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POST-MATCH THREAD: Millwall V Charlton Athletic: Saturday 24th January 2026: KO 12:30

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  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,409
    Valley11 said:
    On the positive side
    Chambers looked good. 
    But wtf do you spend weeks knowing you need a lwb then sign an unfit one?
    Madness 

    yeah not sure what the Chambers bashing is for.  He made a couple of fluffs, but for a player bought in just a few days ago, and supposedly without much match fitness, he did pretty good.  Passing was (mostly) decent, didn't seem afraid to stick a foot in and, most importantly, freed Campbell up to see the first half performance that he put in, which was excellent.

    Haven't seen any Chambers bashing (not to say there hasn't been I just haven't seen it) but I think most people acknowledge that we have needed cover in that position ever since Josh has been injured, we've had months to scout a replacement. What this team is short of is Championship experience & this is what was needed in that position because Gillesphey desperately needs help on that side. Instead what  we get is a very inexperienced youngster who hadn't played a competitive game since March 2025 & Jones is now saying that we have to manage his minutes. WTF !!! We then get rodwell telling us that Chambers was always our number one target, if this is true then our recruitment team including Jones need to take a long hard look at themselves. Quite honestly bearing in mind what was needed in that position & what we have brought in I think this is one of the worst transfer deals I can ever remember. I'm not having a dig at Chambers but he clearly isn't what we desperately need at this moment. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 45,016
    Looking at the players marks I'm surprised the newbie, Chambers is getting high marks. His defending was appalling, standing way off any attacking player. I know he's been injured for a year, but I was not enthused by my first sight of him.
    Early days, I know, but if he is going to be our left wing back saviour he needs to get up to speed quickly.
    Bleddy 'ell, give the poor lad a chance. Chambers is highly rated by Liverpool and certainly proved his pedigree by being selected consistently through all levels of the England development squads.

    He's been out injured for best part of a year, has had no competitive matches, doesn't even yet know his new team mates names - and thrown into a losing side shapeless and clueless.

    He shouldn't have been thrown in yet - and only started the match because Jones is so desperate for a LWB, any LWB.

    Allow the lad a proper chance to prove himself 
  • Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Time for the board and owners to show what they are about this week no ifs no buts. It will be clear this time next week, hope they make the right decisions, if they don’t the last year of good feeling will be a complete waste and to an extent avoidable. 
    What decisions? We've got a mediocre squad and a manager who seems pretty clueless. Signings seem unlikely.... We keep signing poor players.
    Luckily you aren’t on the board then, because no decisions would be made😜
    What are you hoping for?
  • Just received this text from the club - unfortunate headline.

  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,542
    My view is Jones is a good manager. I want him to stay. 
    A lot of whats gone wrong is” the roll of the dice” which will change.
    I believe he is a good motivator.
    just remember the dross we have had as managers in the last 18 years. He is probably the only decent one along with Bowyer.



    Record breaking SCP who got us to 9th on a non existent budget the season after ffs 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 45,016
    Request to Mr Jones, the manager:

    Back to basics, please.

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,739
    DDOUBLEE said:
    And I'm not even having this bollocks that Chambers was supposedly our "first choice" to sign. No way.
    He shouldn't have been, but who knows what's going on with the owners ? Maybe they don't want to spend on championship players but to sign a 21 year old who hasn't played a competitive game since March 2025 is criminal.
    Herein lies the problem, the cards dealt to Jones.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,739
    Bilko said:
    Think it’s a harsh result we were in that for long periods .. first goal clear offside , our goal perfectly good goal and suddenly we got one goal lead  to defend … but Jones got it wrong from the start and got  it wrong at HT .. …. Azeez the difference Millwall got him we got Campbell that’s the difference when you have someone who can create and cross the ball … we got three home games now he got to get it right no more fav like Campbell and Anderson .. time for Apter time for Kelman and Godden up top .. time to change the system .

    All you want is the ref to make the right decsions today if we had VAR. we would have been leading 0-1 heading into last  10 mins different game  … Coventry at home Pompey away poor decsions by the ref cost us but they get away with it
    It’s not a time to wind up fans with your pathetic comments, we should have been 3 down at HT. 
    They outclassed us all over the pitch and should have won by more.

    Just smell the coffee and do one.
    Should have been hoofed off once he first posted.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,824
    bobmunro said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Time for the board and owners to show what they are about this week no ifs no buts. It will be clear this time next week, hope they make the right decisions, if they don’t the last year of good feeling will be a complete waste and to an extent avoidable. 

    There is a week to go in this window. What we need are proven Championship players with the priority being the left side of defence and central creative midfield. We knew that at the start of the window, and in hindsight we made the errors in the summer recruiting, in Rodwell's words, players with potential. What we needed then and now are Championship proven players.

    With a week to go how many of that type of player do you really believe is a) available and b) would want to come to a club that has the real threat of relegation? It doesn't matter how much the owners might be prepared to gamble on staving off relegation if the players that might make the difference are not available.
    This.

    There is a reason why you need to get your business done early. Wont be much left this week & next Monday will be even worse.

    I'm not expecting any major signings & on deadline day getting in a couple of loans which will be more along the line of Chambers.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,739
    Gary Rowett is out of work……..just saying. 
    I'd rather they give you the job.

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,824
    Oggy Red said:
    Looking at the players marks I'm surprised the newbie, Chambers is getting high marks. His defending was appalling, standing way off any attacking player. I know he's been injured for a year, but I was not enthused by my first sight of him.
    Early days, I know, but if he is going to be our left wing back saviour he needs to get up to speed quickly.

    He's been out injured for best part of a year, has had no competitive matches, 


    Which making him our first choice for a LWB even more disgraceful. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,824
    Thought this mornings Charlton Live was an excellent listen. As was said, if yesterday was NJ's first game for us as manager then no-way would he had chosen that starting 11.

    And the dissection of the set up & players used was spot on. Louis Mendez should send NJ a copy to listen to 😀
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,739
    Gary Rowett is out of work……..just saying. 
    So is Bowyer
    Anyone else out of work want to join in...😉
    Rustle up 7 and they can do one day a week each.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,970
    Gribbo said:
    Never liked Gary Oldman anyway, overrated Eastenders type, who got lucky somehow, and who the fucks Daniel Day Lewis? Sounds like a 18th century American poet ffs

    Gary Oldman was pretty good in 'Slow Horses' early series.

    Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor but does tend to crawl too far up his own method acting arse,  making his films a bit humourless. Also, takes himself far too seriously. He was pretty good in 'Last of the Mohicans' though, that's a good film.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,408
    After that game one thing is clear … VAR needs to be brought into the championship … we now have had our games influenced to many times lately Coventry and Pompey and today .. .. 

    It won't be brought in for the Championship because of the cost but you are right it was offside but the Ass Ref decided it was prudent to keep his flag down for health and safety reasons ? His own !
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,507
    Can you imagine any Millwall player yesterday at 2-0 down having given a penalty away, still standing on the edge of the box after their keeper had saved it and the ball had been played back along the line and knocked in.  Three of ours were.  Hadn't bothered moving.
    Our players were probably shocked that one of our keepers had actually saved a penalty.

    I can't remember the last time we saved a penalty in normal time.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,204
    Can you imagine any Millwall player yesterday at 2-0 down having given a penalty away, still standing on the edge of the box after their keeper had saved it and the ball had been played back along the line and knocked in.  Three of ours were.  Hadn't bothered moving.
    Our players were probably shocked that one of our keepers had actually saved a penalty.

    I can't remember the last time we saved a penalty in normal time.
    With VAR that would have been retaken. Kaminski was miles in front of his line when it was taken.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,445
    Macronate said:
    They had Daniel Day Lewis and Gary Oldman in the crowd. Why the fuck didn’t we have Karl Howman and Bjorn Borg giving it back?
    Just to clarify a point.
    Daniel Day Lewis went to Invicta, Sherrington and to Charlton with me until he was 10 when he moved away.
    How the fuck he ended up 'millwall through and through' is a mystery to me.
    Yeah but then he went to sevenoaks school..
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,424
    Our left side vs Fatawu next week! 
  • chilham
    chilham Posts: 313
    Playing back the TV footage, I heard that the team arrived at The Den in a 'plain clothes' bus rather than the usual CAFC branded bus??

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,929
    edited 1:24PM
    NabySarr said:
    Nug said:
    NabySarr said:
    Nug said:
    We really need to get a tune out of the squad we have, I can’t see any signings of the quality we need coming in. Does anyone think Jones can again before the end of this season? I can’t see it, we are devoid of any ability to create even a handful of chances.
     
    I believe we need to make a change now, getting relegated will be a disaster, Jones is just too arrogant to change anything and falling out with your captain is not a good look. I don’t think Docherty has been great but we needed a player like him on the pitch yesterday. 

    I think someone could get these players fighting and using their abilities to the benefit of the team rather than just forcing them into this rigid awful system he’s stuck on. And what the hell is Hylton bringing to the table, our set pieces are shocking and if we’re going to play this negative system set pieces are our main opportunity to actually score.
    We are joint 5th in the championship for set piece goals scored this season. And joint 2nd best for least amount conceded from set pieces. Danny Hylton is far from the problem here
    I see that about conceeding but can’t find any data on set pieces scored. If that’s true that’s shocking and I’d then ask why we are where we are, dreadful football in open play that rarely generates chances. 

    Opta The Analyst website has the data. We’ve scored 11 from them and only conceded 5. Would guess we get a lot less attacking set pieces than most teams and end up defending more than most too. Statistically we are one of the best in the league at set pieces 
    I hate stats like this. What is a "set piece" goal anyway ?  A goal scored from a corner or free kick ? Obviously not "direct" because I dont believe we've scored one from a free kick (maybe Gillesphey?) and cant remember too many headers from a corner going in. I think the stats might include balls that have been "recycled" which to me is just part of football.

    I would love someone to tell me how many goals we have scored this season direct from a corner / free kick. And by direct from a corner I dont mean straight in obviously but 1 touch (or 2 touches if there is a flick on or knock back). I doubt if it’s more than 3 or 4.
    These are the goals we’ve scored from set pieces where the opposition haven’t cleared the ball. (Definitely more than 3 or 4)

    Knibbs  - Watford (H) 
    Gillesphey - Blackburn (H) 
    Burke - Sheff Wed (H) 
    Berry - Hull (A) 
    Jones - Southampton (H) 
    Knibbs - Coventry (A) 
    Knibbs - Pompey (A) 

    Other goals from second phase of corners where the opposition have cleared cleared it but not fully 

    Carey - Millwall (H)
    Gillesphey - Ipswich (A) 
    Leaburn - Ipswich (A) 
    Carey - West Brom (H) 

    My point is more that people are slagging off Hylton because he’s Jones mate, rather than the job he’s doing. Looking at the numbers he’s not doing badly at all  

  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,292
    bobmunro said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Time for the board and owners to show what they are about this week no ifs no buts. It will be clear this time next week, hope they make the right decisions, if they don’t the last year of good feeling will be a complete waste and to an extent avoidable. 

    There is a week to go in this window. What we need are proven Championship players with the priority being the left side of defence and central creative midfield. We knew that at the start of the window, and in hindsight we made the errors in the summer recruiting, in Rodwell's words, players with potential. What we needed then and now are Championship proven players.

    With a week to go how many of that type of player do you really believe is a) available and b) would want to come to a club that has the real threat of relegation? It doesn't matter how much the owners might be prepared to gamble on staving off relegation if the players that might make the difference are not available.
    This.

    There is a reason why you need to get your business done early. Wont be much left this week & next Monday will be even worse.

    I'm not expecting any major signings & on deadline day getting in a couple of loans which will be more along the line of Chambers.
    Agreed Golfie, there are players out there other clubs seem to manage it, even some league 1 and 2 clubs seem to do a lot of business in these windows compared to us. Everyone knows what we are lacking, but of course that may cost money to rectify it. The thought of not doing it is worse. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,408
    edited 1:24PM
    Gribbo said:
    Never liked Gary Oldman anyway, overrated Eastenders type, who got lucky somehow, and who the fucks Daniel Day Lewis? Sounds like a 18th century American poet ffs

    Not a fan of knighthoods like me Gribbo ?

    Gary Oldman (New Cross born) may have said he was a Man United fan but was definitely cheering on Millwall yesterday next to his method acting buddy Daniel Day-Lewis who is the son of Cecil Day-Lewis the Anglo Irish UK poet laureate from 1968-72.
    So you were only a couple of hundred years out and CD-L wasn't a yank !

    Daniel Day-Lewis first went down the Den when he wanted to study a certain type of Neanderthal for when he played Bill"the butcher" Cutting in 'gangs of New York' (2002)
    Daniel feels he has found his tribe when he goes down the Den. 

    Not a lot of people know this.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 45,016
    My view is Jones is a good manager. I want him to stay. 
    A lot of whats gone wrong is” the roll of the dice” which will change.
    I believe he is a good motivator.
    just remember the dross we have had as managers in the last 18 years. He is probably the only decent one along with Bowyer.



    Record breaking SCP who got us to 9th on a non existent budget the season after ffs 
    Although, should be remembered that season we had a pretty rubbish mid-season and dropped right down the table like now- before a good run of form towards the end of the season pushed us up into 9th place.

    Not too late yet for that to happen again ....... if Jones can sort it out.


  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,911
    Gary Rowett is out of work……..just saying. 
    I'd rather they give you the job.
    So would I as I’d be his assistant 😉
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,739
    aso914 said:
    Oxford and Norwich bought some decent talent this week as well, why are we just floating into oblivion. The club isn’t in a bad position but we’re just watching it fade away. Makes it even worse.
    Almost feels like we don’t care if we go down…. And we are already thinking about how we can be in a position to try and bounce back next year.

    Which is shit and inexplicable - but there you go.
    We don’t care. I got that impression during the directors meeting. The mentality seems to be if we step up then great if he don’t then that’s fine at least we have a squad capable of competing in League 1. 
    Optimistic. Many including NJ would leave. 

    Jones would probably only depart if sacked, IF we were to go down then his CV would not be shouting at the bigger clubs to come and get him.
    If we go down with him still in charge we have to give him a realistic budget of bouncing back BUT take away a lot of his clout with bringing in players, it has not been a fantastic success.
  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,421
    For anybody still wondering if RonnieMoore is a WUM, I'll post an excerpt from the player marks and let you make your own mind up

    CAMPBELL: 2 please no more enough is enough bet people will still defend him .. shocking performance 

    BURKE: 7 done ok ..
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,739
    Poor old Nathan, if we'd won 4-0 he'd have been the next best thing since sliced bread and we were going to stay up easily.
    Yes, yes, I know we lost.  Keep the faith people and congratulate him if we stay up.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,790
    Oggy Red said:
    Looking at the players marks I'm surprised the newbie, Chambers is getting high marks. His defending was appalling, standing way off any attacking player. I know he's been injured for a year, but I was not enthused by my first sight of him.
    Early days, I know, but if he is going to be our left wing back saviour he needs to get up to speed quickly.
    Bleddy 'ell, give the poor lad a chance. Chambers is highly rated by Liverpool and certainly proved his pedigree by being selected consistently through all levels of the England development squads.

    He's been out injured for best part of a year, has had no competitive matches, doesn't even yet know his new team mates names - and thrown into a losing side shapeless and clueless.

    He shouldn't have been thrown in yet - and only started the match because Jones is so desperate for a LWB, any LWB.

    Allow the lad a proper chance to prove himself 
    The fact is, Chambers isn’t fit enough to go straight into a side that desperately needs players ready to play 90 minutes. If he’s first choice for us then I worry about our scouting and recruitment strategy. We’re shopping in the bargain basement - not not long ago Nathan Jones was telling everyone our owners were ‘minted’ - more nonsense.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,408
    Thought this mornings Charlton Live was an excellent listen. As was said, if yesterday was NJ's first game for us as manager then no-way would he had chosen that starting 11.

    And the dissection of the set up & players used was spot on. Louis Mendez should send NJ a copy to listen to 😀

    It's a painful inquest but I can really recommend the many issues that are raised by Louis, Paul, Tom and Benji on this morning's show and the link is on General Charlton.