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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,394
    MrOneLung said:
    Harry Brook totally not reading the room and saying they have had a fantastic time off since the last test
    https://x.com/bbctms/status/2000502217967906991

    "We had a belting time"
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,951
    Are the players not allowed time off? And if they're asked the question what do you expect them to do? Lie and say it was awful and they were miserable the whole time?
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,400
    fenaddick said:
    Are the players not allowed time off? And if they're asked the question what do you expect them to do? Lie and say it was awful and they were miserable the whole time?
    Theres a middle ground though isnt there. if that was put to me in that situation I'd say something like "We've been working hard, had some great sessions. We've also managed to take a little time away from cricket and have a little rest physically and mentally"
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,298
    Addick Addict said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    So I think it's safe to say the Shoab Bashir experiment is over. What a debacle and horrendous management from Key and Mccullum. Written off every county spinner that's actually taken wickets for someone who was Somerset's third choice and now can't even get a county contract. Rehan Ahmed next summer then? 
    The sad thing is that he is going to struggle to actually have a meaningful career. He's not a white ball spinner, can't bat and teams in the CC might only need him for half a season. Bethell is in a similar position, so far as his stunted development is concerned, but he has the advantage of being a white ball player too.  

    This is as much down to the ECB as it is McCullum and Key though. The effectiveness of the CC and the 50 over competition, as schools for young cricketers to develop their careers, has been totally eroded. The England management can't trust the pathway so find themselves selecting on "hunches" and "analysts" but compound that by then over protecting them, in enforcing those central contracts, in refusing to use those vehicles to allow those players to learn their craft. 
    Hit the nail on the head there , Bashir isn't going to get another Div 1 deal because the majority of them will have frontline spinners already signed and most aren't complete No11s. Bethell I'd love to see actually play in the CC next year but he'll probably be carrying the drinks in the IPL for someone for the first chunk of games. 

    This entire management philosophy from the ECB down has been a disaster in terms of how they treat the county game in recent years. Feels like it's the poor relation to the cash cow of The Hundred which in turn has turned the 50 over competition into crickets answer to the Vertu Trophy where counties are just blooding academy talents because the first team aren't around. Of course this can work out well in the long term  , certainly for Kent getting the likes of Ben Dawkins time in the middle is useful but the whole competition feels like a complete afterthought. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,236
    fenaddick said:
    Are the players not allowed time off? And if they're asked the question what do you expect them to do? Lie and say it was awful and they were miserable the whole time?
    I wonder what Charlton fans would think if the team were in the relegation zone, playing terribly and looking like they weren't up for "the fight".

    Then in a Thursday press conference, a player says that since the last defeat we haven't spoken about football or been on the training ground once.

    But we have had a great time enjoying ourselves and not giving a second thought to our critical position. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,951
    Covered End said:
    fenaddick said:
    Are the players not allowed time off? And if they're asked the question what do you expect them to do? Lie and say it was awful and they were miserable the whole time?
    I wonder what Charlton fans would think if the team were in the relegation zone, playing terribly and looking like they weren't up for "the fight".

    Then in a Thursday press conference, a player says that since the last defeat we haven't spoken about football or been on the training ground once.

    But we have had a great time enjoying ourselves and not giving a second thought to our critical position. 
    But that isn’t what Brook said, they have been training and they had a few scheduled days off. I bet you our players had a few days off in the international break despite our poor form too 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,236
    fenaddick said:
    Covered End said:
    fenaddick said:
    Are the players not allowed time off? And if they're asked the question what do you expect them to do? Lie and say it was awful and they were miserable the whole time?
    I wonder what Charlton fans would think if the team were in the relegation zone, playing terribly and looking like they weren't up for "the fight".

    Then in a Thursday press conference, a player says that since the last defeat we haven't spoken about football or been on the training ground once.

    But we have had a great time enjoying ourselves and not giving a second thought to our critical position. 
    But that isn’t what Brook said, they have been training and they had a few scheduled days off. I bet you our players had a few days off in the international break despite our poor form too 
    I was referring to the clip posted above where Brook says in the break we tried to stay away from cricket and had a belting time.

    Perhaps you listened to the full interview which was not posted above.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,151
    Another sound bite (no pun intended) to come out today is stokes saying he wants England "to show a bit of dog"

    I have no idea what that even means?? 
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,952
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Another sound bite (no pun intended) to come out today is stokes saying he wants England "to show a bit of dog"

    I have no idea what that even means?? 
    Comes from rugby. Means to show some fight/determination when under the cosh. Decent sound bite to be fair. Whether this team has any fight in it, I guess we’ll find out over the next few days 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,386
    I've mentioned previously that the England bowlers won't be doing that much bowling in the nets relative to the time spent by batters in the nets which is one of the frustrations given what Jimmy Anderson talked about in terms of preparation. Footage that is published of them doing so is purely for social media.

    As with other Ashes series, the Darren Lehmann Cricket Academy in Adelaide have provided the net bowlers for both England and Australia prior to this Test. Some of the footage of world class batters, from both camps, getting out is always interesting in that scenario but even more so for those 18-20 year olds that have taken those scalps. 

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