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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Preston Nth End: Saturday 11th April 2026: KO 15:00

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,592
    fenaddick said:
    I didn't like our last 20 minutes tactics at all, as we ended up with 3 strikers ( plus Berry later on) in the box, plus Lloyd Jones at times, but had nobody to create anything. And our 4 attackers just got in each other's way.

    Plus it left us so vulnerable to the counter attack, a better team would have finished us off with 15 to go. It felt like the desperation tactics you used in added time, not when you have plenty of time to go.

    I was really surprised TC was replaced with Leaburn,  as it took any the only player with some pace.

    And why isn't Chambers playing wide like a normal wingback? Instead he's sitting on midfield,  pinging it around, but providing little width. Or defensive cover down his side.
    To create the space TC exploited in the first 15 mins today and first half on Monday. Also allows us to play two midfielders high up the pitch. It won’t always work but I do like it 
    But it leaves a real gap down our left, which opponents are exploiting. 

    Who defends attacks down our left? It should be the wing back plus TC or Bell, instead nobody seems to know their roles.
  • ThrappersAddick
    ThrappersAddick Posts: 74
    edited April 11
    My kids couldn't make it today, at 20 minutes in I texted my eldest to say that they were missing a great game. 

    Probably the most Muppet thing to say. 

    We are just slow and unimaginative. Nearly every team I've seen us play again at this season look so much sharper than us - even the bad teams. 

    I knew this season was going to be grind, and I don't mind losing, I was expecting a shit season but grinding out enough to stay up - but I fear we have almost given up. 
  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 446
    Off_it said:
    That's it then. Blown it. We're down. We're not going to get another point all season, whilst a couple of the teams below us are already "safe". White flags going up all over the show.

    At least that's what I'm reading on this thread. But then I look at the table and wonder if any of the teams below us would love to swap places with us still ....... hmmm.

    Grow some bollocks you ridiculously weak and spineless bunch.
    Maybe you should do the team talk , cos it’s all our fault and not the players who have lost 5/6 at home right ?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,653
    fenaddick said:
    I didn't like our last 20 minutes tactics at all, as we ended up with 3 strikers ( plus Berry later on) in the box, plus Lloyd Jones at times, but had nobody to create anything. And our 4 attackers just got in each other's way.

    Plus it left us so vulnerable to the counter attack, a better team would have finished us off with 15 to go. It felt like the desperation tactics you used in added time, not when you have plenty of time to go.

    I was really surprised TC was replaced with Leaburn,  as it took any the only player with some pace.

    And why isn't Chambers playing wide like a normal wingback? Instead he's sitting on midfield,  pinging it around, but providing little width. Or defensive cover down his side.
    To create the space TC exploited in the first 15 mins today and first half on Monday. Also allows us to play two midfielders high up the pitch. It won’t always work but I do like it 
    But it leaves a real gap down our left, which opponents are exploiting. 

    Who defends attacks down our left? It should be the wing back plus TC or Bell, instead nobody seems to know their roles.
    Well Chambers needs to be quicker getting back out wide. Bell looks knackered too which doesn’t help. It does show how much defensive work on the left Doc usually does too
  • MrBurns said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 
    Oxford have Wednesday to play and Millwall last game of the season. If Millwall have playoffs secured they will rest players for that game  
    Thanks. That has really cheered me up!

    All we can hope is Millwall want to go into the play-offs in good form and so do put out a strong team and try to get a result.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,276
    gmantaxi said:
    Off_it said:
    That's it then. Blown it. We're down. We're not going to get another point all season, whilst a couple of the teams below us are already "safe". White flags going up all over the show.

    At least that's what I'm reading on this thread. But then I look at the table and wonder if any of the teams below us would love to swap places with us still ....... hmmm.

    Grow some bollocks you ridiculously weak and spineless bunch.
    Maybe you should do the team talk , cos it’s all our fault and not the players who have lost 5/6 at home right ?
    Said absolutely nobody
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,219
    edited April 11
    MrBurns said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 
    Oxford have Wednesday to play and Millwall last game of the season. If Millwall have playoffs secured they will rest players for that game  
    Thanks. That has really cheered me up!

    All we can hope is Millwall want to go into the play-offs in good form and so do put out a strong team and try to get a result.
    If Wrexham win tomorrow, they're only 6-pts from Millwall and sit in 7th...
    Milwall cannot afford to relax at the moment, especially as they've now failed to win their last two
  • mendonca said:
    We'll be okay, have you seen Portsmouth's run-in?

    😮
    Beating Middlesbrough isn't the end of the world, given how they've fallen off a cliff with their promotion push
    But just need to hope that this is more of a flash in the pan for Portsmouth rather than rejuvination
    Pompey play Leicester next week when we play Sheff Wed. They also play their game in hand (against Ipswich) this coming Tuesday. 

    If we lose next Sat just hope to God that Pompey dont beat Leicester otherwise we will be in big trouble.

    And Oxford's last 2 matches are against Sheff Wed & Millwall. 
    Assuming Portsmouth lose to Ipswich, wouldn't it be better for Leicester to win their game at Portsmouth?

    We still need 3 teams to finish below us.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,617
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    They beat Watford today, Pompey won at Boro. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Oxford could beat one of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall especially if the latter are already confirmed in the play offs and rest players or don't bust a gut. I don't think it's likely and I think we will be ok but I certainly wouldn't rule anything out.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,276
    edited April 11
    Off_it said:
    That's it then. Blown it. We're down. We're not going to get another point all season, whilst a couple of the teams below us are already "safe". White flags going up all over the show.

    At least that's what I'm reading on this thread. But then I look at the table and wonder if any of the teams below us would love to swap places with us still ....... hmmm.

    Grow some bollocks you ridiculously weak and spineless bunch.
    What a charming man you are . 
    Thank you. I like your Christmas film reviews too.

    (Edit: genuinely - that isn't meant to sound sarcastic)

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,653
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    They beat Watford today, Pompey won at Boro. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Oxford could beat one of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall especially if the latter are already confirmed in the play offs and rest players or don't bust a gut. I don't think it's likely and I think we will be ok but I certainly wouldn't rule anything out.
    Of course, I wasn’t saying it isn’t possible I just wonder which Damo thinks is most likely 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,647
    edited April 11
    A hard fought but scrappy game that could have  gone either way. It went their way because they had more speed and skill up front. In fact, if they'd taken their chances it could have been by a bigger margin. I think their second goal is really instructive as to where most of the teams in this league are better than us. We give the ball away sloppily and they have two or three players haring up the pitch. Not only do they end up with a capable goalscorer up the pitch, but they have options as well. When we inherit the ball like that it either goes to a slow coach who gets caught, or it goes to Campbell who can't shoot and gets isolated. If we survive this season, we badly need an injection of skill and pace up front.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,250
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    What a bizarre and pretty pointless comment. Every chance they could beat one of those. Pompey won at Boro today and Barnsley relegated us winning at 2nd placed Brentford in 2020. 

    The parallel with 2020 on our part is that we got so close to the line, but not over it, with so much to spare and have forgotten to actually bother with finishing the job. 
     
  • Bod
    Bod Posts: 251
    edited April 11
    Without doubt one of the most disappointing games of the season, we could have been 3 up by the time we scored our first- but we weren't and our lack of goalscoring nous cost us massively in the end. Unlike Norwich who were a good side Preston were average and were there for the taking- and we didn't that's very concerning.
    The team have to battle their arses off and give everything in those remaining 4 games- I won't hear of the R word!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,219
    edited April 11
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    They beat Watford today, Pompey won at Boro. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Oxford could beat one of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall especially if the latter are already confirmed in the play offs and rest players or don't bust a gut. I don't think it's likely and I think we will be ok but I certainly wouldn't rule anything out.
    Its the Championship, such an unpredictable Division and is amusing that people are talking about the realms of possibility that our rivals could get results against high fliers... But we cant suddenly get a similar result ourselves against Ipswich, Hull or Swansea... We're seeing the typical over-reaction from the usuals from this season, that those below us will suddenly put in the sort of form that should have seen them fighting for the title, whilst its all over for us.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,653
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    What a bizarre and pretty pointless comment. Every chance they could beat one of those. Pompey won at Boro today and Barnsley relegated us winning at 2nd placed Brentford in 2020. 

    The parallel with 2020 on our part is that we got so close to the line, but not over it, with so much to spare and have forgotten to actually bother with finishing the job. 
     
    Again, I’m just curious about the answer. I am not saying it won’t happen. I think they could probably sneak a result at Derby
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,513
    edited April 11
    Godden should have started with dykes
    fevrier impressed
    carey should have come off earlier for maybe fullah
    doc was our best player 

    agreed with all that say we should start more attacking, although we did look open towards the end 

    think we were a bit unlucky not to get a draw 
  • Charlton and on
    Charlton and on Posts: 1,107
    MrBurns said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 
    Oxford have Wednesday to play and Millwall last game of the season. If Millwall have playoffs secured they will rest players for that game  
    Thanks. That has really cheered me up!

    All we can hope is Millwall want to go into the play-offs in good form and so do put out a strong team and try to get a result.
    Even if they did. I assume we will get at least two points from the next four games. 

    Find it difficult to believe that Wednesday are a given for Oxford but not us. Could argue Swansea will be on the beach and Hull resting players for the play offs.

    None of us know but it seems the doom has set in when we've still got six teams below us.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,035
    edited April 11
    Will try and analyse in more detail later but zero points at home against Preston, Bristol C, Norwich and Wrexham is completely inexcusable at this point in the season. 

    Even I didn’t predict that and I’m always on the more negative side.

    I’m sticking to what I have consistently said for weeks that we will roll over at Sheff Weds.

    And with the gap now down to 5 points, and with the three games to come, by default I have to say we are bang in trouble.

    Its those 4 home games that are pivotal to this mess for me 
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,468
    Yet another pony team comes to The Valley and wins. Glad the last game is on TV, so I don’t have to sit through any more dross football at our home ground. 

    If we can see it, surely NJ can. 
    Don’t start TC
    Always start Godden if possible 
    Carey is invisible, don’t bother. 
    Play to go forward -  not sideways and back
    Don’t take too many touches - gamble. 
    Practice corners and FK - we are awful. 
    Wot? - Nearly every chance we created in the first half came from TC
    That’s why he is better as an impact sub. 

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,523
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 
    Oxford play Sheff Wed at home & go to Millwall on the final day. That's 6 points right there.

    Just like in 19/20 a promotion chasing team will hand a relegation threatened team all 3 points. Even more so because its Millwall & they would love to send us down.  


  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,250
    I’m getting really pissed off. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,991
    We’re in the proverbial .  Not a surprise really - pity that next week now becomes really important 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,219
    Yet another pony team comes to The Valley and wins. Glad the last game is on TV, so I don’t have to sit through any more dross football at our home ground. 

    If we can see it, surely NJ can. 
    Don’t start TC
    Always start Godden if possible 
    Carey is invisible, don’t bother. 
    Play to go forward -  not sideways and back
    Don’t take too many touches - gamble. 
    Practice corners and FK - we are awful. 
    Wot? - Nearly every chance we created in the first half came from TC
    That’s why he is better as an impact sub. 
    Sorry... But... Wot? - You've lost me... Certainly based off the game today, where he was clearly our best player first half
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,617
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    They beat Watford today, Pompey won at Boro. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Oxford could beat one of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall especially if the latter are already confirmed in the play offs and rest players or don't bust a gut. I don't think it's likely and I think we will be ok but I certainly wouldn't rule anything out.
    Its the Championship, such an unpredictable Division and is amusing that people are talking about the realms of possibility that our rivals could get results against high fliers... But we cant suddenly get a similar result ourselves against Ipswich, Hull or Swansea... We're seeing the typical over-reaction from the usuals from this season, that those below us suddenly put in the sort of form that should have seen them fighting for the title, whilst its all over for us.
    Note that I said I think we will be ok and I would'nt rule out us getting a win against Ipswich, Hull or Swansea but current form suggests otherwise. Hopefully we will win at Hillsborough and we can all take a deep breath and relax but until we pick up some more points then we are definitely looking over and shoulder and praying.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,323
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    They beat Watford today, Pompey won at Boro. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Oxford could beat one of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall especially if the latter are already confirmed in the play offs and rest players or don't bust a gut. I don't think it's likely and I think we will be ok but I certainly wouldn't rule anything out.
    Its the Championship, such an unpredictable Division and is amusing that people are talking about the realms of possibility that our rivals could get results against high fliers... But we cant suddenly get a similar result ourselves against Ipswich, Hull or Swansea... We're seeing the typical over-reaction from the usuals from this season, that those below us will suddenly put in the sort of form that should have seen them fighting for the title, whilst its all over for us.
    Oxford are 8th in the form table in fairness. 
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,164
    If Coady is back available next week....is Nathan going to go back to defensive play and hope for a break or go for it like we did in the first 20 today.... I haven't got a scooby but we have to get something next week. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,653
    Croydon said:
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    They beat Watford today, Pompey won at Boro. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Oxford could beat one of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall especially if the latter are already confirmed in the play offs and rest players or don't bust a gut. I don't think it's likely and I think we will be ok but I certainly wouldn't rule anything out.
    Its the Championship, such an unpredictable Division and is amusing that people are talking about the realms of possibility that our rivals could get results against high fliers... But we cant suddenly get a similar result ourselves against Ipswich, Hull or Swansea... We're seeing the typical over-reaction from the usuals from this season, that those below us will suddenly put in the sort of form that should have seen them fighting for the title, whilst its all over for us.
    Oxford are 8th in the form table in fairness. 
    And over the last 10 we are better than Pompey and Leicester which is all that’s needed
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,219
    edited April 11
    Croydon said:
    fenaddick said:
    4 to go, 5 above the drop. Highly unlikely Oxford win 50% of their games. Even more unlikely that Leicester win 75%.

    We should still get a couple more points too. You get points in unexpected places in football and sometimes lose when you thought you might win. 

    I hope the players have more character than the bed wetters on here. 

    Don’t agree with this part. Think they are more than capable of that
    If we presume they beat Wednesday which of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall do you think they beat? 
    They beat Watford today, Pompey won at Boro. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Oxford could beat one of Derby, Wrexham or Millwall especially if the latter are already confirmed in the play offs and rest players or don't bust a gut. I don't think it's likely and I think we will be ok but I certainly wouldn't rule anything out.
    Its the Championship, such an unpredictable Division and is amusing that people are talking about the realms of possibility that our rivals could get results against high fliers... But we cant suddenly get a similar result ourselves against Ipswich, Hull or Swansea... We're seeing the typical over-reaction from the usuals from this season, that those below us will suddenly put in the sort of form that should have seen them fighting for the title, whilst its all over for us.
    Oxford are 8th in the form table in fairness. 
    In fairness, the last game we won we went with a Defence of Gough - Coady - Gillesphey...
    Doesn't really matter what has already happened - Just got to focus on what comes next
  • Simple, we do not get outplayed we get out scored.