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Championship Games 25/26

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  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,644
    cabbles said:
    Refreshing to just observe this thread from now on, rather than care about the outcome of any of the games, bar Millwall hopefully imploding of course - sorry Millwall Fan

    Even if Ipswich lose 2mo, I think they will be quite comfortable against QPR.  QPR are shocking away and have nothing to play for.  It would have to be some sort of major screw up on Ipswich’s part to lose.

    The 6th spot is obviously good to see go to the final game, Hull still in with a chance after y’day and Derby too.  

    The order of 3rd-5th in the playoffs will be interesting, particularly if Soton win 2mo.  Boro have a tough game at Wrexham, Millwall have the easiest for me.  Personally, I’ve always preferred home leg second, and our 3 promotions have come with the home leg second.  Twice we lost when it was Palace and Shrewsbury in the home leg first.  Swindon are the outlier as we were away first, but overall if I’m one of Millwall, Boro and Soton, I’d want to be finishing 3rd/4th
    Sadly I think you’re right. I can’t see Ipswich dropping points against QPR. We needed to win on Friday night. Still play offs for us is still progress on last season. And if we don’t go up it’s not the end of the world. The club are still on the right path and the championship is a fantastic league. 
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 2,180
    edited April 27
    Agree @cabbles, it's nice to sit back and observe now.

    Observation from me on the chase for 6th place - if Wrexham win on the final day, Hull can still take the last playoff spot if they win their game by a bigger margin than Wrexham. Hull's forward racing back to clear off the line from Fevrier as the game ticked down may have more meaning than just preventing lanky bedlam in the Covered End. Probably won't, but could. Derby have a great chance of stealing 6th, too.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,050
    I think I want an Ipswich win tomorrow night, if they lose to Southampton, I can see a horrible situation where Millwank get a last gasp winner just as QPR bundle an equaliser in, and suddenly they go up.

    Ipswich win and they're 3 points and about 20 goals better off in GD, so pretty much unassailable.

    Would also then love Boro to get 3rd and Millwall have the tougher semi final against Southampton instead of Hull/Wrexham/Derby
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,808
    If Soton beat Ipswich, then next Saturday 4 teams within a point of each other could get 2nd, while 3 teams within a point of each will be fighting for the last playoff spot. 

    Soton will be kicking themselves over the hopeless start under Still. Ditto Norwich, who are just 5 points off the playoffs after an awful start under Manning. Norwich are way better than Hull and Derby, but left themselves too much to do.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,621
    cabbles said:
    Refreshing to just observe this thread from now on, rather than care about the outcome of any of the games, bar Millwall hopefully imploding of course - sorry Millwall Fan

    Even if Ipswich lose 2mo, I think they will be quite comfortable against QPR.  QPR are shocking away and have nothing to play for.  It would have to be some sort of major screw up on Ipswich’s part to lose.

    The 6th spot is obviously good to see go to the final game, Hull still in with a chance after y’day and Derby too.  

    The order of 3rd-5th in the playoffs will be interesting, particularly if Soton win 2mo.  Boro have a tough game at Wrexham, Millwall have the easiest for me.  Personally, I’ve always preferred home leg second, and our 3 promotions have come with the home leg second.  Twice we lost when it was Palace and Shrewsbury in the home leg first.  Swindon are the outlier as we were away first, but overall if I’m one of Millwall, Boro and Soton, I’d want to be finishing 3rd/4th
    Sadly I think you’re right. I can’t see Ipswich dropping points against QPR. We needed to win on Friday night. Still play offs for us is still progress on last season. And if we don’t go up it’s not the end of the world. The club are still on the right path and the championship is a fantastic league. 
    Objectively speaking you’ve had a great season.  If I were Soton, Boro or Hull/Wrexham/Derby, I would be nervous playing you.  

    I would put your chances of going up quite high should you end up in the playoffs.  Soton have been superb and on a great run, but they’ve racked up a lot of games in the last few months.  You could argue it might be a game too far to do two big games plus a final, so who knows.  Boro could be a dark horse.  Dark horse in that they’ve just recovered from a poor run that’s cost them the autos, but I think the pressure is off them because of it.

    Based on Hull’s showing on Saturday, aside from 10 minutes in the second half, they didn’t offer much.  Wrexham I have no clue and Derby don’t give me any fear factor.

    that being said, these things always through up a surprise.  Sunderland’s run last season going into them was terrible.  They were the complete antithesis of a team winning it putting a late run together 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 13,507
    cabbles said:
    Refreshing to just observe this thread from now on, rather than care about the outcome of any of the games, bar Millwall hopefully imploding of course - sorry Millwall Fan

    Even if Ipswich lose 2mo, I think they will be quite comfortable against QPR.  QPR are shocking away and have nothing to play for.  It would have to be some sort of major screw up on Ipswich’s part to lose.

    The 6th spot is obviously good to see go to the final game, Hull still in with a chance after y’day and Derby too.  

    The order of 3rd-5th in the playoffs will be interesting, particularly if Soton win 2mo.  Boro have a tough game at Wrexham, Millwall have the easiest for me.  Personally, I’ve always preferred home leg second, and our 3 promotions have come with the home leg second.  Twice we lost when it was Palace and Shrewsbury in the home leg first.  Swindon are the outlier as we were away first, but overall if I’m one of Millwall, Boro and Soton, I’d want to be finishing 3rd/4th
    Sadly I think you’re right. I can’t see Ipswich dropping points against QPR. We needed to win on Friday night. Still play offs for us is still progress on last season. And if we don’t go up it’s not the end of the world. The club are still on the right path and the championship is a fantastic league. 
    But it would mean that our quest for a perfect 46-win, 138-point season is dashed before we've even bloody started.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,458
    Does anyone know a stream for Southampton v Ipswich tonight, had a look on Fawanews and nothing showing up yet.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 18,422
    Does anyone know a stream for Southampton v Ipswich tonight, had a look on Fawanews and nothing showing up yet.
    They put them up late
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,458
    fenaddick said:
    Does anyone know a stream for Southampton v Ipswich tonight, had a look on Fawanews and nothing showing up yet.
    They put them up late
    Thanks, thought it might be that. Thumbs up.
  • Does anyone know a stream for Southampton v Ipswich tonight, had a look on Fawanews and nothing showing up yet.
    PSG v Bayern Munich tonight



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  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,405
    Does anyone know a stream for Southampton v Ipswich tonight, had a look on Fawanews and nothing showing up yet.
    PSG v Bayern Munich tonight


    Nah, prefer watching James Bree
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,977
    Now we’re safe can pray for an Ipswich win 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,808
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BlsvFd-1YQ

    Good review of Saturday. Plenty about us, seeing that George's Oxford were the victims of our win.

    Also a good point that the teams in the playoff positions won't let up next Saturday, as there will be a real benefit to finish 3rd and play the team in 6th, which will be by far the weakest of the playoff rivals. 2nd to 5th are all much stronger than 6th to 8th, Wrexham, Hull and Derby.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,600
    Now we are safe, I'm looking forward to a crazy last game of the regular season. However, my major concern is wanting Chatlton to finish with a win.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,458
    BalladMan said:
    Does anyone know a stream for Southampton v Ipswich tonight, had a look on Fawanews and nothing showing up yet.
    PSG v Bayern Munich tonight


    Nah, prefer watching James Bree
    Not interested in any of that foreign muck
  • Now we’re safe can pray for an Ipswich win 
    No, we want a Southampton win. That way they, Ipswich and Middlesbrough could potentially finish higher than Millwall who would then finish in 5th place if they fail to beat Oxford 


  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,644
    Now we’re safe can pray for an Ipswich win 
    No, we want a Southampton win. That way they, Ipswich and Middlesbrough could potentially finish higher than Millwall who would then finish in 5th place if they fail to beat Oxford 


    Or we could beat Oxford, Ipswich drop points to QPR, and we finish second 😁
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,050
    Now we’re safe can pray for an Ipswich win 
    No, we want a Southampton win. That way they, Ipswich and Middlesbrough could potentially finish higher than Millwall who would then finish in 5th place if they fail to beat Oxford 


    But as I've said before, that way they can also win and Ipswich draw, and they go up.

    Ipswich win tonight and they can't be caught, realistically.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 8,242
    Now we’re safe can pray for an Ipswich win 
    No, we want a Southampton win. That way they, Ipswich and Middlesbrough could potentially finish higher than Millwall who would then finish in 5th place if they fail to beat Oxford 


    Idiot 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,644
    Now we’re safe can pray for an Ipswich win 
    No, we want a Southampton win. That way they, Ipswich and Middlesbrough could potentially finish higher than Millwall who would then finish in 5th place if they fail to beat Oxford 


    Idiot 
    I was thinking to myself “well how does that work, because I want Southampton to win as well” 😂

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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,751
    Come on the Tractor Boys - we didn't lose to you last week for no reason !!!
  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,222
    Why would anyone want anything other than an Ipswich win tonight is beyond me. Baffling! Are you even Charlton fans?
  • Why would anyone want anything other than an Ipswich win tonight is beyond me. Baffling! Are you even Charlton fans?
    Ipswich have a goal difference that’s so superior it means Millwall have to get a better result than them to overtake them, and Ipswich are at home to QPR who have lost their last 3 games and drawn the previous two. Millwall on the other hand have to look over their shoulders at the two teams below them, which if Southampton win tonight will be two teams below that are just one point behind. Both those teams will most likely win on Saturday which means Millwall must beat an already relegated Oxford who with nothing to lose and every reason to play like promotion contenders instead and will at least get a draw. In that event, Millwall finishing in 5th place will likely have to play the 2nd leg away to Middlesbrough on a Tuesday night.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,621
    Even if Ipswich lose tonight I don’t think it will stop them going up.  I just can’t see them slipping up tonight and against QPR.  

    Be a great incentive for Soton, Boro and Millwall going into the final day if they can still be caught, but it would have to go down as a monumental screw up on Ipswich’s part

    I’m also thinking that the run and amount of games Soton have had recently could be beginning to take its toll.  Wouldn’t be surprised if Ipswich got a win 

  • NomadicAddick
    NomadicAddick Posts: 2,222
    Why would anyone want anything other than an Ipswich win tonight is beyond me. Baffling! Are you even Charlton fans?
    Ipswich have a goal difference that’s so superior it means Millwall have to get a better result than them to overtake them, and Ipswich are at home to QPR who have lost their last 3 games and drawn the previous two. Millwall on the other hand have to look over their shoulders at the two teams below them, which if Southampton win tonight will be two teams below that are just one point behind. Both those teams will most likely win on Saturday which means Millwall must beat an already relegated Oxford who with nothing to lose and every reason to play like promotion contenders instead and will at least get a draw. In that event, Millwall finishing in 5th place will likely have to play the 2nd leg away to Middlesbrough on a Tuesday night.
    Nope. Not having that, way too many variables. All it takes if Ipswich don't win tonight is them to drop points against QPR and all Millwall have to do is win against an already relegated side, and you assuming Oxford will play like play off contenders and is absolutely nonsensical. 

    By your logic, what is stopping QPR, who also have nothing to play for, playing like automatic promotion contenders and spoil Ipswich's party?

    The quicker Millwall are out of contention for an automatic place, the better. 
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 2,180
    edited April 28
    A realistic best case for Millwall would be to contrive to get Boro or the 6th place team in the semi final. I can't see them overcoming Southampton over a two leg semi final; but a one off final against them a better chance.

    If Ipswich are in the playoffs Millwall should have finished in 2nd place. I can't see Ipwich winning tonight but QPR will surely roll over for them on the final day.

    Intriguing game tonight - first time in weeks I can actually enjoy watching any non-Charlton game!
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,206
    Both Saints and Ipswich will gain promotion, Ipswich will finish second and Saints will win playoffs...
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,205
    This way to the Premier League Ipswich:

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  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,644
    Both Saints and Ipswich will gain promotion, Ipswich will finish second and Saints will win playoffs...
    Probably 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,644
    Why would anyone want anything other than an Ipswich win tonight is beyond me. Baffling! Are you even Charlton fans?
    Ipswich have a goal difference that’s so superior it means Millwall have to get a better result than them to overtake them, and Ipswich are at home to QPR who have lost their last 3 games and drawn the previous two. Millwall on the other hand have to look over their shoulders at the two teams below them, which if Southampton win tonight will be two teams below that are just one point behind. Both those teams will most likely win on Saturday which means Millwall must beat an already relegated Oxford who with nothing to lose and every reason to play like promotion contenders instead and will at least get a draw. In that event, Millwall finishing in 5th place will likely have to play the 2nd leg away to Middlesbrough on a Tuesday night.
    You over thought this mate