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Conor Coady Signs On Loan From Wrexham

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  • elbiglad
    elbiglad Posts: 190
    Chunes said:
    elbiglad said:
    I’m talking about him in Doc’s role and not Carey’s, to be clear. 

    I am obviously not putting him in the same bracket as Rice, don’t be obtuse. I am comparing the transition from ‘holding’ midfielder to ‘box to box’. CC and DR play a similar position, in a similar way, and people made the same criticisms of Rice that you have just made about Coventry. Arteta has given him more license to go forward and his game improved massively. 

    I am saying I think he has the POTENTIAL to play the Doc position, and it’s worth trying because buying a player who can run AND play with the ball in that position will cost a lot of money. 
    I get what you mean but not all good players cost good money. Sonny Carey didn't, we just need the CM version of him. Ebou Adams would have been great, I don't know why we didn't go in for him (or if we did). Galbraith went to Swansea but didn't cost anything. There are a decent bunch of Championship midfielders out of contract in the summer like Dozzell, De Norre, Doyle, Slater, Baker, etc.. And then there's always the chance Phil Chapple pulls the next Pirlo out of Poland.
    I was surprised we didn’t go after Adams, but after Millwall Jones said he wanted a midfielder who could control the game hence the links to Sam Field. That must’ve been his priority. I don’t think Derby were bothered to see him leave, so it may just be that he’s in a rich vein of form… but he strikes me as a Jones player.  

    Well, of course you’re right and some (most) of our best signings have been frees. However it’s not just the fees, I don’t know what those players would demand in wages. Often times more than maybe warranted given there’s no fee attached and the high demand. 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,531
    Chunes said:
    elbiglad said:
    I’m talking about him in Doc’s role and not Carey’s, to be clear. 

    I am obviously not putting him in the same bracket as Rice, don’t be obtuse. I am comparing the transition from ‘holding’ midfielder to ‘box to box’. CC and DR play a similar position, in a similar way, and people made the same criticisms of Rice that you have just made about Coventry. Arteta has given him more license to go forward and his game improved massively. 

    I am saying I think he has the POTENTIAL to play the Doc position, and it’s worth trying because buying a player who can run AND play with the ball in that position will cost a lot of money. 
    I get what you mean but not all good players cost good money. Sonny Carey didn't, we just need the CM version of him. Ebou Adams would have been great, I don't know why we didn't go in for him (or if we did). Galbraith went to Swansea but didn't cost anything. There are a decent bunch of Championship midfielders out of contract in the summer like Dozzell, De Norre, Doyle, Slater, Baker, etc.. And then there's always the chance Phil Chapple pulls the next Pirlo out of Poland.
    There’s not one midfielder on that list we could attract cause they’re all regular starters at better clubs except Dozzell but he’s apparently not great. Our best chance is to go to top championship sides like your Ipswich’s Southampton’s and take players that are massively out of favour but would work for us. Seen it with Bree, Clarke, Coady, Dykes, even top prem prospects like Chambers who may be getting a little old and may want to be cashed in on. Id be knocking down the door for Marc Leonard from brum personally 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,812
    edited February 23
    Galbraith did cost Swansea some money FWIW, he wasn’t out of contract
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,432
    Galbraith did cost Swansea some money FWIW, he wasn’t out of contract
    Couple of million I believe in the end? Think the rumours were we offered £1m+ add-ons.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,531
    edited February 23
    MarcusH26 said:
    Galbraith did cost Swansea some money FWIW, he wasn’t out of contract
    Couple of million I believe in the end? Think the rumours were we offered £1m+ add-ons.
    It’s 1.5M with some add ons. We had an offer accepted but Galbraith didn’t want to join us because of our style of play which is very ironic because Swansea played the exact same style of play as us before they sacked Sheehan and if they didn’t have Galbraith and we did we’d be above them 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,047
    MarcusH26 said:
    Galbraith did cost Swansea some money FWIW, he wasn’t out of contract
    Couple of million I believe in the end? Think the rumours were we offered £1m+ add-ons.
    It’s 1.5M with some add ons. We had an offer accepted but Galbraith didn’t want to join us because of our style of play which is very ironic because Swansea played the exact same style of play as us before they sacked Sheehan and if they didn’t have Galbraith and we did we’d be above them 
     Hmm not sure on this. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,150
    edited February 23
    elbiglad said:
    Chunes said:
    I'm not sure what attributes Coventry has that would allow him to play higher. He is almost perfect positionally and solid in the tackle. What he can't do is progress the ball, play on the half-turn or ball carry. 
    Yeah - clarified I meant Doc’s role above, poorly worded first post. I actually think some of those attributes are being restricted in his current role. I don’t think he’s asked to risk playing progressively as we don’t build through the lines. Don’t see why Jones would want him carrying the ball regularly as he’s often picking it up from the CBs. 

    I feel like when he does get forward he has good close interplay with others, is able to move the ball quickly and is better carrying the ball than he gets credit for. I’m not saying he will 100% be better in that position, but wouldn’t mind seeing it. 
    Not sure if he is being asked to play so conservatively because Coady has been showing some nice passing range in the same role. But would Cov be any worse on the ball than Doch in that position? Probably not...!
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,208
    Fevrier is the most League One player I have ever seen
    What does that have to do with Conor Coady? Have they swapped bodies?
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 992
    Don't mind his experience in a scrappy team to get us over the line til the end of the season, but surely we can't retain him after. He looks shot as a professional; he can barely move.

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  • IR94 said:
    Don't mind his experience in a scrappy team to get us over the line til the end of the season, but surely we can't retain him after. He looks shot as a professional; he can barely move.
    He can move his pointing arm well enough. 
  • Can't play on Saturday as it's against his parent club, so i assume Coventry will play.

    Might not be a bad thing anyway because after not playing for 4 months he's been thrown in and played 6 games in just over 3 weeks, so i think he could probably do with a rest.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,611
    Great chance for Coventry to win his place back. Wonder if we’ll then see Gough or Mitchell on the bench as cover.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,208
    Could Coady slot back into defence if Jones is out for a prolonged period?
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,531
    Could Coady slot back into defence if Jones is out for a prolonged period?
    Guessing we may go with the CB we just spent 1.7M pound on 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,586
    Could Coady slot back into defence if Jones is out for a prolonged period?
    I like Coady in the defensive midfield role, think it’s been an a key part in the upturn since the Millwall debacle. Would be wary about his mobility (or lack thereof) in defence though. 
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 936
    edited February 25
    Could Coady slot back into defence if Jones is out for a prolonged period?
    Guessing we may go with the CB we just spent 1.7M pound on 
    Radical!
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    gringo Posts: 936
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  • elbiglad
    elbiglad Posts: 190
    My man of the match last night. Big shoes to fill replacing L Jones, but he did it brilliantly - and a goal to boot. 

    If there's a chance of keeping him next season then I'd be all for it. Obviously the finances may be an issue - primarily wages as I think Wrexham would let him go relatively cheaply, but his experience, versatility and leadership are huge.  
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,265
    elbiglad said:
    My man of the match last night. Big shoes to fill replacing L Jones, but he did it brilliantly - and a goal to boot. 

    If there's a chance of keeping him next season then I'd be all for it. Obviously the finances may be an issue - primarily wages as I think Wrexham would let him go relatively cheaply, but his experience, versatility and leadership are huge.  
    agreed - he was immense last night, I bet he's a great character to have around the dressing room as well

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  • elbiglad said:
    My man of the match last night. Big shoes to fill replacing L Jones, but he did it brilliantly - and a goal to boot. 

    If there's a chance of keeping him next season then I'd be all for it. Obviously the finances may be an issue - primarily wages as I think Wrexham would let him go relatively cheaply, but his experience, versatility and leadership are huge.  
    I suspect it will also depend on whether Coady wants to move down south for an extended period at this stage of his life as he has a young family. Probably OK to do it for a few months but longer might be more problematic. 

    And I suspect getting £15K a week if he stays with Wrexham for another year  is another inducement not to uproot himself!
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 28,746
    Can't half talk the hind leg off a donkey though. I have to slow the youtube videos down to 75% to give my brain a chance to keep up.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,784
    Modern day Andy Hughes in this squad... Has effectively replaced Danny Hylton in the squad with that role
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,334
    Last night was exactly the kind of game/situation he was signed for, a backs-to-the-wall, defensive set up where experience counts. Plus having that leadership when L. Jones is unavailable is invaluable.

    If we can come to an understanding about wages etc I wouldn't mind him coming back next season but with the other things we need I wouldn't blow the budget on him either.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,531
    I don’t think we can talk about wanting to progress the style of football and then bringing Coady back.

    His best games of the season have come against Boro and Southampton great when you plan on playing park the bus but when the games open up like we’ve seen at QPR Pompey and West Brom he’s not at his best. 

    He’s been great for us, I’m sure he’s enjoyed it so been a good partnership and wish each other well at the end of the year 
  • elbiglad
    elbiglad Posts: 190
    I don’t think we can talk about wanting to progress the style of football and then bringing Coady back.

    His best games of the season have come against Boro and Southampton great when you plan on playing park the bus but when the games open up like we’ve seen at QPR Pompey and West Brom he’s not at his best. 

    He’s been great for us, I’m sure he’s enjoyed it so been a good partnership and wish each other well at the end of the year 
    Fair point, but you need variety in the squad and we will have more games like that next year. Progression in our style doesn't mean we will necessarily set up to play expansive football away to big teams next year.

    Coady is pretty good on the ball, especially when playing deeper. Some were saying he was better than Coventry on the ball over the last few weeks. I think his experience and leadership are massive for a young team. We also need to look to improve all areas of the squad as depth is so crucial in this league. I would have Coady over Burke, for instance. 

  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,036
    We’ll need him next season for Tottenham away ole ole.
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 707
    If he’s willing to take a massive, massive pay cut I think he’d be brilliant to have for next season, just from a dressing room perspective like Andy hughes under Powell. Real leader, positive guy and top notch communicator, you could see him coaching gough through the first half. 
  • Coady, Clarke, Dykes - all potentially available for next season, each of them very expensive, but with each of them we know exactly what we'd be getting. Might be expensive, but much less risk than buying the best of League One. No waiting and seeing if they fit the system - we already know they do. The value for money is clear to me - safety this season and get a better foothold in the division next season. I have no idea if any of them would want to stay, let alone a deal be done, but they'll be big boots to fill.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,897
    elbiglad said:
    My man of the match last night. Big shoes to fill replacing L Jones, but he did it brilliantly - and a goal to boot. 

    If there's a chance of keeping him next season then I'd be all for it. Obviously the finances may be an issue - primarily wages as I think Wrexham would let him go relatively cheaply, but his experience, versatility and leadership are huge.  
    I suspect it will also depend on whether Coady wants to move down south for an extended period at this stage of his life as he has a young family. Probably OK to do it for a few months but longer might be more problematic. 

    And I suspect getting £15K a week if he stays with Wrexham for another year  is another inducement not to uproot himself!
    And the rest, he's supposedly on 25k a week.