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Oi you lot, Rob Apter. Whats going on? - 28/01/26 gone on loan to Bolton (p7)
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4 year contract on a reported fee of £2 million back in the summer and after 6 months he’s been loaned out.
If Jones is still here in the summer then I don’t see Apter coming back and having a part to play at Charlton Athletic5 -
For the way Jones wants to play (rightly or wrongly), and with the amount of Championship experience each has, I'd say it's not an awful swap. But given that Bree started for Soton at the weekend I think the chances of him coming back are highly unlikely.Scoham said:He’s going to be replaced by Bree isn’t he?
As with others, I'm saddened by this. Probably not to the point of fuming, just because he wasn't getting a look in, but saddened. Thought he offered something different on the right and we're not exactly overly blessed with wingbacks at the moment either, and he's shown he can do a job there even if it's not his natural position. As with others we signed in the summer, he's here for a long time, not just a good time, so hopefully there's more to come from him. But I'm definitely envious of Bolton having him and CBT on either flank in League One. Would love to be a forward in that team, goals on one side, assists on the other.0 -
What? Why? We are desperately short of attacking quality and Apter is one of the few players who has it.
The decision making at this club is getting more and more random by the day.I mean bloody hell. If you need a player space Nathan, send your boy Luke Berry out on loan. I hear Burton are interested.4 -
Reminds me of Bowyer's surrealist period. That didn't end well and neither will this.5
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Final paragraph sums up my feelings on this, post him coming off against Millwall at home, he’s hardly set the world alight, and never seemed to grab the opportunity when it came up.Garrymanilow said:Weird. Even the statement from Rodwell is terrible, describing him just as freeing up space in the squad so we can strengthen and calling him an asset but in a way that makes it sound like his entire value is in pound notes. Don't like that at all. If you're looking for positives though he clearly wants to be playing and isn't happy at the moment. Bolton gives him a chance to play every week and it's very notable that the only clubs who seemed to be interested in him were in L1. I'm hopeful that he can come back in the summer, have a preseason where he works on his positioning and gets back into the team but I suspect that if rumours of a fallout with Jones after he got rightly dropped for Bree are correct then I doubt there's a way back.Feels like a bit of a 6 of one situation; Apter stopped tracking back towards the end of his time in the first team and then got completely eclipsed for goals and assists by Bree within 3 games so he can't even point at his attacking output to cover for it. In that time the story is that he got upset about playing and I think that meant when Bree was hurt and his form dipped there wasn't a way back in for Apter with Jones. It's unfortunate, maybe if he'd kept his head down he could have fought his way back in but it sounds like he didn't fancy that. I've never been a fan of freezing players out though, even when Curbs was doing it I hated it.There's some daft reactions on here though, the bloke that cost us points against QPR, wasted a huge number of our opportunities against Millwall, did nothing against Hull and then was so bad against Southampton he had to be hauled off after 24 minutes is being talked about like he was the key to saving our season. I also would have liked to see him given a chance to offer width and show what he's about in the remaining games but there aren't many bigger examples of players getting better the longer they're out of the team than Apter. The important thing is now that we replace him with someone who can attack as well as defend.Hopefully it works out in the summer and he can come back and make it work3 -
The guy that is still near the top of our chances created lists yeah?Garrymanilow said:Weird. Even the statement from Rodwell is terrible, describing him just as freeing up space in the squad so we can strengthen and calling him an asset but in a way that makes it sound like his entire value is in pound notes. Don't like that at all. If you're looking for positives though he clearly wants to be playing and isn't happy at the moment. Bolton gives him a chance to play every week and it's very notable that the only clubs who seemed to be interested in him were in L1. I'm hopeful that he can come back in the summer, have a preseason where he works on his positioning and gets back into the team but I suspect that if rumours of a fallout with Jones after he got rightly dropped for Bree are correct then I doubt there's a way back.Feels like a bit of a 6 of one situation; Apter stopped tracking back towards the end of his time in the first team and then got completely eclipsed for goals and assists by Bree within 3 games so he can't even point at his attacking output to cover for it. In that time the story is that he got upset about playing and I think that meant when Bree was hurt and his form dipped there wasn't a way back in for Apter with Jones. It's unfortunate, maybe if he'd kept his head down he could have fought his way back in but it sounds like he didn't fancy that. I've never been a fan of freezing players out though, even when Curbs was doing it I hated it.There's some daft reactions on here though, the bloke that cost us points against QPR, wasted a huge number of our opportunities against Millwall, did nothing against Hull and then was so bad against Southampton he had to be hauled off after 24 minutes is being talked about like he was the key to saving our season. I also would have liked to see him given a chance to offer width and show what he's about in the remaining games but there aren't many bigger examples of players getting better the longer they're out of the team than Apter. The important thing is now that we replace him with someone who can attack as well as defend.
Genuinely it's like you didn't watch the games he played in with this nonsense.
We look woeful going forwards under Jones, but at least we have 5 defenders that are still incapable of clean sheets I suppose.7 -
£2m + salary spent on this, yet Small released - a player who actually fitted the system to which Jones is resolutely committed.
An unbelievable combination of decision making.5 -
Do you think he will be keen to come back?Rothko said:
Final paragraph sums up my feelings on this, post him coming off against Millwall at home, he’s hardly set the world alight, and never seemed to grab the opportunity when it came up.Garrymanilow said:Weird. Even the statement from Rodwell is terrible, describing him just as freeing up space in the squad so we can strengthen and calling him an asset but in a way that makes it sound like his entire value is in pound notes. Don't like that at all. If you're looking for positives though he clearly wants to be playing and isn't happy at the moment. Bolton gives him a chance to play every week and it's very notable that the only clubs who seemed to be interested in him were in L1. I'm hopeful that he can come back in the summer, have a preseason where he works on his positioning and gets back into the team but I suspect that if rumours of a fallout with Jones after he got rightly dropped for Bree are correct then I doubt there's a way back.Feels like a bit of a 6 of one situation; Apter stopped tracking back towards the end of his time in the first team and then got completely eclipsed for goals and assists by Bree within 3 games so he can't even point at his attacking output to cover for it. In that time the story is that he got upset about playing and I think that meant when Bree was hurt and his form dipped there wasn't a way back in for Apter with Jones. It's unfortunate, maybe if he'd kept his head down he could have fought his way back in but it sounds like he didn't fancy that. I've never been a fan of freezing players out though, even when Curbs was doing it I hated it.There's some daft reactions on here though, the bloke that cost us points against QPR, wasted a huge number of our opportunities against Millwall, did nothing against Hull and then was so bad against Southampton he had to be hauled off after 24 minutes is being talked about like he was the key to saving our season. I also would have liked to see him given a chance to offer width and show what he's about in the remaining games but there aren't many bigger examples of players getting better the longer they're out of the team than Apter. The important thing is now that we replace him with someone who can attack as well as defend.Hopefully it works out in the summer and he can come back and make it work0 -
We have two strikers who are more than decent in the air and we get rid of the only bloke at the club that is capable of putting a decent ball in the box.8
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Let me ring him up and ask? But I don’t know, do I think he’s the right player now with the way the team is set up and where we are now, nope, could he be in the summer when the squad gets rebalanced, then maybe.Sword65pf said:
Do you think he will be keen to come back?Rothko said:
Final paragraph sums up my feelings on this, post him coming off against Millwall at home, he’s hardly set the world alight, and never seemed to grab the opportunity when it came up.Garrymanilow said:Weird. Even the statement from Rodwell is terrible, describing him just as freeing up space in the squad so we can strengthen and calling him an asset but in a way that makes it sound like his entire value is in pound notes. Don't like that at all. If you're looking for positives though he clearly wants to be playing and isn't happy at the moment. Bolton gives him a chance to play every week and it's very notable that the only clubs who seemed to be interested in him were in L1. I'm hopeful that he can come back in the summer, have a preseason where he works on his positioning and gets back into the team but I suspect that if rumours of a fallout with Jones after he got rightly dropped for Bree are correct then I doubt there's a way back.Feels like a bit of a 6 of one situation; Apter stopped tracking back towards the end of his time in the first team and then got completely eclipsed for goals and assists by Bree within 3 games so he can't even point at his attacking output to cover for it. In that time the story is that he got upset about playing and I think that meant when Bree was hurt and his form dipped there wasn't a way back in for Apter with Jones. It's unfortunate, maybe if he'd kept his head down he could have fought his way back in but it sounds like he didn't fancy that. I've never been a fan of freezing players out though, even when Curbs was doing it I hated it.There's some daft reactions on here though, the bloke that cost us points against QPR, wasted a huge number of our opportunities against Millwall, did nothing against Hull and then was so bad against Southampton he had to be hauled off after 24 minutes is being talked about like he was the key to saving our season. I also would have liked to see him given a chance to offer width and show what he's about in the remaining games but there aren't many bigger examples of players getting better the longer they're out of the team than Apter. The important thing is now that we replace him with someone who can attack as well as defend.Hopefully it works out in the summer and he can come back and make it work0 -
I mean this isn’t true we tried to extend Small’s contractpaulsturgess said:£2m + salary spent on this, yet Small released - a player who actually fitted the system to which Jones is resolutely committed.
An unbelievable combination of decision making.5 -
I think the problem is he refused to play sideways or backwards or across his own area2
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Most chances created in our squad, and is casted off, NJ is clueless0
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Not annoyed that he's gone, more annoyed that we wasted what little transfer funds we had in the summer on someone who isn't up to the level, you can add Knibbs and Olafe to that list too. A truly awful summer window with fees paid.6
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Appalling man management by Jones has led to this.
Why buy a slightly built but skilful winger and think you could play him as a right wing back?
And then when he couldn't do it, why just leave him sitting on the subs bench week after week?
And when Jones didnt leave him on the subs bench, why play him successfully at left wing back against Oxford and then never give him another chance?
Jones has effed this young man's development big time. If he's still here next season, I'd be amazed if Apter comes back.4 -
Mental. One of our few bits of creativity in past few months was him coming on v M'boro, driving up the wing and crossing it in causing an own goal.
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True, but remember, it was a better transfer window than the summer of 2011.J BLOCK said:Not annoyed that he's gone, more annoyed that we wasted what little transfer funds we had in the summer on someone who isn't up to the level, you can add Knibbs and Olafe to that list too. A truly awful summer window with fees paid.1 -
Middlesbrough I believe. But agree with the rest of your post.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Mental. One of our few bits of creativity in past few months was him coming on v oxford, driving up the wing and crossing it in causing an own goal.3 -
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Goodbye Rob - he never really had a chance and i doubt he will be coming back.
Will be interesting to see if NJ survives the summer, as i doubt the owners will keep him if we go down, which is where we are headed.
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shirty5 said:4 year contract on a reported fee of £2 million back in the summer and after 6 months he’s been loaned out.
If Jones is still here in the summer then I don’t see Apter coming back and having a part to play at Charlton Athletic
Footballers talk and it's a small world. Hardly a ringing endorsement for potential signings....come and sign as a big money player and get frozen out. Same has happened to Tanto to a degree.
Are players going to risk coming and being bomb squaded if there face doesnt fit.2 -
A perfect example of taking one statistic and warping it to suit a narrative. He created 4 big chances. That's good. He has one assist and one goal. The one game he scored in he cost us the first goal because he'd not tracked back properly. James Bree has 3 assists but doesn't appear on that list at all which is weird. He put one on a plate for Tanto against Sheff Utd to win us 3 points, put in a brilliant free kick for Gillesphey's goal against Blackburn and then did the same for Burke against Sheffield Wednesday. They don't meet the criteria for him to have created 'big chances' but then there he is putting assists on a plate for our goal-shy players. Goes to show that maybe the big chances statistic doesn't tell the whole story. It doesn't really matter either, as I said I would have preferred Apter to have been given a chance to show he can defend as well as attack. It doesn't change the fact that against QPR, Southampton and Millwall he cost us more than he contributed, which I don't think is contained within the sacred big chances statistic, and so the hand-wringing over him not being kept around to save our season isn't fully based in fact. It's a shame, we all hoped it would have worked out betterSELR_addicks said:
The guy that is still near the top of our chances created lists yeah?Garrymanilow said:Weird. Even the statement from Rodwell is terrible, describing him just as freeing up space in the squad so we can strengthen and calling him an asset but in a way that makes it sound like his entire value is in pound notes. Don't like that at all. If you're looking for positives though he clearly wants to be playing and isn't happy at the moment. Bolton gives him a chance to play every week and it's very notable that the only clubs who seemed to be interested in him were in L1. I'm hopeful that he can come back in the summer, have a preseason where he works on his positioning and gets back into the team but I suspect that if rumours of a fallout with Jones after he got rightly dropped for Bree are correct then I doubt there's a way back.Feels like a bit of a 6 of one situation; Apter stopped tracking back towards the end of his time in the first team and then got completely eclipsed for goals and assists by Bree within 3 games so he can't even point at his attacking output to cover for it. In that time the story is that he got upset about playing and I think that meant when Bree was hurt and his form dipped there wasn't a way back in for Apter with Jones. It's unfortunate, maybe if he'd kept his head down he could have fought his way back in but it sounds like he didn't fancy that. I've never been a fan of freezing players out though, even when Curbs was doing it I hated it.There's some daft reactions on here though, the bloke that cost us points against QPR, wasted a huge number of our opportunities against Millwall, did nothing against Hull and then was so bad against Southampton he had to be hauled off after 24 minutes is being talked about like he was the key to saving our season. I also would have liked to see him given a chance to offer width and show what he's about in the remaining games but there aren't many bigger examples of players getting better the longer they're out of the team than Apter. The important thing is now that we replace him with someone who can attack as well as defend.
Genuinely it's like you didn't watch the games he played in with this nonsense.
We look woeful going forwards under Jones, but at least we have 5 defenders that are still incapable of clean sheets I suppose.4 -
I tell you what , I don’t need to phone him, will he bollox, unless of course jones gets the tin tackRothko said:
Let me ring him up and ask? But I don’t know, do I think he’s the right player now with the way the team is set up and where we are now, nope, could he be in the summer when the squad gets rebalanced, then maybe.Sword65pf said:
Do you think he will be keen to come back?Rothko said:
Final paragraph sums up my feelings on this, post him coming off against Millwall at home, he’s hardly set the world alight, and never seemed to grab the opportunity when it came up.Garrymanilow said:Weird. Even the statement from Rodwell is terrible, describing him just as freeing up space in the squad so we can strengthen and calling him an asset but in a way that makes it sound like his entire value is in pound notes. Don't like that at all. If you're looking for positives though he clearly wants to be playing and isn't happy at the moment. Bolton gives him a chance to play every week and it's very notable that the only clubs who seemed to be interested in him were in L1. I'm hopeful that he can come back in the summer, have a preseason where he works on his positioning and gets back into the team but I suspect that if rumours of a fallout with Jones after he got rightly dropped for Bree are correct then I doubt there's a way back.Feels like a bit of a 6 of one situation; Apter stopped tracking back towards the end of his time in the first team and then got completely eclipsed for goals and assists by Bree within 3 games so he can't even point at his attacking output to cover for it. In that time the story is that he got upset about playing and I think that meant when Bree was hurt and his form dipped there wasn't a way back in for Apter with Jones. It's unfortunate, maybe if he'd kept his head down he could have fought his way back in but it sounds like he didn't fancy that. I've never been a fan of freezing players out though, even when Curbs was doing it I hated it.There's some daft reactions on here though, the bloke that cost us points against QPR, wasted a huge number of our opportunities against Millwall, did nothing against Hull and then was so bad against Southampton he had to be hauled off after 24 minutes is being talked about like he was the key to saving our season. I also would have liked to see him given a chance to offer width and show what he's about in the remaining games but there aren't many bigger examples of players getting better the longer they're out of the team than Apter. The important thing is now that we replace him with someone who can attack as well as defend.Hopefully it works out in the summer and he can come back and make it work0 -
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Middlesbrough I believe. But agree with the rest of your post.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Mental. One of our few bits of creativity in past few months was him coming on v oxford, driving up the wing and crossing it in causing an own goal.
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Hasn't been a transfer out universally criticized this much since yann1
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Not surprised and from what I've seen I don't think he was really good enough for this level,......but in all honesty you can say that about the vast majority of this squad.
The questions have to be asked as to why those responsible for recruitment have got this so catastrophically wrong?
I thought the better quality league one players may have a chance in this league. How wrong I was. The championship is a different beast from when last we were here. I completely underestimated the levels....but I'm not paid to estimate them.
People at this football club are , and appear to have got things very very wrong.2 -
Tanto going too. Maybe these exits are positive in that we're clearing the decks for some decent talent to come in.2
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..."allows us to strengthen in key areas...."mendonca said:Confirmed on https://www.charltonafc.com/news/rob-apter-joins-bolton-wanderers-loan
Well it's not really 'crazy' as he hardly plays for us. He's moved to Bolton which is around 38 miles from Blackpool. Hope he gets to reconnect with the football, pitch friends and family.
Wtf ??? I would say creating chances for our front men is a major key area you buffoon !!
I would say I'm done but I'm going to hold fire to see what the next few days bring. Will still support the club but like the selling of Alfie May it seems this club doesn't appreciate players that bring goals & excitement to the team.
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Wishful thinking mate. I'm not sure these owners really have the stomach for it if I'm honestRodneyCharltonTrotta said:Tanto going too. Maybe these exits are positive in that we're clearing the decks for some decent talent to come in.1
