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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Sheffield United: Saturday 17th January 2026: KO 15:00

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  • It was clear with the team selection that we wanted to weather the storm and pick them off after 60 mins once they were knackered. Kaminski kept us in it whilst Sheffield smelt blood as they would have known we lacked confidence and had revised defence  I suspect they eventually got frustrated as they should have killed the game by the time the fouls started.

    Second half Sheffield put 9 behind the ball hoping for a counter goal. We helped them by being one dimensional with continuous chips into the box by TC. 

    Glad Bree is gone as he lost interest in us recent games. Anderson is not good enough for the championship especially our pragmatic approach. 

    I guess in the end we did what was needed and move onto Tuesday with a fresher squad than otherwise would have been. Still need someone to come in on the left. COYA
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,925
    First half Sheff Utd started as expected front foot , full of confidence the good thing was we stayed in the game .. i do question NJ team selection in midfield and that caused us issues the whole game .. Anderson ?? the only reason we were in the game at HT was Kaminski… two or three excellent saves and was clear MOM … then the sending offs and the changes …. Don’t think NJ done enough at ht we should have stretched the play but didn’t .. good goal
    from Carey after knock down from Dykes .. but then we got it wrong , don’t get me wrong Sheff Utd never looked like scoring second half but we didn’t go for the kill .. we did not keep procession well enough especially at the back , the crowd did not help and when played the ball forward Sheff Utd coped well which is what they wanted .. Campbell had no one marking him at all and he had so much space and time yet again failed to deliver a killer cross he was poor .. why oh why Apter not playing .. .. we huffed and puffed but it got a little nervous cause it was a massive result .. at the end of the day it was massive 3 points against a team who were in top form .. does not matter how you get it , performance it’s about winning and we did .. we seen it thousands of times that sending offs effects the other team more … but today I think NJ got it badly wrong both in starting line up and at ht with the subs and his game management through the second half
    Massive clown.

    If anyone other than the OP had written that, you wouldn’t have said that. There have been countless other posters saying similar on this thread.

    Ronnie says some bizarre stuff sometimes but that’s a blend and mix of opinions from every other post on here. Don’t see the problem with it 
    Believe me, I would.
    How he can berate TC after that performance is beyond me. He terrorised them and changed the game.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,499
    Weird that we still haven't heard from NJ.
    Saw him head straight for the tunnel after full time. He seemed to get a fair bit of direct abuse from a few fans behind him. I’m sure it’s tied to him not giving an interview yet and we might hear something about how the tense crowd made it hard for the players to settle and add to the scoreline.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,669
    Smithy said:
    There are no words to describe how bad that was so I won’t bother trying to find them. Very glad of the 3 points because it’s tough to see many wins coming soon. Jones seemingly stormed off at the end and was fuming that fans were calling for more urgency so should be an interesting interview. Time to move on and never think of that game again. 
    If the manager cant understand why fans would not be happy with the team not going for the jugular playing against 9 men at home then he either doesn't understand football fans or shouldn't be a manager.....or both.
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,892
    edited January 17
    A really weird game.

    Kaminski kept us in it and I’m assuming the Kaminski who was included in the tribute prior to the game is his father.. If so a clean sheet and great performance for him is very apt.

    We rode our luck and looked bereft of any idea or confidence. Wine the Southampton game we have looked so easy to run through.

    But…two red cards (both seemed so live), although it seems we were lucky with Knibbs not getting at least a yellow gave us the kick we needed.

    I totally get the changes Jones made. Utd were going to defend their box and allow us possession out wide. Therefore TC and Dykes were more than sensible decisions. 

    Once we went one up we seemed uncertain as to whether to push for the second. We did have some reasonable chances but we didn’t ever look comfortable. 

    It’s a win and that’s really all we can be positive about really.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,920
    edited January 17
    Realistically, fucking useless performance from start to finish. It looked like Nathan was about to make 3 changes when knibbs got taken out and then had to quickly rethink that. Second half we attacked with gusto and were quickly rewarded with a goal. Then, for some inexplicable reason, we had players slowing down the game every time we had the ball, which in turn gave the remaining 8 outfield men of white shorts and shirted ‘dirty Leeds’ time to amble around and shut us down. 

    Still, 3 points and that’s all that matters.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,874
    Dazzler21 said:
    On the second red card, watching the replays I'd say definite yellow, harsh red. It wasn't exactly a shearer elbow but he came in at velocity. 
    It was a massive forearm smash to a defenceless opponent. I think he can have no complaints and don’t expect it to be overturned if they appeal.
    No way will they apeal.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,714
    fenaddick said:
    Rodwell needs to have a quiet word with NJ. The frustration in the crowd, with us hanging on to a narrow 1-0 lead was entirely justified. 

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,911
    I don’t mind trying to slow it down, but if you are shifting the ball to create something, that bit needs to be done with pace and quality, which without say Berry isn’t there. Probably need Kelman there to be able to run in and make the defence move out of shape. Otherwise it’s easy for a player of Ben Mee’s quality to defend those crosses 
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,405
    edited January 17
    First half Sheff Utd started as expected front foot , full of confidence the good thing was we stayed in the game .. i do question NJ team selection in midfield and that caused us issues the whole game .. Anderson ?? the only reason we were in the game at HT was Kaminski… two or three excellent saves and was clear MOM … then the sending offs and the changes …. Don’t think NJ done enough at ht we should have stretched the play but didn’t .. good goal
    from Carey after knock down from Dykes .. but then we got it wrong , don’t get me wrong Sheff Utd never looked like scoring second half but we didn’t go for the kill .. we did not keep procession well enough especially at the back , the crowd did not help and when played the ball forward Sheff Utd coped well which is what they wanted .. Campbell had no one marking him at all and he had so much space and time yet again failed to deliver a killer cross he was poor .. why oh why Apter not playing .. .. we huffed and puffed but it got a little nervous cause it was a massive result .. at the end of the day it was massive 3 points against a team who were in top form .. does not matter how you get it , performance it’s about winning and we did .. we seen it thousands of times that sending offs effects the other team more … but today I think NJ got it badly wrong both in starting line up and at ht with the subs and his game management through the second half
    Massive clown.

    If anyone other than the OP had written that, you wouldn’t have said that. There have been countless other posters saying similar on this thread.

    Ronnie says some bizarre stuff sometimes but that’s a blend and mix of opinions from every other post on here. Don’t see the problem with it 
    I think it's the senseless digs at Campbell EVERY game. Today there is no reasonable way you can single him out for criticism, considering the rest of the team's performance. Ronnie is either trolling or obsessed.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,532
    Dykes also showing some people hopefully what a striker with a low scoring record can bring. Getting shoved about and still gets his header across the box for Carey to convert. Really pleasing that two things we have in the locker that haven’t been effective recently - the Gillesphey diagonal and Carey’s goalscoring quality outside the box - were knitted together by Dykes for the goal. The way we play a targetman with a bit of nous and experience can make a huge difference 
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,312
    First 45, even when Sheffield Utd down 10, we were dreadful. Thought we were going to get a thumping. Such a disconnect between defence, midfield. No fluency. Caught Sheffield cold 2nd half. But still couldn’t break down 9 men playing 8 in the box. We try to walk the ball in, Sheffield keeper did not have a shot to save. 
    But take the 3 points, did NJ snub the covered end? 
    Hope Knibbs is back soon , but looked season ending for the poor lad.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,648
    Realistically, fucking useless performance from start to finish. It looked like Nathan was about to make 3 changes when knibbs got taken out and then had to quickly rethink that. Second half we attacked with gusto and were quickly rewarded with a goal. Then, for some inexplicable reason, we had players slowing down the game every time we had the ball, which in turn gave the remaining 8 outfield men of Leeds time to amble around and shut us down. 

    Still, 3 points and that’s all that matters.
    I thought we were playing Sheffield United.

  • Realistically, fucking useless performance from start to finish. It looked like Nathan was about to make 3 changes when knibbs got taken out and then had to quickly rethink that. Second half we attacked with gusto and were quickly rewarded with a goal. Then, for some inexplicable reason, we had players slowing down the game every time we had the ball, which in turn gave the remaining 8 outfield men of Leeds time to amble around and shut us down. 

    Still, 3 points and that’s all that matters.
    I thought we were playing Sheffield United.

    I thought it was Leeds…
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,133
    fenaddick said:
    Hard to argue with anything he says tbh. He has a plan, he will guide us to safety and we will continue to build next season.

    21st is still a success.
    I agree. Thought it was a very balanced interview. Was careful not to criticize the crowd but pointed out the journey we are on and we need to be patient. And I agree with all he says. Doesn't mean I can't be disappointed with today's performance though and criticize aspects of it.
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,892
    edited January 17
    fenaddick said:
    Rodwell needs to have a quiet word with NJ. The frustration in the crowd, with us hanging on to a narrow 1-0 lead was entirely justified. 
    Agreed - NJ was as frustrated as we were with our inability to pass the ball a few yards, or to play it in front of the receiving player on the move. He was going loopy on the touchline.
    I get what he’s saying. We are nowhere near the level of other clubs in this league but it isn’t too much to expect our players to show some confidence and get the basics right. As the home team it is difficult to accept the first half an hour today. 
  • Didn't see the game as at Cirque de soleil at Royal Albert. But followed match thread. If id read the post match thread before finding out the final score i would have thought we'd lost! A win is a win, and today is such a bonus. Our job this year is too stay up. Attritional football but that's where we're at with most of our players league 1 standard. I thought we were shocking in the play off final but we won so who gives a shit how it's done. Next year invest and maybe we can start playing better football, this isn't a quick path to the promised land of the premier league, it will take time.
  • fenaddick said:
    Hard to argue with anything he says tbh. He has a plan, he will guide us to safety and we will continue to build next season.

    21st is still a success.
    He makes an important point that 2 years ago we were looking at league 2 and now we have taken 6 points off SU.  Gives some perspective...

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,133
    fenaddick said:
    Rodwell needs to have a quiet word with NJ. The frustration in the crowd, with us hanging on to a narrow 1-0 lead was entirely justified. 
    Agreed - NJ was as frustrated as we were with our inability to pass the ball a few yards, or to play it in front of the receiving player on the move. He was going loopy on the touchline.
    I get what he’s saying. We are nowhere near the level of other clubs in this league but it isn’t too much to expect our players to show some confidence and get the basics right. As the home team it is difficult to accept the first half an hour today. 
    That's a gripe of mine. Simple cross field passes going behind the receiving player who has to double back to get the ball and is then closed down forcing us to needlessly go backwards. It happened time and time again. Anderson the main culprit but by no means the only one.
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,855
    Happy overall. Another 3 points. New signings looked good. Another good performance from Costello and Leaburn. Kaminski man of the match.
    Beaten them home and away. Thanks Wilder much appreciated 
  • As others have said. We won, but it didn't feel like a win. So pleased to get 3 points but christ was that painful to watch. It's the basic things like controlling the ball and making simple passes that we couldn't do. I know the championship is brutal but some of the players need to improve massively or we will be in trouble.
    The starting line up was all wrong and so it proved. If everyone else can see it why can't NJ!
    People are saying Clarke did well but I didn't see that myself. Thought he was ok defensively but going forward showed no pace, his passing was poor and one or two of his crosses were at waist height! Having said that he was not the worse player by a long way.
    I like the look of Dykes and how aggressive he was. Great impact with his first touch on his debut.
    I guess we take the 3 points and hope for a better performance next time.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,669
    We’ve gone from ‘I’ll take 21st any way possible’ at the start of the season to whining about winning very quickly, well done everyone. We’ve gained ground on Oxford, West Brom and Blackburn today while beating a team who I don’t think we expected to get 6 points off this season all without a functional LWB and missing some key players. I’ll definitely take it. It’s a good day
    It’s mad isn’t it. 

    Also people seem to have forgotten how well we played at the start of the season and assume we can never regain any of that form.

    a football season is ups and downs. More downs than ups recently but we won’t play that poorly again this year I’ll bet 
    Financial adverts are usually caveated with the words...." past performance is no guarantee of future returns".  And usually the best guide to the future is current trends. 

    We are nowhere near the team we were in August & September. We havent played well for months & only won today because the opposition went down to 9 men. We are the only team since the end of August not to score against Norwich and we have 3 tough games coming up before the month is out. No win in those 3 games could mean us being very close to the bottom 3.

    And before you start abusing me like you usually do you might do well to read every other post on here, who virtually to a man think we played poorly & were very lucky to get 3 points.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,039
    edited January 17
    Chris Wilder on the referee:
    ”I’ve never seen a ref get his cards out so quick. It was like Paul Daniels, it was like magic.”

    Conveniently stopping short of saying the red cards were wrong. 

    Because taking your time is more important than getting the big decisions right? Clown.
  • How do you win and still feel as we lost . I did not understand our tactics when they went to 9 as surely you should move the ball quicker and stretch their defence - Although Costello told everyone to slow the ball down and he did not even got into a trot . Walked around like he was Zidane !! 
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  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,812
    Typical
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,669
    Jonniesta said:
    Nathan Jones tries to get us 1-0 up then hold on. We've seen the formula. After showing how bad we were for 35 minutes, I'm more than happy with getting the 1-0 and holding on. United had every man back for most of the 2nd half. We'd basically stopped and they weren't pressing. It's annoying it wasn't more, but I've seen far worse performances in the last few years than that 2nd half, which was just controlled and dull. 
    Kaminski's first save and the goal were both absolute quality.
    And Wilder is a knob for his comments.
    I can understand being away from home, nicking a goal & then hanging on for the points.

    But at  HOME  against NINE men ??!!!

    Ye gods.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,072
    Last time we managed to contrive to go down despite Wigan's points deductions

    this time we've had a 12 point headstart over Sheffield Wednesday

    and now + 3 point advantage over rest of the league from handout today

    somebody somewhere is trying to help us stay up