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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Ipswich Town: Wednesday 22nd April 2026: KO 19:45

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  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,331
    The Bell injury curse will send us down.  Out of our hands now, as there is no way what remains of our team will pick up another point.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,726
    Been here before,
    You know exactly what is going to happen.

    Charlton sleep walking into league 1

    For the love of god, we do not want Millwall to have nothing to play for in terms of position on the last day, because I see Oxford beating Sheff Wednesday.
    If we get relegated having reached 48 points with 8 games to go then NJ needs to be sacked. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,553
    Post-match on Sky:

    Nathan Jones thinks it was an even game.

    Doesn't dispute the penalty. Says we’re making too many mistakes and individual errors.

    Sounds like TC was an injury.

    Moans about the ref.

    Says we were disjointed, especially second half, because of the injuries and couldn’t be as aggressive.

    Sounds like the plan is to go at Hull early Saturday, as we did tonight. 

    Cant really argue with any of it... 
    Makes sense that we'll go at Hull early on Saturday, it’s exactly what we've done these last two home games now.
    Tend to agree - but as Golfie has pointed out, we can’t maintain it for an hour even. If we play like that from the start we need a two goal lead. Otherwise we just cannot defend it at the moment.
  • elbiglad
    elbiglad Posts: 238
    sammy391 said:
    sammy391 said:
    Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…

    NJ at fault.

    extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet again
    So what were the correct Substitutions... 
    Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?
    The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?
    A complete lack of anyone from the bench to play wide/winger and bomb along was poor. 

    Not sure if TC was injured, but don’t think he should have been taken off. Equally don’t think kelman for dykes was wise, but hardly a shock anymore. 

    A sub bench of OAP Berry, a freshly fit Godden, a freshly fit knibbs ,  and then target man dykes has given us only one dimension from the bench. 
    Would have loved to have had Fullah to bring on
    If only we had signed a winger in the summer…
    If only my Auntie had balls, she'd be my Uncle
    My point is we signed apter. Then let him out on loan 
    Apter can’t get a game for Bolton. He’s been mythologised. It was a bad signing, let’s move on. 
  • sammy391 said:
    sammy391 said:
    Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…

    NJ at fault.

    extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet again
    So what were the correct Substitutions... 
    Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?
    The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?
    A complete lack of anyone from the bench to play wide/winger and bomb along was poor. 

    Not sure if TC was injured, but don’t think he should have been taken off. Equally don’t think kelman for dykes was wise, but hardly a shock anymore. 

    A sub bench of OAP Berry, a freshly fit Godden, a freshly fit knibbs ,  and then target man dykes has given us only one dimension from the bench. 
    Would have loved to have had Fullah to bring on
    If only we had signed a winger in the summer…
    If only my Auntie had balls, she'd be my Uncle
    My point is we signed apter. Then let him out on loan 
    Show me a team that gets every signing right each summer?
    Where did I say we got it wrong? 


  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 738
    sammy391 said:
    sammy391 said:
    Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…

    NJ at fault.

    extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet again
    So what were the correct Substitutions... 
    Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?
    The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?
    A complete lack of anyone from the bench to play wide/winger and bomb along was poor. 

    Not sure if TC was injured, but don’t think he should have been taken off. Equally don’t think kelman for dykes was wise, but hardly a shock anymore. 

    A sub bench of OAP Berry, a freshly fit Godden, a freshly fit knibbs ,  and then target man dykes has given us only one dimension from the bench. 
    Would have loved to have had Fullah to bring on
    If only we had signed a winger in the summer…
    If only my Auntie had balls, she'd be my Uncle
    My point is we signed apter. Then let him out on loan 
    Show me a team that gets every signing right each summer?
    Not like we just got one signing wrong though is it? We wasted the thick end of £10 million.
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 1,010
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,837
    edited April 22
    I seem to remember a stat when we last met earlier in the season, that their squad cost £273m to put together. That's not an equal playing field. Fine margins maybe on the scoreline but economics in football are often the key factor. 
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 12,019
    For the first half an hour we went back to doing everything that worked well for us at the start of the season, pressed high, played with two mobile forwards, had a wing back who was willing to drive us up the pitch and drop a shoulder to beat a man.

    As soon as Ipswich scored it started to unravel. We started to surrender territory alongside the lack of possession we were already suffering.

    The second half was appalling. Yes, injuries didn't help, but the reversion to lumping aimless balls to Dykes who seems to have decided he is on his way in the summer and doesn't want to get injured before the world cup, was a joke.

    Yet again a team came to the Valley and spent a half passing round us and had us chasing our tails. Zero shots on or off target in an entire half, at home is inexusible. Jones has to shoulder some of the blame for that second half, I had no idea what we were trying to do for the majority of that half. The substitutes looked lost.

    Positives for me were Fevrier, Doherty and the front two linking up pretty well in the first half.

    Conversely, Gillesphey was a disaster and none of the substitutes had any impact at all.

    I have a feeling we will sneak a point on Saturday and staying up will be an admirable achievement. However, make no mistake about it, the performances and results since Boro away have been horrific. The end of the season has been nothing short of a shambles. Some of the stats coming out are a real concern for next year, what is it now 39 times this season we have failed to score more than one goal?

    We are going to need wholesale chnages next season if we stay up and Jones is going to have to come up with a more progressive stye of play as if we continue this defensive mindset I can see fans voting with their feet and gates dropping off as well.
  • elbiglad said:
    sammy391 said:
    sammy391 said:
    Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…

    NJ at fault.

    extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet again
    So what were the correct Substitutions... 
    Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?
    The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?
    A complete lack of anyone from the bench to play wide/winger and bomb along was poor. 

    Not sure if TC was injured, but don’t think he should have been taken off. Equally don’t think kelman for dykes was wise, but hardly a shock anymore. 

    A sub bench of OAP Berry, a freshly fit Godden, a freshly fit knibbs ,  and then target man dykes has given us only one dimension from the bench. 
    Would have loved to have had Fullah to bring on
    If only we had signed a winger in the summer…
    If only my Auntie had balls, she'd be my Uncle
    My point is we signed apter. Then let him out on loan 
    Apter can’t get a game for Bolton. He’s been mythologised. It was a bad signing, let’s move on. 
    A wide attacking option on the bench would be better than none though 

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  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,829
    ct_addick said:
    There is a reason Luton have had back to back relegations…Kaminksi is a fucking clown and then add Burke to that…Bell has been good part from last couple of weeks…
    Rant rant rant, you forgot to mention we would have been winning at half time if Alfie May was still here. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,663
    I found Ipswich to be dirty bastards…they’ve done Godders and TC….every time they got beat they would foul us…plus the diving cheating McAteer and Clarke….hope they don’t go up…Boro best footballing side I have seen this season 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,047
    Shocking ref .. the foul on Godden was awful , everytime we got forward he blew up for a foul …3 injuries , Collins out on his feet so was Fev who was excellent … deserved a point for effort but you can’t beat the officials …. Ipswich no better than us .. frustrating feel sorry for the boys tonight 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,181
    Been here before,
    You know exactly what is going to happen.

    Charlton sleep walking into league 1

    For the love of god, we do not want Millwall to have nothing to play for in terms of position on the last day, because I see Oxford beating Sheff Wednesday.
    If we get relegated having reached 48 points with 8 games to go then NJ needs to be sacked. 

    In that scenario, I think it is hard to argue that.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,093
    shine166 said:
    Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day. 

    The Kenyan is appalling BTW 

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about. 

    He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼
    I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,734
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,080
    First half played well and were only level at the break due to a perfect finish from them. Some real bad luck with injuries tonight but it was brutal watching just how few options we had with a couple of players going off. We had no width due to TC going off and their CBs were so dominant even Jones and Dykes couldn’t win a header. I said a couple of weeks ago that we won’t get another point this season and I stand by that, especially if Bell, Godden and TC aren’t available. We’re an awful team at this level and we now need to hope Oxford don’t defy the odds. Please let it end. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,941
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    They'll want to get 3rd at least and play Wrexham/Hull and not Boro or Southampton 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,047
    The Bell injury curse will send us down.  Out of our hands now, as there is no way what remains of our team will pick up another point.
    No it’s still in our hands .. althrough we’re safe Oxford not going to win both games and West Brom 3 points deduction puts them below us .. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,571
    edited April 22
    Post-match on Sky:

    Nathan Jones thinks it was an even game.

    Doesn't dispute the penalty. Says we’re making too many mistakes and individual errors.

    Sounds like TC was an injury.

    Moans about the ref.

    Says we were disjointed, especially second half, because of the injuries and couldn’t be as aggressive.

    Sounds like the plan is to go at Hull early Saturday, as we did tonight. 

    Cant really argue with any of it... 
    Makes sense that we'll go at Hull early on Saturday, it’s exactly what we've done these last two home games now.
    All fair enough to me. They had the quality we lack, but can’t say they pummelled us or totally dominated.

    It comes down to the lack of creativity again, and ability to take chances. We did enough between the boxes to score more than one tonight but also didn’t carve out enough sights of goal or get enough quality into their box to do so.

    When you can only score once, you are so vulnerable to any mistake you make costing you all the points. 

    All that said, I think if we’d been playing Hull tonight and played like that, I think we’d have got something from the game. Especially if we hadn’t lost so many players to injury.

    Let’s hope they can dig deep and do it again Saturday. If the do, they’ll have a chance but I worry about who will be fit and out there to try and do it. 

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,726
    Scoham said:
    sammy391 said:
    Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…

    NJ at fault.

    extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet again
    Who would you have subbed on then?
    Godden on for TC instead of Dykes.


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,692
    Jayajosh said:
    39 games without being able to score more than one. 
    The most damning statistic of the lot.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,666
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    3rd would be home second leg wouldn't it if I recall correctly? They're absolutely going to want that. 
  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,222
    12 LOL's I got when I said on the Preston post match thread that we would go down...well. 

    What an absolute nightmare scenario Nathan Jones and the team have got us all into. Buck stops with the manager, shit game management pretty much all season and absolutely terrorist football for most of it. 

    One spot above the relegation zone, the similar shit shows of Pompey, Blackburn and West Brom all now safe and on the beach. 

    Oxford with the best fixture in the Championship this season, Sheffield Wednesday at home whereas we play a play off chasing team and then go away to Swansea who have the leagues top scorer leading the line with 22 goals so far this season. Oxford head to Millwall who may or may not be in a position where they rest most of their XI ahead of the play offs. 

    This club will be the death of me.
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,837
    edited April 22
    The squad is just not good enough for this level. It's been evident for the last two thirds of the season and particularly so the past couple of months.

    Just hope that the football Gods smile on us and Sheffield Wednesday take a point off Oxford or we can get something ourselves on Saturday.

    Still completely in our hands and just need one more result.

    Massive squad overhaul of Chris Powell League one season proportions required pre season if we do manage to stay up. 

    You can't compete comfortably when perhaps only 2 or 3 of your entire squad are able to play well consistently at this level.  

    On to Saturday and let's hope Jones and the players can do the business for 90 plus minutes then and get the result we need.

    The problem is, when SCP picked up 15 players (or whatever it was) in league one, they were costing buttons. Now to overhaul a championship squad costs £30-50m in a blink of an eye, and with no guarantee that they'll gell together, or stay fit. 


  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,734
    MarcusH26 said:
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    3rd would be home second leg wouldn't it if I recall correctly? They're absolutely going to want that. 
    3rd and 4th would be that outcome, but if they finish 4th they've got the problem of facing Southampton or Middlesbrough most like
    If they get 3rd they face either a Wrexham side who weren't great last night or a Hull side whose form has nose dived
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,473
    The Bell injury curse will send us down.  Out of our hands now, as there is no way what remains of our team will pick up another point.
    No it’s still in our hands .. althrough we’re safe Oxford not going to win both games and West Brom 3 points deduction puts them below us .. 
    it’s in our hands in theory but not sure many still believe we can get a point against Hull and Swansea.  This side is simply not good enough and morale must be rock bottom
  • Cafctekkers
    Cafctekkers Posts: 1,330
    edited April 22
    Won't happen but outside of Lloyd Jones and possibly sichenji, we need a 9 or 10 new starters for next season if we manage to stay up. We have a few who could be squad players but the majority are not at the level
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,473
    Been here before,
    You know exactly what is going to happen.

    Charlton sleep walking into league 1

    For the love of god, we do not want Millwall to have nothing to play for in terms of position on the last day, because I see Oxford beating Sheff Wednesday.
    If we get relegated having reached 48 points with 8 games to go then NJ needs to be sacked. 
    Do we have to be relegated for that to happen?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,553
    sammy391 said:
    sammy391 said:
    Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…

    NJ at fault.

    extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet again
    So what were the correct Substitutions... 
    Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?
    The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?
    A complete lack of anyone from the bench to play wide/winger and bomb along was poor. 

    Not sure if TC was injured, but don’t think he should have been taken off. Equally don’t think kelman for dykes was wise, but hardly a shock anymore. 

    A sub bench of OAP Berry, a freshly fit Godden, a freshly fit knibbs ,  and then target man dykes has given us only one dimension from the bench. 
    Would have loved to have had Fullah to bring on
    If only we had signed a winger in the summer…
    If only my Auntie had balls, she'd be my Uncle
    My point is we signed apter. Then let him out on loan 
    Show me a team that gets every signing right each summer?
    Not like we just got one signing wrong though is it? We wasted the thick end of £10 million.
    Jones shouldn’t be given that much influence again.