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Be part of online meeting with club directors - Wednesday 21st January 7pm
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Limit supply, and demand could/should go up…LargeAddick said:Did I hear right and Carter say something along the lines of not selling season tickets in certain areas to increase matchday demand?
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Was there a question about the pitch?0
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Not watched it yet but half a loaf is better than no loaf at all.AFKABartram said:We all critique and pull apart what’s said because that’s human nature. At the end of the day though it still gives us more than we had before the session, so it’s worthwhile, and no one comes across badly.
It seems the new format is an improvement too
The debate and comments during and after (ignore before) show that there are many fans who are interested in finding out more about how the club is operating and these yearly events help fill that need.
My criticism is that it is only once a year.
Much of this information could have been given out months ago on social media, on CharltonTV monthly shows, in the programme, at Bromley Addicks (we wish!) and elsewhere. A steady flow of "fan engagement" rather than one big splurge.
For example, ST numbers could/should have gone out in September.
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Did anyone ask about jerom rousillons fitness?3
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Just reminds me of Wolverine.AFKABartram said:
Beard looking sharp but the real standout is the fierce and disciplined skin regime he must maintain. Positive glowing is our Jim, screaming ‘just back from Dubai’ . Soft and smooth, yet supporting a set of eyes that look like they want to smash everyone’s face with a snooker balled sock.AFKABartram said:Fully aware it will be a heavily prepared and managed exercise, but I’ll no doubt watch partly out of curiosity but mainly to admire the shaping and waxing of Rodwell’s beautifully curated beard.I’m sure the “working night and day” transfer efforts have been temporary paused this afternoon for some pre-camera emergency grooming.0 -
They had all that odd messaging they’ve been doing all season about the highest sales since X date, it’s bizarre that they don’t like putting numbers on thingsshirty5 said:
Amazed they never come out and mentioned it before the question was asked last night.shirty5 said:12, 500 season tickets sold this season
They are normally all over positive news but have clearly taken there eye off the ball here.2 -
That's all gone by the wayside now as there is only so many times you can push that narrative on tickets sold for each home game.fenaddick said:
They had all that odd messaging they’ve been doing all season about the highest sales since X date, it’s bizarre that they don’t like putting numbers on thingsshirty5 said:
Amazed they never come out and mentioned it before the question was asked last night.shirty5 said:12, 500 season tickets sold this season
They are normally all over positive news but have clearly taken there eye off the ball here.
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Like Welsh Drachmas?Callumcafc said:
Yes. Basically not for sale unless they get a silly money offer.ct_addick said:Did they say anything about the Brighton offer for Mbick?5 -
The current budget has us shopping in the 'good but poor injury record' aisle. If we are going to do that, then to be successful, we need to have sufficient quality back ups that allows these players to be rested, and allowed to recover - this so injury can be avoided.It is a legitimate question to ask what additional consideration of expertise in the medical team is there to help keep these players not getting reinjured. Is there a strategy for back ups to allow these players to be rested, so they are not played into the ground ? Is there sufficient quality to allow them to manage knocks and to be rested ?Amari'i Bell is a great player as is Josh Edwards. Given that the Championship is a tough league, I am still left wondering why there appeared insufficient cover for left back and left wing back. This might have helped Amari Bell and Josh Edwards playing and injury records be managed ?There is a new left back / left wing back loanee from LIverpool just coming back from injury. Is there cover for him to be able to be rested / rotated in the team, to prevent him from being reinjured ?I can appreciate that the club is attempting to manage the budget, but it is also good to be reassured that the strategy they are running has a chance of success. Leaving sparse patchy cover with injury prone players is not making the most of the budget. Its just a gamble, that a tough and well resourced championship is going to expose.2
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Also said the current zoning/banding for tickets was an inherited thing and they’re looking at it to make it much simpler and if areas are currently in the right/best place….. gave the example of the family zone being in the corner, would it be better elsewhere?sammy391 said:
Limit supply, and demand could/should go up…LargeAddick said:Did I hear right and Carter say something along the lines of not selling season tickets in certain areas to increase matchday demand?
I guess the pricing structure will also change….. I imagine overall revenue will be given a shove in the up direction…. how big a shove remains to be seen.0 -
The teams coming up from championship get the additional play off money of about 2 mil, but get the same £11 million that all the other (non Parachute) teams get, so I cant see why it gets harder. Teams coming up have to move from a Division one squad to a Championship squadAFKABartram said:
It will only get harder. We saw that during the prem years. When you get promoted you get a big budget bump that gives you initial scope. Stay up and 12 months on there’s three teams coming up getting that bump you’ll be competing that summer signing wise with, plus potentially more teams in the division carrying parachute payments.Sword65pf said:
I’m wondering how much the strategy would change should we stay up this season?AFKABartram said:We all critique and pull apart what’s said because that’s human nature. At the end of the day though it still gives us more than we had before the session, so it’s worthwhile, and no one comes across badly.I struggle to understand the ownership groups approach tbh. The club is unquestionably in a better place since they took over so I’m appreciative and acknowledging of that. But I just don’t get the strategy and my gut feel is there just isn’t the willingness to put the necessary funds there. Sensible and sustainable yes, but if we drop division our income will drop by around £12-15m a year, with a most likely higher wage bill. I just don’t think we’ve done enough to give ourselves a real chance of firmly staying in the division and planning for the next phase, it may well come down to good fortune if we do.
i don’t get the viewpoint that stabilising in the Championship then provides the platform for further. Your income generally plateaus and your wage bill steadily increases. Only sustainable way is decent player sales.
where existing clubs can improve year on year.0 -
Didn't manage to get on but what I've heard so far on here it all sounds a bit meh.
They were an enthusiastic bunch when they first turned up, but it sounds like they've rallied back on that initial ambition and are treading water a bit.
Like the first team, it sounds like they've gone a bit stale1 -
Did anyone ask Carter anything around the owners searching for new investment partners?0
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I quite enjoyed it.
Thought the answers were mostly clear. Jones is backed even if we were to be relegated, focus is on staying up and maximising match day experience. Kiosks are looking to be improved upon as they're not fast enough still despite having improved a bit. (Sounded like big changes will be made there)
No mention of pissy floors from what I remember.0 -
Interesting to hear that the CEO will be a commercial role, which makes sense to me.
But makes the Dane Murphy CEO role a bit confusing, as he was very much a "football and recruitment" person, duplicating Rodwell.2 -
Probably need to watch it then, your opinion might change, I think they are trying to be realistic/sensible. If that’s MEH, then it was a bit MEH. I’m now going to google MEH!!carly burn said:Didn't manage to get on but what I've heard so far on here it all sounds a bit meh.
They were an enthusiastic bunch when they first turned up, but it sounds like they've rallied back on that initial ambition and are treading water a bit.
Like the first team, it sounds like they've gone a bit stale1 -
Yescarly burn said:Did anyone ask Carter anything around the owners searching for new investment partners?1 -
They are searching, have hired a company to help them find new investors, they have no idea where the 20 million pound value has come from.carly burn said:Did anyone ask Carter anything around the owners searching for new investment partners?0 -
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The £20m valuation was a guess by Matt Slater and I’m pretty sure he made it clear it was a guess, people then took it as gospel and ran4
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gringo said:
The teams coming up from championship get the additional play off money of about 2 mil, but get the same £11 million that all the other (non Parachute) teams get, so I cant see why it gets harder. Teams coming up have to move from a Division one squad to a Championship squadAFKABartram said:
It will only get harder. We saw that during the prem years. When you get promoted you get a big budget bump that gives you initial scope. Stay up and 12 months on there’s three teams coming up getting that bump you’ll be competing that summer signing wise with, plus potentially more teams in the division carrying parachute payments.Sword65pf said:
I’m wondering how much the strategy would change should we stay up this season?AFKABartram said:We all critique and pull apart what’s said because that’s human nature. At the end of the day though it still gives us more than we had before the session, so it’s worthwhile, and no one comes across badly.I struggle to understand the ownership groups approach tbh. The club is unquestionably in a better place since they took over so I’m appreciative and acknowledging of that. But I just don’t get the strategy and my gut feel is there just isn’t the willingness to put the necessary funds there. Sensible and sustainable yes, but if we drop division our income will drop by around £12-15m a year, with a most likely higher wage bill. I just don’t think we’ve done enough to give ourselves a real chance of firmly staying in the division and planning for the next phase, it may well come down to good fortune if we do.
i don’t get the viewpoint that stabilising in the Championship then provides the platform for further. Your income generally plateaus and your wage bill steadily increases. Only sustainable way is decent player sales.
where existing clubs can improve year on year.
Charlton were in a better position than most and it’s why I’ve been saying all season that this particular season we are probably in a sweet spot compared to the other 23 teams in the division. We didn’t spend the sort of money the other two promoted clubs - Birmingham bought theirs in a one off hit, Wrexham have been buying promotion for years now. Those clubs that have had recent spells on the PL will be struggling with PL wage bills and commitments whether they have a parachute payment still
coming in or not. Those clubs that have been in the Championship for more than one season will have put their outgoings way beyond their incomes by now. We had a significant % boost from not only the tv money but also from an average extra 5k of fans through the gate, everyone including the 5k basically all paying more for their tickets compared to last years prices, other matchday income must have risen as well, plus other merchandising income would more likely have risen significantly as a percentage as well. We didn’t need to spend as much this season because we were shopping in a market where everyone else was basically trying to offload players1 -
The £20,000,000 story first originated on the “other site” posted by Mr know all RoV…..someone had his pants down with that one.😂msomerton said:
They are searching, have hired a company to help them find new investors, they have no idea where the 20 million pound value has come from.carly burn said:Did anyone ask Carter anything around the owners searching for new investment partners?1 -
We've had years (and years!) of terrible ownership and either horrendous or non-existent communication/engagement with fans. We now have a set of owners who are holding the likes of these Q&As, including fan representation on the panel, and actively encouraging fans to submit questions, and the overriding response on here is negative. Obviously given the open forum they will respond to some questions with a bit of a politicians answer but overall thought they were positive but balanced. Rodwell being criticised for saying we deserved a draw on Tuesday... he's not that far wide of the mark and anyway what do we want him to say? 'We were crap and deserved to lose 5-0'.
Charlton fans - 'We want ownership who are transparent and engage with fans' ...also Charlton fans - 'no not like that'
It's the same over on the Luke Chambers thread 'We need bodies in the building to cover the left-hand side of defence, a loan from a PL team would be ideal' ...and then it's 'no not that left-back' etc etc etc
Things are far from perfect at the moment of course, and this season was always going to be tough which naturally and rightly results in questions/criticism. Ultimately though, back in August if felt like a pretty unanimous view on here that the objection was to stay up, full stop. 21st or higher. Appreciate there is a lot of context around performances/recruitment etc, but at the end of the day we're currently 18th and 4 pts above the drop zone, by no means a positive situation but could be a lot worse and it's right where most of us, realistically, would have expected us to be before the season kicked-off.
There are some very short memories on here. Give me this board/team/manager any day of the week over anything else we've had to go through over the last 10 years (and more).
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Ah any comments about him or Hernandez. Rousillion was supposed to be ready before he joined us and then last week Jones said we were still getting him up to speed. Was he dead when we signed him and we are regularly resuscitating him, he has had more than a pre season time with us.golfaddick said:
So when would that have been.......Feb 1st ??? Then targets 2,3 & 4 have gone and we are left hunting in the bargain basement bins.Callumcafc said:
Clear from Rodwell’s later comments that Liverpool weren’t prepared to let him leave until he cleared certain thresholds in training and minutes for their U21s etc.Clem_Snide said:Rodwell - Luke Chambers was always our first choice 🤣🤣🤣
If he was truly our number 1 target then it makes sense that we would have waited for Liverpool to be satisfied. Otherwise we move on to target 2 or 3 or 4.
And why did we think a player who had been out injured for 7 months AND who Liverpool wanted to make sure had recovered properly was our No 1 target.
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no one asked about them.Kap10 said:
Ah any comments about him or Hernandez. Rousillion was supposed to be ready before he joined us and then last week Jones said we were still getting him up to speed. Was he dead when we signed him and we are regularly resuscitating him, he has had more than a pre season time with us.golfaddick said:
So when would that have been.......Feb 1st ??? Then targets 2,3 & 4 have gone and we are left hunting in the bargain basement bins.Callumcafc said:
Clear from Rodwell’s later comments that Liverpool weren’t prepared to let him leave until he cleared certain thresholds in training and minutes for their U21s etc.Clem_Snide said:Rodwell - Luke Chambers was always our first choice 🤣🤣🤣
If he was truly our number 1 target then it makes sense that we would have waited for Liverpool to be satisfied. Otherwise we move on to target 2 or 3 or 4.
And why did we think a player who had been out injured for 7 months AND who Liverpool wanted to make sure had recovered properly was our No 1 target.
That thinking left us signing Rousillion 2 months ago 🙄🤦♂️0 -
Generally think they all came across well and logic to all their answers - couldn't see that the millwall game was properly addressed other than there are police decisions made which incorporate wider things going on - i assume that is the march in central london - doesn't explain why we were held back 5 years ago as well whilst they were not - its bollox and nobody on the board gives enough of a shit about it. All the focus was on the timing of communicating that the police want to shaft us up the arse rather than stopping them from doing so - back to our mate Len Duvall and Prague - our only hope.1
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Yep, if we're going to be spending money on subsidising travel, Valley Express would be better value for money.gringo said:
but he's not wrong, he says that they are selling a large part of the away allocation already so free coaches would not make a huge difference to numbers, just subsidise the cost of those already going. Whilst thats nice to thank the support, its more important to focus the money on areas that will get the best impact, and I would say thats promoting home support, where we keep 95% of the gate money.stjohnshill said:Disappointing to hear Carter, a Charlton fan, say there is no financial value in ever offering any free coaches to away matches due to the home team keeping 95% of gate receipts.Not everything has to be about value. It’s a nice touch and a thank you to the fans, who would be very grateful. To offer it once or twice a season is fair and reasonable I think. I’m sure our billionaire owner can afford a few coaches once or twice a season5 -
I don’t think there’s harm subsidising coach travel for one away match. It builds goodwill with fans and wouldn’t cost a huge amount for the club. I’m surprised it was dismissed out of hand1
