was there any clarity on the rate at which penalties are challenged, delayed and defaulted.
    Local Authority treatment of financial information is simplistic at best and spun to the point of meaninglessness as a matter of course.

    The real world net proceeds of low traffic penalties will be a much lower figure, or I'm a monkey's uncle.
    What are the despots at RBG permitted to do with (any) such surplus - if the cost of the implementation is ever actually recovered?

    Once upon a time this would be Inspector Sands's territory.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    Monday 14 July 2025

    Residents and businesses are being asked what they think of new plans to make our streets greener, safer, and more sustainable. 

    We’re consulting on proposals for Sustainable Streets in the areas of Charlton, Kidbrooke and Blackheath, Plumstead, Shooters Hill, Thamesmead West, and Woolwich. We want feedback from residents and businesses by Friday 22 August. 

    Sustainable Streets are a combination of controlled parking measures that prioritise parking for residents and businesses, alongside other street improvements such as safer road crossing points, electric vehicle charge points, secure cycle parking, car club bays, more street trees and other enhancements.  

    https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/news/2025/have-your-say-sustainable-streets-proposals-your-area

  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Why bother asking they will do what they want anyway.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,223
    Why bother asking they will do what they want anyway.

  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    Why bother asking they will do what they want anyway.
    They’ll do whatever generates revenue, inconveniences the motorist, and makes life more difficult for Charlton fans to drive to/from games.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,261
    edited July 14
    It's the sustainability consultation that will have implications for residents and passing motorists, local businesses and fans of cafc. It aims to go above and beyond 'knee jerk' reactions from knee jerkers, and is a legal requirement. 
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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    clive said:
    Monday 14 July 2025

    Residents and businesses are being asked what they think of new plans to make our streets greener, safer, and more sustainable. 

    We’re consulting on proposals for Sustainable Streets in the areas of Charlton, Kidbrooke and Blackheath, Plumstead, Shooters Hill, Thamesmead West, and Woolwich. We want feedback from residents and businesses by Friday 22 August. 

    Sustainable Streets are a combination of controlled parking measures that prioritise parking for residents and businesses, alongside other street improvements such as safer road crossing points, electric vehicle charge points, secure cycle parking, car club bays, more street trees and other enhancements.  

    https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/news/2025/have-your-say-sustainable-streets-proposals-your-area

    Surely CAFC is classed as a business so where is our priority parking 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    “We’ve listened to residents and businesses and that feedback has shaped proposals for what Sustainable Streets could look like across Charlton, Kidbrooke and Blackheath, Plumstead, Shooters Hill, Thamesmead West, and Woolwich. Now we want to know what our residents think of the proposed designs. They can do this by going online, visiting a participating library, or coming to a feedback event, by midnight on 22 August 2025.

     If introduced, Sustainable Streets will prioritise residents and businesses to help travel in cleaner and greener ways, while making parking more accessible. Improving the borough’s infrastructure is key to addressing those points, and installing more electric vehicle charging points will help residents switch to more sustainable vehicles. Likewise, having better access to cycle hangars will also encourage people to choose two wheels to travel on rather than four.  

    Parking permit schemes help manage parking demand and can offer better parking access to homes and shops. If revenue is generated from the parking permits, it would be reinvested into transport and highway improvements across the borough, including subsidising Freedom Passes for older and disabled residents. Together, we can make our borough a greener, safer, and more sustainable place for all to enjoy.”    

    How to take part  

    Online: Visit royalgreenwich.gov.uk/sustainable-streets  

    Libraries: Physical maps and feedback forms will be available at: Woolwich Centre Library, Charlton House Library, Plumstead Centre Library, Slade Centre Library, Thamesmere Library and Blackheath Library.  

    Community Feedback Events 

    • Charlton area: Weds 20 Aug, 5.30pm to 8.30pm, St Thomas Church, Woodland Terrace, SE7 8DD
    https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/news/2025/have-your-say-sustainable-streets-proposals-your-area
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    clive said:
    Monday 14 July 2025

    Residents and businesses are being asked what they think of new plans to make our streets greener, safer, and more sustainable. 

    We’re consulting on proposals for Sustainable Streets in the areas of Charlton, Kidbrooke and Blackheath, Plumstead, Shooters Hill, Thamesmead West, and Woolwich. We want feedback from residents and businesses by Friday 22 August. 

    Sustainable Streets are a combination of controlled parking measures that prioritise parking for residents and businesses, alongside other street improvements such as safer road crossing points, electric vehicle charge points, secure cycle parking, car club bays, more street trees and other enhancements.  

    https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/news/2025/have-your-say-sustainable-streets-proposals-your-area

    Surely CAFC is classed as a business so where is our priority parking 
    Only thing is, we prefer to be called fans not customers.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,245
    clive said:
    Monday 14 July 2025

    Residents and businesses are being asked what they think of new plans to make our streets greener, safer, and more sustainable. 

    We’re consulting on proposals for Sustainable Streets in the areas of Charlton, Kidbrooke and Blackheath, Plumstead, Shooters Hill, Thamesmead West, and Woolwich. We want feedback from residents and businesses by Friday 22 August. 

    Sustainable Streets are a combination of controlled parking measures that prioritise parking for residents and businesses, alongside other street improvements such as safer road crossing points, electric vehicle charge points, secure cycle parking, car club bays, more street trees and other enhancements.  

    https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/news/2025/have-your-say-sustainable-streets-proposals-your-area

    Surely CAFC is classed as a business so where is our priority parking 
    Only thing is, we prefer to be called fans not customers.
    For the purpose of being able to park within 10 minutes of the ground they can call me whatever they want. This poxy council have done more to reduce attendances than captain shitarse and his piece ever did. 

    The amount of appointments the club has made someone must be in a position to get something in place before the season starts. Charlton is one of the easiest places to work in during the week as hardly anyone has a car, lovely big wide roads and the amount of space available on a match day not being used for parking greatly pisses me off. For the sake of Greenwich councils revenue stream I'd also gladly pay them to park on a road for a few hours to enable me to get home before midnight on a school night and get a few hours sleep before going to work the following day. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    I presume CAST are talking to CAFC about this with a view to attempting to prevent the further expansion of the zones or some feasible alternative for fans?
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    According to recent budget proposals, the introduction of CPZs could begin by the end of 2025, with an expected revenue generation of £1 million annually by 2029. If plans progress as anticipated, formal consultations on specific schemes will occur between July and September.

    One group particularly affected by potential parking restrictions could be Charlton Athletic fans, who frequently park in residential areas south of Charlton Park on matchdays.

    https://www.highwaysindustry.com/greenwich-council-sustainable-streets-consultation/
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    I presume CAST are talking to CAFC about this with a view to attempting to prevent the further expansion of the zones or some feasible alternative for fans?
    Especially if the parking is camera controlled ! 😉😆😉😆
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    I presume CAST are talking to CAFC about this with a view to attempting to prevent the further expansion of the zones or some feasible alternative for fans?
    Must be joking. Greenwich council have probably seen our return to the Championship and increased crowds as a right money spinning opportunity for them.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    Greenwich’s ‘sustainable streets’ CPZ scheme branded a ‘done deal’

    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/07/16/greenwich-sustainable-streets-cpz-done-deal/