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++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,302
    Genuinely thought he found it from that Swansea to Blackburn game. But today just another example if he doesn’t get chances  he’s absolutely useless, Dykes TC and Leaburn for their lack of output still put themselves around and compete Kelman just hasn’t got that fight or battle in him. 3M down the drain from what it looks like 
  • Was surprised he wasn't running about a bit more to pressure Saints in added time
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 970
    His lack of intensity doesn't do him any favours, always looks like he is half asleep.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,454
    That counter where TC/Miles/Carey would have driven forward but he checked back was criminal, gave away a chance to put the defence under pressure and get a goal/free kick/corner
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,198
    Grim that our big money signing is effectively 5th choice striker now, but he didn't do himself any favours today.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,837
    Can see a loan away to league one in the summer and probably offload him at Christmas...

    Feel for him. But that type of striker in a Nathan Jones side in the Championship was always going to be a stretch. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,046
    Poor today. He didn't work hard enough physically and he seems to jump out of his duels, which makes life so easy for the defender. Just put your body across them and take the contact, win a foul or compete at least.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,422
    Not having him at all. 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,001
    He's so passive, was good to see him back defending at one point just to see him doing something, having a forward that spends most of the game strolling around waiting for the perfect pass isn't really going to work for us.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,547
    Like Godden there’s no doubt he can score goals, but it’s frustrating how little he offers outside the box. I’m not sure we create enough with him on the pitch to justify starting him, the other strikers help us create more.

    TC showed why he started over him, his pace and dribbling is always an outlet even if the end product is poor. Definitely a good decision in a game like today.

    Dykes and Leaburn win headers and fouls, link up the play better, and physically give the CBs a game. Kelman’s had the occasional moment when he shows a bit of pace or strength, but it’s all too rare.

    Games like Oxford and Sheff Wed are the ones I’d potentially start him, where we can get away with starting a poacher who offers little outside the box more, and he’s more likely to get a few chances.

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  • All I can say is if TC gave that little effort he would be rightly slated
    Theres obviously a player there somewhere based on what he did last season but jeez the laziness is another level 
    It’s really no wonder NJ doesn’t pick him, or in fact signed him, that last 10 minutes was torture and he was strolling around like it was a friendly 

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,837
    All I can say is if TC gave that little effort he would be rightly slated
    Theres obviously a player there somewhere based on what he did last season but jeez the laziness is another level 
    It’s really no wonder NJ doesn’t pick him, or in fact signed him, that last 10 minutes was torture and he was strolling around like it was a friendly 

    Go on?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,698
    edited February 21
    He looks like the lost boy I was talking about back in August / September. Thought he might have kicked on after a couple of performances over the Christmas period but it hasn’t happened.

    Not sure why we signed him.
  • Really disappointed in him TBH. Need to start seeing a lot more or can see him being sent back to L1 next season if we stay up.
  • elbiglad
    elbiglad Posts: 150
    Disappointed with him today. I really liked his interview after he scored v Oxford, I thought that was a great sign of his character. Worked hard, got back in the side, expected him to kick on. 

    Unfortunately it just hasn’t happened which has meant decreased game time, and he’s not showing much in the cameos he is now getting. It can be hard for out of favour strikers to impress without scoring, but failing to work hard in limited minutes is poor. Thought Leaburn was brilliant in his outing today. 

    I’ll forgive him checking back on the counter today if it was to try and waste time. My fear is it’s because he just doesn’t back himself and is not quick enough to pull away. He definitely doesn’t anticipate the game well enough at the moment, stark when compared to a Godden. He’s never quite in the right place, always a bit flat footed. Still holding out hope he will come good, but perhaps that is heart over head.

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,882
    Genuinely thought he found it from that Swansea to Blackburn game. But today just another example if he doesn’t get chances  he’s absolutely useless, Dykes TC and Leaburn for their lack of output still put themselves around and compete Kelman just hasn’t got that fight or battle in him. 3M down the drain from what it looks like 
    One good season last season, another Ajose.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,882
    Really disappointed in him TBH. Need to start seeing a lot more or can see him being sent back to L1 next season if we stay up.
    I blame Jones, he needs to play to Kelman's strengths after shelling out a fortune(in our terms).
    Otherwise he should have kept Alfie.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,454
    Really disappointed in him TBH. Need to start seeing a lot more or can see him being sent back to L1 next season if we stay up.
    I blame Jones, he needs to play to Kelman's strengths after shelling out a fortune(in our terms).
    Otherwise he should have kept Alfie.
    Have you seen Alfie May's record this season? Or how we did without him last season?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,198
    elbiglad said:
    Disappointed with him today. I really liked his interview after he scored v Oxford, I thought that was a great sign of his character. Worked hard, got back in the side, expected him to kick on. 

    Unfortunately it just hasn’t happened which has meant decreased game time, and he’s not showing much in the cameos he is now getting. It can be hard for out of favour strikers to impress without scoring, but failing to work hard in limited minutes is poor. Thought Leaburn was brilliant in his outing today. 

    I’ll forgive him checking back on the counter today if it was to try and waste time. My fear is it’s because he just doesn’t back himself and is not quick enough to pull away. He definitely doesn’t anticipate the game well enough at the moment, stark when compared to a Godden. He’s never quite in the right place, always a bit flat footed. Still holding out hope he will come good, but perhaps that is heart over head.

    I've no idea what he was thinking with that late breakaway. He could have driven towards goal and had a shot, he could have headed to the corner, but no he instead just stopped running, and it all fizzled out, with Soton soon getting the ball back to mount another attack.

    It was the action of someone totally devoid of confidence, but also someone who's all round game doesn't suit our style of play.
  • He looks like the lost boy I was talking about back in August / September. Thought he might have kicked on after a couple of performances over the Christmas period but it hasn’t happened.

    Not sure why we signed him.
    Charlie Kelboy

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,302
    he would look better with better players around him as there would be less reliance to do the hard work and he would get more chances. But not sure we can afford to wait and hope he comes good, doubt we’re going to suddenly be turned into a free flowing top end team in the near future 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,966
    Think people are being harsh on him today. Came on and helped us secure a point. We were already digging in and sitting deep. 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,302
    Think people are being harsh on him today. Came on and helped us secure a point. We were already digging in and sitting deep. 
    Helped us secure a point? He made us look worse when he came on, Butchered 2x counter attacks with a dreadful pass to Carey and turned back 1v1 w a defender for a run at goal, no pressing and the one time he did track back he had a great opportunity to win the ball off edozie on the wing after a heavy touch and just didn’t attempt to make a tackle 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,437
    We don’t play to his strengths.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,966
    edited February 22
    This has all the alarm bells of scapegoating TC for a poor sub appearance v QPR. Do we always have to dig one of them out, even when we get a decent point? 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,015
    This has all the alarm bells of scapegoating TC for a poor sub appearance v QPR. Do we always have to dig one of them out, even when we get a decent point? 
    Yes of course we do
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,161
    We're Charlton, its what we do
  • elbiglad said:
    Disappointed with him today. I really liked his interview after he scored v Oxford, I thought that was a great sign of his character. Worked hard, got back in the side, expected him to kick on. 

    Unfortunately it just hasn’t happened which has meant decreased game time, and he’s not showing much in the cameos he is now getting. It can be hard for out of favour strikers to impress without scoring, but failing to work hard in limited minutes is poor. Thought Leaburn was brilliant in his outing today. 

    I’ll forgive him checking back on the counter today if it was to try and waste time. My fear is it’s because he just doesn’t back himself and is not quick enough to pull away. He definitely doesn’t anticipate the game well enough at the moment, stark when compared to a Godden. He’s never quite in the right place, always a bit flat footed. Still holding out hope he will come good, but perhaps that is heart over head.

    I've no idea what he was thinking with that late breakaway. He could have driven towards goal and had a shot, he could have headed to the corner, but no he instead just stopped running, and it all fizzled out, with Soton soon getting the ball back to mount another attack.

    It was the action of someone totally devoid of confidence, but also someone who's all round game doesn't suit our style of play.
    Was definitely a disappointing moment, at the very least run towards the corner flag to avoid Southampton getting the ball back towards our box sooner. Trouble is we just know that, that sort of attitude / commitment / whatever... Isn't going to put him back into the starting eleve
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,203
    The check back when he was 1v1 against a tiring defender was criminal, knock it past him and back yourself in a foot race - he’d have won something if only a throw in and relieved the pressure. 

    Doesn’t seem to have much confidence - understandably given that when he has done well he’s been dropped again

    theres definitely a player in there 
  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,337
    edited February 22
    Really disappointed in him TBH. Need to start seeing a lot more or can see him being sent back to L1 next season if we stay up.
    I think we’ll see most players we signed last summer move on if we stay up.

    Wouldn’t be suprised to see the likes of Kelman, Knibbs, Olaofe & Apter all move on.

    In light of so many players struggling to step up from L1, we’ll definitely look for players with significant championship experience (Bell,  Coady, Clarke, Dykes types etc) or foreign based players going forward.

    The strategy of buying the best from L1 hasn’t worked (massive difference in quality between the two leagues).