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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,238
    I think they are going to have to do better with the graphics on battery charge almost need them every time you have a close up of a car or a duel
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,690
    An intriguing race, though hards certainly lived up to their description and the last 15 laps was a bit of nothingness. 

    Not a big Mercedes fan, but do find George likeable so won’t be disappointed if he has a great year. I won’t rule out Max though. A top 6 quali and I think he would have been in the mix here 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,578
    Alwaysneil said:
    So Ferrari did fuck that up. No big surprise there, hamilton in particular who wanted to stop under VSC must be fuming. 

    No guarantee they would have done any better but theyd have been closer. 
    I don't think they would have been tbh, Mercedes were way quicker all weekend and if Ferrari pitted at the VSC they'd have been overtaken by them anyway, their only chance at a win was hoping the tyres fell off a cliff after 30 laps but they just didn't.

    Very telling that Mercedes were lapping similar times on tyres 15 laps older
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,626
    Only way this season could be a disaster for me, is if we see 2023 levels of domination from Russell
    Having one driver winning pretty much every race, and by 15-20 secs the majority of the time, disappearing off into the sunset after winning pole position... Yeah not great... I hope a lot of F1 fans (not talking on here), who enjoyed that dominating run from Verstappen remember that before they start complaining this coming year.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,384
    Didn't think it was a bad start really. Those first 10 or so laps were great fun. Ferrari Strategy had to strike again as usual. 

    McLaren look a bit in no man's land 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,238
    I think if the ferrari had pitted under VSC, at least one car, they wouldve been close enough to see some more overtaking even if mercedes won in the end.

    mclaren have the mercedes engine but the new engines are so sodding complex they probably dont understand it well enough to get the best out of it. They're a good team though and wouldnt surprise me if they get closer jn about 3/4 races time
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,578
    Alwaysneil said:
    I think if the ferrari had pitted under VSC, at least one car, they wouldve been close enough to see some more overtaking even if mercedes won in the end.

    mclaren have the mercedes engine but the new engines are so sodding complex they probably dont understand it well enough to get the best out of it. They're a good team though and wouldnt surprise me if they get closer jn about 3/4 races time
    Not all about engines though, Cadillac and Haas have that Ferrari engine and I didn't see them taking 5 or 6 places at the start. 

    I think China will be different again with more medium and low speed corners, battery recharge won't be much of an issue.

    Interesting that Lando reckons Ferrari have the best chassis, can't quite tell how he saw that from 30s+ behind them but there we go
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,207
    Just watched the highlights bonkers that Ferrari didn't pit in one of the VSC. What a disaster for Piastri as well in his home race 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,009
    I think Ferrari should have pitted one car in the VSC to mix up the strategy but doing so wouldn't have affected the race as it turned out as Mercedes were a bit too strong. Hamilton is right back in it and technical issues in qualifying probably cost him third, but being back in it doesn't help with the Mercedes advantage. 

    It seems you can overtake with these new cars but pay for using the battery more a few corners later and lose your place. Having said that things will differ track to track so the jury is still probably out. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,384
    Be interesting to see how it works with the long back straight in China. Would expect a lot of clipping and it being quite challenging to defend. 

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  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,304
    I know it's nothing but the sound of the cars is bloody boring. Not far off from Formula E. I know it's about the racing but I love the engine roar. Or at least I did.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,514
    In some ways it was quite nice to see engine reliability be an issue again. Given the rock-solid tyre reliability, it adds that air of unpredictability and I don't think any team, even Mercedes, will be immune to it for a while yet. Might be the only thing that stops them, at least until the compression ratio change in June. 

    Race was entertaining to start with, at least until Ferrari started doing Ferrari things again. Would have been interesting to see if Max or Oscar could have made a difference and hopefully we'll see all the top cars and drivers involved in China. 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,830
    WSS said:
    I know it's nothing but the sound of the cars is bloody boring. Not far off from Formula E. I know it's about the racing but I love the engine roar. Or at least I did.
    Just do what I'm doing, buying a V10 Audi R8 - proper sound!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,456
    Rob7Lee said:
    WSS said:
    I know it's nothing but the sound of the cars is bloody boring. Not far off from Formula E. I know it's about the racing but I love the engine roar. Or at least I did.
    Just do what I'm doing, buying a V10 Audi R8 - proper sound!

    A Carrera S with sports exhaust isn't too shabby for a flat 6 :)
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,690
    Mercedes are smashing these new regs 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,384
    Yeah Mercedes look in a class of their own. Will be interesting to see how long this lasts before they get caught up by Ferrari and McLaren. 

    Sounds like we aren't seeing the Rotisserie Rear Wing for a few more rounds according to Lewis 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,971
    I think they're partly only so far ahead because they delivered a lot of stuff to Mclaren so late. It might not happen quick enough for this year but I think Mclaren will catch them
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,578
    All depends what they do with the engine stuff too, could see them knocked down a peg or two in the summer
  • Stuart_the_Red
    Stuart_the_Red Posts: 1,978
    sam3110 said:
    All depends what they do with the engine stuff too, could see them knocked down a peg or two in the summer
    By which time they’ll be so far ahead they only have to manage the remainder of the season to become DWC and CWC.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,578
    Stuart_the_Red said:
    sam3110 said:
    All depends what they do with the engine stuff too, could see them knocked down a peg or two in the summer
    By which time they’ll be so far ahead they only have to manage the remainder of the season to become DWC and CWC.
    I hope not, all depends on how many of the early circuits are suited to their car, and if they can keep their noses clean all season. China's first corner for instance is nearly always carnage, and a fast starting Ferrari could be the firecracker in the phone box. Kimi is young and fearless so don't be surprised if he tries to sling one up the inside one race and takes them both out

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,578
    Saudi and Bahrain cancelled apparently. Will be interesting to see if they try and shoehorn them in elsewhere, or if we're having a month long break early
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,626
    edited March 13
    Shame... Put aside where they're located (cancelling makes sense) and they're two really good races on the Calendar
    Hope that F2 / F3 can find something new, otherwise there is a huge gap between Australia and Monaco
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,690
    sam3110 said:
    Stuart_the_Red said:
    sam3110 said:
    All depends what they do with the engine stuff too, could see them knocked down a peg or two in the summer
    By which time they’ll be so far ahead they only have to manage the remainder of the season to become DWC and CWC.
    Kimi is young and fearless so don't be surprised if he tries to sling one up the inside 

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,626
    That was a fun Sprint race, great battle at the beginning between Russell and Hamilton
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,841
    As someone who follows F1 but not anywhere near to the extent as some people on here, is the 5 week gap between Japan and Miami going to help the other teams close the gap to Mercedes? That's a long time to try and get cars a bit more up to speed.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,626
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    As someone who follows F1 but not anywhere near to the extent as some people on here, is the 5 week gap between Japan and Miami going to help the other teams close the gap to Mercedes? That's a long time to try and get cars a bit more up to speed.
    Been wondering this myself, but to sit on the fence... "Who knows"... You'd think so, but equally Bahrain would have been a great track for bringing upgrades surely as its used for testing as well so they'd surely have "data" as a comparison in these cars - Be surprised if there arent a ton of upgrades for Miami
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,626
    Nice bit of drama in Q3 there, great job from Kimi though... Youngest ever Pole Position
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,384
    Mega job from Kimi , now to sort his starts 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,874
    edited March 14
    Get the impression the Mercs are just out of reach but honestly this year really shows me why Hamilton is such a talent. Not to mention these cars suit him more.

    To even be matching Leclerc so far (who is in his prime age wise)…. When Lewis is 41?

    Look at what happened with Schumacher and Rosberg? Nico schooled him and he wasn’t as good as Leclerc.

    So either Leclerc isn’t as good as some think or we forgot how good Lewis is last season.

    Likewise - the regs last time favoured Max. In reality now he is barely beating Isak bloody Hadjar
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,384
    Think the new regs have revitalised Lewis , he's just so much more comfortable with these cars. 

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