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Jayden Fevrier Signs On Loan from Stockport County
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I think there's a very positive aspect to this signing which is that it suggests that Jones has recognised that we still need an option to have pace and width on the right. I don't know if this signing is going to be the right one but if we'd brought back Bree instead it would have felt like the stodge of the classic back five was on the menu for the rest of the season. Having an erratic, pacy winger/wingback more like Small tells us that we're at least creating the scenario where we can have an attacking outlet on the opposite wing to TC and offer some variation to our play. That's a more exciting thought than potentially getting what we saw against Millwall again every week for the rest of the season10
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Bailey said:
I agree with that FA and I think a Marquee signing or any signing on a permanent in this window is a non starter. We would be stuck with those contracts if relegated and that would hold the club back as it prepares a promotion challenge.ForeverAddickted said:Another reason for signing him on loan, is if we plan for him to be "competition" with Chambers for Left Wing-Back, then it might not make sense getting someone on a perm... Especially with Edwards returning in the summer, and us not knowing which Division we'll be in... An ideal scenario is we're in the Championship, and Edwards comes back, because we know all know who'll be first choice.Gives us a chance to look at Fevrier before assessing the situation properly in the summer. I also imagine its one reason why we potentialy didn't want to waste £1m on Mumba this month for example, when it was that sort of value on someone who is neither being brought in as a "First Teamer" or for "Potential"Given the last three transfer windows, its one approach I'm liking.Summer is the time of year to get permanent deals in, you've got time to do deals and there is less chance to simply purchase an over priced cast off... Maybe one or two loans get brought in at a push, but not to rely on them too much, else our campaign potentially gets derailed if the loans get recalled - January appears the time of year to get loans in, shore up gaps that are needed, and get us to the position in the League table where we need to be.This is the fourth window now, and second in January, which is following the pattern from a year ago.Not sure why anyone expected it to be different.2 -
21 League games for Stockport this season, 14 of those coming off the bench and 2 goals as well0
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Apter could play as an attacking midfielder and I would have liked to see him there however Carey probably surprised a few with his early season form.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
So in reality we should've bought him for 1.5m instead of Tanto and then saved 2m on Apter?Swisdom said:Chuffed with this. He’s actually very decent. Could be any number of reasons why he hasn’t played much at Stockport this season Or he could just be home sick a bit like Rob Apter maybe wants to go back up north. I have had an eye on him for awhile and he is fast and strong and could give us something different.Give him a chance. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the fact there is no option to buy, it’s probably just Stockport keeping their options open. should they get promoted
If he plays well and they don’t go up, he will join us I expect. Sounds to me like he is more suited to playing as a wing back than Apter who is not strong enough.
by the time Carey’s form dipped a bit I expect Apter’s toys had already been launched from the pram (or perhaps he is genuinely homesick).
I don’t think Apter is a lost cause just yet but it may be another Charlie Kirk situation. Nobody knows really. We just have to trust the process and the decision makers5 -
So do you think we will do differently & play him at LWB ? Is NJ a better tactician than Dave Challinor ?Callumcafc said:
There is no truth to the post you’re quoting, just someone trying to get a few LOLs.Croydon said:
What the fuck are we doing hereCafcSteve said:Has been kept out of Stockport’s starting line-up this season by a talent called Tayo Edun.Edun plays LWB and Stockport have never played Fevrier there in two years.
FWIW I think he will share the LWB position with Chambers for the next month or so. Or is Chambers replacement if he breaks down.0 -
Not forgetting that McGrandles can give us a wave as we exchange division's with Lincoln. 👋Valley11 said:Big gamble by NJ
Imagine if Apter and Tanto fire Bolton and Stockport to promotion - and pass us as we go down.Wow.0 -
This guy is right sided isn’t he?golfaddick said:
So do you think we will do differently & play him at LWB ? Is NJ a better tactician than Dave Challinor ?Callumcafc said:
There is no truth to the post you’re quoting, just someone trying to get a few LOLs.Croydon said:
What the fuck are we doing hereCafcSteve said:Has been kept out of Stockport’s starting line-up this season by a talent called Tayo Edun.Edun plays LWB and Stockport have never played Fevrier there in two years.
FWIW I think he will share the LWB position with Chambers for the next month or so. Or is Chambers replacement if he breaks down.0 -
He’s right footed but has played on the leftpaulsturgess said:
This guy is right sided isn’t he?golfaddick said:
So do you think we will do differently & play him at LWB ? Is NJ a better tactician than Dave Challinor ?Callumcafc said:
There is no truth to the post you’re quoting, just someone trying to get a few LOLs.Croydon said:
What the fuck are we doing hereCafcSteve said:Has been kept out of Stockport’s starting line-up this season by a talent called Tayo Edun.Edun plays LWB and Stockport have never played Fevrier there in two years.
FWIW I think he will share the LWB position with Chambers for the next month or so. Or is Chambers replacement if he breaks down.2 -
I think he's left footedBedsaddick said:
He’s right footed but has played on the leftpaulsturgess said:
This guy is right sided isn’t he?golfaddick said:
So do you think we will do differently & play him at LWB ? Is NJ a better tactician than Dave Challinor ?Callumcafc said:
There is no truth to the post you’re quoting, just someone trying to get a few LOLs.Croydon said:
What the fuck are we doing hereCafcSteve said:Has been kept out of Stockport’s starting line-up this season by a talent called Tayo Edun.Edun plays LWB and Stockport have never played Fevrier there in two years.
FWIW I think he will share the LWB position with Chambers for the next month or so. Or is Chambers replacement if he breaks down.2 -
Depends if he gets sent down with Tommy Guitar?charltonbob said:
Is Sandgard jnr our next signingCaptainRobbo said:Does he have a very hard shot?
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Lots of loans which we all know NJ isn't keen on...but it does actually make good sense because (a) we don't yet know which division we'll be in next season, (b) the transfer market is usually less expensive and with more availability in the summer and (c) we can evaulate the loan players, without commitment, to see if any are potentially worth signing. It's all a bit of a risk but, hopefully, we will have enough to keep us up.
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If this was wife swapping, you still get to enjoy a pleasant evening!
As for the business side, it makes sense. Tanto isn't a starter in our team. Fevrier isn't a starter in his team. The value of each player makes no difference as there isn't a sale going through. If we were trading on a perm deal, we'd be sayin that Tanto is a Championship player at a Championship club, and February is a League One player at a League One club. How they are valued is up to the deal makers.
As for the arrangement, we get much needed games into Tanto at a club he's happy to go to, and we get to try out another youngster from half a season and bid for him in the summer if he's any good.
A savvy bit of business.
Is the youngster going to solve our problems, unknown, but it's a lot better than doing the same thing, with the same players, and expecting a change in fortunes.
Tanto isn't working out as intended, so get him playing and his confidence back up and who knows whether we can bring him back in next season revitalised.5 -
We did when we signed Apter and Tanto?killerandflash said:Hard to get excited by someone who effectively has been a L1 squad player this season. When signing players from the division below you in January, generally you'd hope to be prising away one of their top players, someone their fans would be gutted to lose...1 -
I suppose all of those uncertainties are one thingCafcWest said:Lots of loans which we all know NJ isn't keen on...but it does actually make good sense because (a) we don't yet know which division we'll be in next season, (b) the transfer market is usually less expensive and with more availability in the summer and (c) we can evaulate the loan players, without commitment, to see if any are potentially worth signing. It's all a bit of a risk but, hopefully, we will have enough to keep us up.
but also would a more determined ownership go, no, we’re not in the relegation zone and we’re 4 or 5 wins away from survival let’s do the necessary to make sure that happens
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He’s actually left footed but plays on the right.Bedsaddick said:
He’s right footed but has played on the leftpaulsturgess said:
This guy is right sided isn’t he?golfaddick said:
So do you think we will do differently & play him at LWB ? Is NJ a better tactician than Dave Challinor ?Callumcafc said:
There is no truth to the post you’re quoting, just someone trying to get a few LOLs.Croydon said:
What the fuck are we doing hereCafcSteve said:Has been kept out of Stockport’s starting line-up this season by a talent called Tayo Edun.Edun plays LWB and Stockport have never played Fevrier there in two years.
FWIW I think he will share the LWB position with Chambers for the next month or so. Or is Chambers replacement if he breaks down.À la Thierry Small last season4 -
The difference being that Stockport are getting back a player proven in their division, indeed proven for Stockport in their division, whereas we are getting a player who's never played in our division.The Prince-e-Paul said:If this was wife swapping, you still get to enjoy a pleasant evening!
As for the business side, it makes sense. Tanto isn't a starter in our team. Fevrier isn't a starter in his team. The value of each player makes no difference as there isn't a sale going through. If we were trading on a perm deal, we'd be sayin that Tanto is a Championship player at a Championship club, and February is a League One player at a League One club. How they are valued is up to the deal makers.
As for the arrangement, we get much needed games into Tanto at a club he's happy to go to, and we get to try out another youngster from half a season and bid for him in the summer if he's any good.
A savvy bit of business.
Is the youngster going to solve our problems, unknown, but it's a lot better than doing the same thing, with the same players, and expecting a change in fortunes.
Tanto isn't working out as intended, so get him playing and his confidence back up and who knows whether we can bring him back in next season revitalised.
These sort of deals normally occur between 2 clubs at a more similar level.3 -
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I think he shares RWB with Clarke (who will also share RCB with Ramsay) and Chambers plays LWB, with Fevrier and Bell available as LWB alternatives if Chambers did get injured.golfaddick said:
So do you think we will do differently & play him at LWB ? Is NJ a better tactician than Dave Challinor ?Callumcafc said:
There is no truth to the post you’re quoting, just someone trying to get a few LOLs.Croydon said:
What the fuck are we doing hereCafcSteve said:Has been kept out of Stockport’s starting line-up this season by a talent called Tayo Edun.Edun plays LWB and Stockport have never played Fevrier there in two years.
FWIW I think he will share the LWB position with Chambers for the next month or so. Or is Chambers replacement if he breaks down.1 -
Positives and negatives for me. The biggest negative is seeing 2 players we signed for fees in the summer not work out and having to be moved on. It was always going to be a gamble as our approach was buy the perceived top end of league one talent and hope they can make the step up. Depending on your position you could argue neither really got the chance to show us what they can do, particularly Apter for me, less so Tanto (personally I don’t think he did enough in the games he started to warrant a place in the starting XI).
The other negative is that seems everything is being worked out on the fly now and at face value, a predominantly used sub from a league one club coming in won’t set the pulses racing.On the plus side, you could argue Jones and the recruiting team are responding to our abysmal run and trying to do things differently with this chap, and the other arrivals. I think Clarke will be a decent addition, Dykes is a good option as a hold up man at this level and Chambers is at least able to play LWB and a square peg in a square hole.For me they need to get Coady in and if possible get a central midfielder. Chambers, Fevrier and to an extent Coady are all gambles, the first two based on age and stepping up to this level, the latter on the basis he may be a spent force.I can’t say the way this season has panned out re: comings and goings looks like it’s been well thought out, Apter and Tanto are glaring examples of that, then you have to cover signings in Hernandez and Rousillon that for me have been a waste of time. But, injuries have caught us cold and at the very least, it looks like we’re getting some sort of response. Whether that’s the right response, we’ll know come early May. Fingers crossed for this lad. We need him, like Chambers to come in and add something1 -
I’ve no idea of his quality and whether he is good enough for the Championship. Not getting a regular start in L1 for the last two seasons kind of challenges that.
However, it’s clearly a different style of player to what we have. And given bar TC we have the flair and excitement of a non-spread ham sandwich, it is hopefully a welcome addition.10 -
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Whilst we are sending out our summer signings shall we swap Kelman for Ballard?
Or can we drop off Carey somewhere.... Shows how bad our summer recruitment was. What a mess it seems on paper, lets see what happens at Leicester.5 -
Jayden Raymond Fevrier - JRF……almost JRS ergo he must be good…..or something.
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Savvy business for Stockport. They've received £2m for a player and got him back six months later.The Prince-e-Paul said:If this was wife swapping, you still get to enjoy a pleasant evening!
As for the business side, it makes sense. Tanto isn't a starter in our team. Fevrier isn't a starter in his team. The value of each player makes no difference as there isn't a sale going through. If we were trading on a perm deal, we'd be sayin that Tanto is a Championship player at a Championship club, and February is a League One player at a League One club. How they are valued is up to the deal makers.
As for the arrangement, we get much needed games into Tanto at a club he's happy to go to, and we get to try out another youngster from half a season and bid for him in the summer if he's any good.
A savvy bit of business.
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Are his stats on Wyscout as bad as they are on FotMob?Swisdom said:Chuffed with this. He’s actually very decent. Could be any number of reasons why he hasn’t played much at Stockport this season Or he could just be home sick a bit like Rob Apter maybe wants to go back up north. I have had an eye on him for awhile and he is fast and strong and could give us something different.Give him a chance. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the fact there is no option to buy, it’s probably just Stockport keeping their options open. should they get promoted
If he plays well and they don’t go up, he will join us I expect. Sounds to me like he is more suited to playing as a wing back than Apter who is not strong enough.0 -
Loaning players from league one is a special transfer tactic only performed by master negotiators.
Is this another impeccable window I see before me?5 -
Swisdom said:
Apter could play as an attacking midfielder and I would have liked to see him there however Carey probably surprised a few with his early season form.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
So in reality we should've bought him for 1.5m instead of Tanto and then saved 2m on Apter?Swisdom said:Chuffed with this. He’s actually very decent. Could be any number of reasons why he hasn’t played much at Stockport this season Or he could just be home sick a bit like Rob Apter maybe wants to go back up north. I have had an eye on him for awhile and he is fast and strong and could give us something different.Give him a chance. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the fact there is no option to buy, it’s probably just Stockport keeping their options open. should they get promoted
If he plays well and they don’t go up, he will join us I expect. Sounds to me like he is more suited to playing as a wing back than Apter who is not strong enough.
by the time Carey’s form dipped a bit I expect Apter’s toys had already been launched from the pram (or perhaps he is genuinely homesick).
I don’t think Apter is a lost cause just yet but it may be another Charlie Kirk situation. Nobody knows really. We just have to trust the process and the decision makers
Charlie Kirk was one of our worse signings along with Gassan Ahadme whereas Apter has been misused by the Manager.
Half of Jayden Fevrier apps this season has been off the bench for Stockport in League 1; we need him to be oven ready to start at Leicester.6 -
Welcome Jayden Ferrier Estate.7
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It’s a bizarre situation where you say that in comparison to our other recent signings, at least he’s played football in the last 9 months!6
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We don't though, we have Clarke and Chambers. I think Fevrier has been bought to come off the bench when we're chasing games. Left footed and quick. Direct from what I remember of him. I think he's come in to be our sub on the right flank until he shows he can outperform Clarke (which I doubt).soapboxsam said:Swisdom said:
Apter could play as an attacking midfielder and I would have liked to see him there however Carey probably surprised a few with his early season form.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
So in reality we should've bought him for 1.5m instead of Tanto and then saved 2m on Apter?Swisdom said:Chuffed with this. He’s actually very decent. Could be any number of reasons why he hasn’t played much at Stockport this season Or he could just be home sick a bit like Rob Apter maybe wants to go back up north. I have had an eye on him for awhile and he is fast and strong and could give us something different.Give him a chance. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the fact there is no option to buy, it’s probably just Stockport keeping their options open. should they get promoted
If he plays well and they don’t go up, he will join us I expect. Sounds to me like he is more suited to playing as a wing back than Apter who is not strong enough.
by the time Carey’s form dipped a bit I expect Apter’s toys had already been launched from the pram (or perhaps he is genuinely homesick).
I don’t think Apter is a lost cause just yet but it may be another Charlie Kirk situation. Nobody knows really. We just have to trust the process and the decision makers
Charlie Kirk was one of our worse signings along with Gassan Ahadme whereas Apter has been misused by the Manager.
Half of Jayden Fevrier apps this season has been off the bench for Stockport in League 1; we need him to be oven ready to start at Leicester.2 -
I know a lot of our players this season were signed with the future in mind.
I just didn't realise we were planning for the National League South.4
