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England Cricket 2025

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,335
    edited 7:02AM
    271-4 at stumps

    Australia lead by 356.

    Head 142 n/o
    Carey 52 n/o

    Unbeaten partnership of 122
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,116
    The Jacks pick is going swimmingly.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,090
    The Jacks pick is going swimmingly.
    You can’t convince me he is a better spinner than Root. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,335
    MrOneLung said:
    The Jacks pick is going swimmingly.
    You can’t convince me he is a better spinner than Root. 
    Jacks 19-0-107-1
    Root 8-0-32-0
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,334
    It's all very depressing but very predictable. 

    We could all see it was gonna be 5-0 after the first test couldn't we?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,185
    Dunno how anyone is still giving these wankers the time of day (or night)
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,319
    I thought all the planning and thinking for the last few years was to make a side that would be competitive down under.... I don't think it's too early to start the post mortems now because this needs to be an absolutely seismic change in thinking from the ECB. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,443
    edited 9:09AM
    It's all very depressing but very predictable. 

    We could all see it was gonna be 5-0 after the first test couldn't we?

    We're very good at winning dead rubbers and preforming when the pressure is off, though. Australia won't necessarily be totally invested in winning a long series especially when they will take the opportunity to  rest the likes of Starc and Boland. I hope that doesn't happen because it is those pointless wins that the English management tend to focus on - "we showed what we are capable of and need to build on that now". There's a reason why we haven't beaten Australia and India in series since 2018. 

    Ironically, Australia have, themselves, their own re-building process prior to the 2027 Ashes especially in the fast bowling ranks. The difference is that they are starting from a higher base and will gradually feed those players in. Where we find a spinner from, under the current system of prioritising "step and hit" cricket I really do not know.     
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,086
    Baz Ball Bollocks. McCullum has to go.
    There is a reason why Test matches are scheduled for five days!

    There needs to be a root and branch review into the structure of cricket in England - they need to decide whether or not they want England's performances in tests to be a priority, or not.If it is then scrap the bash/20/20 non-cricket crap and focus on the county game. Not sure the ECB have the cohones though, and the counties would oppose because they are about the only money spinners they have.

    If the ECB don't do it then I fear England Test Match cricket as we used to know and love is dead.

  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,319
    It's all very depressing but very predictable. 

    We could all see it was gonna be 5-0 after the first test couldn't we?

    We're very good at winning dead rubbers and preforming when the pressure is off, though. Australia won't necessarily be totally invested in winning a long series especially when they will take the opportunity to  rest the likes of Starc and Boland. I hope that doesn't happen because it is those pointless wins that the English management tend to focus on - "we showed what we are capable of and need to build on that now". There's a reason why we haven't beaten Australia and India in series since 2018. 

    Ironically, Australia have, themselves, their own re-building process prior to the 2027 Ashes especially in the fast bowling ranks. The difference is that they are starting from a higher base and will gradually feed those players in. Where we find a spinner from, under the current system of prioritising "step and hit" cricket I really do not know.     

    Oh I think the Aussies will turn up with a pretty good attack in 2 years - probably led by Fergus O'Neill and Xavier Bartlett. I have no idea what the England attack will be by then. 

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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,333
    MarcusH26 said:
    It's all very depressing but very predictable. 

    We could all see it was gonna be 5-0 after the first test couldn't we?

    We're very good at winning dead rubbers and preforming when the pressure is off, though. Australia won't necessarily be totally invested in winning a long series especially when they will take the opportunity to  rest the likes of Starc and Boland. I hope that doesn't happen because it is those pointless wins that the English management tend to focus on - "we showed what we are capable of and need to build on that now". There's a reason why we haven't beaten Australia and India in series since 2018. 

    Ironically, Australia have, themselves, their own re-building process prior to the 2027 Ashes especially in the fast bowling ranks. The difference is that they are starting from a higher base and will gradually feed those players in. Where we find a spinner from, under the current system of prioritising "step and hit" cricket I really do not know.     

    Oh I think the Aussies will turn up with a pretty good attack in 2 years - probably led by Fergus O'Neill and Xavier Bartlett. I have no idea what the England attack will be by then. 
    They'll be picking the usual suspects including the always injured Wood.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 13,016
    edited 10:25AM
    bobmunro said:
    Baz Ball Bollocks. McCullum has to go.
    There is a reason why Test matches are scheduled for five days!

    There needs to be a root and branch review into the structure of cricket in England - they need to decide whether or not they want England's performances in tests to be a priority, or not.If it is then scrap the bash/20/20 non-cricket crap and focus on the county game. Not sure the ECB have the cohones though, and the counties would oppose because they are about the only money spinners they have.

    If the ECB don't do it then I fear England Test Match cricket as we used to know and love is dead.

    It doesn't need to be one or the other. The Australians take red ball domestic cricket more seriously than us, have a successful T20 league (even if it is fading a bit now), and have won both white ball World Cups as well as the WTC in recent years. The ECB definitely need to take the county game more seriously but that doesn't mean you have to lose the white ball stuff, it just needs proper structure