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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,107
    NabySarr said:
    Southbank said:
    shine166 said:
    Redhenry said:
    Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
    If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill. 
    The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
    Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give. 

    So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?
    Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).
    I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.

    I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard. 
    Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.

    I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.
    I think & hope Doc will stay as a squad player but agree with most of the other names you mention.

    The challenge will be finding clubs that can match the current wages that the likes of Kaminski, Burke & Knibbs earn. Can’t see there being a big queue of clubs willing to do that.
    Yeah, me too, I think. This isn't a list of players I necessarily think should be moved on, and I certainly doubt that they all would be. Apart from anything else, I just don't think we could release and replace that many platers in one summer.

    Leaburn is another one I would not want to give up on yet and probably also Knibbs and Kanu. And I'm on the fence about Karoy. I can just envisage that NJ, at some point at least, will have or will be considering if they are the right players to help take us forward. Some of them he may have thought about and decided, yes, he does want them around for at least one more season. Some he might want out. Some he might be willing to let go for a reasonable fee that bolsters his transfer kitty.

    But I do think they're all players that it's not inconceivable that they could be moved on.
    Kaminski - Not justifying wages 
    Mannion - May want 1st team football 
    Apter - Failed L1 loan not a Jones player
    Asiimwe - Needs regular mins to develop 
    Ramsay - 1 year left on deal 
    A.Mitchell - Stocks high wants move 
    Z. Mitchell - Needs mins to develop 
    Jones - 1 year left on deal 
    Macca - Proven he’s not at this level 
    Coventry - In and out of team, pref Coady 
    Doc - no on the ball ability 
    Anderson - Needs regular mins to develop
    JRC- Jones hardly used him 
    Carey - Output could possibly get big bid
    Fullah - Needs regular men’s football 
    Kelman - Jones doesn’t rate him
    Tanto - Failed L1 loan 
    TC - 1 year left on deal 
    Kanu - 1 year left on deal, stocks high, L1 loan?
    Dixon - Not good enough 
    Ahadme - Not good enough 
    Leaburn - Lack of consistency.

    now obviously we won’t sell everyone eg reckon Doc stays but genuinely believe there’s an argument that a lot of players have reasoning they could be moved on. 

    Sichenje (new signing), Burke (no club gambles on wages), Bell (good, injury prone + age won’t attract offers), Edwards (rated/good + injuries may put offers off), Knibbs (injuries give him BOD and won’t get offer that matches what we paid) are the only players I can’t see a reason we’d either be open to letting go or could tempt other clubs to make offers for those players. 

    Only thing we can do is wait to see what NJ has in store 

    I agree with the above and will not go down the road of who could go, suffice to say normally you'll see almost 10 new players come in.

    I’m hoping we need less than that this summer. Some interesting stats on number of signings and teams that do well tend to do less signings than average 



    It’s natural for us all to want lots of new players because it’s exciting. I think last season in the EFL showed that it’s actually better to have less overhaul, and actually develop the players you have (which seems to be a forgotten element of football these days as everyone wants instant success and lots of new signings). We obviously need some areas strengthened but I hope we don’t go too crazy and we let Jones do what he’s paid to do and develop our players 

    It seems that you have overlooked that we need to shift out a few.
    Who would you try to sell?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,107
    Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.

    His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor.  His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan. 

    I agree with the above.
    What I hope is that Chapple has a lot more influence and that the January window 'success' was down to him.  This window kept us up.

    Thing with Chappel is 6 weeks after he joined last summer we signed Kaminski for £1M on reportedly high wages from the club Chappel had worked at previously.  I know it's just one player, but I can't see how Chappel wasn't influential on that and it's a worry.

    It's silly to say recruitment has been poor when we have been promoted and stayed up but I definitely think there is huge room for improvement and if we are ever to move on like a Millwall, Coventry, Hull etc then it's the one part of the club that needs to massively over perform.

    I'd suggest that Kaminski was already signed before Chapple came in.
    I am of the camp that if we stay up this season it has been a success, we had five years in the third division so it's a long haul.
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,100
    Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.

    His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor.  His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan. 

    I agree with the above.
    What I hope is that Chapple has a lot more influence and that the January window 'success' was down to him.  This window kept us up.

    Thing with Chappel is 6 weeks after he joined last summer we signed Kaminski for £1M on reportedly high wages from the club Chappel had worked at previously.  I know it's just one player, but I can't see how Chappel wasn't influential on that and it's a worry.

    It's silly to say recruitment has been poor when we have been promoted and stayed up but I definitely think there is huge room for improvement and if we are ever to move on like a Millwall, Coventry, Hull etc then it's the one part of the club that needs to massively over perform.
    Fair enough, there's always room for improvement but there seems to be a mob on here who are never satisfied. We are a Championship club again and I happen to think we'll stay here for a while, which suits me fine.
  • stjohnshill
    stjohnshill Posts: 96
    edited June 5
    Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.

    His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor.  His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan. 
    Defensively most of his signings have been a success. It’s the other end of the pitch that concerns me. He clearly needs some help there.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,679
    Southbank said:
    shine166 said:
    Redhenry said:
    Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
    If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill. 
    The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
    Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give. 

    So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?
    Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).
    This will be hard with having one eye on how much dough we'd lose.
    Olaofe and Apter hopefully will come good.
    Not sure about Apter, Olaofe very poor signing, third division at best. 
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 793

    Kaminski - Not justifying wages 
    Mannion - May want 1st team football 
    Apter - Failed L1 loan not a Jones player
    Asiimwe - Needs regular mins to develop 
    Ramsay - 1 year left on deal 
    A.Mitchell - Stocks high wants move 
    Z. Mitchell - Needs mins to develop 
    Jones - 1 year left on deal 
    Macca - Proven he’s not at this level 
    Coventry - In and out of team, pref Coady 
    Doc - no on the ball ability 
    Anderson - Needs regular mins to develop
    JRC- Jones hardly used him 
    Carey - Output could possibly get big bid
    Fullah - Needs regular men’s football 
    Kelman - Jones doesn’t rate him
    Tanto - Failed L1 loan 
    TC - 1 year left on deal 
    Kanu - 1 year left on deal, stocks high, L1 loan?
    Dixon - Not good enough 
    Ahadme - Not good enough 
    Leaburn - Lack of consistency.


    You have only listed 22 players we should move out. This is the sort of lazy or sentimental decision-making which will doom us.

    Surely, with a bit of effort, you could add at least 10 more names to the list. Before WWII, Stalin killed or dismissed 80% of his officer corps, and still won the war. Decisive leadership! I am not saying we should go so far as actually killing any of them. That would probably breach FA regulations.
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 1,005
    Leaburn and TC are Lesgue one players.  I know they are youngish but I truly believe that. I’d rather they be loaned out to league one, do well and then sell but I just don’t think we will bring in enough talent to do that 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,107
    edited June 6
    Leaburn and TC are Lesgue one players.  I know they are youngish but I truly believe that. I’d rather they be loaned out to league one, do well and then sell but I just don’t think we will bring in enough talent to do that 
    Leaburn's Welling injury has hurt his career.  Campbell will not make 150 appearances in the Championship.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,459
    I truly believe that is rubbish. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,310
    London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is … 
    I’m assuming English isn’t your first language?
    Millwall fan, what can you expect?
    Who been going to the valley since 1968 and still owns Ronnie Moore little toe ….
    @Henry Irving could the museum procure this?
    We already have a couple of the "I helped buy Ronnie Moore" certificates that we're given out when fans tried to raise funds to help pay the £30k fee for the Rotherham Pele
    I remember contributing to that, he signed for the club, did we reach the target or did the club chip in?
    IIRC fans raised about £3k of the £30k

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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,398
    wolfgang said:

    Kaminski - Not justifying wages 
    Mannion - May want 1st team football 
    Apter - Failed L1 loan not a Jones player
    Asiimwe - Needs regular mins to develop 
    Ramsay - 1 year left on deal 
    A.Mitchell - Stocks high wants move 
    Z. Mitchell - Needs mins to develop 
    Jones - 1 year left on deal 
    Macca - Proven he’s not at this level 
    Coventry - In and out of team, pref Coady 
    Doc - no on the ball ability 
    Anderson - Needs regular mins to develop
    JRC- Jones hardly used him 
    Carey - Output could possibly get big bid
    Fullah - Needs regular men’s football 
    Kelman - Jones doesn’t rate him
    Tanto - Failed L1 loan 
    TC - 1 year left on deal 
    Kanu - 1 year left on deal, stocks high, L1 loan?
    Dixon - Not good enough 
    Ahadme - Not good enough 
    Leaburn - Lack of consistency.


    You have only listed 22 players we should move out. This is the sort of lazy or sentimental decision-making which will doom us.

    Surely, with a bit of effort, you could add at least 10 more names to the list. Before WWII, Stalin killed or dismissed 80% of his officer corps, and still won the war. Decisive leadership! I am not saying we should go so far as actually killing any of them. That would probably breach FA regulations.
    Stalin couldn’t remove the generals that actually won the war for him, the Russian Winter, the physical size of Russia, and the size of the population.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,143
    Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.

    His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor.  His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan. 
    Think it’s unfair to call his recruitment poor considering the absolute dross we’ve signed in the past. 

    From his current signings 

    Success
    Mannion 
    Fevs 
    Clarke
    Bree
    Mitchell 
    Bell
    Small
    Edwards
    Coady 
    Docherty 
    Berry 
    Carey
    Gilbert 
    Godden
    Dykes 

    Flopped 
    Kaminski 
    A.Campbell 
    Apter 
    Ahadme 
    Tanto 

    Filled their role 
    Bouzonis 
    Brooks
    McIntyre 
    Chambers 
    Hylton 

    Jury out - Fans will have different opinions
    Sichenje (not seen enough) 
    Burke (injuries, but cost nothing and good when fit)
    JRC (potentially better in a developed setup)
    Knibbs (injuries/Carey form)  
    Kelman (fee related) 

    Such a low risk not a big deal
    (minimal wages/short contract - more like a trial)
    Potts
    Dixon 
    Rousillon
    Hernandez 
    Lualua
    Wickham 

    From his 36 signings personally I can only give you 5 where I’ve seriously gone what have we done for me that’s a pretty good return rate and even then 1 of those in A.Campbell we were able to offload ASAP

  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,143
    wolfgang said:

    Kaminski - Not justifying wages 
    Mannion - May want 1st team football 
    Apter - Failed L1 loan not a Jones player
    Asiimwe - Needs regular mins to develop 
    Ramsay - 1 year left on deal 
    A.Mitchell - Stocks high wants move 
    Z. Mitchell - Needs mins to develop 
    Jones - 1 year left on deal 
    Macca - Proven he’s not at this level 
    Coventry - In and out of team, pref Coady 
    Doc - no on the ball ability 
    Anderson - Needs regular mins to develop
    JRC- Jones hardly used him 
    Carey - Output could possibly get big bid
    Fullah - Needs regular men’s football 
    Kelman - Jones doesn’t rate him
    Tanto - Failed L1 loan 
    TC - 1 year left on deal 
    Kanu - 1 year left on deal, stocks high, L1 loan?
    Dixon - Not good enough 
    Ahadme - Not good enough 
    Leaburn - Lack of consistency.


    You have only listed 22 players we should move out. This is the sort of lazy or sentimental decision-making which will doom us.

    Surely, with a bit of effort, you could add at least 10 more names to the list. Before WWII, Stalin killed or dismissed 80% of his officer corps, and still won the war. Decisive leadership! I am not saying we should go so far as actually killing any of them. That would probably breach FA regulations.
    Not saying we should move out I understand it’s not fifa or Football manager, just highlighting a lot of players have a genuine big reason why they could theoretically go rather than be guaranteed to stay here next year 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,842
    Leaburn and TC are Lesgue one players.  I know they are youngish but I truly believe that. I’d rather they be loaned out to league one, do well and then sell but I just don’t think we will bring in enough talent to do that 
    Lots of clubs in the championship would happily take TC. 

    I hope he stays but if he does leave I think some of you maybe suprised at how well he does at this level when playing in a better team + in the right position (winger)
    I wouldn't be surprised if we get quite a few offers for TC , teams that play with natural wingers would back themselves to sort out the rough edges in TCs game and get his end product sorted. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,137
    I will say don’t think NJ obsession with TC actually helped TC …. 

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  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,956
    London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is … 
    I’m assuming English isn’t your first language?
    Millwall fan, what can you expect?
    Who been going to the valley since 1968 and still owns Ronnie Moore little toe ….
    @Henry Irving could the museum procure this?
    We already have a couple of the "I helped buy Ronnie Moore" certificates that we're given out when fans tried to raise funds to help pay the £30k fee for the Rotherham Pele
    I remember contributing to that, he signed for the club, did we reach the target or did the club chip in?
    IIRC fans raised about £3k of the £30k
    I remember £8k
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,171
    I think our recruitment last summer was on the whole a failure but in the clubs defence I think Jones knew full well that the team that got promoted probably a year too soon would be cannon fodder in The Championship. Jones had to bolster all over the pitch and there just wasn’t a budget to rectify the shortcomings enough. I think they looked at players who they thought could improve us from league one and took a gamble. Unfortunately that gamble proved costly, particularly with Olaofe and Apter. Carey worked and I think JRC and Kelman have every chance of coming through. Kelman in particular I think will end up as decent business. I think it’s also worth considering the time the club had to get bodies through the door. After Wembley we were behind other teams with a smaller budget with a lot to do. I doubt there was too much of a contingency list of targets for whichever division we were in because getting promoted was to most of us quite a surprise, plus Chappell didn’t really have his feet under the table at that point. This summer has to be and I think will be different. Lessons surely have been learned and although there is much to do again I’m sure the planning will have been better. As for budget ?? We can only hope.
  • TheFXguy
    TheFXguy Posts: 175
    110 pages of nothing, and not even a Linda in sight. It’s the hope that kills you. But I’ll be back tomorrow hoping for >1000 posts, which is my barometer for genuine action 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,171
    TheFXguy said:
    110 pages of nothing, and not even a Linda in sight. It’s the hope that kills you. But I’ll be back tomorrow hoping for >1000 posts, which is my barometer for genuine action 
    Plus yours
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 8,284
    Why is it multiple people can't spell Chapple, Ramsay Vetokele etc?
  • I will say don’t think NJ obsession with TC actually helped TC …. 
    Oh, the irony of Colin Sams talking about someone else having an "obsession" with TC.
    This Ronnie guy has often got some shit opinions but publicising his full name is a pretty weird and immature thing to do - what was the benefit there?
  • Themightyath2
    Themightyath2 Posts: 958
    Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.

    His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor.  His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan. 
    Think it’s unfair to call his recruitment poor considering the absolute dross we’ve signed in the past. 

    From his current signings 

    Success
    Mannion 
    Fevs 
    Clarke
    Bree
    Mitchell 
    Bell
    Small
    Edwards
    Coady 
    Docherty 
    Berry 
    Carey
    Gilbert 
    Godden
    Dykes 

    Flopped 
    Kaminski 
    A.Campbell 
    Apter 
    Ahadme 
    Tanto 

    Filled their role 
    Bouzonis 
    Brooks
    McIntyre 
    Chambers 
    Hylton 

    Jury out - Fans will have different opinions
    Sichenje (not seen enough) 
    Burke (injuries, but cost nothing and good when fit)
    JRC (potentially better in a developed setup)
    Knibbs (injuries/Carey form)  
    Kelman (fee related) 

    Such a low risk not a big deal
    (minimal wages/short contract - more like a trial)
    Potts
    Dixon 
    Rousillon
    Hernandez 
    Lualua
    Wickham 

    From his 36 signings personally I can only give you 5 where I’ve seriously gone what have we done for me that’s a pretty good return rate and even then 1 of those in A.Campbell we were able to offload ASAP

    11 clean sheets in the Championship, and you call Kaminski a flop! Honestly, I think some people really don’t have a clue about football! 
  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 277
    I will say don’t think NJ obsession with TC actually helped TC …. 
    Oh, the irony of Colin Sams talking about someone else having an "obsession" with TC.
    This Ronnie guy has often got some shit opinions but publicising his full name is a pretty weird and immature thing to do - what was the benefit there?
    Totally agree.