England Cricket 2025

MarcusH26 said:

Addick Addict said:

cantersaddick said:

Addick Addict said:

MarcusH26 said:

Addick Addict said:

What are the two things the following all have in common?

Sam Konstas
Moises Henriques
Chris Green
Sean Abbott
Tanveer Sangha
Mitchell Marsh
Cooper Connolly
Aaron Hardie
Cameron Bancroft
Ashton Agar
Marnus Labuschagne
Matt Renshaw
Xavier Bartlett
Mitchell Swepson
Mitchell Owen
Ben McDermott
Matthew Wade
Matthew Kuhnemann
Riley Meredith
Josh Philippe
Jake Fraser-McGurk
Nathan McSweeney
Matthew Short
Peter Handscomb
Todd Murphy

All are current Aussie internationals being allowed to play in their domestic 50 over comp?

Absolutely spot on - in fact, all 25 played today including their current white ball captain, Mitchell Marsh, fresh from last week scoring an international ton for Australia. Many will return to play for their clubs too.

How many England internationals played in our domestic 50 over competition?   

Burns foakes and sibley all made 1 or 2 appearances but aren't exactly current internationals.

And will never play a white ball international again. At least half of those Aussies will do so. 

Could make 2 good 50 over sides from that list of Aussie players. 

I did see Northants have signed Nathan McSweeney to an all formats overseas deal for next season which will be interesting. 

The connection is, of course, Northants current coach Darren Lehmann. McSweeney plays for South Australia, (at Glenelg CC, the same club as Alex Carey) where the Darren Lehmann Cricket Academy is based. 

Chizz said:

Addick Addict said:

MarcusH26 said:

Addick Addict said:

What are the two things the following all have in common?

Sam Konstas
Moises Henriques
Chris Green
Sean Abbott
Tanveer Sangha
Mitchell Marsh
Cooper Connolly
Aaron Hardie
Cameron Bancroft
Ashton Agar
Marnus Labuschagne
Matt Renshaw
Xavier Bartlett
Mitchell Swepson
Mitchell Owen
Ben McDermott
Matthew Wade
Matthew Kuhnemann
Riley Meredith
Josh Philippe
Jake Fraser-McGurk
Nathan McSweeney
Matthew Short
Peter Handscomb
Todd Murphy

All are current Aussie internationals being allowed to play in their domestic 50 over comp?

Absolutely spot on - in fact, all 25 played today including their current white ball captain, Mitchell Marsh, fresh from last week scoring an international ton for Australia. Many will return to play for their clubs too.

How many England internationals played in our domestic 50 over competition and what's our ODI record in the last four years compare to that of Australia especially in World Cups?   

I don't think any of the England squad ahead of the 2023 World Cup played domestic 50-over cricket in England.  Although it's arguable as to whether it would have been of much benefit to play in England ahead of a World Cup in India.  

Likewise, for Australia, none of the 2023 World Cup squad members played a single domestic 50-over match in the 2023-24 Marsh Cup before (or during) the World Cup.

As per usual you deliberately try to deflect the point which is how few 50 over games, overall, the England players in the ODI squad have played in the last four years compared to that of Australia. Playing 50 over cricket is totally different to T20 or 100 ball cricket as several of our "undercooked" internationals such as Buttler, Duckett and Salt have acknowledged.

None of our squad play any 50 over domestic games but Australian players do, generally speaking, turn out for clubs (Labuschagne, for example, has played in the last few weeks for his club) as well as their State meaning that they get more exposure to that form of the game.  

Let the facts tell the story though - since the first game that was played in The Hundred, England have had 54 ODI's of which they've won 24 and lost 30. Against the seven top ranked sides the record becomes W10-L25 with some of those wins "dead rubbers" such as the recent victory against South Africa.

Full record (W-L):

Afghanistan (0-2)
Australia (2-8)
Bangladesh (3-1)
India (1-6)
Ireland (1-0)
Netherlands (4-0)
New Zealand (3-2)
Pakistan (1-0)
South Africa (2-6)
Sri Lanka (0-1)
West Indies (5-4)

In the 5 years prior to The Hundred, our record was W56-L21.

It really isn't rocket science to work out how and why this has happened but please do keep us amused with your attempts at deflection.