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Championship Games 25/26
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Rothko said:Win the home games this month and we're pretty much there I reckon, and then you can pick up enough points to be safe by April
Without counting chickens, it would be great to be mathematically safe with a few games to spare so that concrete plans on summer recruitment can kick in early.20 -
And players like Fullah and Sichenje can get decent minutes in a low pressure environmentbobmunro said:Rothko said:Win the home games this month and we're pretty much there I reckon, and then you can pick up enough points to be safe by April
Without counting chickens, it would be great to be mathematically safe with a few games to spare so that concrete plans on summer recruitment can kick in early.22 -
Having a big weekend down in Swansea last game of the season, really hope the game doesn't decide our fate!bobmunro said:Rothko said:Win the home games this month and we're pretty much there I reckon, and then you can pick up enough points to be safe by April
Without counting chickens, it would be great to be mathematically safe with a few games to spare so that concrete plans on summer recruitment can kick in early.0 -
Pelling1993 said:
Having a big weekend down in Swansea last game of the season, really hope the game doesn't decide our fate!bobmunro said:Rothko said:Win the home games this month and we're pretty much there I reckon, and then you can pick up enough points to be safe by April
Without counting chickens, it would be great to be mathematically safe with a few games to spare so that concrete plans on summer recruitment can kick in early.
Don't say that - not sure my old ticker could take it.2 -
I always think that in such a tight league, it's getting wins that's crucial. Grinding out draws is better than nothing, but it won't transform your season. The teams below us (other than Pompey) are really struggling for wins at the moment, whereas we have 3 in the last 6 games.
7 away from the bottom 3 and only 8 from the playoffs. Not safe yet, but we don't look like a bottom 3 side.7 -
Didn’t someone post that Pompey have 10FishCostaFortune said:
With Stoke having 10 senior players out, and QPR with something similar it goes to show that our injury issues are not isolated.fenaddick said:Pompey new signing Keshi Anderson has been sidelined for 6-8 weeks with a hamstring injury. Think their injury list is now up to 10 players
I guess when you have people out, and have to push the fit players more, it can just become self deprecating for the team.
players on the injury list ?
maybe we will be looking back and reflecting every team had the same problem but that our injuries came at the right time of the season for us to do something about them, get most of them back for the business end of the season and bring in some quality players in the January window.4 -
It’s remarkable when you consider we only have 3/4 nowletthegoodtimesroll said:
Didn’t someone post that Pompey have 10FishCostaFortune said:
With Stoke having 10 senior players out, and QPR with something similar it goes to show that our injury issues are not isolated.fenaddick said:Pompey new signing Keshi Anderson has been sidelined for 6-8 weeks with a hamstring injury. Think their injury list is now up to 10 players
I guess when you have people out, and have to push the fit players more, it can just become self deprecating for the team.
players on the injury list ?
maybe we will be looking back and reflecting every team had the same problem but that our injuries came at the right time of the season for us to do something about them, get most of them back for the business end of the season and bring in some quality players in the January window.1 -
Be nice to get to the last few games of the season and be able to relax and actually enjoy the game, without worrying about them's around you...🙏7
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Nah......it will all be done & dusted by then.Pelling1993 said:
Having a big weekend down in Swansea last game of the season, really hope the game doesn't decide our fate!bobmunro said:Rothko said:Win the home games this month and we're pretty much there I reckon, and then you can pick up enough points to be safe by April
Without counting chickens, it would be great to be mathematically safe with a few games to spare so that concrete plans on summer recruitment can kick in early.
Oxford have 28 points. To get to 50 they need another 22 points - so 6 wins & 4 draws. They have another 14 games to go. No way are they only losing 4 out of their last 14.
Blackburn have 32 points so need another 18. So lets say 5 wins & 3 draws. With 15 games to go they can only lose 7 more. Obviously doable but not likely as currently they are averaging around a point a game.
50 points will be the benchmark to reach. 52 and definitely safe I say.3 -
Oxford are basically down I think, unless they go on a truly spectacular run of form, and Wednesday are obviously doomed. There's only one spot left up to be decided but Blackburn, Leicester and West Brom are all hitting the skids at once, plus Portsmouth just can't haul themselves out of danger either.golfaddick said:
Nah......it will all be done & dusted by then.Pelling1993 said:
Having a big weekend down in Swansea last game of the season, really hope the game doesn't decide our fate!bobmunro said:Rothko said:Win the home games this month and we're pretty much there I reckon, and then you can pick up enough points to be safe by April
Without counting chickens, it would be great to be mathematically safe with a few games to spare so that concrete plans on summer recruitment can kick in early.
Oxford have 28 points. To get to 50 they need another 22 points - so 6 wins & 4 draws. They have another 14 games to go. No way are they only losing 4 out of their last 14.
Blackburn have 32 points so need another 18. So lets say 5 wins & 3 draws. With 15 games to go they can only lose 7 more. Obviously doable but not likely as currently they are averaging around a point a game.
50 points will be the benchmark to reach. 52 and definitely safe I say.
Get another 6 points or so this month and we really should be on the verge of safety if not mathematically so.1 -
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Oxford definitely still have a realistic chance of survival.
I can't see them overtaking us, but they're only 4 points behind Leicester and Blackburn, 5 behind Pompey and 6 behind West Brom.
Sheffield Wednesday is a 99% chance of 3 points for their opposition now. They still have to play Leicester, us, Oxford and West Brom, whereas Blackburn have already played them. Add those 3 points on to the other teams' totals, and it looks grim for Blackburn.3 -
I think Blackburn will be as good as gone regardless of whatever manager they appoint, they're in a complete malaise on and off the field. Then it's perm one of Oxford , West Brom and Pompey for the last spot. Will all come down to who's still got to play who.
Would probably back Pompey to scrap their way to survival over the other 2.0 -
Another reason why having points targets are a better system instead of constantly referencing how many points ahead or behind you are.DamoNorthStand said:We need to keep our feet on the ground and don’t think we are safe for a minute until we mathematically are.
Even the Blackburn forum now saying forget about Charlton …. 7 points clear…. Out of sight.
Dont actually like that ….. need to keep pushing and if we do we will be fine
Keep working towards 50+ and the results of others will take care of themselves.3 -
Callumcafc said:
Another reason why having points targets are a better system instead of constantly referencing how many points ahead or behind you are.DamoNorthStand said:We need to keep our feet on the ground and don’t think we are safe for a minute until we mathematically are.
Even the Blackburn forum now saying forget about Charlton …. 7 points clear…. Out of sight.
Dont actually like that ….. need to keep pushing and if we do we will be fine
Keep working towards 50+ and the results of others will take care of themselves.The points total target is the overall objective, and the referencing of how many points behind or ahead we are against that target is just good practice in checking progress.If the total points total target is let's say 50 then that's, on average, 1.09 points per game. We are currently running at 1.26 points per game so we are ahead of target. On target right now would be around 34 points so we are 5 points ahead of targetIn reality having a total points target and checking progress is one and the same thing. No good setting an overall target if you don't review it until the end of the season - it's too late then!
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In perfect world West Brom & Leicester go down as they won't be as weak next season whereas Blackburn & Oxford would still be strugglers you'd think.12
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Where's Millwall?Callumcafc said:2 -
Hull stayed up on goal difference last season on 48 points.
If there is a charge at the end then it's possible to go down with 50 points but both Oxford and Blackburn will struggle to get to 50.
If Charlton take a point a game until the end of season we finish on 54 but IF CAFC keep the majority of players fit, especially the defensive shape 'post humiliation defeat' which has seen as go 270+ minutes without conceding then high 50's is possible.
In the Championship form table over the last 6 matches Charlton are a respectable 11th with ten points with Leicester just 1 point and WBA 3, Blackburn 4 and Oxford 5 points out of a possible 18.
It's ironic that after the gutless display in the 'Derby' we have suddenly found a better mentality helped by getting Coady and Dykes in who are warriors. Plus Captain Docherty who does lack some skill on the ball but he has been awesome with his commitment over the last 3 games.
We may not play sexy football but we certainly see effort and players forming partnerships again plus hitting 10 wins with 15 matches to go bring more hope than was evident 3 matches ago.
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Pompey at home to Sheff United tomorrow, hopefully they can keep some players on the pitch and get a win.
Don't expect Blackburn to get anything at QPR.
When Millwall win at Wednesday they gonna be 3 points off automatic places 😬1 -
Honestly think Blackburn are screwed.
Don't see them picking up a single point in their next 9 games.
QPR A - Nope
Preston H - Loss to local rivals
Bristol City H - Unlikely to get anything.
Derby A - Might need an abacus to keep score. 🧮
Portsmouth H - Pompey regularly picking up points.
Oxford A - Oxford not great but show a lot more fight than Blackburn.
Millwall A - Easy 2-0 to the scum. 👊
Middlesbrough H - Yeah right, Boro could be Champions by then. 🏆
Birmingham A - Ratboy will have a field day. 🐀
West Brom H - First time they might get something but too late by then. 👇2 -
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fenaddick said:
It’s remarkable when you consider we only have 3/4 nowletthegoodtimesroll said:
Didn’t someone post that Pompey have 10FishCostaFortune said:
With Stoke having 10 senior players out, and QPR with something similar it goes to show that our injury issues are not isolated.fenaddick said:Pompey new signing Keshi Anderson has been sidelined for 6-8 weeks with a hamstring injury. Think their injury list is now up to 10 players
I guess when you have people out, and have to push the fit players more, it can just become self deprecating for the team.
players on the injury list ?
maybe we will be looking back and reflecting every team had the same problem but that our injuries came at the right time of the season for us to do something about them, get most of them back for the business end of the season and bring in some quality players in the January window.
Only a matter of time before other teams start saying we are only beating them because we’ve been lucky with injuries compared to them
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Really really good piece on NTT20 today from George Elek talking about how as an Oxford fan he wonders how they can even compete at this level and coming to terms with being one of those clubs that for a variety of factors will bounce between the bottom of the Champ and the top of League 1.1
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They’re stuck like that and are hoping the new stadium will sort it but I think that’s fanciful. It’s hard to build a fanbase in a place with a relatively transient populationMarcusH26 said:Really really good piece on NTT20 today from George Elek talking about how as an Oxford fan he wonders how they can even compete at this level and coming to terms with being one of those clubs that for a variety of factors will bounce between the bottom of the Champ and the top of League 1.0 -
Most teams will have a period (or two) with a lot of injuries. There are some outliers who get lucky, or some who have particularly bad sports science and medical teams.
But, in reality, most teams will have a similar number of injuries over the course of the season. The unfortunate thing for us was that it coincided with a tough run of fixtures in a short period of time, and that the injuries where to players in similar positions. No team can control which players get injured and obviously that is slightly unlucky, but it is also down to poor squad building; Nathan Jones has admitted that we left ourselves short on the left side himself as we failed to recruit cover in the Summer.
As a newly promoted team we didn't have the depth to get through that period without struggling. However, we now have a comparatively very fit squad for the run in; this has allowed us (NJ) to finally field a settled cohesive defensive unit and gives us enough options in the midfield and up front to field a solid starting XI with some 'game changers' on the bench most weeks. We are not out of the woods but we are in a very strong position.3 -
This is something I've been banging on since the Curbs days when he loved a draw but I used to point out that a streaky 1-0 win followed by a 6-0 lose is 50% better than two hard-fought draws.killerandflash said:I always think that in such a tight league, it's getting wins that's crucial. Grinding out draws is better than nothing, but it won't transform your season. The teams below us (other than Pompey) are really struggling for wins at the moment, whereas we have 3 in the last 6 games.
7 away from the bottom 3 and only 8 from the playoffs. Not safe yet, but we don't look like a bottom 3 side.
In this league if you lost half your matches but won the other half, you'd have got in the play-offs, two of the last three seasons...1 -
Yeah I'm not sure a shiny new stadium fixes all their problems. They'll always struggle for attendances regardless.fenaddick said:
They’re stuck like that and are hoping the new stadium will sort it but I think that’s fanciful. It’s hard to build a fanbase in a place with a relatively transient populationMarcusH26 said:Really really good piece on NTT20 today from George Elek talking about how as an Oxford fan he wonders how they can even compete at this level and coming to terms with being one of those clubs that for a variety of factors will bounce between the bottom of the Champ and the top of League 1.1 -
This league has so many twists and turns to come yet. All it takes is lose a couple and we are looking over our shoulder again big time. Win a couple and we are all but safe.
Likewise Blackburn look dead and buried but could be right back in it within a couple of weeks.7 -
I can see why they're saying that though, 7 points behind us (effectively 8 with goal difference) so they need 3 wins to catch us. They've got 1 win in 10 and that was a narrow 1-0 at home to Sheff Weds.DamoNorthStand said:We need to keep our feet on the ground and don’t think we are safe for a minute until we mathematically are.
Even the Blackburn forum now saying forget about Charlton …. 7 points clear…. Out of sight.
Dont actually like that ….. need to keep pushing and if we do we will be fine3 -
My friend and I have this debate a lot. I am not denying that points-wise winning one game is more valuable than two draws... but... the impact of a loss can be more than just 0 points. Getting pumped by Southampton seemed to set us back dramatically. Going for it late and conceding a la Porsmouth (admittedly a bit of a fluke) was very (very!) tough to take and felt hugely damaging. However, there aren't many better feelings than late equalisers (Hull away) or winners (West Brom, Watford) and the benefit this can have for fans and players is immeasurable.kinveachyaddick said:
This is something I've been banging on since the Curbs days when he loved a draw but I used to point out that a streaky 1-0 win followed by a 6-0 lose is 50% better than two hard-fought draws.killerandflash said:I always think that in such a tight league, it's getting wins that's crucial. Grinding out draws is better than nothing, but it won't transform your season. The teams below us (other than Pompey) are really struggling for wins at the moment, whereas we have 3 in the last 6 games.
7 away from the bottom 3 and only 8 from the playoffs. Not safe yet, but we don't look like a bottom 3 side.
In this league if you lost half your matches but won the other half, you'd have got in the play-offs, two of the last three seasons...
So, I am broadly in favour of going for it more often than not, but context matters. I was a bit nervous against QPR the other night and understood why we naturally sat back. A late goal in that game would've felt like a huge step back for us. Even though we were at home and on the back of a win, a point felt like a big deal. Blackburn away frustrated some, but we were not playing well in the second half and were lucky to be drawing. To throw caution to the wind at that point wouldn't have made sense to me: protect what we have, take the point and accept you weren't quite at it on the day.
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Like the 8 points between us and the playoff positions, 7 points between us and Blackburn isn’t insurmountable in this divisionChris_from_Sidcup said:
I can see why they're saying that though, 7 points behind us (effectively 8 with goal difference) so they need 3 wins to catch us. They've got 1 win in 10 and that was a narrow 1-0 at home to Sheff Weds.DamoNorthStand said:We need to keep our feet on the ground and don’t think we are safe for a minute until we mathematically are.
Even the Blackburn forum now saying forget about Charlton …. 7 points clear…. Out of sight.
Dont actually like that ….. need to keep pushing and if we do we will be fine0
