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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V Portsmouth : Tuesday 17th February 2026 : KO 19:45

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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,222
    Jayajosh said:
    I wonder if we will get a worldly at all this season? 🤷‍♂️
    I mean yeah you can ignore tc against Derby and Carey earlier in the season 
    TC against Derby was a well taken goal but was in no way a 'worldy'
  • I didn't think Portsmouth were bang average, they looked a level above us, with quick incisive passing which we seem to never do.
    They looked well above our level last night and this is a team carrying a lot of injuries. We just lumped the ball up field and our passing was very poor.


  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,908
    WSS said:
    They're not natural positions either. 😉

    They are when I go shopping with my wife.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,773
    Bailey said:
    Nug said:
    Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games. 
    Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well.  Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"
    Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.

    Am I going mad here
    Yes you are going mad... Thankfully you're not the only one... If we stay up, then the question over Jones as Manager should never even be considered
    What about the fact he's lost the dressing room which was an accurate reflection of events as a Light house keeper in Stornaway confirmed it . 
    I thought last night was a clear reflection that he's obviously lost the team again
    In fairness, I don't think anyone would want to claim ownership of last night's shower of shit. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,243
    edited February 18
    thenewbie said:


    The slim consolation is that we still have a bit of daylight between us and the drop, and even if Portsmouth end up catching us, there's other teams even worse. 
    Ah.....that old chestnut 🙄.

    2 months ago Norwich couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Only kept 1 clean sheet all season until we went there.....beat us 1-0 and are now flying. 

    Pompey were in the bottom 3 a month ago. Picked up some points & now just 3 points behind us.

    Blackburn won last weekend.

    Leicester (I'm told) are defensively frail & will be lucky to get to mid 40's points wise. But have players who can score ( and will) and are only in the bottom 3 due to a points deduction - their PPG is almost identical to ours. Better GD and have scored 13 more goals than us.

    WBA are on a bad run but we go there next week and like the Norwich match I expect we will help re-ignite their season. 

    Pah !
  • So the tables are well and truly turned and Pompey are our new bogy side (we even got a point off the Spanners this season). It shows that in this division managers do their homework and set their side up to get results. Of course things may have panned out differently if Clarke had nailed that first minute effort, but from then on Pompey went about attacking our flanks and by passing Doc and Coady.

    Lo and behold, it got better for them when the ref decided to start painting the town yellow and the visitors realised that if they went down holding heads and shins, the man in black would be there flourishing his card. (He calmed down in the second half and didn't fall for the same antics as the players in white tried to buy a couple of reds. Fortunately his new found eagerness to balance things up meant he probably denied Pompey at least one penalty call). 

    NJ set his team up as in the previous three games with Leaburn added to the attack, but the Portsmouth press was very good, and our two wing backs were soon carrying yellows. Cue the return of 'hit and hope' football as our midfield players' limitations were exposed for all the see and Leaburn and Dykes became spectators.

    On another night this could still have been a 0-0 stalemate but their bloke Devlin has obviously been watching Liverpool's Dominik Szoboszlai and his technique of hitting the ball off his laces to create a wicked outward swerve. Doesn't excuse Kaminski's embarrassing cluelessness for the first and the fact that nobody closed the player down to allow him another punt for the third. The penalty appeared to be called by the lino and was harsh but probably right under current laws (and the reason why you see Premier defenders go into all sorts of speed skater stances when facing up to attackers in the box). The decision appeared to get to Bell who was a bit shaky for the rest of the game and we know when he loses his calmness and his high standards drop, then the rest of the side struggle too.

    We kind of made an effort to get back into it and Fevrier made some interesting moves, scored a neat goal and then faded away. TC sparkled for five minutes and lost interest and Coventry did ok. The other subs were too little too late. A shout out to Ramsey who played probably his best game for us this season, going toe to toe with their wide man and driving forwards with the ball on several occasions. For the rest it was a stinker.

    NJ now has to pick them up again and go hunting for points in the remaining February games. That will be quite a challenge.    
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,243
    Woke up just as pissed off. That performance was disgraceful.

    We are still right in the shit. 

    And what’s going on with our pitch, looks awful.
    Match played on it 2 days earlier following heavy rain. 

    It’s ok though as the Women are keeping the WhatsApp group buzzing…
    They should put their toys on silent...🤭
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,027
    Said it at the the start of the season.  No creativity in the team. Was told that wingbacks are there to put crosses into the box. Well they didn't today & the front 2 spent the whole game trying to get their heads onto 50 yard punts from our defenders. Woeful. If that is football then you can stick it. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. 


    Please don’t - you’ve had enough operations on them as it is.

    Seriously though, when watching Charlton now it’s an effort of stamina akin to riding a bike up a hill against driving wind and rain. I watched us last week against Stoke and despite winning I felt that I’d wasted my evening doing something I just don’t enjoy anymore. In contrast I chose to watch Coventry  v Middlesbrough on TV instead this week and enjoyed it very much. 

    I want us to stay up this season and have previously said that I will put up with it to achieve that end. Actually I’ve changed my mind and will just watch Final Score and read about it for as long as NJ is manager. I just don’t want to watch it anymore for the same reasons that I’ve never watched a rugby match. He might be screaming at a fan at the match but I think he’s lucky that anyone goes at all.

    Once he’s earnt his dough keeping us up this season, I’d say as an owner with some dosh ’thanks but no thanks.’ I reckon someone like Olivier Pantaloni at FC Lorient  would cut it as long as he can speak enough English. He’s probably on about 50000euros/month. How much is NJ on for his embarrassing, ugly, shit football?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,465
    If Dykes scores that 1 on 1 in the first couple of mins it’s probably a totally different game 

    tails up etc and full of confidence 
    It was Clarke.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 15,056
    Posting without reading

    As "Charlton" a performance as many predicted.
    Dykes and Miles upo to made us even more one dimensional than usual and completely nullified the midfield.  Despite us having two big buggers up there we weren't dominant aerially and the midfield chased shadows.

    The early bookings killed us because we were playing on a tightrope for the remainder of the game and the Pompey shithousery was on point with that idiot ref buying it every time (even their fans on twitter saying he should be investigated)

    And that's what happens when you set up not-to-lose rather than to take the game to the opposition.

    Really disappointing and undoes a lot, but not all,  of the good work done recently.

    Not expecting much at St Mary's this weekend and starting to look a little more nervously over our shoulders again.




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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,465
    Jayajosh said:
    LenGlover said:
    Typical. Chance to open a gap and we implode. If we narrowly get relegated tonight will be one we regret.
    If we get relegated by 1 point, it’ll be the Portsmouth away result imo.
    Blackburn away. 2-0 up, threw it away.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,422
    edited February 18
    Bailey said:
    Nug said:
    Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games. 
    Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well.  Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"
    Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.

    Am I going mad here
    Yes you are going mad... Thankfully you're not the only one... If we stay up, then the question over Jones as Manager should never even be considered
    What about the fact he's lost the dressing room which was an accurate reflection of events as a Light house keeper in Stornaway confirmed it . 
    What total and utter rubbish, that is absolutely fake news.
    None of the lighthouses in and around Stornoway is manned :wink:

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,625
    Not read a post yet but my verdict is they were by far the better team - more ability, more fight, more presence - we were dogshit powder puff and as usual relied on winning the second ball and knock downs but were outfought for those as well - ref was hideously bad, we were worse - going Southampton Saturday, gonna pretend it’s a trip to the seaside and nothing to do with football - stay away midweek I take it all back - gonna take up self harming next time we have a night game or any game where the oppo might be up for it
  • Jayajosh said:
    LenGlover said:
    Typical. Chance to open a gap and we implode. If we narrowly get relegated tonight will be one we regret.
    If we get relegated by 1 point, it’ll be the Portsmouth away result imo.
    Blackburn away. 2-0 up, threw it away.
    Millwall 1-0; Ramsay gets sent off... So many factors... Its a waste of time looking for one moment
    I think the one example that will always boil my piss, was the fact we needed one goal to survive in 2019/20 and Aneke had that perfectly good goal rule out against Reading which we lost 1-0 - But then who knows what would have transpired even had we equalised.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,422
    Jayajosh said:
    LenGlover said:
    Typical. Chance to open a gap and we implode. If we narrowly get relegated tonight will be one we regret.
    If we get relegated by 1 point, it’ll be the Portsmouth away result imo.
    Blackburn away. 2-0 up, threw it away.
    Millwall 1-0; Ramsay gets sent off... So many factors... Its a waste of time looking for one moment
    I think the one example that will always boil my piss, was the fact we needed one goal to survive in 2019/20 and Aneke had that perfectly good goal rule out against Reading which we lost 1-0 - But then who knows what would have transpired even had we equalised.

    Birmingham injury time equaliser stands out for me as the moment of the 2019/20 season. It still angers me to think about it.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,215
    Is that four assists and one goal for Dykes now?

  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 2,446
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    Next up back to the black kit, I don't know what happened to wearing blue (and before someone says it clashes with their kit, we wore it vs Sheffield United)
  • bobmunro said:
    Jayajosh said:
    LenGlover said:
    Typical. Chance to open a gap and we implode. If we narrowly get relegated tonight will be one we regret.
    If we get relegated by 1 point, it’ll be the Portsmouth away result imo.
    Blackburn away. 2-0 up, threw it away.
    Millwall 1-0; Ramsay gets sent off... So many factors... Its a waste of time looking for one moment
    I think the one example that will always boil my piss, was the fact we needed one goal to survive in 2019/20 and Aneke had that perfectly good goal rule out against Reading which we lost 1-0 - But then who knows what would have transpired even had we equalised.

    Birmingham injury time equaliser stands out for me as the moment of the 2019/20 season. It still angers me to think about it.
    That was more down to the players though, and the likes of Pratley cramping up facing a young Bellingham... the Reading game was inept officiating as they also failed to give a late penalty for the foul on Forster-Caskey despite it being the exact same foul that saw Reading get an early penalty
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,465
    Said it at the the start of the season.  No creativity in the team. Was told that wingbacks are there to put crosses into the box. Well they didn't today & the front 2 spent the whole game trying to get their heads onto 50 yard punts from our defenders. Woeful. If that is football then you can stick it. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes. 


    Please don’t - you’ve had enough operations on them as it is.

    Seriously though, when watching Charlton now it’s an effort of stamina akin to riding a bike up a hill against driving wind and rain. I watched us last week against Stoke and despite winning I felt that I’d wasted my evening doing something I just don’t enjoy anymore. In contrast I chose to thenwatch Coventry  v Middlesbrough on TV instead this week and enjoyed it very much. 

    I want us to stay up this season and have previously said that I will put up with it to achieve that end. Actually I’ve changed my mind and will just watch Final Score and read about it for as long as NJ is manager. I just don’t want to watch it anymore for the same reasons that I’ve never watched a rugby match. He might be screaming at a fan at the match but I think he’s lucky that anyone goes at all.

    Once he’s earnt his dough keeping us up this season, I’d say as an owner with some dosh ’thanks but no thanks.’ I reckon someone like Olivier Pantaloni at FC Lorient  would cut it as long as he can speak enough English. He’s probably on about 50000euros/month. How much is NJ on for his embarrassing, ugly, shit football?
    I assume when you next come back over for a visit you won’t be taking in any games then? Shame NJ gave you and both boys such a shit day out at Wembley last May really.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,602
    edited February 18
    Bailey said:
    Nug said:
    Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games. 
    Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well.  Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"
    Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.

    Am I going mad here
    Yes you are going mad... Thankfully you're not the only one... If we stay up, then the question over Jones as Manager should never even be considered
    What about the fact he's lost the dressing room which was an accurate reflection of events as a Light house keeper in Stornaway confirmed it . 
    I thought last night was a clear reflection that he's obviously lost the team again

    Forgetting that tired old cliché;  the only thing that proved to me was Nathan was out thought by the Pompey manager last night and even though the changes at HT were good we were already 2-0 down and it could've been more.

    Obviously the Ref made it more difficult with our full backs* in jeopardy early on but forget bitting your fingers off, and just think clearly in a match and make changes when they are needed and if that is in the 1st half do it. It's no reflection on Clarke but getting the early booking he had a winger against him and he was inhibited.

    It's Nathan gig and he will keep Charlton up but he was too caution and didn't react quick enough in the 1st half. 

    *Clarke booking was silly by Harry and Chambers was a 50/50 decision. 

    Another tired old cliché?

    We go again.

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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,014
    Someone mentioned mangers doing their research on how to setup against us, does NJ not do any? or is it hoof-ball regardless who we play, surely that's a big managerial shortcoming?
  • Someone mentioned mangers doing their research on how to setup against us, does NJ not do any? or is it hoof-ball regardless who we play, surely that's a big managerial shortcoming?
    No I've got a feeling that Jones just sleeps at the training ground, argues with a few players and then picks the team out a f**king hat
    What an idiotic comment, if Jones doesnt do any of that, explain how we ever win a bloody game of Football
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,014
    Someone mentioned mangers doing their research on how to setup against us, does NJ not do any? or is it hoof-ball regardless who we play, surely that's a big managerial shortcoming?
    No I've got a feeling that Jones just sleeps at the training ground, argues with a few players and then picks the team out a f**king hat
    What an idiotic comment, if Jones doesnt do any of that, explain how we ever win a bloody game of Football
    Chance, luck, take your pick... out of a hat if you like tiger  ;)
  • daveroan
    daveroan Posts: 248
    Jones missed a trick with his subs last night. During the second half he went to a back four. OK with that. BUT why not bring on Sichenje alongside Jones, with Ramsay and Bell as full backs because we lost forward momentum when Chambers went to left back. He could have worked with TC down the left with Dykes providing the knock ons as previous weeks. Thought Fevrier made a difference. Could he have a go alongside Dykes up top? Surely Rankin-Costello needs a run out in midfield alongside Coady,Clarke and a wingback? Think Kaminski has used up his quota of goodwill from his saves so bring Mannion in for  few games. So for WBA I'd go with
    Mannion,  Ramsay, Sichenjie, Jones, Bell;   Clarke Coady, Rankin- Costello, Chambers;  TC and Dykes. Solid defence for a game we must not lose!!!!!!
  • PWR all the comments so apologies if repetitive. Look, staying up is number 1 priority and i get that we will lose minimum 15-20 games in the process if successful. My issue is with our adaptability in playing style and the players that seem to get a free pass into the squad. Last night from 1-0 down and definitely 2-0 you could see we had no idea how to change things up, and no other way of playing. Having 2 lumps up front cannot work by definition as no matter how many flick-ons you get there is no runner post the flick, so possession given up straight away. You could see last night that their goalie is flaky, but how many times did we get into crossing positions in the match to test him? Surely the plan would be get it out wide, through passing not diagonal punts, and try to work a way to cross it in. It was so painful to watch, but the bench was not inspiring either. No Fullah? As we've all said, Berry? Why? Do we need the new Sichenje and Gillesphey? 

    Swift and Adams were made to look like prime Pirlo and Vieira and there was so much space there. Play the players to match or at least nullify, Coady was not the right player last night, but actually what do we have energy wise to match?

    I just felt we were set up not to lose and not to win and it's gutting as Pompey were not that good.

    Onwards and upwards I hope.
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    Next up back to the black kit, I don't know what happened to wearing blue (and before someone says it clashes with their kit, we wore it vs Sheffield United)
    Let’s hope they’ve got more choice than 5XL 🤷‍♂️😄
  • Bailey said:
    Nug said:
    Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games. 
    Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well.  Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"
    Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.

    Am I going mad here
    Yes you are going mad... Thankfully you're not the only one... If we stay up, then the question over Jones as Manager should never even be considered
    What about the fact he's lost the dressing room which was an accurate reflection of events as a Light house keeper in Stornaway confirmed it . 
    I thought last night was a clear reflection that he's obviously lost the team again

    Maybe he should go to Specsavers...

  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,466
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    Next up back to the black kit, I don't know what happened to wearing blue (and before someone says it clashes with their kit, we wore it vs Sheffield United)
    The Onel Hernandez black kit.  Just reminds me of that stupid handball.  Put Soton down for a 4-0 win.  We’re terrible in it 
  • chilham
    chilham Posts: 320
    As an observation from last night, apart from the Kaminski card, presumably for arguing', the others were all for '(serious?) foul play' with a Portsmouth player on the ground but as I recall, with 2 mins first half and 4 mins second half 'stoppage' time, no physio from either side came onto the pitch ??  A further indictment of the ref's 'quality'. On the penalty, apart from the delay between the impact and the whistle,  I was looking at the East Stand lino for his flag position, penalty usually 'across the chest', don't recall seeing that either?
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,773
    daveroan said:
    Jones missed a trick with his subs last night. During the second half he went to a back four. OK with that. BUT why not bring on Sichenje alongside Jones, with Ramsay and Bell as full backs because we lost forward momentum when Chambers went to left back. He could have worked with TC down the left with Dykes providing the knock ons as previous weeks. Thought Fevrier made a difference. Could he have a go alongside Dykes up top? Surely Rankin-Costello needs a run out in midfield alongside Coady,Clarke and a wingback? Think Kaminski has used up his quota of goodwill from his saves so bring Mannion in for  few games. So for WBA I'd go with
    Mannion,  Ramsay, Sichenjie, Jones, Bell;   Clarke Coady, Rankin- Costello, Chambers;  TC and Dykes. Solid defence for a game we must not lose!!!!!!
    So what happens if we do lose it ? Does that mean we will have to play in our pants for the rest of the season, or worse, play in those baggy serg shorts they used to give you when you forgot your PE kit ?