It’s too f***ing hot

bobmunro · 3:49PM

TD_Addick said:

fenaddick said:

TD_Addick said:

@cantersaddick I feel so stupid now you’ve put it like that, you’ve completely changed my mind buddy. Eveytime it goes above 28 I will take my frustrations out on the cows farts which apparently are now contributing to this terrible climate change which is destroying our his planet. I will now eat vegan burgers and walk to my holiday destinations instead of polluting the atmosphere. Thanks buddy you were right I’m stupid.

Why have you decided to respond to a really polite post disagreeing with you by being hugely sarcastic and rude? Is it because there's no science to back up your opinion?

End of the day take a look at weather changes over the last 1000 years there are many especially in the 1700s and 1800s with spikes in temperatures. I’m a genuine believer in everyone is entitled to their opinion and if people want to believe in global warming then go for it. But it just gets very tiresome that just because we have a nice bank holiday people are waffling on about climate change but when the weather is cooler they go silent.

Believe whatever you want that’s your right as human with free will, but I choose to enjoy life and not let mainstream media scare me.

It's not a religion or faith thing - it's overwhelmingly backed with science (unlike religion).

Of course one bank holiday weekend in isolation is not evidence of global warming - but the unquestionable long term trend over the last 250 years convinces me that humankind's (ignorant of the facts when the industrial revolution kicked off but we now know differently) reliance on fossil fuels has been a major contributor.

But I agree - if one chooses to ignore the evidence and deny the existence of man made global warming then it is entirely their prerogative to do so.

lancashire lad · 3:55PM

A lot depends on the humidity, I was once in Aqaba with a temp in high 30's and low humidity which was acceptable and a few days later in Port Sudan with similar temp but very high humidity which was horrible.

cantersaddick · 4:00PM

TD_Addick said:

There are several changes to temperatures before the 20th century @sam3110 go research it.

Of course there were. But never before as quickly or to the extent that we are currently seeing. As demonstrated by the graph already posted above.

LargeAddick · 4:13PM

If the temperature drops tomorrow as much as it has from yesterday to today then surely soon we will be back to the ice age?

TD_Addick · 4:16PM

I’ve just checked the weather next week says 18 to 20 degrees maybe global warming taking a week off? Maybe not so many cows farted this week? 😂

AFKABartram · 4:17PM

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cantersaddick · 4:17PM

bobmunro said:

TD_Addick said:

fenaddick said:

TD_Addick said:

@cantersaddick I feel so stupid now you’ve put it like that, you’ve completely changed my mind buddy. Eveytime it goes above 28 I will take my frustrations out on the cows farts which apparently are now contributing to this terrible climate change which is destroying our his planet. I will now eat vegan burgers and walk to my holiday destinations instead of polluting the atmosphere. Thanks buddy you were right I’m stupid.

Why have you decided to respond to a really polite post disagreeing with you by being hugely sarcastic and rude? Is it because there's no science to back up your opinion?

End of the day take a look at weather changes over the last 1000 years there are many especially in the 1700s and 1800s with spikes in temperatures. I’m a genuine believer in everyone is entitled to their opinion and if people want to believe in global warming then go for it. But it just gets very tiresome that just because we have a nice bank holiday people are waffling on about climate change but when the weather is cooler they go silent.

Believe whatever you want that’s your right as human with free will, but I choose to enjoy life and not let mainstream media scare me.

It's not a religion or faith thing - it's overwhelmingly backed with science (unlike religion).

Of course one bank holiday weekend in isolation is not evidence of global warming - but the unquestionable long term trend over the last 250 years convinces me that humankind's (ignorant of the facts when the industrial revolution kicked off but we now know differently) reliance on fossil fuels has been a major contributor.

But I agree - if one chooses to ignore the evidence and deny the existence of man made global warming then it is entirely their prerogative to do so.

Absolutely. Also remember that this is not an August Bank Holiday but a Mayday bank holiday. Unprecedented for this time of year.

And the point that TD keeps ignoring. This isn't a localised weather event or even a country wide. This is an entire continent and bits of a couple other continents experiencing what should be a thousand year event. But is happening for the 4th time in 6 years. And if the El nino predictions are anything to go by this will be minor compared to what is coming later in the year.

cantersaddick · 4:19PM

TD_Addick said:

I’ve just checked the weather next week says 18 to 20 degrees maybe global warming taking a week off? Maybe not so many cows farted this week? 😂

It's almost like you don't understand the difference between weather and climate...

Covered End · 4:29PM

When people ignore pages of evidence and counter with "go look it up".

But do not provide one shred of evidence themself.

I always, struggle to decide is that person trolling, or just being wilfully ignorant of the mountains of evidence?

Ignorance is bliss anyone?

bobmunro · 4:31PM

TD_Addick said:

I’ve just checked the weather next week says 18 to 20 degrees maybe global warming taking a week off? Maybe not so many cows farted this week? 😂

Maybe those ignorant of the nose in front of their face (and statistics) will still walk amongst us.

bobmunro · 4:33PM

Covered End said:

When people ignore pages of evidence and counter with "go look it up".

But do not provide one shred of evidence themself.

I always, struggle to decide is that person trolling, or just being wilfully ignorant of the mountains of evidence?

Ignorance is bliss anyone?

I think the former in this case, CE.

Arsenetatters · 4:38PM

Air con is really not good for the environment/climate change.

I like to offset my old diesel van against not having air con at home - or in the van.

bobmunro · 4:41PM

cantersaddick said:

TD_Addick said:

I’ve just checked the weather next week says 18 to 20 degrees maybe global warming taking a week off? Maybe not so many cows farted this week? 😂

It's almost like you don't understand the difference between weather and climate...

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ME14addick · 4:53PM

bobmunro said:

TD_Addick said:

fenaddick said:

TD_Addick said:

@cantersaddick I feel so stupid now you’ve put it like that, you’ve completely changed my mind buddy. Eveytime it goes above 28 I will take my frustrations out on the cows farts which apparently are now contributing to this terrible climate change which is destroying our his planet. I will now eat vegan burgers and walk to my holiday destinations instead of polluting the atmosphere. Thanks buddy you were right I’m stupid.

Why have you decided to respond to a really polite post disagreeing with you by being hugely sarcastic and rude? Is it because there's no science to back up your opinion?

End of the day take a look at weather changes over the last 1000 years there are many especially in the 1700s and 1800s with spikes in temperatures. I’m a genuine believer in everyone is entitled to their opinion and if people want to believe in global warming then go for it. But it just gets very tiresome that just because we have a nice bank holiday people are waffling on about climate change but when the weather is cooler they go silent.

Believe whatever you want that’s your right as human with free will, but I choose to enjoy life and not let mainstream media scare me.

It's not a religion or faith thing - it's overwhelmingly backed with science (unlike religion).

Of course one bank holiday weekend in isolation is not evidence of global warming - but the unquestionable long term trend over the last 250 years convinces me that humankind's (ignorant of the facts when the industrial revolution kicked off but we now know differently) reliance on fossil fuels has been a major contributor.

But I agree - if one chooses to ignore the evidence and deny the existence of man made global warming then it is entirely their prerogative to do so.

The problem comes when those with a vested interest in continuing to burn fossil fuels, promote mis/disinformation for their own benefit. They are likely to be the ones most able to protect themselves from the worst effects of climate change. They will be able to afford air conditioning, be able to protect themselves from flooding and able to pay the very high price for food that others cannot afford. Eventually, even they will not be able to escape the the problems it will cause.

TD_Addick · 5:04PM

Covered End said:

When people ignore pages of evidence and counter with "go look it up".

But do not provide one shred of evidence themself.

I always, struggle to decide is that person trolling, or just being wilfully ignorant of the mountains of evidence?

Ignorance is bliss anyone?

Between 950 and 1250 CE was an unusual period of warmer climate known as The Medieval Warm Period estimated to be up to warmer than the preceding centuries. There are many more it’s not about me being ignorant just can’t be bothered to list them, maybe give BBC news a miss today and create your own opinions 😉

Stig · 5:20PM

TD_Addick said:

fenaddick said:

TD_Addick said:

@cantersaddick I feel so stupid now you’ve put it like that, you’ve completely changed my mind buddy. Eveytime it goes above 28 I will take my frustrations out on the cows farts which apparently are now contributing to this terrible climate change which is destroying our his planet. I will now eat vegan burgers and walk to my holiday destinations instead of polluting the atmosphere. Thanks buddy you were right I’m stupid.

Why have you decided to respond to a really polite post disagreeing with you by being hugely sarcastic and rude? Is it because there's no science to back up your opinion?

End of the day take a look at weather changes over the last 1000 years there are many especially in the 1700s and 1800s with spikes in temperatures. I’m a genuine believer in everyone is entitled to their opinion and if people want to believe in global warming then go for it. But it just gets very tiresome that just because we have a nice bank holiday people are waffling on about climate change but when the weather is cooler they go silent.

Believe whatever you want that’s your right as human with free will, but I choose to enjoy life and not let mainstream media scare me.

That final half-sentence looks to be quite enlightening. Most people 'believe' in climate change because they have weighed up the evidence presented to them and have reached a conclusion based on that evidence. For some that will be an instant and unconscious decision based on their immediate reaction to the facts. For others it will be a conscious decision based on painstaking analysis. And for many, maybe most of us, it's be somewhere in-between those two. According to what you've said above, your decision making is based on something different: avoidance or denial of factual information which you (might) find scary. The tragedy is that it doesn't mean that what's happening isn't happening, it just means that you're ignoring the facts. And that explains perfectly why you have chosen to ignore every single piece of factual evidence for climate change presented here, and presumably anywhere else.

Stig · 5:26PM

TD_Addick said:

Covered End said:

When people ignore pages of evidence and counter with "go look it up".

But do not provide one shred of evidence themself.

I always, struggle to decide is that person trolling, or just being wilfully ignorant of the mountains of evidence?

Ignorance is bliss anyone?

Between 950 and 1250 CE was an unusual period of warmer climate known as The Medieval Warm Period estimated to be up to warmer than the preceding centuries. There are many more it’s not about me being ignorant just can’t be bothered to list them, maybe give BBC news a miss today and create your own opinions 😉

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eastterrace6168 · 5:31PM

When you reach the bottom stop digging...

Garrymanilow · 5:35PM

TD_Addick said:

Covered End said:

When people ignore pages of evidence and counter with "go look it up".

But do not provide one shred of evidence themself.

I always, struggle to decide is that person trolling, or just being wilfully ignorant of the mountains of evidence?

Ignorance is bliss anyone?

Between 950 and 1250 CE was an unusual period of warmer climate known as The Medieval Warm Period estimated to be up to warmer than the preceding centuries. There are many more it’s not about me being ignorant just can’t be bothered to list them, maybe give BBC news a miss today and create your own opinions 😉

Except of course the Medieval Warm Period didn't happen across the globe and some areas had little to no temperature change. Global temperatures were 0.2-0.4 degrees higher than in previous centuries. Since the late 19th century the earth's average surface temperature has increased by about 1.2 degrees, and has accelerated in recent decades. This warming is global and has affected the poles, tropics, and temperate zones equally and has caused rising sea levels, melting polar ice, more frequent extreme weather events and huge ecological changes. The global nature of the climate change and rate of warming is unprecedented. While some areas benefited form the MWP others suffered massively; the Mayan cities of Central America had mega droughts and Andean civilisation all but collapsed as Lake Titicaca evaporated. Other areas had intense flooding and caused communities to bunch up into larger ones in safer areas that hadn't been affected due to the non-global nature of the changes; but where do you go if the entire planet is heating up? The MWP is a completely irrelevant comparison point for modern human-caused climate change, but then it's very useful if you've already decided to not believe in climate change and want to come up with a more obscure argument that hasn't been as publicly torn apart as the others. I don't know why you would want to do that, but it's certainly something that you can do.

TD_Addick · 5:50PM

I go by my own experience of things and also doing my research I choose not to believe someone standing in front of the TV with a posh voice pointing to a graph it takes more than that for me. So please stop sharing the graph it isn’t working.

In my life on this planet I feel the weather has been the same, some hot days some cold days and rainy days. I then took time to look at how many climate and weather surges cold and hot have happened over the centuries and it’s happened a lot.

Again if you want to believe Mr Scientist standing in front of your TV pointing to his graph then please feel free to continue that way of receiving information that’s your choice but I choose differently, this will be the final thing I post on the topic because clearly some of you can’t accept people are different and enjoy throwing words around like “stupid” and “ignorant” so best to walk away.

To the original post yes it is f**king hot 😂 enjoy the weather everyone.

AndyG · 5:53PM

Stig said:

My main memory of 1976 was scooping up hundreds of ladybirds in a plastic container. To my knowledge, that's something that's not been possible since. For most though, I guess the temperature would be the main thing. How consistently hot it was I don't know, but just looking at the highest daily temperature data I think that probably the main thing that made it so memorable was that it was so unusual, in fact it would never have been seen before in many people's lifetimes. That temperature, 35.9°C had only ever been reached twice before in the UK (1911 and 1934). That same temperature has now been reached in seven of the last thirty years. Sadly and worryingly, it is no longer unusual.

I spent everyday for weeks at Danson Park lido. Not sure if it was the weather or the fact that I was young with not a care in the world but it was without doubt the best summer of my life, all day in the lido and all evening in the Jolly Draymen life couldn’t have been better lol

Garrymanilow · 5:56PM

TD_Addick said:

I go by my own experience of things and also doing my research I choose not to believe someone standing in front of the TV with a posh voice pointing to a graph it takes more than that for me. So please stop sharing the graph it isn’t working.

In my life on this planet I feel the weather has been the same, some hot days some cold days and rainy days. I then took time to look at how many climate and weather surges cold and hot have happened over the centuries and it’s happened a lot.

Again if you want to believe Mr Scientist standing in front of your TV pointing to his graph then please feel free to continue that way of receiving information that’s your choice but I choose differently, this will be the final thing I post on the topic because clearly some of you can’t accept people are different and enjoy throwing words around like “stupid” and “ignorant” so best to walk away.

To the original post yes it is f**king hot 😂 enjoy the weather everyone.

Ah, the flounce, The final move of the person who doesn't have any others left after it's been pointed out that the science is telling them they're wrong. I'd be fascinated to see some links to the 'research' that TD has done but sadly as he's not going to be posting anymore he won't be posting it. And also because it doesn't exist. Shame.

Stig · 5:59PM

"Mr Scientist", that's instructive. I wonder why the distrust of scientists from someone who's apparently interested in doing research.

Covered End · 6:05PM

TD_Addick said:

Covered End said:

When people ignore pages of evidence and counter with "go look it up".

But do not provide one shred of evidence themself.

I always, struggle to decide is that person trolling, or just being wilfully ignorant of the mountains of evidence?

Ignorance is bliss anyone?

Between 950 and 1250 CE was an unusual period of warmer climate known as The Medieval Warm Period estimated to be up to warmer than the preceding centuries. There are many more it’s not about me being ignorant just can’t be bothered to list them, maybe give BBC news a miss today and create your own opinions 😉

Aah, you're one of those BBC news, chem trail, illuminati, twin towers, no moon landing guys.
Thanks for clarifying.

Chunes · 6:20PM

And while we're at it, birds aren't real either.

golfaddick · 6:47PM

bobmunro said:

TD_Addick said:

fenaddick said:

TD_Addick said:

@cantersaddick I feel so stupid now you’ve put it like that, you’ve completely changed my mind buddy. Eveytime it goes above 28 I will take my frustrations out on the cows farts which apparently are now contributing to this terrible climate change which is destroying our his planet. I will now eat vegan burgers and walk to my holiday destinations instead of polluting the atmosphere. Thanks buddy you were right I’m stupid.

Why have you decided to respond to a really polite post disagreeing with you by being hugely sarcastic and rude? Is it because there's no science to back up your opinion?

End of the day take a look at weather changes over the last 1000 years there are many especially in the 1700s and 1800s with spikes in temperatures. I’m a genuine believer in everyone is entitled to their opinion and if people want to believe in global warming then go for it. But it just gets very tiresome that just because we have a nice bank holiday people are waffling on about climate change but when the weather is cooler they go silent.

Believe whatever you want that’s your right as human with free will, but I choose to enjoy life and not let mainstream media scare me.

It's not a religion or faith thing - it's overwhelmingly backed with science (unlike religion).

Of course one bank holiday weekend in isolation is not evidence of global warming - but the unquestionable long term trend over the last 250 years convinces me that humankind's (ignorant of the facts when the industrial revolution kicked off but we now know differently) reliance on fossil fuels has been a major contributor.

But I agree - if one chooses to ignore the evidence and deny the existence of man made global warming then it is entirely their prerogative to do so.

Were they taking daily temperature readings 250 years ago ?

And that graph earlier going back to year 0. Obviously Neanderthal man was out in the midday sum taking readings with his thermometer.

bobmunro · 6:53PM

golfaddick said:

bobmunro said:

TD_Addick said:

fenaddick said:

TD_Addick said:

@cantersaddick I feel so stupid now you’ve put it like that, you’ve completely changed my mind buddy. Eveytime it goes above 28 I will take my frustrations out on the cows farts which apparently are now contributing to this terrible climate change which is destroying our his planet. I will now eat vegan burgers and walk to my holiday destinations instead of polluting the atmosphere. Thanks buddy you were right I’m stupid.

Why have you decided to respond to a really polite post disagreeing with you by being hugely sarcastic and rude? Is it because there's no science to back up your opinion?

End of the day take a look at weather changes over the last 1000 years there are many especially in the 1700s and 1800s with spikes in temperatures. I’m a genuine believer in everyone is entitled to their opinion and if people want to believe in global warming then go for it. But it just gets very tiresome that just because we have a nice bank holiday people are waffling on about climate change but when the weather is cooler they go silent.

Believe whatever you want that’s your right as human with free will, but I choose to enjoy life and not let mainstream media scare me.

It's not a religion or faith thing - it's overwhelmingly backed with science (unlike religion).

Of course one bank holiday weekend in isolation is not evidence of global warming - but the unquestionable long term trend over the last 250 years convinces me that humankind's (ignorant of the facts when the industrial revolution kicked off but we now know differently) reliance on fossil fuels has been a major contributor.

But I agree - if one chooses to ignore the evidence and deny the existence of man made global warming then it is entirely their prerogative to do so.

Were they taking daily temperature readings 250 years ago ?

And that graph earlier going back to year 0. Obviously Neanderthal man was out in the midday sum taking readings with his thermometer.

It doesn't go back to the big bang, just 2,000 years - and neanderthals had been extinct for the best part of 40,000 before then

Scientists determine Earth's temperature over millenia using climate proxies—indirect natural recorders of past climates. By combining data from overlapping archives like ice cores, tree rings, and ocean sediments, researchers can reconstruct ancient global and regional climates with remarkable precision.

Bloody scientists - what do they know?

cantersaddick · 7:06PM

TD_Addick said:

I go by my own experience of things and also doing my research I choose not to believe someone standing in front of the TV with a posh voice pointing to a graph it takes more than that for me. So please stop sharing the graph it isn’t working.

In my life on this planet I feel the weather has been the same, some hot days some cold days and rainy days. I then took time to look at how many climate and weather surges cold and hot have happened over the centuries and it’s happened a lot.

Again if you want to believe Mr Scientist standing in front of your TV pointing to his graph then please feel free to continue that way of receiving information that’s your choice but I choose differently, this will be the final thing I post on the topic because clearly some of you can’t accept people are different and enjoy throwing words around like “stupid” and “ignorant” so best to walk away.

To the original post yes it is f**king hot 😂 enjoy the weather everyone.

Ohhh you've done your own research have you? Please tell me about it. How did you establish causal links? What variables did you use and which did you control for? Was it double or single blind? When will it be peer reviewed?

Because that's what you are arguing against. A massive body of research following the scientific method over a period of 60 odd years by thousands of professional scientists and researchers all peer reviewed repeatable studies and calculations. If you are disagreeing with that then the burden of proof is on you to show why that's wrong. And no claims that the whole scientific community are "in on" some kind of conspiracy or paid for by lizard people aren't enough.

Or was it more this kind of "research" you did?

cantersaddick · 7:10PM

TD_Addick said:

I go by my own experience of things and also doing my research I choose not to believe someone standing in front of the TV with a posh voice pointing to a graph it takes more than that for me. So please stop sharing the graph it isn’t working.

In my life on this planet I feel the weather has been the same, some hot days some cold days and rainy days. I then took time to look at how many climate and weather surges cold and hot have happened over the centuries and it’s happened a lot.

Again if you want to believe Mr Scientist standing in front of your TV pointing to his graph then please feel free to continue that way of receiving information that’s your choice but I choose differently, this will be the final thing I post on the topic because clearly some of you can’t accept people are different and enjoy throwing words around like “stupid” and “ignorant” so best to walk away.

To the original post yes it is f**king hot 😂 enjoy the weather everyone.

Ohh and this might sound crazy but Mr Scientist isn't actually standing in front of your TV! He's actually inside the TV. They keep him there all the time and bring him out when needed. But he doesnt actually step out of the TV into everyones living room it just looks like that.

cantersaddick · 7:18PM

Genuinely tho TD I know from experience with family members what these conspiracy theory communities (whether online or in person) can be like they draw you in and isolate you to keep you there and separate you from people in your life and the real world. Things can get nasty if you try to leave or even talk about leaving. If ever you want to get out of that world there are support groups and people who have been through it who can offer practical help and share their experiences to help you through the process. Drop me a DM if ever you want pointing to those groups.

It’s too f***ing hot

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