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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,448
    EugenesAxe said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    EugenesAxe said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    cabbles said:
    Why haven’t we signed anyone yet?  Next season is looking like a write off already 
    How do know we not signed anyone window don’t open for a couple of weeks yet 
    Is this an anagram...
    It's not easy composing a message on here while in bushes, with one hand.
    Why...what' ya doin' with the other hand...🤔
    Binoculars obviously  ;)
    One hand in a bush is worth more than two formations half seen at distance through even the best binoculors 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,584
    EugenesAxe said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    EugenesAxe said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    cabbles said:
    Why haven’t we signed anyone yet?  Next season is looking like a write off already 
    How do know we not signed anyone window don’t open for a couple of weeks yet 
    Is this an anagram...
    It's not easy composing a message on here while in bushes, with one hand.
    Why...what' ya doin' with the other hand...🤔
    Binoculars obviously  ;)

  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 805
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,822
    We can sell Kanu without a replacement as we have the gas man returning after an impressive season. He should be the first name on the team sheet IMO
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,084
    MrBurns said:
    We can sell Kanu without a replacement as we have the gas man returning after an impressive season. He should be the first name on the team sheet IMO

    Another drain on our resources.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,326
    MrBurns said:
    We can sell Kanu without a replacement as we have the gas man returning after an impressive season. He should be the first name on the team sheet IMO

  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,556
    Id keep kanu 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,966
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,181
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Sorry, Kanu is nowhere near as good a finisher as Kelman who has shown he can score lots of goals in league 1 and if it wasn't for injury and sometimes getting dropped for no apparent reason he would have scored more goals than he did in the Championship last season.
    With regards to being a better presser in my view we always looked worse at pressing from the front when he was substituted.

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  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,675
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Excuse my poor memory but who was the replacement we had lined up for Alfie May. Surely we're not talking about the 'gasman' ? He is one of the worst 'strikers' I've ever seen & if NJ thinks he was a decent replacement then no wonder we signed so many duds last summer.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,006
    charltonbob said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Excuse my poor memory but who was the replacement we had lined up for Alfie May. Surely we're not talking about the 'gasman' ? He is one of the worst 'strikers' I've ever seen & if NJ thinks he was a decent replacement then no wonder we signed so many duds last summer.
    It was Godden 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,128
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.

    See we are going down to the silly season of the summer break put it down to the sun we had last week .. sell Kelman and keep Godden  and Kanu … come on seriously lol lol 

    Godden been offered a year but he has two offers on the table that are 2 year deals !!! 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,676
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Personally I think Kelman has potential and I’d be very annoyed to see him go.  He came in and delivered at important times.  Struggled to get a starting place at the beginning of the season and persevered, got his goal against Swansea and was unfortunate to get injured in the same game.  

    I recall the Oxford game at home.  We were on top but couldn’t break them down.  He comes on and unlocks the stalemate with that little bit of quality.  An important 3 points we wouldn’t have won without him.  Has a little run, a brace at Blackburn and then Jones drops him and we see him on and off for the remainder of the season, then scores that blinder against Hull.  

    I’m sticking my neck out and saying he’s delivering next season and will build on his contribution with better players around him.

    Apart from Kanu, Tanto and Ahadme as possible forwards to move on, I’d prefer Leaburn to move ahead of Kelman 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,584
    RonnieMoore said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.

    See we are going down to the silly season of the summer break put it down to the sun we had last week .. sell Kelman and keep Godden  and Kanu … come on seriously lol lol 

    Godden been offered a year but he has two offers on the table that are 2 year deals !!! 

    Where do you get this crap from...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,966
    LargeAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    No way we are selling Kelman unless for silly money. He’s a quality finisher, we should be building our team around him.
    NJ certainly didn't build his team around Kelman this season though. I'm not saying we should sell Kelman, but I'm sure it's an option for NJ, who seemed pretty unenthusiastic  about him, compared to the way he talked about Godden.

    southamptonaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Sorry, Kanu is nowhere near as good a finisher as Kelman who has shown he can score lots of goals in league 1 and if it wasn't for injury and sometimes getting dropped for no apparent reason he would have scored more goals than he did in the Championship last season.
    With regards to being a better presser in my view we always looked worse at pressing from the front when he was substituted.
    Kanu is younger. Kelman scored his goals in an Orient team who played a certain way, which we don't.

    We're not going to have both Kelman and Kanu in the squad next season, and Kanu might suit a role off the bench next season, IF NJ has another starting striker lined up, whereas Kelman would be too expensive to be just a sub.

    I'm sure there will be a surprise departure this summer. In the perfect world you just sell the deadwood, but transfer dealing rarely works like that.

  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 2,091
    killerandflash said:
    LargeAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    No way we are selling Kelman unless for silly money. He’s a quality finisher, we should be building our team around him.
    NJ certainly didn't build his team around Kelman this season though. I'm not saying we should sell Kelman, but I'm sure it's an option for NJ, who seemed pretty unenthusiastic  about him, compared to the way he talked about Godden.

    southamptonaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Sorry, Kanu is nowhere near as good a finisher as Kelman who has shown he can score lots of goals in league 1 and if it wasn't for injury and sometimes getting dropped for no apparent reason he would have scored more goals than he did in the Championship last season.
    With regards to being a better presser in my view we always looked worse at pressing from the front when he was substituted.
    Kanu is younger. Kelman scored his goals in an Orient team who played a certain way, which we don't.

    We're not going to have both Kelman and Kanu in the squad next season, and Kanu might suit a role off the bench next season, IF NJ has another starting striker lined up, whereas Kelman would be too expensive to be just a sub.

    I'm sure there will be a surprise departure this summer. In the perfect world you just sell the deadwood, but transfer dealing rarely works like that.

    Personally I would prefer it if Kaminski went .
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,129
    J BLOCK said:
    LargeAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    No way we are selling Kelman unless for silly money. He’s a quality finisher, we should be building our team around him.
    I must watch a different game of football. Yes he scored a wonder goal against Hull, but he’s way off it for me and done very little throughout the season. Not having him at all. 
    Not the biggest fan of Kelman but that Hull game was the first and only time this season we’ve played Kelman as a solo striker with the freedom to move into either channel and just run .

    In a 2 up top system he has to match up 1v1 with a defender with limited space where he gets absolutely bullied without the physical size of a dykes or Leaburn or Godden’s elite movement to get free in such tight areas so think we just won’t ever get the best out of him here. 

    Considering we want Dykes and Godden back it’s clear NJ still wants to play 2 up top which is a shame. Kelman will still be here because we’ve commited so much money into him and we won’t get that back but Jones clearly isn’t keen on him 

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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,391
    edited June 3
    RonnieMoore said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.

    See we are going down to the silly season of the summer break put it down to the sun we had last week .. sell Kelman and keep Godden  and Kanu … come on seriously lol lol 

    Godden been offered a year but he has two offers on the table that are 2 year deals !!! 
    More Colin Sams / Bexleyboy bullshit . Give it a rest please 
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,870
    We're not selling Kelman.

    End of.
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,483
    SDAddick said:
    We're not selling Kelman.

    End of.
    Pretty sure he didn’t say sell Kelman in the way you’ve read it.

  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,604
    Wait what? we're selling Kelman?
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,398
    More like Selman.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,084
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.

    3 million for Kelman :D
    His 'scoring' record before his ONE season with Orient was woeful. 
    We should have paid less than what you are saying we should sell him for.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,084
    edited June 3
    Bedsaddick said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.

    See we are going down to the silly season of the summer break put it down to the sun we had last week .. sell Kelman and keep Godden  and Kanu … come on seriously lol lol 

    Godden been offered a year but he has two offers on the table that are 2 year deals !!! 
    More Colin Sams / Bexleyboy bullshit . Give it a rest please 

    Only if the right thing is done and giving him a red card.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,633
    J BLOCK said:
    LargeAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Diebythesword said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    John_Fitzpatrick1 said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    No way we are selling Kelman unless for silly money. He’s a quality finisher, we should be building our team around him.
    I must watch a different game of football. Yes he scored a wonder goal against Hull, but he’s way off it for me and done very little throughout the season. Not having him at all. 
    You might be on a wind up, because way off it is harsh. 

    Scored 7 goals which is more than “done very little”. 

    I’m certain he would have scored more if not for the injury and Jones tinkering too much with starting forwards each game. 

    Bring in some more effective/creative midfielders and Kelman will score at least 10 league goals next season. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,148
    I think we can at least agree that being a striker is often about confidence. Charlie Kelman stepped up a division with a new club and it took him a while to settle into Nathan Jones demands and tactics which are very different to what CK thrived on at Orient. He then picked up an injury. He found himself in and out of the team. Hardly confidence building. Towards the end of the season with the injury behind him and in the side that looked better after January I think CK started to look like the player we hoped we’d signed. Jones has stated that Kelman is one of the best finishers he’s worked with and I think to even entertain the notion he could be sold is beyond silly. Him and a new partner up top with some better service and I think CK could easily hit 15 goals next season. 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,406
    So we swap out one of our strikers who scored 7 goals in the championship in 1532 mins at a rate of 2.4 for a striker who scored 7 in league one in a total of 2427 mins at a rate of 3.4 makes sense. If we bring in a better striker then we have competition and something still a bit proven not two risks instead of just one.

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