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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,399
    CafcSteve said:
    What’s everyone’s thoughts now on who’s lived up to expectation from The Summer?
    Quite telling that probably the two most successful summer signings have been Carey and Bell, and they were both free transfers. For a variety of reasons, pretty much everyone we paid money for last summer has been disappointing, although i don't think Kaminski has been as bad as some people make out.

    Two of them (Apter/Olaofe) were loaned out within 6 months. Knibbs was injured for ages, JRC rarely given a chance and Kelman has looked ok at times, but is clearly out of favour. Not sure if we paid any fee for Burke but the less said about him the better.

    The one bright spark was the January signing of Sichenje. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learnt here moving forward. Stop overpaying for league one shit and look abroad for bargains.

    Another positive has been the loan signings. For a manager who has said in the past he's not a fan of loans, i think Jones has done pretty well with loan recruitment.
    Also shows that his reluctance at taking loans is a hindrance.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,076
    Think we’ve learnt from this summer you either go for hidden gems across boarders due to price, experienced done it before championship players or L1 gambles that come at a very affordable cost. 


  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,788
    Think we’ve learnt from this summer you either go for hidden gems across boarders due to price, experienced done it before championship players or L1 gambles that come at a very affordable cost. 


    I'd still look at the domestic market for any interesting free agents and a couple of loans but anyone costing a fee I'd be targeting abroad. Feels like L1 is getting quite expensive to target for what we've got out of it. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,379
    CafcSteve said:
    What’s everyone’s thoughts now on who’s lived up to expectation from The Summer?
    Quite telling that probably the two most successful summer signings have been Carey and Bell, and they were both free transfers. For a variety of reasons, pretty much everyone we paid money for last summer has been disappointing, although i don't think Kaminski has been as bad as some people make out.

    Two of them (Apter/Olaofe) were loaned out within 6 months. Knibbs was injured for ages, JRC rarely given a chance and Kelman has looked ok at times, but is clearly out of favour. Not sure if we paid any fee for Burke but the less said about him the better.

    The one bright spark was the January signing of Sichenje. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learnt here moving forward. Stop overpaying for league one shit and look abroad for bargains.

    Another positive has been the loan signings. For a manager who has said in the past he's not a fan of loans, i think Jones has done pretty well with loan recruitment.
    In what way is it telling?
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,436
    Buy cheap shit buy twice
    #undisclosed 
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,443
    Perhaps we should try putting an advert in Exchange and Mart, or Loot.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,005
    cabbles said:
    Kaminski - okay at this level.  If we were pushing for promotion I think we need better.  Should be given another season to see if he can improve 

    Bree - decent addition at first and I thought we’d found a gem.  Soon dipped and never really got back to the heights of those early games.  I don’t think he would’ve added much more had we been able to keep him 

    Clarke - done well.  Has had a couple of difficult moments and unfortunately been on the end of some good chances you’d want to fall to a forward, but I think he’s really added something.  Not sure what his wage demands are, but I wouldn’t be adverse to keeping him if the price is right 

    Chambers - good addition.  Young, learning his craft, but the first player we’ve had able to play at left wing back since Edwards’ injury and do it to an okay ability.  Not sure he’s an option for next season 

    Burke - May be a talented player but we have to stop this weird fascination with spending money on players with long term injury records.  I thought with the cheat code Aneke leaving we’d finally learnt our lesson.  And then comes along another high paid sick note.  Needs to be moved on in the summer if possible.

    Schenje - too early to tell.  Hopefully an athletic and strong presence needed at the back 

    Bell - a very good signing.  The team have looked poorer for his absence, has also managed to perform okay at LWB when asked to step in.  This has probably been our best acquisition imo 

    Hernandez - I know he was only brought in for short term cover and thank god that was the case.  His sum contribution was that handball at Wrexham.  Waste of time, glad he came and went quickly 

    Coady - Clever addition.  We’ve benefited from his experience and leadership.  Bit dubious of him playing in the home games given the glacial pace of Docherty, Coventry and Carey etc, but overall a good signing.  I’m not sure he’s worth pursuing for next season 

    JRC - we all thought we’d seen glimpses of something different in our midfield when he finally broke into the team over Xmas.  He looked comfortable on the ball and could offer up stuff that looked beyond the likes of Docherty.  However, he’s never really grasped the opportunity with both hands, and something must be missing given how little we see him.  I expect he’ll be here next season, being used in a similar capacity 

    Knibbs - the injury has made this one trickier to evaluate, but I think he falls into the bracket of top end league one player who hasn’t/won’t be able to make the step up.  We’ll have to see, but I think he’s another player that isn’t good enough at this level that we’re now having to stick with based on contract length and hangover from last summer’s business 

    Kelman - same as Knibbs.  I actually quite like him, and have always felt he’s a clever player, struggling in a team that offers little service.  The jury is still out.  Could he do better in a quicker team that is stronger on the ball, or have got someone who ultimately can’t deliver at the latter.  For me he definitely gets another chance next season 

    Carey - fair play for all the goals, that is a skill and some of them have been really well taken (Ipswich, BBurn at home and Leicester and Soton away).  However, I just don’t rate him.  If he doesn’t score he’s anonymous and I think he’s too slow and the game just passes him by at this level.  He’s pretty much a guaranteed starter which doesn’t help as he knows he’s unlikely to be dropped.  He’s going to be here next year, I just hope that’s as a player on the bench, not starting 

    Apter - showed a lot of early promise, but let’s not kid ourselves.  Gone back down into league one and struggled.  We gambled, but it’s probably not going to work.  Still young, so can’t be written off completely, plus he’s not a wing back, so played out of position, but I can’t see him being part of a solid championship outfit 

    Tanto - same as Apter but given his age, he’s not up to it.  Needs to be moved on imo 

    Dykes - good, effective short term signing.  His game isn’t pretty, but given his goals and contributions, he’s delivered.  Not sure I’d want him leading the line next season, but grateful for what he’s done in the short term

    Fevrier - glimpses of skill on the ball, but signed as back up and it looks like he’s a league one player.  I think if we saw more of him, we’d quickly realise his limitations 

    I think that’s everyone; but overall our transfer business has been a 6/10 for me.  Overall the contributions from Kaminski (just - I know he’s a liability), Bell, Coady, Chambers, Clarke and Dykes, probably Carey (his goals) have just about been enough to tip it above 50% in terms of success and impact 

    We will need a lot better in the summer if we stay up and can compete next season 
    How could you forget Roussillon?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,271
    CafcSteve said:
    What’s everyone’s thoughts now on who’s lived up to expectation from The Summer?
    Quite telling that probably the two most successful summer signings have been Carey and Bell, and they were both free transfers. For a variety of reasons, pretty much everyone we paid money for last summer has been disappointing, although i don't think Kaminski has been as bad as some people make out.

    Two of them (Apter/Olaofe) were loaned out within 6 months. Knibbs was injured for ages, JRC rarely given a chance and Kelman has looked ok at times, but is clearly out of favour. Not sure if we paid any fee for Burke but the less said about him the better.

    The one bright spark was the January signing of Sichenje. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learnt here moving forward. Stop overpaying for league one shit and look abroad for bargains.

    Another positive has been the loan signings. For a manager who has said in the past he's not a fan of loans, i think Jones has done pretty well with loan recruitment.
    In what way is it telling?
    I'm sure you don't really need me to spell it out for you but i will anyway. We spent about 12m on signings and pretty much all of it was wasted. Our 2 most successful signings who will both likely end up top 3 in the POTY voting were free.

    The recruitment team have to do far far better this summer. Sichenje's signing in January was a step in the right direction.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,581
    CafcSteve said:
    What’s everyone’s thoughts now on who’s lived up to expectation from The Summer?
    Quite telling that probably the two most successful summer signings have been Carey and Bell, and they were both free transfers. For a variety of reasons, pretty much everyone we paid money for last summer has been disappointing, although i don't think Kaminski has been as bad as some people make out.

    Two of them (Apter/Olaofe) were loaned out within 6 months. Knibbs was injured for ages, JRC rarely given a chance and Kelman has looked ok at times, but is clearly out of favour. Not sure if we paid any fee for Burke but the less said about him the better.

    The one bright spark was the January signing of Sichenje. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learnt here moving forward. Stop overpaying for league one shit and look abroad for bargains.

    Another positive has been the loan signings. For a manager who has said in the past he's not a fan of loans, i think Jones has done pretty well with loan recruitment.
    In what way is it telling?
    I'm sure you don't really need me to spell it out for you but i will anyway. We spent about 12m on signings and pretty much all of it was wasted. Our 2 most successful signings who will both likely end up top 3 in the POTY voting were free.

    The recruitment team have to do far far better this summer. Sichenje's signing in January was a step in the right direction.
    It’s going to be far easier for us this summer. We started late because of the play offs and realistically no established championship players or even the best of league 1 wanted to sign for us because they thought we’d go down. 

    This year we will have been able to prepare much earlier, Chapple has been here longer, and we’ve stayed up so will no longer be viewed as a huge relegation risk for a player looking to move to the championship 
  • NabySarr said:
    CafcSteve said:
    What’s everyone’s thoughts now on who’s lived up to expectation from The Summer?
    Quite telling that probably the two most successful summer signings have been Carey and Bell, and they were both free transfers. For a variety of reasons, pretty much everyone we paid money for last summer has been disappointing, although i don't think Kaminski has been as bad as some people make out.

    Two of them (Apter/Olaofe) were loaned out within 6 months. Knibbs was injured for ages, JRC rarely given a chance and Kelman has looked ok at times, but is clearly out of favour. Not sure if we paid any fee for Burke but the less said about him the better.

    The one bright spark was the January signing of Sichenje. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learnt here moving forward. Stop overpaying for league one shit and look abroad for bargains.

    Another positive has been the loan signings. For a manager who has said in the past he's not a fan of loans, i think Jones has done pretty well with loan recruitment.
    In what way is it telling?
    I'm sure you don't really need me to spell it out for you but i will anyway. We spent about 12m on signings and pretty much all of it was wasted. Our 2 most successful signings who will both likely end up top 3 in the POTY voting were free.

    The recruitment team have to do far far better this summer. Sichenje's signing in January was a step in the right direction.
    It’s going to be far easier for us this summer. We started late because of the play offs and realistically no established championship players or even the best of league 1 wanted to sign for us because they thought we’d go down. 

    This year we will have been able to prepare much earlier, Chapple has been here longer, and we’ve stayed up so will no longer be viewed as a huge relegation risk for a player looking to move to the championship 
    It won’t be easier
    we are a huge relegation risk 
    we’ve not stayed up yet 

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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,399
    edited April 20
    NabySarr said:
    CafcSteve said:
    What’s everyone’s thoughts now on who’s lived up to expectation from The Summer?
    Quite telling that probably the two most successful summer signings have been Carey and Bell, and they were both free transfers. For a variety of reasons, pretty much everyone we paid money for last summer has been disappointing, although i don't think Kaminski has been as bad as some people make out.

    Two of them (Apter/Olaofe) were loaned out within 6 months. Knibbs was injured for ages, JRC rarely given a chance and Kelman has looked ok at times, but is clearly out of favour. Not sure if we paid any fee for Burke but the less said about him the better.

    The one bright spark was the January signing of Sichenje. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learnt here moving forward. Stop overpaying for league one shit and look abroad for bargains.

    Another positive has been the loan signings. For a manager who has said in the past he's not a fan of loans, i think Jones has done pretty well with loan recruitment.
    In what way is it telling?
    I'm sure you don't really need me to spell it out for you but i will anyway. We spent about 12m on signings and pretty much all of it was wasted. Our 2 most successful signings who will both likely end up top 3 in the POTY voting were free.

    The recruitment team have to do far far better this summer. Sichenje's signing in January was a step in the right direction.
    It’s going to be far easier for us this summer. We started late because of the play offs and realistically no established championship players or even the best of league 1 wanted to sign for us because they thought we’d go down. 

    This year we will have been able to prepare much earlier, Chapple has been here longer, and we’ve stayed up so will no longer be viewed as a huge relegation risk for a player looking to move to the championship 
    Players don't care if you're a relegation risk if you're paying good money and have a release clause. Eventually you have to punch up or we will never progress, you have to offer something and we've not been a 'big' attraction for a generation.
  • We need to try to match the likes of what Coventry and Millwall have done on recruitment.  Not spent big for the Championship but both massively out performing budget.
    Last summer was woeful, this Jan was better but still not great IMO.
    Is Chappel the right man? No idea.  What's his record like? He was DoF at Luton when they went up I assume, but also when they were relegated from the Championship whilst having PL parachute payments...
  • We need to try to match the likes of what Coventry and Millwall have done on recruitment.  Not spent big for the Championship but both massively out performing budget.
    Last summer was woeful, this Jan was better but still not great IMO.
    Is Chappel the right man? No idea.  What's his record like? He was DoF at Luton when they went up I assume, but also when they were relegated from the Championship whilst having PL parachute payments...
    I think Mick Hardford is the DOF, at least he has a massive say on what happens at Luton 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,644
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,718
    be better to sign (say) two expensive players rather than spread the jam too thin by signing 4 or 5 in the hope that 2 or 3 will click .. this surely is the lesson to be learnt from last summers dealings
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,278
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,663
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    People on here saying that you have to go to the continent to get bargains are absolutely correct. Clubs of our size can’t afford to take chances with too many British born youngsters.
    Their prices are nearly always over inflated. We signed Fleming from the continent for a couple of million and sold him on for £8 million. De Norre, Ballo, Ivanovic, Derek Mazou-Sacko (outstanding MOTM performance on Saturday), Neghli, all excellent acquisitions, all with a good sell on value, bar maybe De Norre, who’s 28 now.
     You’ve got to get it right though. Gallen has been excellent with the recruitment and got a really good networking system in place apparently. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,663
    edited April 20
    CAFCTrev said:
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
    Doesn’t matter how rich your owners are if FFP are holding them back. That’s why it’s vital to make profit from player sales for clubs of our size. Rumour is young James Berylson wants to spend more than we do on players but Gallen reins him in because of FFP. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,399
    CAFCTrev said:
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
    Doesn’t matter how rich your owners are if FFP are holding them back. That’s why it’s vital to make profit from player sales for clubs of our size. Rumour is young James Berylson wants to spend more than we do on players than we do but Gallen reins him in because of FFP. 
    Vital to spend your money well too, last summer for us was a shambles. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,663
    shine166 said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
    Doesn’t matter how rich your owners are if FFP are holding them back. That’s why it’s vital to make profit from player sales for clubs of our size. Rumour is young James Berylson wants to spend more than we do on players than we do but Gallen reins him in because of FFP. 
    Vital to spend your money well too, last summer for us was a shambles. 
    Yes. There’s not much room for error. 

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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,399
    shine166 said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
    Doesn’t matter how rich your owners are if FFP are holding them back. That’s why it’s vital to make profit from player sales for clubs of our size. Rumour is young James Berylson wants to spend more than we do on players than we do but Gallen reins him in because of FFP. 
    Vital to spend your money well too, last summer for us was a shambles. 
    Yes. There’s not much room for error. 
    The tactic of signing multiple players from the lower leagues and hoping some stick, is completely misguided with the modern financial rules.
  • shine166 said:
    NabySarr said:
    CafcSteve said:
    What’s everyone’s thoughts now on who’s lived up to expectation from The Summer?
    Quite telling that probably the two most successful summer signings have been Carey and Bell, and they were both free transfers. For a variety of reasons, pretty much everyone we paid money for last summer has been disappointing, although i don't think Kaminski has been as bad as some people make out.

    Two of them (Apter/Olaofe) were loaned out within 6 months. Knibbs was injured for ages, JRC rarely given a chance and Kelman has looked ok at times, but is clearly out of favour. Not sure if we paid any fee for Burke but the less said about him the better.

    The one bright spark was the January signing of Sichenje. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learnt here moving forward. Stop overpaying for league one shit and look abroad for bargains.

    Another positive has been the loan signings. For a manager who has said in the past he's not a fan of loans, i think Jones has done pretty well with loan recruitment.
    In what way is it telling?
    I'm sure you don't really need me to spell it out for you but i will anyway. We spent about 12m on signings and pretty much all of it was wasted. Our 2 most successful signings who will both likely end up top 3 in the POTY voting were free.

    The recruitment team have to do far far better this summer. Sichenje's signing in January was a step in the right direction.
    It’s going to be far easier for us this summer. We started late because of the play offs and realistically no established championship players or even the best of league 1 wanted to sign for us because they thought we’d go down. 

    This year we will have been able to prepare much earlier, Chapple has been here longer, and we’ve stayed up so will no longer be viewed as a huge relegation risk for a player looking to move to the championship 
    Players don't care if you're a relegation risk if you're paying good money and have a release clause. Eventually you have to punch up or we will never progress, you have to offer something and we've not been a 'big' attraction for a generation.
    They will care about style of play and how they are going to be utilised. 

    You’ll be hard pressed to find a ball playing midfielder that looks at how we play and go yeah that’s what want. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,399
    shine166 said:
    NabySarr said:
    CafcSteve said:
    What’s everyone’s thoughts now on who’s lived up to expectation from The Summer?
    Quite telling that probably the two most successful summer signings have been Carey and Bell, and they were both free transfers. For a variety of reasons, pretty much everyone we paid money for last summer has been disappointing, although i don't think Kaminski has been as bad as some people make out.

    Two of them (Apter/Olaofe) were loaned out within 6 months. Knibbs was injured for ages, JRC rarely given a chance and Kelman has looked ok at times, but is clearly out of favour. Not sure if we paid any fee for Burke but the less said about him the better.

    The one bright spark was the January signing of Sichenje. Hopefully there is a lesson to be learnt here moving forward. Stop overpaying for league one shit and look abroad for bargains.

    Another positive has been the loan signings. For a manager who has said in the past he's not a fan of loans, i think Jones has done pretty well with loan recruitment.
    In what way is it telling?
    I'm sure you don't really need me to spell it out for you but i will anyway. We spent about 12m on signings and pretty much all of it was wasted. Our 2 most successful signings who will both likely end up top 3 in the POTY voting were free.

    The recruitment team have to do far far better this summer. Sichenje's signing in January was a step in the right direction.
    It’s going to be far easier for us this summer. We started late because of the play offs and realistically no established championship players or even the best of league 1 wanted to sign for us because they thought we’d go down. 

    This year we will have been able to prepare much earlier, Chapple has been here longer, and we’ve stayed up so will no longer be viewed as a huge relegation risk for a player looking to move to the championship 
    Players don't care if you're a relegation risk if you're paying good money and have a release clause. Eventually you have to punch up or we will never progress, you have to offer something and we've not been a 'big' attraction for a generation.
    They will care about style of play and how they are going to be utilised. 

    You’ll be hard pressed to find a ball playing midfielder that looks at how we play and go yeah that’s what want. 
    Jones talks that game, its down to him to convince the first couple of players to buy into it and come through the door, financial rewards are probably the only way to do that initially. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,902
    Not using the loan market more last summer was a major mistake. We badly needed the quality a decent loanee could have provided, and if we needed to cough up for wages or a loan fee, then so be it. In the summer you're more likely to get real quality, the likes of Cullen and Bielik in 2018, or Gallagher in 2019.

    It sound great, spending money on players who we can develop and profit from ourselves, rather than developing someone else's player, but that depends on buying well. When you spend £10m on players, who can't get into the team, and a year later have lost value, not only are we suffering on the pitch, we're also suffering financially.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,663
    shine166 said:
    shine166 said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
    Doesn’t matter how rich your owners are if FFP are holding them back. That’s why it’s vital to make profit from player sales for clubs of our size. Rumour is young James Berylson wants to spend more than we do on players than we do but Gallen reins him in because of FFP. 
    Vital to spend your money well too, last summer for us was a shambles. 
    Yes. There’s not much room for error. 
    The tactic of signing multiple players from the lower leagues and hoping some stick, is completely misguided with the modern financial rules.
    Yep. Femi Azeez is the only one who has really worked for us in recent years and we only got him on the cheap because Reading were in the shit at the time, financially. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,644
    CAFCTrev said:
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
    OK, to put it another way - are we going to spend £10m on one player this summer?
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,581
    CAFCTrev said:
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
    OK, to put it another way - are we going to spend £10m on one player this summer?
    Unless it’s our only permanent signing probably not 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,788
    NabySarr said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    It will take a few years to emulate anything near what Coventry and Millwall have done. They’ve spent fairly decent money on players in the last few years- money we don’t have at the moment.
    Do we know how much money we have though? Our owners are supposedly fairly rich, it's not clear what their long term plan for Charlton is and ultimately how much money they are willing to chuck in to support that. 

    Judging by this season, it's not a lot.
    OK, to put it another way - are we going to spend £10m on one player this summer?
    Unless it’s our only permanent signing probably not 
    Wouldn't be surprised if we spent £5m on a CM though. 
  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,222
    Need to rethink our strategy, I would say look for championship players that are out of contract first and foremost between ages of 28-32, players that are likely not going to have too high wage demands. Like anything in football these days, easier said than done but that is the job of the people behind the scenes. 

    We need to go all in on Jones and get him what he wants in terms of player profiles, no use pussyfooting around, get players on the phone to him and see if they can align and they buy into his plan. He definitely has one and like him or not, he is a great motivator and certain players will want to play for him. 

    Touch wood, we will be seen as a more established Championship side by the bigger clubs and hopefully can tap into the London loan market early on from the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal and get a profile or two that will improve us, especially a Midfielder or two. 

    We then need to be much more diligent with where we actually spend money. As others have said, no more players with mid to long term injury records, and to be honest I would rather move away from players that NJ has coached before and just look to the future, get the players NJ needs but move away from the ex Luton band. I just don't like it. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,095
    People saying look at Coventry but how long as it taken Coventry to get a team that performed above expectations and let’s not forget they been on the championships for a number of years not had to do it coming up from league one .. Overall the windows have been very good we managed to keep our wages to 14k ( Kaminski and Coady ) and our expenditure around 12 mill .. if you add the fact we got promoted 12 months earlier then planned that changed things financially as well .. players brought in were not necessary expected to make an impression the likes of Apter was clearly brought in for the future and the same with Kelman , think it was the plan he would learn from Godden and be his replacement .. unfortunately Godden injury and  no pre season. for Kelman meant we were missing our two goalscorers .. same with Knibbs think he going to be a key player next season .. think 98% of fans all wanted Tanto and Apter to get a run in the side unfortunately they were the two who suffered the most from NJ obsession with Campbell .. Don’t think the new players have been the problem but existing players ? .. of course again we were hit with horrendous injury list mainly defenders .. or we most likey would be sitting comfortably in mid table .. going forward think we have a decent squad now it’s a case of adding 3/4 quality players .. but to archive safety is the biggest archivement this club has done ..we have 18 mill to spend this summer but still only scratching the surface ( when Winks at Leicester on 90k a week ) shows how tough and unbalanced this league is .. look at Pompey and Oxford both struggled in the second season , but I think your see a more attacking line up at home and defensive away next season .. but all we wanted was 4th from bottom and we done it .. that the first box ticked now we have to do it again slightly easier cause there 3 teams coming up who will happy with 4th from bottom ..