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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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Not sure if you watch them or not but his pre match press conferences in particular this season have completely bucked that narrative. He’s been calm, collected, praising others without praising himself and criticising himself when things go wrong. He’s like a completely different person to the NJ we see on the sidelinesthenewbie said:
I do think he is quite a hard person to like yes. He is very intense and doesn't seem to have any kind of an off switch, plus the absolute self-belief he has is hard to distinguish from arrogance.ShootersHillGuru said:
Is he unlikeable ? I think he comes across really well in his interviews. Definitely think he has a connection with Charlton over and above his salary. Supportive of his players. Modest in victory and honest in defeat. Shows fan like passion in the heat of battle. Bit looney but who cares. Looney can be good.oohaahmortimer said:i think he's done beyond brilliant in turning it around but he's still a real unlikeable prick , which doesn't matter one jot while establishing ourselves in the Championship.
Has he got what it takes to take us to the next level and promotion to the Prem , not sure he's ever done the job before but the here and now has been perfect , so far
Don't play Bell in an unwinnable cup tie v Chelsea though next time , it's not rocket science
All of which does make him a great manager I am sure, I have nothing but admiration for his abilities but I would not describe him as someone I like on a personal level at all - which is by the least important factor in a manager anyway.8 -
I am all in on Jones, but that does not mean he is immune to criticism or gets everything right. Putting aside any questions over his likeability, I did worry we were leaving it late with the subs yesterday; I would prefer him to be more proactive with subs rather than letting the game to change before we do.
Perhaps Jones let it play out because the bench wasn't strong enough, or he didn't trust a sub to come on and get up to speed with the pace of the game. Maybe he just believed in the players on the pitch to get over the line; whatever the reason, he was proven right.1 -
I admit I have not so maybe I am doing him a disservice. I would say though that things like his winding up of the Stoke fans (as amusing and understandable as it was) makes me doubt the leopard has COMPLETELY changed his spots.fenaddick said:
Not sure if you watch them or not but his pre match press conferences in particular this season have completely bucked that narrative. He’s been calm, collected, praising others without praising himself and criticising himself when things go wrong. He’s like a completely different person to the NJ we see on the sidelinesthenewbie said:
I do think he is quite a hard person to like yes. He is very intense and doesn't seem to have any kind of an off switch, plus the absolute self-belief he has is hard to distinguish from arrogance.ShootersHillGuru said:
Is he unlikeable ? I think he comes across really well in his interviews. Definitely think he has a connection with Charlton over and above his salary. Supportive of his players. Modest in victory and honest in defeat. Shows fan like passion in the heat of battle. Bit looney but who cares. Looney can be good.oohaahmortimer said:i think he's done beyond brilliant in turning it around but he's still a real unlikeable prick , which doesn't matter one jot while establishing ourselves in the Championship.
Has he got what it takes to take us to the next level and promotion to the Prem , not sure he's ever done the job before but the here and now has been perfect , so far
Don't play Bell in an unwinnable cup tie v Chelsea though next time , it's not rocket science
All of which does make him a great manager I am sure, I have nothing but admiration for his abilities but I would not describe him as someone I like on a personal level at all - which is by the least important factor in a manager anyway.1 -
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Who brought in the players last month that have made us stronger? Nathan deserves the credit already.JustFloydRoad said:timken said:tactical masterclass tonight from jonesWe wanted it more than them (will share my thoughts in the post match thread), but I am just going to say it was more about the players than Jones tonight.I am not hating on Jones, but I am not getting carried away after playing a team that is mid table and has a cup game (against Premier League opposition) at the weekend.If we beat Southampton (a week on Saturday) I will be more impressed, and give him credit then.Lets not forget about Phil Chapple lads. If your next point is, who brought Phil Chapple back, then I give Nathan credit for that.3 -
FiveSouthbank said:One of only four managers in 40 years to win promotion for us. He is already in our history books, unlike the parade of other small time losers we have had to cope with in the past twenty years.
Now keep us in this division and then consolidate and he will become a legend
Although obviously...a total nutjob.4 -
I was waiting for somebody to post what it was that the Stoke fans were chanting. Cawley and Mendez said they were chanting something that crossed a line and that is why NJ gave such a strong reaction at the end. As such, I assume it was more than being called a w*nk&r or c%nt.
Anybody know what they are referring to?2 -
Alonso got sacked a month ago.crookester said:
Until the next bad run...which happens to every football club except maybe the Real Madrids of the worldcafcnick1992 said:Jonesy haters all gone quiet. I've picked up more sarcastic lols in this thread in 2026 than on any part of the forum for simply stating that NJ is the man and will get us going.
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I think we're still a little short in some like for like areas. In the past few games we've been dominating teams aerially and as the game wears on and you're winning if you can restrict your opposition to head tennis then they aren't creating anything. I think if Leaburn had been available Jones would have brought Dykes off but otherwise there weren't a huge number of changes that were worth making. Fevrier is good to bring on at LWB when you're chasing a goal but he's less of a defender than Chambers, JRC can dribble you into some good positions but he doesn't track and harry and ruin like Doc does. I think he got it about right based on who was available on the bench, he brought TC on to be the difference maker and then Coventry for Carey to put his foot in. It did look like Sichenje was getting readied to come on as well when the whistle went.elbiglad said:I am all in on Jones, but that does not mean he is immune to criticism or gets everything right. Putting aside any questions over his likeability, I did worry we were leaving it late with the subs yesterday; I would rather we be more proactive with subs rather than letting the game to change before we do.
Perhaps Jones let it play out because the bench wasn't strong enough, or he didn't trust a sub to come on and get up to speed with the pace of the game. Maybe he just believed in the players on the pitch to get over the line; whatever the reason, he was proven right.2 -
They were chanting sex offender stuff at him. Truely pathetic and while I think as a manager and leader he should be mature enough to wear the stick that comes his way from opposing fans. On this instance he was perfectly within his rights and if it was me I would have gone a lot further with it.Siv_in_Norfolk said:I was waiting for somebody to post what it was that the Stoke fans were chanting. Cawley and Mendez said they were chanting something that crossed a line and that is why NJ gave such a strong reaction at the end. As such, I assume it was more than being called a w*nk&r or c%nt.
Anybody know what they are referring to?21 -
He can against StokeTheHerminator said:
Many many people on here were calling for our strongest side in the cup game against Chelsea.oohaahmortimer said:i think he's done beyond brilliant in turning it around but he's still a real unlikeable prick , which doesn't matter one jot while establishing ourselves in the Championship.
Has he got what it takes to take us to the next level and promotion to the Prem , not sure he's ever done the job before but the here and now has been perfect , so far
Don't play Bell in an unwinnable cup tie v Chelsea though next time , it's not rocket science
If he hadn't played Bell, people would have complained about it. He did play him and people complained about it.
He literally cannot win.7 -
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Stormed into the away end and started ironing out fellas one-to-one?AFKABartram said:
They were chanting sex offender stuff at him. Truely pathetic and while I think as a manager and leader he should be mature enough to wear the stick that comes his way from opposing fans. On this instance he was perfectly within his rights and if it was me I would have gone a lot further with it.Siv_in_Norfolk said:I was waiting for somebody to post what it was that the Stoke fans were chanting. Cawley and Mendez said they were chanting something that crossed a line and that is why NJ gave such a strong reaction at the end. As such, I assume it was more than being called a w*nk&r or c%nt.
Anybody know what they are referring to?8 -
Off_it said:
Stormed into the away end and started ironing out fellas one-to-one?AFKABartram said:
They were chanting sex offender stuff at him. Truely pathetic and while I think as a manager and leader he should be mature enough to wear the stick that comes his way from opposing fans. On this instance he was perfectly within his rights and if it was me I would have gone a lot further with it.Siv_in_Norfolk said:I was waiting for somebody to post what it was that the Stoke fans were chanting. Cawley and Mendez said they were chanting something that crossed a line and that is why NJ gave such a strong reaction at the end. As such, I assume it was more than being called a w*nk&r or c%nt.
Anybody know what they are referring to?
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That’s called doing an Eric DierOff_it said:
Stormed into the away end and started ironing out fellas one-to-one?AFKABartram said:
They were chanting sex offender stuff at him. Truely pathetic and while I think as a manager and leader he should be mature enough to wear the stick that comes his way from opposing fans. On this instance he was perfectly within his rights and if it was me I would have gone a lot further with it.Siv_in_Norfolk said:I was waiting for somebody to post what it was that the Stoke fans were chanting. Cawley and Mendez said they were chanting something that crossed a line and that is why NJ gave such a strong reaction at the end. As such, I assume it was more than being called a w*nk&r or c%nt.
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Yep, totally agree. Result shows he got it right last night. I think he got it wrong v QPR and we let the game slip away. The reality is that our squad depth isn't quite there compared to other teams but that's to be expected; this means it is harder to chase games when we lack the personnel to come on and have an impact.Garrymanilow said:
I think we're still a little short in some like for like areas. In the past few games we've been dominating teams aerially and as the game wears on and you're winning if you can restrict your opposition to head tennis then they aren't creating anything. I think if Leaburn had been available Jones would have brought Dykes off but otherwise there weren't a huge number of changes that were worth making. Fevrier is good to bring on at LWB when you're chasing a goal but he's less of a defender than Chambers, JRC can dribble you into some good positions but he doesn't track and harry and ruin like Doc does. I think he got it about right based on who was available on the bench, he brought TC on to be the difference maker and then Coventry for Carey to put his foot in. It did look like Sichenje was getting readied to come on as well when the whistle went.elbiglad said:I am all in on Jones, but that does not mean he is immune to criticism or gets everything right. Putting aside any questions over his likeability, I did worry we were leaving it late with the subs yesterday; I would rather we be more proactive with subs rather than letting the game to change before we do.
Perhaps Jones let it play out because the bench wasn't strong enough, or he didn't trust a sub to come on and get up to speed with the pace of the game. Maybe he just believed in the players on the pitch to get over the line; whatever the reason, he was proven right.
Leaburn is a big miss, I said the same in the post match thread. Without him or Dykes in the team we lose any ability to go long. Blackburn away was a prime example of that, once Leaburn went off we ended up penned in for the rest of the game.
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Not one by one, I’d swerve the big ones and the ugly ones who’ve nothing to lose.Off_it said:
Stormed into the away end and started ironing out fellas one-to-one?AFKABartram said:
They were chanting sex offender stuff at him. Truely pathetic and while I think as a manager and leader he should be mature enough to wear the stick that comes his way from opposing fans. On this instance he was perfectly within his rights and if it was me I would have gone a lot further with it.Siv_in_Norfolk said:I was waiting for somebody to post what it was that the Stoke fans were chanting. Cawley and Mendez said they were chanting something that crossed a line and that is why NJ gave such a strong reaction at the end. As such, I assume it was more than being called a w*nk&r or c%nt.
Anybody know what they are referring to?14 -
In your average Stoke away end :AFKABartram said:
Not one by one, I’d swerve the big ones and the ugly ones who’ve nothing to lose.Off_it said:
Stormed into the away end and started ironing out fellas one-to-one?AFKABartram said:
They were chanting sex offender stuff at him. Truely pathetic and while I think as a manager and leader he should be mature enough to wear the stick that comes his way from opposing fans. On this instance he was perfectly within his rights and if it was me I would have gone a lot further with it.Siv_in_Norfolk said:I was waiting for somebody to post what it was that the Stoke fans were chanting. Cawley and Mendez said they were chanting something that crossed a line and that is why NJ gave such a strong reaction at the end. As such, I assume it was more than being called a w*nk&r or c%nt.
Anybody know what they are referring to?
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Ugly - 74.9%
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You've never been to Stoke, that Ugly percentage is way higher, and the liable... maybe a bit lower.Off_it said:
In your average Stoke away end :AFKABartram said:
Not one by one, I’d swerve the big ones and the ugly ones who’ve nothing to lose.Off_it said:
Stormed into the away end and started ironing out fellas one-to-one?AFKABartram said:
They were chanting sex offender stuff at him. Truely pathetic and while I think as a manager and leader he should be mature enough to wear the stick that comes his way from opposing fans. On this instance he was perfectly within his rights and if it was me I would have gone a lot further with it.Siv_in_Norfolk said:I was waiting for somebody to post what it was that the Stoke fans were chanting. Cawley and Mendez said they were chanting something that crossed a line and that is why NJ gave such a strong reaction at the end. As such, I assume it was more than being called a w*nk&r or c%nt.
Anybody know what they are referring to?
Big - 25%
Ugly - 74.9%
Liable to an AFKA smack - 0.1%1 -
As for Nathan Jones telling Stoke fans to F...CK Off and then squaring up to Shawcross I absolutely love it. MY FAVOURITE CHARLTON MANAGER EVER by a country mile.1
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Did he? Didn’t see that.EastbourneAddick said:As for Nathan Jones telling Stoke fans to F...CK Off and then squaring up to Shawcross I absolutely love it. MY FAVOURITE CHARLTON MANAGER EVER by a country mile.0 -
Good griefEastbourneAddick said:As for Nathan Jones telling Stoke fans to F...CK Off and then squaring up to Shawcross I absolutely love it. MY FAVOURITE CHARLTON MANAGER EVER by a country mile.3 -
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Shame. He always speaks highly of you...thenewbie said:
I do think he is quite a hard person to like yes. He is very intense and doesn't seem to have any kind of an off switch, plus the absolute self-belief he has is hard to distinguish from arrogance.ShootersHillGuru said:
Is he unlikeable ? I think he comes across really well in his interviews. Definitely think he has a connection with Charlton over and above his salary. Supportive of his players. Modest in victory and honest in defeat. Shows fan like passion in the heat of battle. Bit looney but who cares. Looney can be good.oohaahmortimer said:i think he's done beyond brilliant in turning it around but he's still a real unlikeable prick , which doesn't matter one jot while establishing ourselves in the Championship.
Has he got what it takes to take us to the next level and promotion to the Prem , not sure he's ever done the job before but the here and now has been perfect , so far
Don't play Bell in an unwinnable cup tie v Chelsea though next time , it's not rocket science
All of which does make him a great manager I am sure, I have nothing but admiration for his abilities but I would not describe him as someone I like on a personal level at all - which is by the least important factor in a manager anyway.1 -
JustFloydRoad said:timken said:tactical masterclass tonight from jonesWe wanted it more than them (will share my thoughts in the post match thread), but I am just going to say it was more about the players than Jones tonight.I am not hating on Jones, but I am not getting carried away after playing a team that is mid table and has a cup game (against Premier League opposition) at the weekend.If we beat Southampton (a week on Saturday) I will be more impressed, and give him credit then.
It’s an age old truth in this game that a manager can drill the squad all week, hand-pick the 11, and lay out the perfect blueprint, but once that whistle blows, the manager is at the mercy of the men on the pitch. All too often lately, the players simply haven’t shown up.
Whether Jones tries the "hairdryer treatment," a supportive arm around the shoulder, or a dose of pure optimism, his influence ends at the touchline. Once they cross that white line, the responsibility shifts.
Sure, Jones hasn't been perfect, he’s held his hands up for a few questionable selections and tactical misses, but when you’re dealing with a group whose heads drop the moment things go south, how much can any manager actually do? Personally, I still back him.
There isn’t anyone in our price bracket that I’d trust more to force a turnaround at the back end of the season.5 -
Ha ha A.I says it better than I:
It’s an old cliché, but it rings true: a manager can prep them until he’s blue in the face, pick the best XI available, and set the tactics, but he can’t run onto the pitch for them. All too often lately, the players just aren’t showing up.
We’ve seen Jones try everything. He’s gone from the "hairdryer treatment" to being their biggest cheerleader, but once that whistle blows at The Valley, it’s on the players to do the job. Jones would be the first to admit he’s got a few selections and tactical tweaks wrong recently, but when you’re dealing with a group whose heads seem to drop the second we concede, how much can any manager actually do?
For me, there’s no one better than Nathan Jones at finding a tune out of a struggling squad and dragging them back into form for the business end of a season. He’s done it before, and he’s the right man to do it now. We need to stop looking at the dugout and start looking at the shift the players are putting in.
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There was a clear difference in effort from both teams yesterday I thought. We were 100% committed, went in for every tackle and chased every ball. It is what got us over the line.6
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It was clear within the first few minutes that they weren't as up for it as most teams.cafcnick1992 said:There was a clear difference in effort from both teams yesterday I thought. We were 100% committed, went in for every tackle and chased every ball. It is what got us over the line.1 -
Keep backing Nathan Jones. We have had a hell of a lot worse than him and we won’t get much better. I think he’s a great character he wears his heart on his sleeve he substitutes In an intelligent way which often works and sometimes doesn’t. As time goes on these players coming from league one will be seasoned championship players all will have left the team and squad. What I want is to be a regular championship site and in five or six years time, start to believe that we could get promoted because that’s what keeps dreams alive and everyone buzzing. Nathan Jones keeps proving The doubters wrong And I loved it that we beat Stoke who were totally disrespecting him last night.5
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He's not fired up right but I love the guy. Absolute fruitloop1
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