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Micah Mbick - 20/1/2026 The Athletic reporting Brighton have had 2 bids for him rejected (p12)

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  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,193
    Apparently Mbick is fuming it didn’t go through and sounds like we’ve got the best end of it with him being out on loan. Apparently it got up to 5m but Brighton pulled out as they now see many clubs see it’s Brighton and are wanting more and they felt like even going anywhere north of 5m we’d want anywhere from 7m. The summer could be interesting as even if we’re in the championship he could be gone. 
    He's only 19 and he couldn't have played for any other club this season anyway. 

    He needs to understand that he's under contract and we don't need to sell so we're not going to bend over. Just needs to get his head down, carry on performing and if he really does want away i'm sure he'll get his move. 
    Or just a sign a new improved contract with us with some kind of agreed release clause which protects all parties?
  • You'd be amazed what Brighton pay their Academy players. Last year I was told that an 18 year old Brighton Academy goalkeeper nowhere near the first team was on £12k a week. The sums are truly eye watering.
  • fenaddick said:
    Apparently Mbick is fuming it didn’t go through and sounds like we’ve got the best end of it with him being out on loan. Apparently it got up to 5m but Brighton pulled out as they now see many clubs see it’s Brighton and are wanting more and they felt like even going anywhere north of 5m we’d want anywhere from 7m. The summer could be interesting as even if we’re in the championship he could be gone. 
    But we can now say “we got offered 5m in January so that’s the very minimum we’ll pick up the phone for”
    Depends how strong player power is come the summer. If he does well the rest of the season and then it’s not just Brighton who want him he could refuse to play. That’s why Brighton think we’ve got away with him being on loan as in that situation if he was with us he’d refuse to play and could do in the summer. Then at what point who has more power? Also if we’re in league 1 that might mean we sell him for less than 5m. 
    Not doubting you for a second but this sounds very much like a Brighton perspective on the situation.

    How long is he contracted for? Does he want a career in the pro game? Then he’ll get his head down and play good football and he’ll get his move when the deal is right for Charlton Athletic.

    That is if he’s actually upset or it’s just the Brighton end assuming he’s upset.
    I mean he didn’t follow on Brighton twitter for the fun of it on deadline day….
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,450
    fenaddick said:
    Apparently Mbick is fuming it didn’t go through and sounds like we’ve got the best end of it with him being out on loan. Apparently it got up to 5m but Brighton pulled out as they now see many clubs see it’s Brighton and are wanting more and they felt like even going anywhere north of 5m we’d want anywhere from 7m. The summer could be interesting as even if we’re in the championship he could be gone. 
    But we can now say “we got offered 5m in January so that’s the very minimum we’ll pick up the phone for”
    Depends how strong player power is come the summer. If he does well the rest of the season and then it’s not just Brighton who want him he could refuse to play. That’s why Brighton think we’ve got away with him being on loan as in that situation if he was with us he’d refuse to play and could do in the summer. Then at what point who has more power? Also if we’re in league 1 that might mean we sell him for less than 5m. 
    Not doubting you for a second but this sounds very much like a Brighton perspective on the situation.

    How long is he contracted for? Does he want a career in the pro game? Then he’ll get his head down and play good football and he’ll get his move when the deal is right for Charlton Athletic.

    That is if he’s actually upset or it’s just the Brighton end assuming he’s upset.
    I mean he didn’t follow on Brighton twitter for the fun of it on deadline day….
    And how did that work out? 
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Apparently Mbick is fuming it didn’t go through and sounds like we’ve got the best end of it with him being out on loan. Apparently it got up to 5m but Brighton pulled out as they now see many clubs see it’s Brighton and are wanting more and they felt like even going anywhere north of 5m we’d want anywhere from 7m. The summer could be interesting as even if we’re in the championship he could be gone. 
    But we can now say “we got offered 5m in January so that’s the very minimum we’ll pick up the phone for”
    Depends how strong player power is come the summer. If he does well the rest of the season and then it’s not just Brighton who want him he could refuse to play. That’s why Brighton think we’ve got away with him being on loan as in that situation if he was with us he’d refuse to play and could do in the summer. Then at what point who has more power? Also if we’re in league 1 that might mean we sell him for less than 5m. 
    Not doubting you for a second but this sounds very much like a Brighton perspective on the situation.

    How long is he contracted for? Does he want a career in the pro game? Then he’ll get his head down and play good football and he’ll get his move when the deal is right for Charlton Athletic.

    That is if he’s actually upset or it’s just the Brighton end assuming he’s upset.
    I mean he didn’t follow on Brighton twitter for the fun of it on deadline day….
    And how did that work out? 
    ? I’m just saying he clearly was highlighting his frustration and I was replying to a comment that it’s all from brightons end….Peoples comments about him playing for us in a championship next year etc is all well and good and I really do hope he does stay for us for years to come. However, Brighton or another prem team might have him next year in their first team squad and we will all question why he never played for us in the championship this season. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,450
    I know the money is different and they are assets but ultimately footballers are humans too. He is allowed to be disappointed a move didn't work out, that doesn't mean he throws his toys out the pram. Like I said earlier in the thread, Samson Tovide looked set to move on January Deadline Day for the second year in a row and didn't. He made an instagram post that day which Lisbie commented on because he also didn't get his move. Colchester fans were in uproar about their supposed attitude and problems. How did Tovide respond? He got on with it and got an assist. What did he do in his first game after last years failed move here? He scored. That's what good pro's do and I'm sure Mbick will be the same once he's got over the disappointment 
  • Apparently Mbick is fuming it didn’t go through and sounds like we’ve got the best end of it with him being out on loan. Apparently it got up to 5m but Brighton pulled out as they now see many clubs see it’s Brighton and are wanting more and they felt like even going anywhere north of 5m we’d want anywhere from 7m. The summer could be interesting as even if we’re in the championship he could be gone. 
    He's only 19 and he couldn't have played for any other club this season anyway. 

    He needs to understand that he's under contract and we don't need to sell so we're not going to bend over. Just needs to get his head down, carry on performing and if he really does want away i'm sure he'll get his move. 
    Or just a sign a new improved contract with us with some kind of agreed release clause which protects all parties?
    Do we need him to sign a new contract though, he's already signed until 2028 and we have a year option after that. Plus an improved contract offer is likely to be nowhere near what Brighton or another PL can offer him anyway.

    A release clause is not likely to protect us because if he does well for us he's potentially worth 10m+, but you can bet your life his agent is not going to agree to him signing a contract with a release clause that high. 

    We only need to bend over and insert a release clause if we're desperate for him to sign something (like we did with Gomez). With a potential 3 years left, we are far from desperate.
  • fenaddick said:
    I know the money is different and they are assets but ultimately footballers are humans too. He is allowed to be disappointed a move didn't work out, that doesn't mean he throws his toys out the pram. Like I said earlier in the thread, Samson Tovide looked set to move on January Deadline Day for the second year in a row and didn't. He made an instagram post that day which Lisbie commented on because he also didn't get his move. Colchester fans were in uproar about their supposed attitude and problems. How did Tovide respond? He got on with it and got an assist. What did he do in his first game after last years failed move here? He scored. That's what good pro's do and I'm sure Mbick will be the same once he's got over the disappointment 
    Isn’t Mbick injured? I know it’s ironically around the same time of brightons interest but didn’t he come off halfway through a game injured? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,450
    fenaddick said:
    I know the money is different and they are assets but ultimately footballers are humans too. He is allowed to be disappointed a move didn't work out, that doesn't mean he throws his toys out the pram. Like I said earlier in the thread, Samson Tovide looked set to move on January Deadline Day for the second year in a row and didn't. He made an instagram post that day which Lisbie commented on because he also didn't get his move. Colchester fans were in uproar about their supposed attitude and problems. How did Tovide respond? He got on with it and got an assist. What did he do in his first game after last years failed move here? He scored. That's what good pro's do and I'm sure Mbick will be the same once he's got over the disappointment 
    Isn’t Mbick injured? I know it’s ironically around the same time of brightons interest but didn’t he come off halfway through a game injured? 
    Yes he has a hip injury, Tovide had an injury at the end of the window last year too
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,852
    edited February 10
    Obviously it would be good if Mbick progresses well and goes on to be a success with us, but for clubs like Charlton though it’s walking a tightrope. Balancing his potential against cashing in on that ultimate unknown. Is he worth more now when that potential is just that or waiting a year or two when he’s either better or made no real progress. I’ll be honest and say I don’t know enough about the lad to offer much of an opinion but there will be people at the club who do. It would appear that we have rejected two offers from Brighton but in all honesty that doesn’t tell us too much. Were they cheeky speculative bids or bids that fell shy of our valuation. He’s injured at present isn’t he ? How long is he out for ? I’m guessing he’ll return after his loan and then get a loan next season hopefully in league one if we’re not there and the speculation will start again next January. Regardless. I’d expect his agent to be banging on Jones door demanding an improved contract. Can’t blame the lad for having his head turned by what Brighton would offer him.

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,547
    Obviously it would be good if Mbick progresses well and goes on to be a success with us, but for clubs like Charlton though it’s walking a tightrope. Balancing his potential against cashing in on that ultimate unknown. Is he worth more now when that potential is just that or waiting a year or two when he’s either better or made no real progress. I’ll be honest and say I don’t know enough about the lad to offer much of an opinion but there will be people at the club who do. It would appear that we have rejected two offers from Brighton but in all honesty that doesn’t tell us too much. Were they cheeky speculative bids or bids that fell shy of our valuation. He’s injured at present isn’t he ? How long is he out for ? I’m guessing he’ll return after his loan and then get a loan next season hopefully in league one if we’re not there and the speculation will start again next January. Regardless. I’d expect his agent to be banging on Jones door demanding an improved contract. Can’t blame the lad for having his head turned by what Brighton would offer him.
    He only signed a new deal last summer, so not sure we’ll be offering another one. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out, I’d like to see him be part of our squad next season if he’s still here.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,450
    Scoham said:
    Obviously it would be good if Mbick progresses well and goes on to be a success with us, but for clubs like Charlton though it’s walking a tightrope. Balancing his potential against cashing in on that ultimate unknown. Is he worth more now when that potential is just that or waiting a year or two when he’s either better or made no real progress. I’ll be honest and say I don’t know enough about the lad to offer much of an opinion but there will be people at the club who do. It would appear that we have rejected two offers from Brighton but in all honesty that doesn’t tell us too much. Were they cheeky speculative bids or bids that fell shy of our valuation. He’s injured at present isn’t he ? How long is he out for ? I’m guessing he’ll return after his loan and then get a loan next season hopefully in league one if we’re not there and the speculation will start again next January. Regardless. I’d expect his agent to be banging on Jones door demanding an improved contract. Can’t blame the lad for having his head turned by what Brighton would offer him.
    He only signed a new deal last summer, so not sure we’ll be offering another one. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out, I’d like to see him be part of our squad next season if he’s still here.
    Wouldn't be surprised if he did get a new deal here. Asiimwe signed a deal in December 2023 and then this summer before going out on loan. 
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,034
    edited February 10
    Speaking personally I would much rather have Kanu and Mbick around the place next season than Kelman and Ahadme.
    They didn’t cost big money.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,687
    edited February 10
    I doubt he is fuming.

    If he is he should probably take a moment to think about how Charlton picked him up as a kid, gave him a free footballing education paid for by us, gave him a long term contract he was no doubt delighted to sign, put him in the first team squad and even bought him on when playing at Wembley.  We have looked after him superbly.

    I get he may well be disappointed at not getting the immediate riches that Brighton would have offered him.

    He seems like a good egg and I expect he will soon be back to playing well and banging them in at Colchester.

    I hope he comes back to us in the summer and plays for us in the Championship then gets sold for serious money and funds our next step in development.
    If Brighton are upset they are getting asked for more money because they are so rich, they probably need to get over themselves or massively reduce the sums they sell their players to Chelsea for just because Chelsea are richer!
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,508
    edited February 10
    When this rumour was initially posted on here, there was someone close with the recruitment team at Brighton, and the team were very confident it was a done deal (think that was after the second bid). 

    I think it's great that we pushed back and said you've undervalued him, or not offered good enough add-ons. 

    Too many premier league clubs take advantage of EFL clubs when buying players or academy players. Great that we decided the move was not right for us. It's tough if Brighton and Mbick are fuming. 

    If they believe in him so much, they will bid again in the summer with a fee and add-ons which we are happy with. Maybe it won't happen, but I hope to see him play games for our first team in the future. 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,192
    The way Brighton are going we could be in the same league next season
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,875
    jose said:
    Speaking personally I would much rather have Kanu and Mbick around the place next season than Kelman and Ahadme.
    They didn’t cost big money.
    Mbick over Ahadme absolutely. But I’ve seen nothing to suggest Kanu is a stronger player than Kelman (The golden boot in league one last season and getting better every game before his injury). 
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,034
    RC_CAFC said:
    jose said:
    Speaking personally I would much rather have Kanu and Mbick around the place next season than Kelman and Ahadme.
    They didn’t cost big money.
    Mbick over Ahadme absolutely. But I’ve seen nothing to suggest Kanu is a stronger player than Kelman (The golden boot in league one last season and getting better every game before his injury). 
    Yes I get your point, particularly regarding injury, but I kind of expect more from Kelman because of the fee we paid.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,508
    jose said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    jose said:
    Speaking personally I would much rather have Kanu and Mbick around the place next season than Kelman and Ahadme.
    They didn’t cost big money.
    Mbick over Ahadme absolutely. But I’ve seen nothing to suggest Kanu is a stronger player than Kelman (The golden boot in league one last season and getting better every game before his injury). 
    Yes I get your point, particularly regarding injury, but I kind of expect more from Kelman because of the fee we paid.
    I think that shows how much we had to learn as fans upon promotion. £3m felt huge for us to spend on one player. But in relation to most other strikers in the Championship, it's nothing. Other clubs spend more than that on there substitute strikers.

    Kelman is 4 goals in 22 games. If he can finish the last 16 games with another 4 goals, then I don't think we can be disappointed. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,197
    There's lots of hearsay on this thread. We don't know how Mbick really feels, and we don't know what Brighton actually offered

    This is an unusual situation, as usually our transfer tussles involve players actually in our first team, where if he rejects the offer we have a disgruntled player, potentially now underperforming and maybe being a negative influence on the training ground. 

    That doesn't apply in this case, as he's out on loan, and even next season might still be out on loan. And he's under contract as well, so we have a lot of bargaining power here.

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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,406
    I doubt he’s fuming. It‘s a word tabloid journalists love to use, usually when someone is a lot less pissed off than they hoped. 

    Either way I have to eat a bit of humble pie in front of Jim Rodwell, what with Chambers looking like he may actually really have been our first choice😀 Looks a far better window than I had dared hope for.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,302
    It makes sense why Mbick would be annoyed. He gets a big pay rise at Brighton he still finishes the season at Colchester and realistically he can always be loaned out again to a team in the exact same league as us or a league we were going to send him to. 

    That being said couldn’t care less if he’s unhappy he’s our player and he stays our player until somehow coughs up the money. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,547
    edited February 18
    https://x.com/gabsutton/status/2024097678896800176

    Mentioned in one game the opposition started 3 big CBs and Mbick bullied all of them.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,588
    Still out injured it appears. Shame for him. 
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 707
    Apparently Mbick is fuming it didn’t go through and sounds like we’ve got the best end of it with him being out on loan. Apparently it got up to 5m but Brighton pulled out as they now see many clubs see it’s Brighton and are wanting more and they felt like even going anywhere north of 5m we’d want anywhere from 7m. The summer could be interesting as even if we’re in the championship he could be gone. 
    He's only 19 and he couldn't have played for any other club this season anyway. 

    He needs to understand that he's under contract and we don't need to sell so we're not going to bend over. Just needs to get his head down, carry on performing and if he really does want away i'm sure he'll get his move. 
    Or just a sign a new improved contract with us with some kind of agreed release clause which protects all parties?
    Do we need him to sign a new contract though, he's already signed until 2028 and we have a year option after that. Plus an improved contract offer is likely to be nowhere near what Brighton or another PL can offer him anyway.

    A release clause is not likely to protect us because if he does well for us he's potentially worth 10m+, but you can bet your life his agent is not going to agree to him signing a contract with a release clause that high. 

    We only need to bend over and insert a release clause if we're desperate for him to sign something (like we did with Gomez). With a potential 3 years left, we are far from desperate.
    I'm desperate but i've never thought to try this. How does this work in practice please. PM me. 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,248
    Kips said:
    Apparently Mbick is fuming it didn’t go through and sounds like we’ve got the best end of it with him being out on loan. Apparently it got up to 5m but Brighton pulled out as they now see many clubs see it’s Brighton and are wanting more and they felt like even going anywhere north of 5m we’d want anywhere from 7m. The summer could be interesting as even if we’re in the championship he could be gone. 
    He's only 19 and he couldn't have played for any other club this season anyway. 

    He needs to understand that he's under contract and we don't need to sell so we're not going to bend over. Just needs to get his head down, carry on performing and if he really does want away i'm sure he'll get his move. 
    Or just a sign a new improved contract with us with some kind of agreed release clause which protects all parties?
    Do we need him to sign a new contract though, he's already signed until 2028 and we have a year option after that. Plus an improved contract offer is likely to be nowhere near what Brighton or another PL can offer him anyway.

    A release clause is not likely to protect us because if he does well for us he's potentially worth 10m+, but you can bet your life his agent is not going to agree to him signing a contract with a release clause that high. 

    We only need to bend over and insert a release clause if we're desperate for him to sign something (like we did with Gomez). With a potential 3 years left, we are far from desperate.
    I'm desperate but i've never thought to try this. How does this work in practice please. PM me. 
    It's much easier if the release clause is rolled up 

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,622
    IdleHans said:
    Kips said:
    Apparently Mbick is fuming it didn’t go through and sounds like we’ve got the best end of it with him being out on loan. Apparently it got up to 5m but Brighton pulled out as they now see many clubs see it’s Brighton and are wanting more and they felt like even going anywhere north of 5m we’d want anywhere from 7m. The summer could be interesting as even if we’re in the championship he could be gone. 
    He's only 19 and he couldn't have played for any other club this season anyway. 

    He needs to understand that he's under contract and we don't need to sell so we're not going to bend over. Just needs to get his head down, carry on performing and if he really does want away i'm sure he'll get his move. 
    Or just a sign a new improved contract with us with some kind of agreed release clause which protects all parties?
    Do we need him to sign a new contract though, he's already signed until 2028 and we have a year option after that. Plus an improved contract offer is likely to be nowhere near what Brighton or another PL can offer him anyway.

    A release clause is not likely to protect us because if he does well for us he's potentially worth 10m+, but you can bet your life his agent is not going to agree to him signing a contract with a release clause that high. 

    We only need to bend over and insert a release clause if we're desperate for him to sign something (like we did with Gomez). With a potential 3 years left, we are far from desperate.
    I'm desperate but i've never thought to try this. How does this work in practice please. PM me. 
    It's much easier if the release clause is rolled up 

    With a pink ribbon and sealed with some wax