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Chat GPT and other AI guff
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I dont disagree while trump is in charge but will send a message for the post trump world. And with the world how it is taking some action is good for the old mental health if nothing else.2
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I'm not so sure about that. Anthropic are showing some bottle by suing the DOJ. I reckon the DOJ won't want that to go to court, might be embarrassing for the Fox News presenter who now conducts wars. What's more I've heard a lot of people out here (both commentariat and friends) saying the EU should offer Anthropic a good home.Leroy Ambrose said:It won't make a jot of difference. They're literally all bending the knee to Trump. They can't survive without it.
This will sound very untechy (and I guess it is) but when a mate pointed me towards Claude about 15 months ago I quickly felt it "behaves" in a more ..mature way than ChatGPT. The adult in the AI room. It's still the only one I pay for, although I know that one should always test it against other models.1 -
Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.1 -
Our CFO proudly boasted in a budget call that he took the deck someone had submitted, put it into Co-Pilot and got it to give him 20 questions to ask. This is a CFO of a major professional services company who will be on c.£300k-£400k a year.cantersaddick said:Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.
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The deck was probably produced by Co-Pilot in the first place.Huskaris said:
Our CFO proudly boasted in a budget call that he took the deck someone had submitted, put it into Co-Pilot and got it to give him 20 questions to ask. This is a CFO of a major professional services company who will be on c.£300k-£400k a year.cantersaddick said:Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.
I couldn't believe it
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I’m admittedly biased, but I absolutely hate AI. I work as a web developer for a blue chip company and my role has now shifted to essentially “optimising code for AI”. Everything has to be for AI now, make the site easier to read for AI crawlers, make it so AI is more likely to show us in chat responses, build with AI-first in mind, etc.
I’m in my mid 20’s and I see my friends unable to compose thoughts without first checking in with ChatGPT, I see my parents treat it as gospel without every checking any sources, I see my partner complete her master thesis without learning anything as AI can do it all. I see people manipulate AI to feed into their own delusions and begin ostracising themselves.My company has just sacked thousands of people, as human beings are now seen as obsolete in the corporate world. I’m not even going to get into the environmental factors.We’re never going to get it back in the bottle, but I feel like I’m in the start of a disaster movie; trying to tell people what’s going on but they’re too occupied giggling a silly images they’ve generated on ChatGPT.11 -
Agreed with all of this and that its not going anywhere. It could go one of 2 ways.ElliotCAFC said:I’m admittedly biased, but I absolutely hate AI. I work as a web developer for a blue chip company and my role has now shifted to essentially “optimising code for AI”. Everything has to be for AI now, make the site easier to read for AI crawlers, make it so AI is more likely to show us in chat responses, build with AI-first in mind, etc.
I’m in my mid 20’s and I see my friends unable to compose thoughts without first checking in with ChatGPT, I see my parents treat it as gospel without every checking any sources, I see my partner complete her master thesis without learning anything as AI can do it all. I see people manipulate AI to feed into their own delusions and begin ostracising themselves.My company has just sacked thousands of people, as human beings are now seen as obsolete in the corporate world. I’m not even going to get into the environmental factors.We’re never going to get it back in the bottle, but I feel like I’m in the start of a disaster movie; trying to tell people what’s going on but they’re too occupied giggling a silly images they’ve generated on ChatGPT.
1) it could be used to transform the world as we know it. To reduce the demands on humans, reduce working hours and increase leisure time across the board. It could be a great factor in distributing resources more fairly both nationally and in the world. It could be supported with an ethical transition into the new world that allows people to be creative and pursue passions and make the world a better place while AI does the hard and mundane.
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2) A very small number of people will accumulate more wealth than can be consumed in ten thousand lifetimes and everyone else will become effective slaves to them.
Sadly with the way politics and the media/social media is it will only go one way.7 -
Every single c suite role will be doing the same, and shouting from the rooftops about it. It's not because they're proud of what they're doing - it's because they've all been told, in no uncertain terms, to pimp it out to the poors to try and alleviate their natural fear that it will take their job ('if Charlie Bigbucks is using it, then everyone at the company should be').Huskaris said:
Our CFO proudly boasted in a budget call that he took the deck someone had submitted, put it into Co-Pilot and got it to give him 20 questions to ask. This is a CFO of a major professional services company who will be on c.£300k-£400k a year.cantersaddick said:Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.
I couldn't believe it
It's an entirely parasitical relationship. AI is the largest ponzi scheme in history - literally the entire global economy is predicated on growth based on some amorphous concept of 'true' artifical intelligence being achieved 'soon'. It requires an endless stream of suckers, terrified that their job will be wiped out, getting on board and using it like the good little symbiotic drones they are.
My company is taking probably the best approach I've seen so far, but even there people are absolutely terrified of it under the surface. I said a while back that companies will start to hire back the teams of people they fired early on because they thought that a glorified chatbot could replace their customer service function (or lied about believing it so they could ensure they kept pace with competitors so their share price didn't suffer) - but that there would be a much, much deeper wave of cuts later down the line (3-5 years) as internal functions are replaced wholesale by shit AI versions (HR, Software development, legal services, project management etc). You can now add to that a further trough - probably in 18 months or so - where companies will have to make huge cuts as the ponzi starts to collapse. That will usher in the deepest recession since the great depression - and it'll be global.
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Even if they did realise, I don't think it would make much of a difference. I'm sure 90% of people realise what's happening with the environment and we are still sleepwalking towards disaster.ElliotCAFC said:We’re never going to get it back in the bottle, but I feel like I’m in the start of a disaster movie; trying to tell people what’s going on but they’re too occupied giggling a silly images they’ve generated on ChatGPT.
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I fully understand and agree with the all the negatives cited and the likely negative consequences. I'm actually surprised, unless I've missed it, that nobody has mentioned the current court case against Google Gemini
Google faces lawsuit after Gemini chatbot allegedly instructed man to kill himself
If you have't read it, I warn you, it's the worst thing you'll read today.
But I would like to say that on many occasions, re fairly mundane matters, I've said to myself "Thank you, Claude". Tasks that require a certain amount of work and I don't quite know how to, or just don't want to start. Claude accelerates me into them. Tasks that require some research (the answers need to be scrutinised of course). Just things where I find myself wondering, how does this affect me, often from the savings and investments topic. Things which I vaguely understand (e.g. gilts, or double taxation treaties) and realise that I could fully understand. Using Excel sheets for mundane things can drive me nuts, Claude can build the sheet for me.
So I find that it can be really helpful in daily life but that doesn't mitigate all the problems and dangers described on the thread. It should have been subject to much stricter regulation but it was never going to be possible at this stage. The genie was out of the box back in 2005 or so when Google and Zuckerberg were allowed to make themselves fabulously rich by stealing other people's content and flogging advertising around it; and most of the world still told itself that Google was a "tech company" who invented this brilliant search engine thing we can all use for free.
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'kin well Leroy. Can't you go back to posting about throwing up after banging a chick at a Christmas Party.Leroy Ambrose said:
Every single c suite role will be doing the same, and shouting from the rooftops about it. It's not because they're proud of what they're doing - it's because they've all been told, in no uncertain terms, to pimp it out to the poors to try and alleviate their natural fear that it will take their job ('if Charlie Bigbucks is using it, then everyone at the company should be').Huskaris said:
Our CFO proudly boasted in a budget call that he took the deck someone had submitted, put it into Co-Pilot and got it to give him 20 questions to ask. This is a CFO of a major professional services company who will be on c.£300k-£400k a year.cantersaddick said:Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.
I couldn't believe it
It's an entirely parasitical relationship. AI is the largest ponzi scheme in history - literally the entire global economy is predicated on growth based on some amorphous concept of 'true' artifical intelligence being achieved 'soon'. It requires an endless stream of suckers, terrified that their job will be wiped out, getting on board and using it like the good little symbiotic drones they are.
My company is taking probably the best approach I've seen so far, but even there people are absolutely terrified of it under the surface. I said a while back that companies will start to hire back the teams of people they fired early on because they thought that a glorified chatbot could replace their customer service function (or lied about believing it so they could ensure they kept pace with competitors so their share price didn't suffer) - but that there would be a much, much deeper wave of cuts later down the line (3-5 years) as internal functions are replaced wholesale by shit AI versions (HR, Software development, legal services, project management etc). You can now add to that a further trough - probably in 18 months or so - where companies will have to make huge cuts as the ponzi starts to collapse. That will usher in the deepest recession since the great depression - and it'll be global.
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Sorry mate, on the bright side I'd be surprised if we all make it to 3-5 years anyway, so there's that 😏2
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Google AI's suggestion for an away pub!3
