Electric Cars

gringo · November 12

R0TW said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

We have lost a lot of things and this does not specifically apply to Evs over ICEs. We have lost any beauty and flair there was in car design. I am not going to argue with somebody who thinks Bella Emberg is prettier than Marilyn Monroe, it is just a fact. We have also got ourselves in a position where for both EVs and ICEs, won't last. Car companies are designing cars like washing machines and they will be reliable for the first 5 to 7 years and then you will have problems. Some might say, well wasn't that always the case? The answer is yes to a certain extent but cars used to be repairable for a reasonable price. You now have the situtation where it can cost £500 to repair a light bulb and Peugeot have introduced a gear box that can't be repaired, only replaced. The cost of doing so? £7k. There are so many needless features to modern cars that are all there to go wrong.

The golden age of cars was the 2000s to 2010s. That was when they were as reliable as ever. You could get some after that. They were the cars with outdated engines and hanging on for replacement. All the motoring journnos were saying don't buy those but they couldn't have been more wrong. The couldn't see what the car companies were up to. At the time they were saying buy the 1litre that can perform like a 2 litre. Basically pusing the engine to an early grave and an overelience on computers. When they go wrong they cost a fortune to sort out, not forgetting wet belts which was never a good idea. Cars will be great for the first five years but keep your older cars if you have one. They are going to become very valuable when the floor falls out of the second hand market on newer cars. Both for EVs and ICEs.

cant argue with that. My 2005 Honda still has the same zip about it as when it first came out the factory. Happily smash 80/90 down the motorway with no rattles or worries. 135k and won’t give it up unless financially unviable.

We have a third car (Corsa) in the family. We were going to px it when we bought our new Hybrid, but on reflection as its only done 12k miles, drives brilliantly, is fine mechanically (if not pristine bodily so not worth a lot as a px) we decided to keep it. For the cost of an annual mot and service it seemed folly to sell it so instead we'll just use it as a spare. Already the value is slightly higher on Motorway than it was a year ago. Cant see that we will ever go full electric, unless they give us no choice.

Instead I have been mostly driving my BMW 135m, it's 2010 (before it all got too silly), and is great fun to drive. Its 3 litre and I noticed today when I drove it to Sainsbury's and back, it didn't once need to go above 2000 revs (unless you want some fun and give it some beans) so its also very good on fuel.

jimmymelrose · November 13

CAFC_CAT said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

It is true about this applying to everything. Not just cars. It will boils my p*** that governments don't do anything about it. There is a growing movement, 'Right to Repair' and if governments were truly green, they would embrace it. Tvs for example are not designed to be fixed, especially the cheaper ones. A common failure on LED TVs are the LED backlight strips. A monkey could have designed the TVs for easy replacement but no, it becomes a hard job and in some cases an impossible job. How is is great for the evironment to build these things and throw them away after a few years? A lot of the green stuff governments come out with is rubbish if these issues are not addressed.

Going back to cars, electric vehicles and heavy ICEs cause more damage to roads so absolutely right they have to pay road tax!

Sorry but that part almost made me laugh😅... You have too much faith in them! They are led by politicians and politicians are the most untrustworthy, the most hypocritical, the greediest and the most coldblooded people in the world. The only difference between one and another is just some of them make an effort to pretend that they care while others just don't bother.

Which is why he said WERE in the first clause and WOULD in the second clause. It’s a hypothetical conditional which shows that he has no faith in them because he recognises that they are not ’truly green’. The laugh is on you, I’m afraid.

jonseventyfive · November 28

First and probably only week of commuting in the Ioniq, plugged in a couple of times on the M1 while having coffee breaks, car drove well and did its stuff completely as it should, home charged every night and was a little surprised how much variation there is when charging overnight, up to thirty odd miles depending on temperature.

Rothko · November 28

Yeah cold weather is a range killer.

taking the Elroq to Coventry tomorrow. So first long run on the motorway, only planning to stop once on the way back for a quick charge and feed the boy

C.Walsh'sLoveChild · November 29

Coming to the end of four years and 90k miles with my Ioniq5 and looking for my next electric car.
Have so far whittled it down to the either the Ioniq9, BMW ix3 or Audi A6 Avant.
Anyone had experience of either of these?

Rothko · December 1

Rothko said:

Yeah cold weather is a range killer.

taking the Elroq to Coventry tomorrow. So first long run on the motorway, only planning to stop once on the way back for a quick charge and feed the boy

So did the run, all good, 4 in the car, pouring rain, and cold so heating on all the way. Left Greenhithe with 100% got to Cov with 55% in the battery still. Came back with a 20-minute charge back to 80% at Watford gap, and then home with 45% left to go.

MrOneLung · December 1

Rothko said:

Rothko said:

Yeah cold weather is a range killer.

taking the Elroq to Coventry tomorrow. So first long run on the motorway, only planning to stop once on the way back for a quick charge and feed the boy

So did the run, all good, 4 in the car, pouring rain, and cold so heating on all the way. Left Greenhithe with 100% got to Cov with 55% in the battery still. Came back with a 20-minute charge back to 80% at Watford gap, and then home with 45% left to go.

which model have you got @Rothko

had our MG ZS for 3 years now and thinking of a change

Rothko · December 1

MrOneLung said:

Rothko said:

Rothko said:

Yeah cold weather is a range killer.

taking the Elroq to Coventry tomorrow. So first long run on the motorway, only planning to stop once on the way back for a quick charge and feed the boy

So did the run, all good, 4 in the car, pouring rain, and cold so heating on all the way. Left Greenhithe with 100% got to Cov with 55% in the battery still. Came back with a 20-minute charge back to 80% at Watford gap, and then home with 45% left to go.

which model have you got @Rothko

had our MG ZS for 3 years now and thinking of a change

We have an Edition 85. Really like it, didn't go for the slightly higher spec with the matrix lights etc, but it's very well specced out for the price, and is a really good car.

Rob7Lee · December 1

Saw my friendly dealer on Saturday for one of my cars MOT's.

The car market (second hand) is absolutely on it's backside. This time of year they'd normally sell around 6-9 a week, hadn't sold a car in over a fortnight.

Auctions are still really struggling to shift cars, in particular electric one's. It may pick up a little now the budget is done, but not a happy place right now if your a S/H dealer.

dickad1 · December 1

Handed back my 2022 BMW IX40 last Tuesday at the end of its lease. It's been my favourite car ever, by some distance.

Somewhat in mourning, but we had a lovely last day together - including a special final trip, pictured below...

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5000498/uploads/editor/dt/yf9ugermr84t.jpeg

queensland_addick · December 2

Anyone looking at the Xiaomi YU7 ?
I've had Xiaomi Phones for years and am a big fan of the company.
I never imagined that they'd suddenly move into EV's, but it sounds like they've really hit the nail on the head with their first offering.
Unfortunately not available in Australia just yet.

bobmunro · December 2

C.Walsh'sLoveChild said:

Coming to the end of four years and 90k miles with my Ioniq5 and looking for my next electric car.
Have so far whittled it down to the either the Ioniq9, BMW ix3 or Audi A6 Avant.
Anyone had experience of either of these?

No direct experience but the Ioniq 9 looks good compared to say the EV9. If you need/want a 7 seater then it looks like a pretty good choice.

Not as big, but if 5 seats are enough then the new iX3 looks tough to beat. I'm planning a test drive in one in the new year and will more than likely get one as my wife's replacement car.

letthegoodtimesroll · December 3

C.Walsh'sLoveChild said:

Coming to the end of four years and 90k miles with my Ioniq5 and looking for my next electric car.
Have so far whittled it down to the either the Ioniq9, BMW ix3 or Audi A6 Avant.
Anyone had experience of either of these?

90,000 x 3p = £2,700 extra running costs to factor in for the next one.

JohnBoyUK · December 3

bobmunro said:

C.Walsh'sLoveChild said:

Coming to the end of four years and 90k miles with my Ioniq5 and looking for my next electric car.
Have so far whittled it down to the either the Ioniq9, BMW ix3 or Audi A6 Avant.
Anyone had experience of either of these?

No direct experience but the Ioniq 9 looks good compared to say the EV9. If you need/want a 7 seater then it looks like a pretty good choice.

Not as big, but if 5 seats are enough then the new iX3 looks tough to beat. I'm planning a test drive in one in the new year and will more than likely get one as my wife's replacement car.

My brother/sister-in-law have had their EV9 for the last 18 months and its a good motor. I driven it a couple of times, its pretty quick and its very comfortable. Its really roomy as a 7 seater, feels much bigger than our 7 seat Volvo XC90 when all seats are being used. Can comfortably seat two Adults in the rear seats.

When we finally get rid of our XC90 (6 years old from brand new, only just gone over 50k miles now), its definitely on the contender list.

bobmunro · December 3

JohnBoyUK said:

bobmunro said:

C.Walsh'sLoveChild said:

Coming to the end of four years and 90k miles with my Ioniq5 and looking for my next electric car.
Have so far whittled it down to the either the Ioniq9, BMW ix3 or Audi A6 Avant.
Anyone had experience of either of these?

No direct experience but the Ioniq 9 looks good compared to say the EV9. If you need/want a 7 seater then it looks like a pretty good choice.

Not as big, but if 5 seats are enough then the new iX3 looks tough to beat. I'm planning a test drive in one in the new year and will more than likely get one as my wife's replacement car.

My brother/sister-in-law have had their EV9 for the last 18 months and its a good motor. I driven it a couple of times, its pretty quick and its very comfortable. Its really roomy as a 7 seater, feels much bigger than our 7 seat Volvo XC90 when all seats are being used. Can comfortably seat two Adults in the rear seats.

When we finally get rid of our XC90 (6 years old from brand new, only just gone over 50k miles now), its definitely on the contender list.

I bought an XC90 last year and although a great car and supremely practical I just couldn't get on with it - primarily because I never envisaged a Volvo as my retirement car. So I sold it and bought a very late middle aged crisis toy (with my wife's blessing as well - she's a keeper). We are replacing her car next year (current Q3) and the iX3 looks like a good replacement with the range it has as her car will be our family car and in which we will do the most mileage. Anything bigger than the iX3 might be too big for her although the EV9/Ioniq9 look great. Perhaps the Sante Fe (hybrid) might be ok for her.

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