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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,620
    West Ham will definitely go straight back up their finances in comparison to the rest of the league will be ridiculously strong and I can’t remember the last time a relegated prem team didn’t go straight back up. 

    Erm……..
    Meant as in one of the 3 relegated sides but it’s not Like West Ham are in the same position as a Leicester or a Luton. 

    You have a club that will push 50k attendances every week, are coming down with the best squad, the best manager and will have parachute payments and can cover the revenue differences just by cashing in on Bowen Fernandes and one of Summerville or Castellanos. 

    It’s going to be the equivalent of Brum in L1
    what other clubs would be coming down?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,107
    cabbles said:
    fenaddick said:
    Have a hunch teams like QPR & Swansea might be sleepwalking to trouble with a division that strong
    So will we if we don't sign some quality players
    Season’s hardly a few weeks done and already I’m nervous about next season 😂😂

    We really need to add some quality in the summer - I’m sure we will; but you’ve got some tough old teams in there.  Last season we had the added bonus of trying to avoid 2 relegation spots and then Leicester getting a points deduction.  I can’t see any teams getting any points deductions this season and I’m already looking at our mini league of 

    Lincoln
    Bolton
    Cardiff 
    Pompey
    Blackburn
    Stoke (possibly)
    Watford (maybe)
    Got to put Preston in that - they dropped off a cliff second half didn’t they?
    Portsmouth, Preston and whoever for the drop.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,563
    Because of where I worked for many years, I have many friends who are West Ham season ticket holders and they seem to be divided whether they want Nuno to  go or stay. Some want to get rid of the Mendes connection altogether and they are totally united in wanting to see Sullivan depart. Most are really worried about who they will sell but they are hopeful that a lot of the young players will step up. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,107
    edited May 28
    Never had a problem with West Ham.

    Their fans seem to be okay with us due to our rivalry with the spanners.
  • redlanered
    redlanered Posts: 2,267
    The season ticket sales will be key.  I don't doubt that plenty of WHam fans are saying they'll not renew.  But the prospect of losing your place if/when a return to the Prem is assured will convince many to renew IMO.  And those sales will boost official attendances.

    Having said that,  we don't know how many STs were sold last year to corporates, travel companies etc.

    If they don't go straight back up, however,  I can see a real exodus.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,365
    West Ham will definitely go straight back up their finances in comparison to the rest of the league will be ridiculously strong and I can’t remember the last time a relegated prem team didn’t go straight back up. 

    Erm……..
    Meant as in one of the 3 relegated sides but it’s not Like West Ham are in the same position as a Leicester or a Luton. 

    You have a club that will push 50k attendances every week, are coming down with the best squad, the best manager and will have parachute payments and can cover the revenue differences just by cashing in on Bowen Fernandes and one of Summerville or Castellanos. 

    It’s going to be the equivalent of Brum in L1
    L1 was a completely different scenario altogether. The bar was set very low for being  a big fish in a small pond. Even Wrexham coming up from L2 automatically joined that club. Clubs coming down from the PL to a very competitive Championship only have an advantage if they can keep the core of their team in place and fully buying in to the challenge and realistically I suspect that’s not going to happen.
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,479
    I suspect a high percentage of West Ham fans will renew for the forthcoming season. However, if they fail to gain promotion at the first attempt then there is the distinct possibility that fewer will renew for 2027/2028.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,340
    I suspect a high percentage of West Ham fans will renew for the forthcoming season. However, if they fail to gain promotion at the first attempt then there is the distinct possibility that fewer will renew for 2027/2028.
    The club have reduced all ST by 30%.
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 350
    https://x.com/i/status/2059308641820307862

    Is it just me that doesn't like these type of click bait/goad the opposition posts? Similar to the weird Roy Hodgson one. 
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,563
    A lot have said they will not renew whilst Sullivan is still there and will cherry pick the bigger games. However I suspect that the majority will eventually renew to preserve their current seats. 

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  • banknote0
    banknote0 Posts: 18
    I honestly think West Ham are closer to Leicester than to Newcastle when they were last in the champ. West Ham have:
    150 million black hole they need to fill through player sales 
    Reduced revenue 
    A small, crap squad
    Owner everyone hates 
    No director of football 
    No CEO 

    I think they’ll need to make around 14 signings once everyone has left and when you look at how much a top championship player costs, I don’t think they’ll be able to get a squad that’ll compete for autos. Their fans talk about their youngsters stepping up, but only 2-3 of those are championship ready. Next season you’ll have Boro, scum, Burnley, and Norwich all ready to go, Wrexham and Birmingham spending big with decent championship sides already and whatever ever state Shef U and Southampton find themselves in. Just becuase they’re a “big club” doesn’t mean they’re going to walk it. If anything, the story of this season has been smaller, well run clubs overachieving. Footballs changed. West Ham are run like a 20th century team and they’re in a death spiral unless something massively changes.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,130
    edited May 28
    banknote0 said:
    I honestly think West Ham are closer to Leicester than to Newcastle when they were last in the champ. West Ham have:
    150 million black hole they need to fill through player sales 
    Reduced revenue 
    A small, crap squad
    Owner everyone hates
    No director of football
    No CEO 

    I think they’ll need to make around 14 signings once everyone has left and when you look at how much a top championship player costs, I don’t think they’ll be able to get a squad that’ll compete for autos. Their fans talk about their youngsters stepping up, but only 2-3 of those are championship ready. Next season you’ll have Boro, scum, Burnley, and Norwich all ready to go, Wrexham and Birmingham spending big with decent championship sides already and whatever ever state Shef U and Southampton find themselves in. Just becuase they’re a “big club” doesn’t mean they’re going to walk it. If anything, the story of this season has been smaller, well run clubs overachieving. Footballs changed. West Ham are run like a 20th century team and they’re in a death spiral unless something massively changes.
    Ah yes, Mike Ashley was roundly beloved at Newcastle as I seem to remember.
    Think they would've preferred no director of football over Dennis Wise.
    Apart from also having reduced income, I think you put forward a pretty strong argument. 
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,563
    banknote0
    Don't rule out Wolves. 
  • banknote0
    banknote0 Posts: 18
    banknote0
    Don't rule out Wolves. 
    Yeah they’re a tough one to call at the moment. Got no idea what players they’ll keep, if their players are any good, how much money they have. They do have a very good championship manager in Edwards and Armstrong is great at this level, so I expect they’ll be up there, but not confident to group them with the rest right now.  

    One more thing about West Ham is they’re insane to keep Nuno and not get Parker. Much as I hate the rat, he does get teams promoted (plus I’d celebrate harder than Arsenal fans winning the league if we beat West Ham with Judas in charge)
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,646
    banknote0 said:
    banknote0
    Don't rule out Wolves. 
    Yeah they’re a tough one to call at the moment. Got no idea what players they’ll keep, if their players are any good, how much money they have. They do have a very good championship manager in Edwards and Armstrong is great at this level, so I expect they’ll be up there, but not confident to group them with the rest right now.  

    One more thing about West Ham is they’re insane to keep Nuno and not get Parker. Much as I hate the rat, he does get teams promoted (plus I’d celebrate harder than Arsenal fans winning the league if we beat West Ham with Judas in charge)
    Nuno is a much better manager than Parker? He’s managed one season in the championship and won the league, but unlike Parker he has also had lots of good seasons in the prem. I think they’d be insane to get rid of Nuno and replace him with Parker 

    Only reason it’s surprising Nuno is going to be there is that most people thought he’d walk, because he’s easily got enough credit in the bank from his time at Forest to be considered for premier league jobs 
  • banknote0
    banknote0 Posts: 18
    Mike Ashley was roundly beloved at Newcastle I seem to remember.
    Ha, true, but championship is a different beast now. Newcastle basically signed a championship winning side for £60 million and blew everyone else out the water. What does that get you now? 4-5 top champ players?  Southampton spent 50 million and didn’t walk the league, Birmingham spent 30 to get mid table. 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,130
    banknote0 said:
    banknote0
    Don't rule out Wolves. 
    Yeah they’re a tough one to call at the moment. Got no idea what players they’ll keep, if their players are any good, how much money they have. They do have a very good championship manager in Edwards and Armstrong is great at this level, so I expect they’ll be up there, but not confident to group them with the rest right now.  

    One more thing about West Ham is they’re insane to keep Nuno and not get Parker. Much as I hate the rat, he does get teams promoted (plus I’d celebrate harder than Arsenal fans winning the league if we beat West Ham with Judas in charge)
    Was hoping Palace would go for Parker.
  • banknote0
    banknote0 Posts: 18
    NabySarr said:
    banknote0 said:
    banknote0
    Don't rule out Wolves. 
    Yeah they’re a tough one to call at the moment. Got no idea what players they’ll keep, if their players are any good, how much money they have. They do have a very good championship manager in Edwards and Armstrong is great at this level, so I expect they’ll be up there, but not confident to group them with the rest right now.  

    One more thing about West Ham is they’re insane to keep Nuno and not get Parker. Much as I hate the rat, he does get teams promoted (plus I’d celebrate harder than Arsenal fans winning the league if we beat West Ham with Judas in charge)
    Nuno is a much better manager than Parker? He’s managed one season in the championship and won the league, but unlike Parker he has also had lots of good seasons in the prem. I think they’d be insane to get rid of Nuno and replace him with Parker 

    Only reason it’s surprising Nuno is going to be there is that most people thought he’d walk, because he’s easily got enough credit in the bank from his time at Forest to be considered for premier league jobs 
    Nuno had one season in the champ with the greatest championship team of all time supplied by Jorge Mendes and Nuno did get West Ham relegated. Wasn’t like he was parachuted in towards the end of the season- he joined in September. They had their survival in their own hands and he didn’t get them over the line. Parker has got 3 teams promoted from the champ at first time of asking, which is unbelievable.  
    I also thought Nuno would walk as he’d be able to get a better paying role in the prem or Europe, but maybe they also promised to hand over the transfers reigns to uncle Jorge? 
  • banknote0
    banknote0 Posts: 18
    banknote0 said:
    banknote0
    Don't rule out Wolves. 
    Yeah they’re a tough one to call at the moment. Got no idea what players they’ll keep, if their players are any good, how much money they have. They do have a very good championship manager in Edwards and Armstrong is great at this level, so I expect they’ll be up there, but not confident to group them with the rest right now.  

    One more thing about West Ham is they’re insane to keep Nuno and not get Parker. Much as I hate the rat, he does get teams promoted (plus I’d celebrate harder than Arsenal fans winning the league if we beat West Ham with Judas in charge)
    Was hoping Palace would go for Parker.
    Get Lyle Taylor in too and then we can channel all our hate in one place 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,646
    banknote0 said:
    NabySarr said:
    banknote0 said:
    banknote0
    Don't rule out Wolves. 
    Yeah they’re a tough one to call at the moment. Got no idea what players they’ll keep, if their players are any good, how much money they have. They do have a very good championship manager in Edwards and Armstrong is great at this level, so I expect they’ll be up there, but not confident to group them with the rest right now.  

    One more thing about West Ham is they’re insane to keep Nuno and not get Parker. Much as I hate the rat, he does get teams promoted (plus I’d celebrate harder than Arsenal fans winning the league if we beat West Ham with Judas in charge)
    Nuno is a much better manager than Parker? He’s managed one season in the championship and won the league, but unlike Parker he has also had lots of good seasons in the prem. I think they’d be insane to get rid of Nuno and replace him with Parker 

    Only reason it’s surprising Nuno is going to be there is that most people thought he’d walk, because he’s easily got enough credit in the bank from his time at Forest to be considered for premier league jobs 
    Nuno had one season in the champ with the greatest championship team of all time supplied by Jorge Mendes and Nuno did get West Ham relegated. Wasn’t like he was parachuted in towards the end of the season- he joined in September. They had their survival in their own hands and he didn’t get them over the line. Parker has got 3 teams promoted from the champ at first time of asking, which is unbelievable.  
    I also thought Nuno would walk as he’d be able to get a better paying role in the prem or Europe, but maybe they also promised to hand over the transfers reigns to uncle Jorge? 
    Parker’s record with parachute championship teams is very impressive, but his premier league record is not. Especially with what was a very strong Fulham squad he still went down. Pretty much every team that’s been managed by Parker doesn’t rate him and the football he plays is quite boring 

    Nuno as recently as 2024/25 had Nottingham Forest competing for champions league football in only their 3rd season back in the prem. He’s simply a much better manager than Parker is. Both would probably have got West Ham promoted next season, but Nuno is far better at the next step after that 

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  • banknote0
    banknote0 Posts: 18
    NabySarr said:
    banknote0 said:
    NabySarr said:
    banknote0 said:
    banknote0
    Don't rule out Wolves. 
    Yeah they’re a tough one to call at the moment. Got no idea what players they’ll keep, if their players are any good, how much money they have. They do have a very good championship manager in Edwards and Armstrong is great at this level, so I expect they’ll be up there, but not confident to group them with the rest right now.  

    One more thing about West Ham is they’re insane to keep Nuno and not get Parker. Much as I hate the rat, he does get teams promoted (plus I’d celebrate harder than Arsenal fans winning the league if we beat West Ham with Judas in charge)
    Nuno is a much better manager than Parker? He’s managed one season in the championship and won the league, but unlike Parker he has also had lots of good seasons in the prem. I think they’d be insane to get rid of Nuno and replace him with Parker 

    Only reason it’s surprising Nuno is going to be there is that most people thought he’d walk, because he’s easily got enough credit in the bank from his time at Forest to be considered for premier league jobs 
    Nuno had one season in the champ with the greatest championship team of all time supplied by Jorge Mendes and Nuno did get West Ham relegated. Wasn’t like he was parachuted in towards the end of the season- he joined in September. They had their survival in their own hands and he didn’t get them over the line. Parker has got 3 teams promoted from the champ at first time of asking, which is unbelievable.  
    I also thought Nuno would walk as he’d be able to get a better paying role in the prem or Europe, but maybe they also promised to hand over the transfers reigns to uncle Jorge? 
    Parker’s record with parachute championship teams is very impressive, but his premier league record is not. Especially with what was a very strong Fulham squad he still went down. Pretty much every team that’s been managed by Parker doesn’t rate him and the football he plays is quite boring 

    Nuno as recently as 2024/25 had Nottingham Forest competing for champions league football in only their 3rd season back in the prem. He’s simply a much better manager than Parker is. Both would probably have got West Ham promoted next season, but Nuno is far better at the next step after that 
    Fair points about the potential with Nuno, but they need to get back to the prem asap and Parker is as good as a certainty if you appoint him. We shall see how they get on next year, but as I’ve said I think West Ham will be lower playoffs at best. Could turn very ugly very quickly at the London Stadium 
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,563
    banknote0
    One of my WH pals told me that Nuno was Jorge Mendes first ever client. 
  • banknote0
    banknote0 Posts: 18
    banknote0
    One of my WH pals told me that Nuno was Jorge Mendes first ever client. 
    Yep, that’s true. Met in a nightclub before Nuno was even an agent. Also means Mendes has quite a lot of sway over Nunos career 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,277
    MrOneLung said:
    I still think West Ham will average 50k next season
    I reckon they’ll start at 30k and if they do badly, they’ll be getting about the same attendances as us. Sure, they have a bigger fanbase than us but if they're not in the top 6 they’ll be mightily pissed off whereas our fanbase is happy to be 21st.
    So you think West Ham will average about the same official attendances as Charlton, for the season 2026/2027?

    You cannot possibly go on arbitrary "in my opinion" figures, as that is not verifiable.

    On that basis I bet you that West Ham have a higher official average attendance in The Championship next season for 2026/2027 than Charlton.

    The loser donates to the Upbeats.

    Name the stake you propose and I'll agree.
    I’m well aware of the principal of ’put your money where your mouth is’ but what I said clearly is based upon a conditional. We can revisit this IF they do badly. Anyway, I’ve never bet more than a fiver on anything in my life, and my wife and I prefer to give monthly money to charities of our choice.