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Solving the left side of the defence

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,153
    Players who have played left (wing) back for Charlton this season:

    Josh Edwards
    Amari’i Bell
    Kayne Ramsay
    Onel Hernandez
    Tyreece Campbell
    Macauley Gillesphey
    Ibrahim Fullah
    Rob Apter
    James Bree
    Luke Chambers
    Harry Clarke
    Reece Burke

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,069
    Roussillon next surely? Can't be much fucking worse!
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,791
    Interesting comment about Millwall going to back to basics with 442 … well why don’t we stop this wing back stuff ….. 

    kaminski 
    Clarke
    Burke
    Jones
    Chambers

    Apter
    Carey 
    Coventry 
    NEW WINGER 

    Kelman 
    Godden 

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,791
    Chambers looked ok today tough game but he will only get better .. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,069
    RonnieMoore said:
    Interesting comment about Millwall going to back to basics with 442 … well why don’t we stop this wing back stuff ….. 

    kaminski 
    Clarke
    Burke
    Jones
    Chambers

    Apter
    Carey 
    Coventry 
    NEW WINGER 

    Kelman 
    Godden 

    Never have I seen a more shit lineup for this season. 

    Absolute mug
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,153
    RonnieMoore said:
    Interesting comment about Millwall going to back to basics with 442 … well why don’t we stop this wing back stuff ….. 

    kaminski 
    Clarke
    Burke
    Jones
    Chambers

    Apter
    Carey 
    Coventry 
    NEW WINGER 

    Kelman 
    Godden 

    We played 442 second half today and still got dismantled. It’s not the magic wand some people think.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,424
    Callumcafc said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Interesting comment about Millwall going to back to basics with 442 … well why don’t we stop this wing back stuff ….. 

    kaminski 
    Clarke
    Burke
    Jones
    Chambers

    Apter
    Carey 
    Coventry 
    NEW WINGER 

    Kelman 
    Godden 

    We played 442 second half today and still got dismantled. It’s not the magic wand some people think.
    But in fairness, they probably havent trained for 442. Just a mad desperate decision mid game by Jones 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,153
    2121 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Interesting comment about Millwall going to back to basics with 442 … well why don’t we stop this wing back stuff ….. 

    kaminski 
    Clarke
    Burke
    Jones
    Chambers

    Apter
    Carey 
    Coventry 
    NEW WINGER 

    Kelman 
    Godden 

    We played 442 second half today and still got dismantled. It’s not the magic wand some people think.
    But in fairness, they probably havent trained for 442. Just a mad desperate decision mid game by Jones 
    But you have almost no way of knowing whether we’ve trained 442 or not, unless you have a mole at Sparrows Lane.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,745
    Callumcafc said:
    Players who have played left (wing) back for Charlton this season:

    Josh Edwards
    Amari’i Bell
    Kayne Ramsay
    Onel Hernandez
    Tyreece Campbell
    Macauley Gillesphey
    Ibrahim Fullah
    Rob Apter
    James Bree
    Luke Chambers
    Harry Clarke
    Reece Burke

    Question should be why are we still playing a formation that relies on LWB when we haven't had a serviceable one for months? 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,153
    edited January 24
    SELR_addicks said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Players who have played left (wing) back for Charlton this season:

    Josh Edwards
    Amari’i Bell
    Kayne Ramsay
    Onel Hernandez
    Tyreece Campbell
    Macauley Gillesphey
    Ibrahim Fullah
    Rob Apter
    James Bree
    Luke Chambers
    Harry Clarke
    Reece Burke

    Question should be why are we still playing a formation that relies on LWB when we haven't had a serviceable one for months? 
    Have we had a serviceable left back available to switch the formation?

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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,962
    edited January 24
    Maybe because we have only one centre back that can play in a back 4
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,044
    Alwaysneil said:
    Maybe because we have only one centre back that can play in a back 4
    Not to mention we don’t have anyone who can play LB who cant play LWB 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,172
    We aren't solving the left side of defence problem this season.
    Close the thread.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,966
    sam3110 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Interesting comment about Millwall going to back to basics with 442 … well why don’t we stop this wing back stuff ….. 

    kaminski 
    Clarke
    Burke
    Jones
    Chambers

    Apter
    Carey 
    Coventry 
    NEW WINGER 

    Kelman 
    Godden 

    Never have I seen a more shit lineup for this season. 

    Absolute mug
    If you’re going to rudely call someone a mug, then at least prove you’re not one yourself with an argument as to why you believe it to be a ’shit line up.’
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,356
    RonnieMoore said:
    Interesting comment about Millwall going to back to basics with 442 … well why don’t we stop this wing back stuff ….. 

    kaminski 
    Clarke
    Burke
    Jones
    Chambers

    Apter
    Carey 
    Coventry 
    NEW WINGER 

    Kelman 
    Godden 

    Christ, that’s a an upper mid table League One team!
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,925
    4-4-2 won’t work for us. A 2 man midfield when nearly every team plays with 3 in there would just mean we get overrun. Unless we completely abandon our press and sit behind the ball instead then us playing a 4-4-2 would see us carved open even more easily than we are at the moment 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,356
    I actually thought Chambers looked decent in the first half yesterday. 

    Assuming we stick with a five (and we really can’t play a back four as we don’t have a good enough CB to partner L. Jones whilst Bell is out) I think I’d go:

    Apter
    Burke/Clarke (can Clarke play CB?)
    Jones
    Gillesphey
    Chambers  

    Ramsay needs some time out, his performances have not been good lately and yesterday was the absolute nadir. 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,146
    Think the thread title needs an edit - solving the defence.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,925
    se9addick said:
    I actually thought Chambers looked decent in the first half yesterday. 

    Assuming we stick with a five (and we really can’t play a back four as we don’t have a good enough CB to partner L. Jones whilst Bell is out) I think I’d go:

    Apter
    Burke/Clarke (can Clarke play CB?)
    Jones
    Gillesphey
    Chambers  

    Ramsay needs some time out, his performances have not been good lately and yesterday was the absolute nadir. 
    Agree with this but also don’t think Bell is a back 4 centre back at all. We just don’t have the players to play a back 4 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,356
    NabySarr said:
    se9addick said:
    I actually thought Chambers looked decent in the first half yesterday. 

    Assuming we stick with a five (and we really can’t play a back four as we don’t have a good enough CB to partner L. Jones whilst Bell is out) I think I’d go:

    Apter
    Burke/Clarke (can Clarke play CB?)
    Jones
    Gillesphey
    Chambers  

    Ramsay needs some time out, his performances have not been good lately and yesterday was the absolute nadir. 
    Agree with this but also don’t think Bell is a back 4 centre back at all. We just don’t have the players to play a back 4 
    I fear you are right. And if you are, that means we’ve basically left ourselves where we are incapable of playing a back four, which is the most standard defensive formation. Complete negligence in that case.

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,925
    se9addick said:
    NabySarr said:
    se9addick said:
    I actually thought Chambers looked decent in the first half yesterday. 

    Assuming we stick with a five (and we really can’t play a back four as we don’t have a good enough CB to partner L. Jones whilst Bell is out) I think I’d go:

    Apter
    Burke/Clarke (can Clarke play CB?)
    Jones
    Gillesphey
    Chambers  

    Ramsay needs some time out, his performances have not been good lately and yesterday was the absolute nadir. 
    Agree with this but also don’t think Bell is a back 4 centre back at all. We just don’t have the players to play a back 4 
    I fear you are right. And if you are, that means we’ve basically left ourselves where we are incapable of playing a back four, which is the most standard defensive formation. Complete negligence in that case.
    I think Ramsay/Clarke, Burke, Jones, Bell would work but that can’t be plan A if it relies on Burke and Bell starting every game 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,044
    Think the answer is we need another proper LWB another LCB and send Macca back to Plymouth 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,356
    NabySarr said:
    se9addick said:
    NabySarr said:
    se9addick said:
    I actually thought Chambers looked decent in the first half yesterday. 

    Assuming we stick with a five (and we really can’t play a back four as we don’t have a good enough CB to partner L. Jones whilst Bell is out) I think I’d go:

    Apter
    Burke/Clarke (can Clarke play CB?)
    Jones
    Gillesphey
    Chambers  

    Ramsay needs some time out, his performances have not been good lately and yesterday was the absolute nadir. 
    Agree with this but also don’t think Bell is a back 4 centre back at all. We just don’t have the players to play a back 4 
    I fear you are right. And if you are, that means we’ve basically left ourselves where we are incapable of playing a back four, which is the most standard defensive formation. Complete negligence in that case.
    I think Ramsay/Clarke, Burke, Jones, Bell would work but that can’t be plan A if it relies on Burke and Bell starting every game 
    Would you trust Burke in that formation? Lot of pressure on him and I’m not certain he’s up to it. 
  • TomCAFC
    TomCAFC Posts: 30
    I do like seeing 3 at the back but it puts an extra emphasis on the wingers doing their bit defensively. Definitely not a strong point of Campbell or Apters game. Playing Clarke as a wingback offers absolutely nothing offensively. This is a proper mess now.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 14,753
    TomCAFC said:
    I do like seeing 3 at the back but it puts an extra emphasis on the wingers doing their bit defensively. Definitely not a strong point of Campbell or Apters game. Playing Clarke as a wingback offers absolutely nothing offensively. This is a proper mess now.
    I don’t think that’s true, he bombs up the pitch but his teammates ignore him which isn’t his fault 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,836
    edited 10:34AM
    NabySarr said:
    4-4-2 won’t work for us. A 2 man midfield when nearly every team plays with 3 in there would just mean we get overrun. Unless we completely abandon our press and sit behind the ball instead then us playing a 4-4-2 would see us carved open even more easily than we are at the moment 
    It's testament to how crap our midfield is that WE had that extra man in the middle yesterday, and yet we were the ones getting overrun.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,373
    The only way is to move the goals to the left hand touch line, problem solved.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,542
    Risk your most comfortable injury prone left sided player in a cup tie against Chelsea to keep the score down 
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,209
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Risk your most comfortable injury prone left sided player in a cup tie against Chelsea to keep the score down 
    Yes but the majority of people on this site wanted that, and applauded NJ for doing so. 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,542
    I know I’m cleverer than the majority of people (I’m no relation of Doucher’s ) 

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