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POST-MATCH THREAD: West Bromwich Albion v Charlton Athletic: Tuesday 24th February 2026: KO 19:45

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  • Looked second best against one of the worse teams in the league. The performances are not good enough 
    Whilst days before we eeked out a draw against a team that cost £70m and have lost just the once in six... But Im sure we'll be facing Bromley next season, given we've been told by a few on here that we're going to drop into the bottom three aaaaany minute now
    It was an awful performance and not even the worst in the past month. Surely you can see this is a downwards trend we’ve tailed off massively when it matters most 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,311
    edited February 25
    Looked second best against one of the worse teams in the league. The performances are not good enough 
    Whilst days before we eeked out a draw against a team that cost £70m and have lost just the once in six... But Im sure we'll be facing Bromley next season, given we've been told by a few on here that we're going to drop into the bottom three aaaaany minute now
    It was an awful performance and not even the worst in the past month. Surely you can see this is a downwards trend we’ve tailed off massively when it matters most 
    We're grinding out results, the key is point(s), doesn't matter how we get them, just get them... I also like how you have conveniently changed performances to performance...

    Wonder who will be the first to complain if we try and match teams with style in this Division and lose horrendously 
  • Looked second best against one of the worse teams in the league. The performances are not good enough 
    Whilst days before we eeked out a draw against a team that cost £70m and have lost just the once in six... But Im sure we'll be facing Bromley next season, given we've been told by a few on here that we're going to drop into the bottom three aaaaany minute now
    It was an awful performance and not even the worst in the past month. Surely you can see this is a downwards trend we’ve tailed off massively when it matters most 
    We're grinding out results, the key is point(s), doesn't matter how we get them, just get them... I also like how you have conveniently changed performances to performance...

    Wonder who will be the first to complain if we try and match teams with style in this Division and lose horrendously 
    not that convenient when you mentioned Southampton is it…
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,677
    Looked second best against one of the worse teams in the league. The performances are not good enough 
    Whilst days before we eeked out a draw against a team that cost £70m and have lost just the once in six... But Im sure we'll be facing Bromley next season, given we've been told by a few on here that we're going to drop into the bottom three aaaaany minute now
    It was an awful performance and not even the worst in the past month. Surely you can see this is a downwards trend we’ve tailed off massively when it matters most 
    It was a v poor performance, but we're top of the relegation mini-league. 
  • Looked second best against one of the worse teams in the league. The performances are not good enough 
    Whilst days before we eeked out a draw against a team that cost £70m and have lost just the once in six... But Im sure we'll be facing Bromley next season, given we've been told by a few on here that we're going to drop into the bottom three aaaaany minute now
    It was an awful performance and not even the worst in the past month. Surely you can see this is a downwards trend we’ve tailed off massively when it matters most 
    We're grinding out results, the key is point(s), doesn't matter how we get them, just get them... I also like how you have conveniently changed performances to performance...

    Wonder who will be the first to complain if we try and match teams with style in this Division and lose horrendously 
    not that convenient when you mentioned Southampton is it…
    I was referring to you when you went from saying performances haven't been great, to suddenly having to stick to just performance, because you were once again reminded of Saturday. 

    Not difficult is it
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,135
    if we stay up, I think the midfield has to be the prority. The strikers are hard to judge when they get no service.
    Strikers who turn 100% of their shots into goals sounds pretty good to me.

    Seriously, I agree with you 100%. I hope Nathan does, too. 
  • Looked second best against one of the worse teams in the league. The performances are not good enough 
    Whilst days before we eeked out a draw against a team that cost £70m and have lost just the once in six... But Im sure we'll be facing Bromley next season, given we've been told by a few on here that we're going to drop into the bottom three aaaaany minute now
    It was an awful performance and not even the worst in the past month. Surely you can see this is a downwards trend we’ve tailed off massively when it matters most 
    We're grinding out results, the key is point(s), doesn't matter how we get them, just get them... I also like how you have conveniently changed performances to performance...

    Wonder who will be the first to complain if we try and match teams with style in this Division and lose horrendously 
    not that convenient when you mentioned Southampton is it…
    I was referring to you when you went from saying performances haven't been great, to suddenly having to stick to just performance, because you were once again reminded of Saturday. 

    Not difficult is it
    Did you not read the part where I said and not even the worst in the past month? 
  • Looked second best against one of the worse teams in the league. The performances are not good enough 
    Whilst days before we eeked out a draw against a team that cost £70m and have lost just the once in six... But Im sure we'll be facing Bromley next season, given we've been told by a few on here that we're going to drop into the bottom three aaaaany minute now
    It was an awful performance and not even the worst in the past month. Surely you can see this is a downwards trend we’ve tailed off massively when it matters most 
    We're grinding out results, the key is point(s), doesn't matter how we get them, just get them... I also like how you have conveniently changed performances to performance...

    Wonder who will be the first to complain if we try and match teams with style in this Division and lose horrendously 
    not that convenient when you mentioned Southampton is it…
    I was referring to you when you went from saying performances haven't been great, to suddenly having to stick to just performance, because you were once again reminded of Saturday. 

    Not difficult is it
    Did you not read the part where I said and not even the worst in the past month? 
    Sorry will leave you to your sensationistic comments
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,935
    edited February 25
    Terrible but great point given we came from behind.

    This is why people call these games must win, when we're bad we're truly awful so would be nice to take advantage of those who are just as bad and take all 3 points and not make survival bloody harder for ourselves, but a points better than no points.

    Collins looked good again when he came on, can get about the pitch a bit so makes for an excellent covering defender.

    Lovely ball from Ramsay and a well taken goal from Dykes, see what happens when you dare to pass it forward to feet 😱


    Losing Jones is a massive blow with 3 tough games in a row but sexy Sichenje got it covered.



  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,457
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    "It was tough on me and Miles, we were quite isolated and weren't really doing our patterns of play we've been working on in training"
    Do you mean they actually work on patterns of play in training???!!!
    Blimey, just think how bad we would be going forward if the team didn't do this?
    Thank heavens that NJ has the foresight to actually think about patterns of play and getting the team up the pitch.
    Where on earth would we be without this?
    Your immense sarcasm manages to completely miss the point of the quote. They do work on them in training, what they don't do is actually use them in games. Now that might very well be a coaching issue but words to that effect have been said during pretty much every bad run of performances we've had under NJ so it isn't a coincidence

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,457
    WBA are undoubtedly one of the worst teams in the division, there's no argument there and it is frustrating we couldn't beat them or play more aggressively but some context about their squad is needed. Trasnfermarkt values their squad at €68.53m and ours at €29.05m. That, of course, means they have some players capable of playing better than the team performances suggest. I think their two best performers last night were Campbell and Johnston. Campbell was a genuine bargain, he cost about €1.3m last summer. That is still more than we spent on a defender in that window, Sichenje has cost more. If you include loan fees, Johnston has got WBA a total of €4.7m which is more than we have spent on any single player this season and probably for a decade. He's also played a decent number of games for Celtic, European football and nearly 100 Championship games and is 26. We don't really have players of that age, with that pedigree. The 26 yr olds in our squad are Knibbs and JRC. 

    Was our football turgid and uninspiring? Of course it was. Should we be regularly beating teams with squad value over double ours? Of course not
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    Two years ago... 
    vs. Now... 
    Just getting the job done by any means necessary... We dont need to be impressive at this stage of the season, its not like we're going to have some late surge towards the Play-Offs, we don't need to win any plaudits - All that matters is getting points on the boards, and a few wins here and there... Whilst a good few are fixated on "how" we play, they might realise, in part, we're just replicating the needs to survive a relegation battle from a few years ago... A few even said we were basically relegated after that Lincoln draw.

    Oh and people even said in May 2024 that they didnt see us "evolving" under Jones...
    So say we stay up......what's our aim for next season?  4th bottom again ? What will our budget be ? 3rd worse again ? Assuming Cardiff & Lincoln get promoted (no idea who will go up via the play offs) then I expect Lincoln's will be worse but Cardiff I imagine will be a lot better than ours & would be looking at mid table (like Stoke or Swaneea). 

    Unless we take it seriously next season then I don't expect it to be much different to this season. And I wouldn't think too many would accept another season of hoofball with no desire to win a game of football  
    It’s this naivety and moaning which I think winds some people up. The first season after promotion is always the toughest as you have to upgrade most of the squad, all on a low budget. Next season we don’t have to upgrade the whole squad, while a lot of L1 players haven’t made the step up, there’s a backbone of a squad there that can compete, adding four or five quality players will improve us further, but it’s going to be small improvements every season. If you’re not happy with the owners and them wanting the club to be run in a sustainable way then please write them a letter rather than clogging up this forum with your moaning.
    I think it's a legitimate question to ask on here. Everyone is saying that we should be thankful for being where we are given our budget so I just ask.....what will our budget be next season ?  Because if its the same as in the summer (and let's be honest we didnt spend any money in January apart from the BFK - who is raw & not experienced inEnglish football) then we can expect more of the same. I think we should be looking at more than just keeping our heads above water, because a few long injuries/ loss of form and its hello League 1.
    Golfie, whilst your concerns are valid, we really don't know what the transfer plans or budget are and I don't think that will be addressed by the board until we do or do not secure Championship safety. As I have said, it's early days but the signing of Sichenje is a step in the right direction, but let rip mate when we know where we finish and what we put together with regards to the squad at that point. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,179
    if we stay up, I think the midfield has to be the prority. The strikers are hard to judge when they get no service.
    Should have been addressed in January. It’s been an open sore ever since Nathan Jones took over but he won’t look at it for some bizarre reason. Crying out for someone that tries to control the game.
    Because he doesn’t value it. 
    We won’t get away (if we do) of setting up like we currently do again next season. Three relegation slots this season with Wednesday relegated months ago. A poor Oxford and I think a few surprise teams struggling. Next year’s Championship will be a much tougher proposition. Setting up every week to keep a po8nt and nick something will eventually relegate us. 
    Agreed.
  • Redshift
    Redshift Posts: 28
    Ok for NJ to say we started slow and outplayed in first half etc etc as if that isn’t our norm. But it is our norm now. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    Looked second best against one of the worse teams in the league. The performances are not good enough 
    Whilst days before we eeked out a draw against a team that cost £70m and have lost just the once in six... But Im sure we'll be facing Bromley next season, given we've been told by a few on here that we're going to drop into the bottom three aaaaany minute now
    It was an awful performance and not even the worst in the past month. Surely you can see this is a downwards trend we’ve tailed off massively when it matters most 
    We're grinding out results, the key is point(s), doesn't matter how we get them, just get them... I also like how you have conveniently changed performances to performance...

    Wonder who will be the first to complain if we try and match teams with style in this Division and lose horrendously 
    not that convenient when you mentioned Southampton is it…
    I was referring to you when you went from saying performances haven't been great, to suddenly having to stick to just performance, because you were once again reminded of Saturday. 

    Not difficult is it
    Did you not read the part where I said and not even the worst in the past month? 
    Oh, you've raised your head again AberystwythAddick, you and a few others spent the entire first period of the Southampton game informing everyone how shit we were as a team or a club, then Carey equalised and you must have gone shopping with the wife, because we didn't hear you calling them shit after that. You are one of a number on here who's sport is ripping into the club as soon as we put in a poor performance or defeat. I'm hoping that you live where your user name suggests because I'd rather have people supporting the club at the Valley, but you and others continually slate a club that has lost once in the previous six games. 
  • Cafctekkers
    Cafctekkers Posts: 1,303
    edited February 25
    Am I the only one who thought Ramsay's pass was meant for Fev but he over hit it? Not that it bothers me in the slightest of course 😂
  • Such a huge point but just looking ahead to this weekend

    Leicester play Norwich - winnable 
    West Brom at Oxford - winnable 
    us V Wrexham - likely defeat

    if those 3 things occur we’ll still be sucked right back to the coal face of it 

    Really wanna be able to breathe out!


    Norwich can also win at Leicester. Oxford can also win at West Brom, the drew at boro last week. A draw in that game would be a good outcome for us
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,311
    edited February 25
    if we stay up, I think the midfield has to be the prority. The strikers are hard to judge when they get no service.
    Should have been addressed in January. It’s been an open sore ever since Nathan Jones took over but he won’t look at it for some bizarre reason. Crying out for someone that tries to control the game.
    Because he doesn’t value it. 
    We won’t get away (if we do) of setting up like we currently do again next season. Three relegation slots this season with Wednesday relegated months ago. A poor Oxford and I think a few surprise teams struggling. Next year’s Championship will be a much tougher proposition. Setting up every week to keep a po8nt and nick something will eventually relegate us. 
    Agreed.
    Easier to quote your post than find SHG's but whilst I agree... a year is a long time in the EFL, rather than the Premier League - Both Derby / Preston have gone from surviving relegation by a point, to having one eye this season on the Play-Offs, Oxford of course have gone the other way, from finishing 17th to likely relegation (maybe we want to avoid that position this year on thought)
    Even about a year and a half ago, no one would have thought that we'd have gone from a League One relegation battle, to winning the Play-Offs in a single season... The EFL (all three Divisions) is f**king weird, you can have a great campaign one year, and then for some reason, do utter shit the next and visa versa. Who knows what'll happen, so dont think its overly worth thinking / worrying about for now.
    Lincoln for example have swapped 11th for 2nd... Da f**k is all that about.

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  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,325
    edited February 25
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  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,125
    It makes you wonder if they knew they were on borrowed time with Lloyd hence Collins signing.... But he looks more than capable but relying on Gillispey is a little troublesome. Has anyone got an update on Burke coming back? 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,199
    Bizarrely Mikey Johnston hadn't started the previous 3 games for WBA. I'd read various comments from WBA fans baffled by that, and after last night I'm also confused, as he easily looked their best player. 

    Indeed we've played a number of excellent wingers in recent weeks in Johnston, Scienza, Fatawu and Azeez.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,223
    I think on reflection it will now be interesting what summer recruitment plans emerge. 

    Plenty of comments on here suggesting we had (last year) invested well / building a future squad but now it looks limited. 

    Do we expect wholesale rebuilding again?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,176
    Bizarrely Mikey Johnston hadn't started the previous 3 games for WBA. I'd read various comments from WBA fans baffled by that, and after last night I'm also confused, as he easily looked their best player. 

    Indeed we've played a number of excellent wingers in recent weeks in Johnston, Scienza, Fatawu and Azeez.
    Ah......wingers eh ?  Those clubs are so outdated. They need to get with the times and employ the wingback system. 2 for the price of one then 😀
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,291
    The total lack of competence, ambition or tactics on show last night left me with only one conclusion -  Russell Slade had returned.
  • 5 touches in the box and no corners. Seems hard to argue that one half is better than the other with those numbers. No clutching at straws please, time to move on to another plan 

    The players look lost trying to make this one work
  • Ramsay and Bell got very bad fouls yesterday and just jumped straight back up. Not saying go all Portsmouth/Arsenal style, but look after yourself and the team.