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POST-MATCH THREAD: West Bromwich Albion v Charlton Athletic: Tuesday 24th February 2026: KO 19:45

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  • Tough watch ! But At least viewing the match on my phone reduced the full horror, a much reduced screen and reduced quality of football ….the beautiful game it ain’t ! 
    why does Jones sets us up with hoof ball,  hit and hope to Leaburn & Dykes, but hey a points a point and well done to the Addicks who made the trip to the Baggies, thankfully  Dykes nicked us a valuable point - imagine the meltdown if he hadn’t equalised ! We go again in Wales let’s hope Jones brings some of his inner welsh dragon fire and brimstone & sets the team up with Dykes plus Kelman or TC onto next Saturdays match COYA’s 
  • For me the Coady in midfield experiment needs to end
    Yet we've lost just the one game with the experiment? - You'll get your wish this Saturday though
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,588
    Well done to Ramsay for being brave with the ball for our goal, and of course to Dykes for his movement/finish. 

    Take the point and go to sleep. Sometimes that's all you need!
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,319
    Sword65pf said:
    Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned, could someone let us know where our budget ranks in the division and correlate it to how good or bad we are doing? 
    Sword65pf said:
    Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned, could someone let us know where our budget ranks in the division and correlate it to how good or bad we are doing? 
    one of our directors claimed are player budget is the third lowest in the Championship.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,786
    Addicksi said:
    The referee made several weird decisions early on. The worst being the yellow card for Jones. It was a very classy challenge and prem quality tackle. 
    It was a lovely tackle that crocked himself, but he had dragged the bloke's shirt halfway off first 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,001
    CAFC_boi said:
    A must not lose and we didn’t but that was utterly abysmal. 

    West Brom by far the better team. 

    Fevrier was terrible, had a fridge on his back and 50p boots on. 

    Sichenje is not ready. 

    Never want to see Leaburn and Dykes up front together again. Dykes is actually a quality player, very impressed by him. 

    It’s terrible and ugly football but looks like it will keep us up by the skin of our teeth. However I expect much much more and better football next season. Otherwise what’s the point. 

    Funny to be so annoyed after the result we prayed for but that performance was shocking. It’s a results business though. Goodnight. 
    If Collins isn't ready what about the rest of the team, they were worse than him.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,986
    edited February 24
    Tough watch ! But At least viewing the match on my phone reduced the full horror, a much reduced screen and reduced quality of football ….the beautiful game it ain’t ! 
    why does Jones sets us up with hoof ball,  hit and hope to Leaburn & Dykes, but hey a points a point and well done to the Addicks who made the trip to the Baggies, thankfully  Dykes nicked us a valuable point - imagine the meltdown if he hadn’t equalised ! We go again in Wales let’s hope Jones brings some of his inner welsh dragon fire and brimstone & sets the team up with Dykes plus Kelman or TC onto next Saturdays match COYA’s 
    Don't go to Wales to watch it, it will be at the Valley not the Valleys!
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,399
    edited February 24
    msomerton said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned, could someone let us know where our budget ranks in the division and correlate it to how good or bad we are doing? 
    Sword65pf said:
    Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned, could someone let us know where our budget ranks in the division and correlate it to how good or bad we are doing? 
    one of our directors claimed are player budget is the third lowest in the Championship.
    Sorry I was being sarcastic, as so many have started a post with varying positions or within they’re post as justification of performance. 
  • PWR. Great point in the scheme of things. I’d rather pick up points playing ugly than lose and go down playing wide open. 

    Hard to watch, lots of physicality, but need to create chances from the wings for the big lumps, not from long ball all the time. Finding passes and moving the ball quickly was such a struggle and lost the ball too quickly after we ran out of ideas and lumped it. Dykes and Leaburn worked super hard though it’s fair to say, and I wondered what was wrong with Dykes’ first attempt that was penalised?

    Off the ball we are super. Defensive shape, solid, not too many easy opportunities given. Too much possession surrendered though to have enough of a chance to win and a draw was lucky. More than happy overall. Survival is the key this season and that was a step towards that.
  • CH4RLTON said:
    Cant believe what Im reading Weve lost 1 game in 6 in a dog fight with smallest budget in the division during a season following being promoted from in the play offs one season after nearly being relegated to League Two, the entitlement of some of our fans is beyond daft :(
    Not sure how we rank in terms of budget but our football is awful to watch. We're reliant on our opponents not taking their chances...




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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,046
    edited February 24
    Leuth said:
    Someone has just given Coventry 4 in Player Marks but Carey and Coady 5. I'd say I'm off to have a lie down but I'm already lying down. Maybe I'll just die 
    You've earned your suffering.
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,284
    msomerton said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned, could someone let us know where our budget ranks in the division and correlate it to how good or bad we are doing? 
    Sword65pf said:
    Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned, could someone let us know where our budget ranks in the division and correlate it to how good or bad we are doing? 
    one of our directors claimed are player budget is the third lowest in the Championship.
    Our salary budget is 2nd lowest in the division..   Yet we are not near 2nd lowest in the division and have not been there for 1 minute the whole season.  Its attritional, its boring, but it is effective and we will stay up.  
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,552
    Laddick01 said:
    The good news is West Brom dropped 3 points tonight that they really should’ve had. They won’t play a worse side all season.

    I can’t even begin to go into all the issues with that performance.

    Ramsay really stepped up second half and Dykes took his goal superbly. 

    Unbelievably lucky to get anything from that, but let’s take the point and move on.
    I’m no Carol Vorderman but how did they drop 3 points if they drew?
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    A huge thank you to Lyndon Dykes for genuinely the only bit of quality football played by us the whole night.
    He really got Jones out of Jail with that.

    I staunchly remain in the camp that Jones hasn't a scooby on how to set up a side to attack. And I don't just mean final third action. I'm talking any sort of progressive football. The amount of times Bell for example picks the ball up and looks forward to a sea of nothing and routinely performs one of his about turns is a consistent pattern.
    When we do manage to muster some form of attacking passage of play and it inevitably breaks down, the opposition consistently manage to turn it into their own attack and without fail the ball ends up back down our throats.
     It's one of the reasons we never attack. He hasn't a clue on how to attack whilst keeping some form.of defensive shape.
     We keep hearing these poor displays won't happen again. But yet again they continue. If we do manage to clamber our way to safety then serious questions have to be asked as to whether Jones is the man to progress us to the next level? I know I'll get lols for that but these performances are so anti football.

    Im so grateful for what he achieved. I genuinely am, but I think success at this level even with bigger budgets and better players is beyond him.
    Well lets see if he gets a bigger budget and better players, I realise that it's your opinion but you can see that some players are not able to thrive too long in this division, if at all. Recruitment was rushed after the play-off final because most players who we would want were already snapped up by other clubs. If Sichenje is anything to go by then it looks like the process has begun. It's also worth remembering that we held an on form former Premier league club to a draw on Saturday, QPR, a more experienced Championship side than ourselves didn't get close to achieving that this evening. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,176
    A huge thank you to Lyndon Dykes for genuinely the only bit of quality football played by us the whole night.
    He really got Jones out of Jail with that.

    I staunchly remain in the camp that Jones hasn't a scooby on how to set up a side to attack. And I don't just mean final third action. I'm talking any sort of progressive football. The amount of times Bell for example picks the ball up and looks forward to a sea of nothing and routinely performs one of his about turns is a consistent pattern.
    When we do manage to muster some form of attacking passage of play and it inevitably breaks down, the opposition consistently manage to turn it into their own attack and without fail the ball ends up back down our throats.
     It's one of the reasons we never attack. He hasn't a clue on how to attack whilst keeping some form.of defensive shape.
     We keep hearing these poor displays won't happen again. But yet again they continue. If we do manage to clamber our way to safety then serious questions have to be asked as to whether Jones is the man to progress us to the next level? I know I'll get lols for that but these performances are so anti football.

    Im so grateful for what he achieved. I genuinely am, but I think success at this level even with bigger budgets and better players is beyond him.
    Hear hear 👏👏👏👏
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    msomerton said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned, could someone let us know where our budget ranks in the division and correlate it to how good or bad we are doing? 
    Sword65pf said:
    Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned, could someone let us know where our budget ranks in the division and correlate it to how good or bad we are doing? 
    one of our directors claimed are player budget is the third lowest in the Championship.
    It is, that's been confirmed elsewhere as well. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,399
    JaShea99 said:
    Laddick01 said:
    The good news is West Brom dropped 3 points tonight that they really should’ve had. They won’t play a worse side all season.

    I can’t even begin to go into all the issues with that performance.

    Ramsay really stepped up second half and Dykes took his goal superbly. 

    Unbelievably lucky to get anything from that, but let’s take the point and move on.
    I’m no Carol Vorderman but how did they drop 3 points if they drew?
    No chance of 3 from the top 2 from the bottom and the rest from anywhere then?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,199
    Wow that was awful - can't string any passes together. Terrible to watch.

    We are undoubtedly the worst team I've seen in the Championship this season... Surely we can play better than this?
    We were absolute dogshit but how deflated must WBA be in not beating us? If they couldn’t overcome us tonight how on earth are they going to pick up many more points this season?
    Amusing that it's the player we signed from Birmingham who got the goal.

    Looking at some of the comments on X, the WBA fans aren't happy. I'd forgotten that they had Daryl Dike on the bench, who didn't come on. I remember him being lethal when he played for them first time around.

    Eric Ramsay did the post match press conference, so is still in the job at the moment.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,287
    Two years ago... 
    vs. Now... 
    Just getting the job done by any means necessary... We dont need to be impressive at this stage of the season, its not like we're going to have some late surge towards the Play-Offs, we don't need to win any plaudits - All that matters is getting points on the boards, and a few wins here and there... Whilst a good few are fixated on "how" we play, they might realise, in part, we're just replicating the needs to survive a relegation battle from a few years ago... A few even said we were basically relegated after that Lincoln draw.

    Oh and people even said in May 2024 that they didnt see us "evolving" under Jones...
    I mean, we have not evolved that much if at all. It's still Jonesball, it's still grinding out wins andong periods on the back foot, it's still not much fun at all to sit through. However it is ALSO still working, just about. I've no problem with "getting the job done" in purely pragmatic terms, if it keeps us up then mission accomplished but that doesn't mean it's not a pretty horrible experience.

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  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    Tough watch ! But At least viewing the match on my phone reduced the full horror, a much reduced screen and reduced quality of football ….the beautiful game it ain’t ! 
    why does Jones sets us up with hoof ball,  hit and hope to Leaburn & Dykes, but hey a points a point and well done to the Addicks who made the trip to the Baggies, thankfully  Dykes nicked us a valuable point - imagine the meltdown if he hadn’t equalised ! We go again in Wales let’s hope Jones brings some of his inner welsh dragon fire and brimstone & sets the team up with Dykes plus Kelman or TC onto next Saturdays match COYA’s 
    Don't go to Wales to watch it, it will be at the Valley not the Valleys!
    I see comments like that, not yours Muttley by the way, and wonder if the poster actually supports Charlton, the world and his wife know where Wrexham are playing on Saturday. 
  • Nobody should be surprised we are a tough watch right now, we are basically playing seven defensive players in our outfield ten, with the only attacking players being Dykes, Carey and Leaburn/Campbell.

    We are hard to beat, but if you don't score then you don't win games and we are barely creating chances, let alone scoring goals right now.

    Compare this to our midfield under Bowyer that got us up, Aribo, Cullen, Williams and even Pratley could all play forward and create things, but we don't get that with Docherty or Coady.

    As others have said, staying up is our #1 priority, but we have to evolve into a more attacking unit, because you can't hope to keep grinding out results like this in the longer term.
  • thenewbie said:
    Two years ago... 
    vs. Now... 
    Just getting the job done by any means necessary... We dont need to be impressive at this stage of the season, its not like we're going to have some late surge towards the Play-Offs, we don't need to win any plaudits - All that matters is getting points on the boards, and a few wins here and there... Whilst a good few are fixated on "how" we play, they might realise, in part, we're just replicating the needs to survive a relegation battle from a few years ago... A few even said we were basically relegated after that Lincoln draw.

    Oh and people even said in May 2024 that they didnt see us "evolving" under Jones...
    I mean, we have not evolved that much if at all. It's still Jonesball, it's still grinding out wins andong periods on the back foot, it's still not much fun at all to sit through. However it is ALSO still working, just about. I've no problem with "getting the job done" in purely pragmatic terms, if it keeps us up then mission accomplished but that doesn't mean it's not a pretty horrible experience.
    Football in 2025 under Jones, until November was f**king dire to watch wasn't it...
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,622
    My god we are awful. We didn't lose a must not lose game and the goal was fairly nice on the eye and results went our way in other games but we were dire.

    Out of interest does Fevrier have a weird running technique or does he need to lay off the fast food?
    He was doing a cross between speed skating and the Charleston at one point :D but actually i quite like him - he has a go when he gets on the ball which is a rarity in our current squad. I actually feel like tonight has been a success - i've become accustomed to the style of football i guess and just accept it for what it is now. NJ has a method and that method will keep us up and that will do for now because i can't contemplate dropping into League 1 again.   
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,532
    Had to wait an hour before posting. Needed a lie down to recover from the bedazzlement of the silky skills. 
  • A few things are very clear to me 1) we need to play a more mobile striker next to Dykes whether it be Kelman/godden/Tc.  No fault to Miles it is more of a playing style issue.  2) Coventry has to start over coady.  He is just too slow 3) we hate when Carey is selfish but we would be in a bad place if he wasn’t selfish 4) NJ is just too stuck in his ways at times and slow to adapt to something that isn’t working
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,609


    For me the Coady in midfield experiment needs to end (especially in home games we need to win). It’s not amazing, but Coventry and Doc coincided with our best football of the season. I would go back to that…… Kelman and Dykes / Leaburn up front. And if Jones is out I would put Ramsay RWB, and have Collins, Coady and Bell in the middle 
    It will on Saturday when he can’t play. 
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,770
    That's got to be a morale sapper for WBA - that can only be a good thing. 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,527
    I just want to say that was a splendid effort from West Brom and Erik Ramsay, I hope they extend his Contract tomorrow
    Hope tomorrow goes well FA
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    A huge thank you to Lyndon Dykes for genuinely the only bit of quality football played by us the whole night.
    He really got Jones out of Jail with that.

    I staunchly remain in the camp that Jones hasn't a scooby on how to set up a side to attack. And I don't just mean final third action. I'm talking any sort of progressive football. The amount of times Bell for example picks the ball up and looks forward to a sea of nothing and routinely performs one of his about turns is a consistent pattern.
    When we do manage to muster some form of attacking passage of play and it inevitably breaks down, the opposition consistently manage to turn it into their own attack and without fail the ball ends up back down our throats.
     It's one of the reasons we never attack. He hasn't a clue on how to attack whilst keeping some form.of defensive shape.
     We keep hearing these poor displays won't happen again. But yet again they continue. If we do manage to clamber our way to safety then serious questions have to be asked as to whether Jones is the man to progress us to the next level? I know I'll get lols for that but these performances are so anti football.

    Im so grateful for what he achieved. I genuinely am, but I think success at this level even with bigger budgets and better players is beyond him.
    Hear hear 👏👏👏👏
    Golfie, I get it that Nathan Jones style of football doesn't sit well with you mate but at the moment he is in credit by virtue of the fact that he got us promoted into the championship after five years away and looks, at the moment, like achieving a second term in this division by hook or by crook, all possible after he sold our top scorer and after you stated that and I quote 'you don't get promoted by selling the divisions top scorer'. So for the moment I trust Nathan Jones understanding of the beautiful game rather than yours.