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Fat Jab

After a series of diets and exercising I’ve given up as the needle of the scales only seems to waver. I think I eat healthily and not excessively and  rarely eat fast foods. My only sin is drinking alcohol mainly wine which I’m sure is the root cause of my failure to reduce weight. But my main concern is diabetes any my last blood count showed that I’ve tip toed over to diabetes 2. And so enough is enough, I’m starting my course of fat jabbing on Mounjaro from Sunday (after a good piss up after the match on Saturday).

Has anybody else considered or undertaking this course of action to reduce weight? 
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  • edited August 20
    Solidgone said:
    After a series of diets and exercising I’ve given up as the needle of the scales only seems to waver. I think I eat healthily and not excessively and  rarely eat fast foods. My only sin is drinking alcohol mainly wine which I’m sure is the root cause of my failure to reduce weight. But my main concern is diabetes any my last blood count showed that I’ve tip toed over to diabetes 2. And so enough is enough, I’m starting my course of fat jabbing on Mounjaro from Sunday (after a good piss up after the match on Saturday).

    Has anybody else considered or undertaking this course of action to reduce weight? 
    I have got two friends, both female, who have had very good results with Mounjaro. Since the start of the year both have lost about 4 stones
  • No, but I'm with you on alcohol being a major culprit. I gave it up for a few months a couple of years ago and the weight dropped off even though I wasn't doing much exercise due to heart related health issues. 
    I'm back on it again but if I feel myself getting heavy then I cut right back and I'm soon back in a reasonable range
  • edited August 20
    Couple of colleagues on the jabs and the weight loss is plain to see. As Covered End says, the key is really how to adopt healthy food and drink habits for when the jabs stop to keep the weight off.
  • I have colleagues on the jabs and it has worked for them. I have been doing the intermittent fasting thing and had some success.
    It is of course lifestyle but sometimes you need that jolt and help I would say.
  • gringo said:
    I am 6ft 1 and type2 diabetic. I have come down from about 23 stone to just under 17 stone over about 8 months, and am close to being in diabetic remission.

    It works because you simply don't want to eat. Often when you're eating a meal, you just cannot swallow another bite- so you end up throwing away a lot of food. However I did have quite severe side effects. I am now on 15 which is the highest dosage,  but I found that every step in dosage had side effects. These are principally, nausea, headaches and diarrhoea (or constipation), normally 2/3 days after the jab. There were times when I really felt quite unwell for a couple of days a week, so I had to try to time when I took, the jab if something speciall was happening in the next few days (like Christmas day),  but thankfully this now seems to have stabilised now.

    I now appear to have plateaued and am not losing any more weight, but I feel much more healthy and gone from 4XL to 2XL and from 52" waist to 44". Having the dog now, also means that I am doing my steps target daily which is also probably a contributory factor, and I have also given up red meat and almost all Alcohol (not that I ever drank much). I hope that my relationship with food has changed, and I am now more sensible with my diet, so while I expect that I will put weight back on when I stop, I wont be going back to over 20 stone.
    Well done on persevering.  I have read that 1 in 10 people suffer side effects and know people that have suffered the same as you. 
     
    Unfortunately the orange gimp in America has spoken and prices are set to increase 50-100% by the look of it. 
  • edited August 20
    Solidgone said:
    After a series of diets and exercising I’ve given up as the needle of the scales only seems to waver. I think I eat healthily and not excessively and  rarely eat fast foods. My only sin is drinking alcohol mainly wine which I’m sure is the root cause of my failure to reduce weight. But my main concern is diabetes any my last blood count showed that I’ve tip toed over to diabetes 2. And so enough is enough, I’m starting my course of fat jabbing on Mounjaro from Sunday (after a good piss up after the match on Saturday).

    Has anybody else considered or undertaking this course of action to reduce weight? 
    Just don't eat or consume 
    alcohol for a minimum of 48 hrs at a time twice a week! If you spend some time researching the benefits of fasting you will find the benefits far out way some fat man jab.
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  • Solidgone said:
    After a series of diets and exercising I’ve given up as the needle of the scales only seems to waver. I think I eat healthily and not excessively and  rarely eat fast foods. My only sin is drinking alcohol mainly wine which I’m sure is the root cause of my failure to reduce weight. But my main concern is diabetes any my last blood count showed that I’ve tip toed over to diabetes 2. And so enough is enough, I’m starting my course of fat jabbing on Mounjaro from Sunday (after a good piss up after the match on Saturday).

    Has anybody else considered or undertaking this course of action to reduce weight? 
    Just don't eat or consume 
    alcohol for a minimum of 48 at a time twice a week! If you spend some time researching the benefits of fasting you will find the benefits far out way some fat man jab.
    Don’t eat or drink any alcohol on 4 days a week?

    Yes you’d lose weight I’d imagine if you don’t eat for half a week. 

    Did you mean 2 consecutive days a week only drink allowed and not alcohol? 
  • edited August 20
    To really loose weight you still need to really remove alcohol for about 3 months, after that you can maybe allow yourself a blow out every 2 weeks. 
    If you are a big fat man fasting is the best way, eat a couple of steaks with eggs for a couple of days before  hand then stop eating.... Easier than it sounds but very manageable and much healthier than injecting something 
  • edited August 20
    I was on mounjaro for 5 months. Lost a stone and a half. I stopped taking it 3 months ago because of the cost and have gained 8lbs. I have family and friends on munjaro and they all piled on the lbs when they came off it. My daughter has resumed the treatment. I have appointment with the NHS weight loss clinic today as I’ve realised it’s my lifestyle that needs to alter. The drug is brilliant to lose weight but pointless if you don’t alter your lifestyle and pile the pounds back on.
     It’s easy when you’re taking it, I thought I could carry on with small portions but that didn’t last long. I was ravenous lol 
  • I think the idea for a lot of people is that they will be on a "maintenance dose" forever. 

    I've also heard from a couple of friends on it that it also killed any cravings they had for alcohol as well as food. 

    Sounds like a wonder drug to me. One thing's for sure, far more people than you realise are on it. 
  • I have type 2 Diabetes and was diagnosed 23 years ago. 
    My blood sugar is controlled by tablets and a daily injection à pre-insulin medicine called Forxiga. Last year there was a shortage of Forxiga in France and my doc told me to go on Ozempic.
    I lost 15 kgs in 2 months and felt like shit the whole time (all the side mentioned? I had them!). You can’t imagine how pleased I was when Forxiga was available again.
    I put on about 10kgs afterwards which I have no problem with as I was able to count my ribs through the skin!
  • I know people are always suspicious of the side effects of the fat jab, but surely they can't be worse than the side effects of being obese?
  • I don't have first hand experience but am really interested in these drugs and the signs that they'll potentially be useful in all kinds of areas, eg memory loss. 

    This article is good: 


  • I know people are always suspicious of the side effects of the fat jab, but surely they can't be worse than the side effects of being obese?
    Agreed. A theory between friends and I on it is that a large proportion of society will be on variants of this in one or two decades.  

    Ultimately, we need to break our addiction to processed food. This book was insightful before I started my journey. https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/hooked-how-we-became-addicted-to-processed-food-michael-moss/6412192
  • I don’t have a big weight issue but I have always had to watch it. I’ve been overweight most of my life. I managed to go into the normal weight range by the BMI in 2019 and I have managed it again this year. I’m beginning to wonder if my weight affects our promotion hopes, lol.

    This drug sounds like it just reduces your appetite which is something that can be done naturally. It’s not easy but I think many people make it difficult for themselves by trying to do too much too soon.

    Take a look at what you eat and just gradually reduce the portion sizes. You can do it really slowly and then you don’t notice so much. For example, if you have 5 slices of bread for lunch, cut it down to 4.75 slices for one month before trying 4.5 slices. If you have 200g of steak, cut a bit off to make it 180g and give the other 20g to a happy teenager (or dog). Count how many tablespoons of rice you have and decrease that by half a tablespoon each month.

    Measurement and slow decreases is the key. You will start by maybe still putting on weight but you’ll be putting it on more slowly. Weigh yourself every morning and write it down. Gradually the tide will turn and you’ll be losing a little weight. Even if you only lose 100g a week, after one year you’ve lost 5kg.

    Designate times in the week when you allow yourself to consume stuff like alcohol, chips, ice cream then slowly decrease these time slots.

    You don’t need drugs, just planning and determination. Drugs are not the answer - what do you do when you have to stop them? Or do you take them for the rest of your life?
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  • BalladMan said:
    I started on mounjaro last Wednesday. Lost 8lbs in one week from a starting point of 16st 11lbs (so overweight). 

    It is incredible how it limits your hunger, but most surprising thing is how the blood sugar control completely stops you craving sweet and processed foods.  I was a slave to my cravings but this drug frees me. 

    I want to lose another 28lbs so a plan to do it for 6-9 months, alongside excercise. 

    My main goal is to change my bad habits permanently. 
    Well done.
    I have considered it but am concerned about side effects. I also see it that if you make the necessary lifestyle changes you will loses the weight naturally, not too quickly and safely. If you (I mean people in general, not you specifically) can't make the necessary lifestyle changes to lose the weight in the first place, how are you going to make them after the jabs have helped you lose the weight?

    My main goal is to change my bad habits permanently - lose the weight (naturally) and keep  it off. Trouble is I'm not scoring many goals, have plenty of no score draw weeks and conceding the odd goal!
  • edited August 21
    Solidgone said:
    After a series of diets and exercising I’ve given up as the needle of the scales only seems to waver. I think I eat healthily and not excessively and  rarely eat fast foods. My only sin is drinking alcohol mainly wine which I’m sure is the root cause of my failure to reduce weight. But my main concern is diabetes any my last blood count showed that I’ve tip toed over to diabetes 2. And so enough is enough, I’m starting my course of fat jabbing on Mounjaro from Sunday (after a good piss up after the match on Saturday).

    Has anybody else considered or undertaking this course of action to reduce weight? 
    My sister in law was taking the jobs. She lost a few stones but as soon as she came off them the weight piled back on again. She’s now going to start taking them again 🤷‍♂️

    I had a routine blood test a few months ago and it showed that I was pre-diabetic. The doctor gave me a choice. Jabs or going on a weight loss programme. I chose the latter. 

    The programme is called second nature. It’s all done through an app. You get a dietician and a coach. As part of the deal they send you a sooper-dooper set of weighing scales which tracks absolutely everything. 

    The menus they give you, I think, are not achievable to the large proportion of the population. They have ingredients that are either far too expensive or you can’t get in your local supermarket - the cost of living crisis hasn’t reached the NHS yet. 

    What I’ve learnt is it’s all about the carbs (complex, simple and fibrous) and at what point in the day you eat them to stop putting on weight. I have a friend who’s a PT and he’s given me a diet guideline to follow. And it’s working .. in 10 weeks, I have lost 11kg without breaking too much sweat. If you follow the following diet and add in daily walks (10,000 steps 🙄), you should lose weight. 

    Forget the jabs, it’s a short term solution 


  • edited August 21
    1 fasting day per week. No food from 22.00 hours on Wednesday until 08.00 on Friday works a treat for me. I do that once a week when I'm trying to lose fat and less often when I'm maintaining. 

    Beats being hungry every day. Plus there is growing evidence that fasting helps insulin resistance and has other metabolic benefits. 

    It's hard at first though as your body has to get used to burning fat as your glycogen depletes. 
  • Thursday is often a busy day at work and I'd worry about underperforming by not eating.
  • Thursday is often a busy day at work and I'd worry about underperforming by not eating.
    I think Gassan may have been doing this on a Saturday !
  • Its not about eating “healthily”, its calories in v calories out. You could eat a large big mac meal every day and still lose weight. Not good for you but it would work for weight loss.
  • _MrDick said:
    Solidgone said:
    After a series of diets and exercising I’ve given up as the needle of the scales only seems to waver. I think I eat healthily and not excessively and  rarely eat fast foods. My only sin is drinking alcohol mainly wine which I’m sure is the root cause of my failure to reduce weight. But my main concern is diabetes any my last blood count showed that I’ve tip toed over to diabetes 2. And so enough is enough, I’m starting my course of fat jabbing on Mounjaro from Sunday (after a good piss up after the match on Saturday).

    Has anybody else considered or undertaking this course of action to reduce weight? 
    My sister in law was taking the jobs. She lost a few stones but as soon as she came off them the weight piled back on again. She’s now going to start taking them again 🤷‍♂️

    I had a routine blood test a few months ago and it showed that I was pre-diabetic. The doctor gave me a choice. Jabs or going on a weight loss programme. I chose the latter. 

    The programme is called second nature. It’s all done through an app. You get a dietician and a coach. As part of the deal they send you a sooper-dooper set of weighing scales which tracks absolutely everything. 

    The menus they give you, I think, are not achievable to the large proportion of the population. They have ingredients that are either far too expensive or you can’t get in your local supermarket - the cost of living crisis hasn’t reached the NHS yet. 

    What I’ve learnt is it’s all about the carbs (complex, simple and fibrous) and at what point in the day you eat them to stop putting on weight. I have a friend who’s a PT and he’s given me a diet guideline to follow. And it’s working .. in 10 weeks, I have lost 11kg without breaking too much sweat. If you follow the following diet and add in daily walks (10,000 steps 🙄), you should lose weight. 

    Forget the jabs, it’s a short term solution 


    I like the look of most of that. I was told I was type 2 2 years ago. Got it down to pre diabetic in 3 months by behaving myself. Since then I’ve gone bad. I really need to sort it out but it’s hard. I could give your diet a go apart from the fruit. I hate fruit. Do t eat it. Never have done. Oh. And the weekend beer might be hard but not impossible. 
  • The trouble is unless a person changes their lifestyle ie what they eat and how much they move/exercise most people pile it all back on when they stop taking the jabs.

    So to my mind it's pointless taking the jabs unless you are going to permanently change your lifestyle.
    I don't know but I wonder if that's true. A lot of overeating is about habits and what  your body is conditioned to expect (e.g. a bar of chocolate after lunch). Perhaps those habits can be broken through these drugs. 

    Like all 50 somethings I do have to watch my weight. I'm not too bad - about 81 kg and 5'10. A couple of years ago I was 85kg and lost 5kg mainly though fasting for a few months between 8p.m. and noon
  • The trouble is unless a person changes their lifestyle ie what they eat and how much they move/exercise most people pile it all back on when they stop taking the jabs.

    So to my mind it's pointless taking the jabs unless you are going to permanently change your lifestyle.
    I have 4 friends here that all used semaglutade and saw remarkable results and their behaviour changed as a result of the jabs, so I’m not sure what you say is entirely true due to how the jabs chemically change your appetite. 
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