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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Ipswich Town: Wednesday 22nd April 2026: KO 19:45

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,726
    That first 35 mins I haven't seen us play like that since early on in the season. We were aggressive. The press was class and we won every second ball. One lapse in judgement where we pushed up and the broke through and had too much space and equalised. The pen was stupid and game over. 2nd half back to how we have been of late long ball and hope and it was never gon a work.

    Last we see of Bell and Godders this season. TC also looked in a bad way.
    I agree.

    First 30 mins best I've seen for months. Breaking at speed & interceptions by Doc setting up attacks.

    But once we concede we fall apart. Been the same for the past 6 weeks. We score first & then can't get a second. Opposition equalise & we fall apart. 


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,692
    Need Sheffield Wednesday or Millwall to stop Oxford then. Because we’re not getting another point this season. Not a single shot at goal in the entire second half is appalling. 
    Desperately need Millwall to win at Leicester on Friday so they will have a chance of automatic promotion when they come to play Oxford.

    And I hate saying that.
    But they won't have if Ipswich win their next two games. They will be three points behind coming into the final game with a far inferior goal difference. 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,663
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    Hate that we would have to rely on those c***s
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,473
    MarcusH26 said:
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    3rd would be home second leg wouldn't it if I recall correctly? They're absolutely going to want that. 
    3rd and 4th would be that outcome, but if they finish 4th they've got the problem of facing Southampton or Middlesbrough most like
    If they get 3rd they face either a Wrexham side who weren't great last night or a Hull side whose form has nose dived
    Hull’s form may improve on Saturday 
  • NorthStandUltra
    NorthStandUltra Posts: 2,586
    Dazzler21 said:
    shine166 said:
    Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day. 

    The Kenyan is appalling BTW 

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about. 

    He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼
    I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe. 
    In hindsight, appalling was probably incorrect, but he’s not all that. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,734
    sammy391 said:
    sammy391 said:
    Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…

    NJ at fault.

    extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet again
    So what were the correct Substitutions... 
    Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?
    The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?
    A complete lack of anyone from the bench to play wide/winger and bomb along was poor. 

    Not sure if TC was injured, but don’t think he should have been taken off. Equally don’t think kelman for dykes was wise, but hardly a shock anymore. 

    A sub bench of OAP Berry, a freshly fit Godden, a freshly fit knibbs ,  and then target man dykes has given us only one dimension from the bench. 
    Would have loved to have had Fullah to bring on
    If only we had signed a winger in the summer…
    If only my Auntie had balls, she'd be my Uncle
    My point is we signed apter. Then let him out on loan 
    Show me a team that gets every signing right each summer?
    Not like we just got one signing wrong though is it? We wasted the thick end of £10 million.
    Jones shouldn’t be given that much influence again.
    Doesn't look like he will be, with Chapple here now
  • Dugdaleclass
    Dugdaleclass Posts: 602
    Not quite squeaky bum time yet, but we are certainly making this hard going (how very Charlton). A lot more spirit shown tonight and Doc was outstanding in the first half. But class (and lots of money) told in the end. Poor old Macca was turned inside out and gave away the penalty and our No1 number one gave a classic example of how to guess right, make the dive, and somehow allow the ball to pass clean under his body. When was the last time a Charlton keeper actually save a penalty?

    Ipswich are shaky at the back yet we didn't lay a glove on them in the second half. Not one shot. Our strike weapon ie TC was already laid up in the treatment room. So from the bench came Sonny boy, But Carey's days of making a wonder strike from outside the box seem to be long past and I can't remember him actually touching the ball at all. Dykes and Knibbs ran around a bit, and Godden didn't because he was injured minutes after joining the fray.

    So on to Hull at the weekend. We have a good track record at the Valley against Hull (we beat them 1-0 last game of the season when they went up from League one as Champions) so here's hoping. However, Bell now joins Ramsey on the injured list which is worrying although I suppose Clarke will return. Let's hope that Sheff Weds' form of late continues and Millwall are still pressing for the auto spot right to the end of the season.
  • The Bell injury curse will send us down.  Out of our hands now, as there is no way what remains of our team will pick up another point.
    No it’s still in our hands .. althrough we’re safe Oxford not going to win both games and West Brom 3 points deduction puts them below us .. 
    Not tonight Ronnie given you're the bloke who keeps saying if it wasn't for Kaminski we'd be in the bottom 3.

    Kaminski is crap. An arthritic, half blind 80 year old could have saved that penalty.
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 1,010
    Even if we do stay up, from where we were after the Boro game, this is a disgrace and Jones needs to go
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,734
    mogodon said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    3rd would be home second leg wouldn't it if I recall correctly? They're absolutely going to want that. 
    3rd and 4th would be that outcome, but if they finish 4th they've got the problem of facing Southampton or Middlesbrough most like
    If they get 3rd they face either a Wrexham side who weren't great last night or a Hull side whose form has nose dived
    Hull’s form may improve on Saturday 
    So might ours...

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  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,615
    banknote0 said:
    Gillesphey brought us up and now he might have a hand in taking us back down.

    Useless prick.
    Dont agree, but no need to call him a prick. He was the reason we’re in the division and that free kick means he’s always going to be a legend at the club.
    Seems like a lovely bloke and always tries but he’s just nowhere near good enough. He’s literally the reason we’re in this position. That series of games where we had him at LCB and Campbell LWB really cost us, plus that performance tonight. Just tragic that he’s been asked to play. 
    I know it takes a lot less to be called a legend these days but fuck me.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,473
    Not quite squeaky bum time yet, but we are certainly making this hard going (how very Charlton). A lot more spirit shown tonight and Doc was outstanding in the first half. But class (and lots of money) told in the end. Poor old Macca was turned inside out and gave away the penalty and our No1 number one gave a classic example of how to guess right, make the dive, and somehow allow the ball to pass clean under his body. When was the last time a Charlton keeper actually save a penalty?

    Ipswich are shaky at the back yet we didn't lay a glove on them in the second half. Not one shot. Our strike weapon ie TC was already laid up in the treatment room. So from the bench came Sonny boy, But Carey's days of making a wonder strike from outside the box seem to be long past and I can't remember him actually touching the ball at all. Dykes and Knibbs ran around a bit, and Godden didn't because he was injured minutes after joining the fray.

    So on to Hull at the weekend. We have a good track record at the Valley against Hull (we beat them 1-0 last game of the season when they went up from League one as Champions) so here's hoping. However, Bell now joins Ramsey on the injured list which is worrying although I suppose Clarke will return. Let's hope that Sheff Weds' form of late continues and Millwall are still pressing for the auto spot right to the end of the season.
    Speak for yourself. My bum is very squeaky
  • mogodon said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    3rd would be home second leg wouldn't it if I recall correctly? They're absolutely going to want that. 
    3rd and 4th would be that outcome, but if they finish 4th they've got the problem of facing Southampton or Middlesbrough most like
    If they get 3rd they face either a Wrexham side who weren't great last night or a Hull side whose form has nose dived
    Hull’s form may improve on Saturday 
    So might ours...
    Based on what? 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,382
    Dazzler21 said:
    shine166 said:
    Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day. 

    The Kenyan is appalling BTW 

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about. 

    He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼
    I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe. 
    I like him but Ipswich fans on the train back highlighted him as being awful tonight 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,734
    mogodon said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    IR94 said:
    If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.
    Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal Difference
    They're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
    3rd would be home second leg wouldn't it if I recall correctly? They're absolutely going to want that. 
    3rd and 4th would be that outcome, but if they finish 4th they've got the problem of facing Southampton or Middlesbrough most like
    If they get 3rd they face either a Wrexham side who weren't great last night or a Hull side whose form has nose dived
    Hull’s form may improve on Saturday 
    So might ours...
    Based on what? 
    Based on what for Hull?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,093
    Scoham said:
    sammy391 said:
    Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…

    NJ at fault.

    extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet again
    Who would you have subbed on then?
    Godden on for TC instead of Dykes.
    Then Godden gets injured earlier. 
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,473
    Jayajosh said:
    39 games without being able to score more than one. 
    The most damning statistic of the lot.
    Jones’ tactics are so one dimensional and predictable it’s amazing we’ve scored as many as we have
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,340
    shine166 said:
    Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day. 

    The Kenyan is appalling BTW 

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about. 

    He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼
    Quite what my profile pic has to do with anything I don't know, if a Palestine flag gets your back up then you have issues way beyond opinions on football.
  • ns9
    ns9 Posts: 70
    If we don’t get the job done on Saturday then I honestly think we will go down. We will have single digit possession at Swansea, and you just know Oxford will beat Millwall. The fact that there’s any doubt around that makes me laugh - it would be the most Charlton thing ever

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,093
    edited April 22
    mogodon said:
    Jayajosh said:
    39 games without being able to score more than one. 
    The most damning statistic of the lot.
    Jones’ tactics are so one dimensional and predictable it’s amazing we’ve scored as many as we have
    I mean look at the shots per game Vs shots on target. We get chances, our players just can't hit a barn door.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,093
    Grovenuts said:
    That nailed on point at Pompey that we managed to fuck up is looking more and more costly!!
    So could any of the 1-0 losses... 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,315
    It's unfortunate this game came where it did really. We've gone up against the 2nd placed team in the league who were Premier League last season, have a squad worth tens of millions and lost because of a penalty. If this had been earlier in the season I think there'd be less rage on here but as we're so close to the end and still in relegation danger there's some real vitriol that doesn't match the game. We started well and took the lead, lost one of our best players to injury, lost the only other player who offers us width and opens the pitch up to injury after that and just don't have the squad to replace them. Then we got yet another injury to a sub and couple that with some fairly criminal reffing and we can feel fairly hard done by. Annoying but now the focus is on getting something off Hull
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,382
    edited April 22
    fenaddick said:
    Croydon said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    shine166 said:
    Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day. 

    The Kenyan is appalling BTW 

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about. 

    He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼
    I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe. 
    I like him but Ipswich fans on the train back highlighted him as being awful tonight 
    Kept Clarke in his pocket when he came on and largely kept Philogene at bay too. All after a few weeks out and with less than 10 Championship appearances. If that's awful, I'd love to see good
    Did he keep Clarke in his pocket? Words used to have meaning 
  • Grovenuts said:
    That nailed on point at Pompey that we managed to fuck up is looking more and more costly!!
    So many results over the season as a whole 

    Pompey 
    Leicester 
    Millwall 

    Should’ve been seen out but weren’t 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,181
    That league table after Boro is the most damning image of the night for me.

    How the hell have we ended up here after that? 

    It not about negativity or positivity.

    Universally I think we will all agree that is shocking.
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,311
    Need Sheffield Wednesday or Millwall to stop Oxford then. Because we’re not getting another point this season. Not a single shot at goal in the entire second half is appalling. 
    Desperately need Millwall to win at Leicester on Friday so they will have a chance of automatic promotion when they come to play Oxford.

    And I hate saying that.
    But they won't have if Ipswich win their next two games. They will be three points behind coming into the final game with a far inferior goal difference. 

    They'll still want to finish third though even if 2nd is out of reach

    They'll have a much better chance if they play Hollywood or Hull instead of Southampton or Boro (well, they'd probably beat Boro but will want to avoid Southampton)
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 18,257
    Croydon said:
    fenaddick said:
    Croydon said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    shine166 said:
    Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day. 

    The Kenyan is appalling BTW 

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about. 

    He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼
    I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe. 
    I like him but Ipswich fans on the train back highlighted him as being awful tonight 
    Kept Clarke in his pocket when he came on and largely kept Philogene at bay too. All after a few weeks out and with less than 10 Championship appearances. If that's awful, I'd love to see good
    Did he keep Clarke in his pocket? Words used to have meaning 
    Yes, limited him to one shot which went out by the corner flag and 0 chances created. All while defending in a back 3 with Coventry and Macca because Jones was up front
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,665
    fenaddick said:
    Croydon said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    shine166 said:
    Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day. 

    The Kenyan is appalling BTW 

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about. 

    He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼
    I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe. 
    I like him but Ipswich fans on the train back highlighted him as being awful tonight 
    Kept Clarke in his pocket when he came on and largely kept Philogene at bay too. All after a few weeks out and with less than 10 Championship appearances. If that's awful, I'd love to see good
    I like him , yes he's incredibly raw and is going to need time to get used to this league fitness and physically having come over straight from the Serbian season but there's some real positives there to work on with him.