Summer Window 2026 - Rumours and Discussion

Garrymanilow · June 15

I don't think I've really ever heard of an EFL keeper who hasn't been described by his own fans as not very good at dominating his area and dealing with high balls. We've heard it with every single keeper we've ever looked at and we'd probably say it about ours. All that to say I think the standard fans sometimes have for keepers being good aerially is slightly insane; they're either perfect or they're terrible. Kaminski would get grief for punching the ball away, Mannion was great at catching high balls until he wasn't and cost us a goal against a team who otherwise wouldn't have scored in a thousand years, which demonstrated the risk that comes with always committing to a catch. Kaminski did get up and make some very good catches at times this season, but he also tended to punch if he had a player jumping for the ball with him, which is something Mannion might have done well to consider against Weds. Being able to judge when to punch and when to catch is an impossible thing to get right every time and keepers seem to be defined by the occasions they get it wrong and it give a goal away instead of a more balanced look at their overall performance. I tend to just completely ignore other fans when they talk about their keeper not being good at dominating the box, I don't think there's many keepers out there we wouldn't hear that about.

I'm ok with a change in goal though. I don't think Kaminski is anywhere near as bad as some make out and the red herring about him being the highest paid player and that somehow dictating what level he should be at is stupid beyond belief, but the fact is his goals prevented score is at -6.34 which is not brilliant. That puts him 18th in the list of eligible keepers ahead of some pretty ropey players like Bazunu and Walsh. There's a huge drop between 17th and 18th as well, Nicolas Schmid is at -2.6. Everyone from 13 up has a positive score with Rushworth at a ridiculous 6.7. If you're only going to score a goal a game then you can't have your keeper shipping so many goals. He's only down as having 2 errors leading to goals which means that it's saveable shots like the ones at Portsmouth and Stoke that are costing us where it's not necessarily an error but he should do better. Mannion has a 1.87 goals prevented score, probably mostly from that Watford game, but he has the same number of errors leading to goals as Kaminski despite only playing 9 games instead of 37. He's also lucky it's only 2 because that Bristol City goal was 3 errors in the space of 2 seconds and maybe the worst moment of goalkeeping incompetence I've ever seen. I think it's undeniable that Kaminski didn't have as good a season as we would have hoped, the question is whether he'll perform better next season or we cut our losses and try again. Mannion is a decent L1 keeper and acceptable as a backup as long as he's not needed for a long run in the side

Charlton43 · June 15

Don’t think GK should be the main priority

NabySarr · June 15

Swisdom said:

if its true hes on £20k a week then it makes perfect sense to part with Kaminski if we can get 2 or 3 players within that budget

Although he is almost certainly our highest earner, I don’t think he’s on 20k a week. His rumoured wage seemed to increase every time he made a mistake last season. When we originally signed him it was reported 12k a week I believe. If I remember correctly came from a foreign article where a team was trying to sign him but quoted our offer of 12k a week being the reason he was heading to us instead. I’d guess the real number is closer to 12k than it is 20k

Bailey · June 15

Garrymanilow said:

I don't think I've really ever heard of an EFL keeper who hasn't been described by his own fans as not very good at dominating his area and dealing with high balls. We've heard it with every single keeper we've ever looked at and we'd probably say it about ours. All that to say I think the standard fans sometimes have for keepers being good aerially is slightly insane; they're either perfect or they're terrible. Kaminski would get grief for punching the ball away, Mannion was great at catching high balls until he wasn't and cost us a goal against a team who otherwise wouldn't have scored in a thousand years, which demonstrated the risk that comes with always committing to a catch. Kaminski did get up and make some very good catches at times this season, but he also tended to punch if he had a player jumping for the ball with him, which is something Mannion might have done well to consider against Weds. Being able to judge when to punch and when to catch is an impossible thing to get right every time and keepers seem to be defined by the occasions they get it wrong and it gives a goal away instead of a more balanced look at their overall performance. I tend to just completely ignore other fans when they talk about their keeper not being good at dominating the box, I don't think there's many keepers out there we wouldn't hear that about.

I'm ok with a change in goal though. I don't think Kaminski is anywhere near as bad as some make out and the red herring about him being the highest paid player and that somehow dictating what level he should be at is stupid beyond belief, but the fact is his goals prevented score is at -6.34 which is not brilliant. That puts him 18th in the list of eligible keepers ahead of some pretty ropey players like Bazunu and Walsh. There's a huge drop between 17th and 18th as well, Nicolas Schmid is at -2.6. Everyone from 13 up has a positive score with Rushworth at a ridiculous 6.7. If you're only going to score a goal a game then you can't have your keeper shipping so many goals. He's only down as having 2 errors leading to goals which means that it's saveable shots like the ones at Portsmouth and Stoke that are costing us where it's not necessarily an error but he should do better. Mannion has a 1.87 goals prevented score, probably mostly from that Watford game, but he has the same number of errors leading to goals as Kaminski despite only playing 9 games instead of 37. He's also lucky it's only 2 because that Bristol City goal was 3 errors in the space on 2 seconds and maybe the worst moment of goalkeeping incompetence I've ever seen. I think it's undeniable that Kaminski didn't have as good a season as we would have hoped, the question is whether he'll perform better next season or we cut our losses and try again. Mannion is a decent L1 keeper and acceptable as a backup as long as he's not needed for a long run in the side

I think Charlton started to look very wobbly at the back during Mannion's return in the second half of the season. He has put in some decent performances since he arrived at the club but this division is unforgiving and unforced errors will add to the pressure to perform. I agree that Kaminski is not as bad as people are trying to make out, and the criticism of Kaminski seemed fuelled by certain people determined to prove that Mannion should be number one. Thankfully or not, Mannion eventually lost the goalkeeping spot that he'd regained, by poor form, not because Kaminski was the preferred option. I think this year we may see Brooks getting opportunities, in the cup games for sure, but I think Charlton need to look at bringing another senior keeper in and perhaps loaning out either Mannion or Brooks.

Crispywood · June 15

Swisdom said:

if its true hes on £20k a week then it makes perfect sense to part with Kaminski if we can get 2 or 3 players within that budget

The difficult step is finding someone willing to pay those wages for him

NabySarr · June 15

Kaminski didn’t have a good season, but he has shown in his career before that he can be a good championship keeper. If Jones still believes he can get back to that level then that’s enough for me

ShootersHillGuru · June 15

Swisdom said:

if its true hes on £20k a week then it makes perfect sense to part with Kaminski if we can get 2 or 3 players within that budget

What’s the going rate for experienced Championship players though Swis ? If we want to progress and avoid another relegation battle we need to pay that going rate. I’ve no knowledge one way or the other but I doubt we get Championship experience in three players for £20k ?

fenaddick · June 15

Swisdom said:

if its true hes on £20k a week then it makes perfect sense to part with Kaminski if we can get 2 or 3 players within that budget

You are not getting three Championship level players on less than £7k a week average

RonnieMoore · June 15

Bailey said:

Garrymanilow said:

I don't think I've really ever heard of an EFL keeper who hasn't been described by his own fans as not very good at dominating his area and dealing with high balls. We've heard it with every single keeper we've ever looked at and we'd probably say it about ours. All that to say I think the standard fans sometimes have for keepers being good aerially is slightly insane; they're either perfect or they're terrible. Kaminski would get grief for punching the ball away, Mannion was great at catching high balls until he wasn't and cost us a goal against a team who otherwise wouldn't have scored in a thousand years, which demonstrated the risk that comes with always committing to a catch. Kaminski did get up and make some very good catches at times this season, but he also tended to punch if he had a player jumping for the ball with him, which is something Mannion might have done well to consider against Weds. Being able to judge when to punch and when to catch is an impossible thing to get right every time and keepers seem to be defined by the occasions they get it wrong and it gives a goal away instead of a more balanced look at their overall performance. I tend to just completely ignore other fans when they talk about their keeper not being good at dominating the box, I don't think there's many keepers out there we wouldn't hear that about.

I'm ok with a change in goal though. I don't think Kaminski is anywhere near as bad as some make out and the red herring about him being the highest paid player and that somehow dictating what level he should be at is stupid beyond belief, but the fact is his goals prevented score is at -6.34 which is not brilliant. That puts him 18th in the list of eligible keepers ahead of some pretty ropey players like Bazunu and Walsh. There's a huge drop between 17th and 18th as well, Nicolas Schmid is at -2.6. Everyone from 13 up has a positive score with Rushworth at a ridiculous 6.7. If you're only going to score a goal a game then you can't have your keeper shipping so many goals. He's only down as having 2 errors leading to goals which means that it's saveable shots like the ones at Portsmouth and Stoke that are costing us where it's not necessarily an error but he should do better. Mannion has a 1.87 goals prevented score, probably mostly from that Watford game, but he has the same number of errors leading to goals as Kaminski despite only playing 9 games instead of 37. He's also lucky it's only 2 because that Bristol City goal was 3 errors in the space on 2 seconds and maybe the worst moment of goalkeeping incompetence I've ever seen. I think it's undeniable that Kaminski didn't have as good a season as we would have hoped, the question is whether he'll perform better next season or we cut our losses and try again. Mannion is a decent L1 keeper and acceptable as a backup as long as he's not needed for a long run in the side

I think Charlton started to look very wobbly at the back during Mannion's return in the second half of the season. He has put in some decent performances since he arrived at the club but this division is unforgiving and unforced errors will add to the pressure to perform. I agree that Kaminski is not as bad as people are trying to make out, and the criticism of Kaminski seemed fuelled by certain people determined to prove that Mannion should be number one. Thankfully or not, Mannion eventually lost the goalkeeping spot that he'd regained, by poor form, not because Kaminski was the preferred option. I think this year we may see Brooks getting opportunities, in the cup games for sure, but I think Charlton need to look at bringing another senior keeper in and perhaps loaning out either Mannion or Brooks.

Kaminski one of the best keepers we had for a while .. he gives defence confidence and according to EFL in top 3 keepers in the championship .. fact is without him
this season we would have been bottom 3 … to waste budget on a position that we pretty strong in is ridiculous .. and to say he on 20k plus is very wide of the mark …

Henry Irving · June 15

Charlton43 said:

Don’t think GK should be the main priority

Maybe not THE main priority but it should be A priority.

Good, solid teams, generally, have good, solid keepers. Neither of ours are that, especially if we want to improve our league standing.

eastterrace6168 · June 15

The only people who know what Kaminski is on apart from the club are his misses (presumably) and his bank manager, speculation and gossip otherwise...🤷‍♂️

thenewbie · June 15

ShootersHillGuru said:

thenewbie said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I genuinely don’t see Kaminski not being in our starting lineup when the season starts.

I don't see us deliberately flogging him on. But if we get an offer that makes financial sense then I think a conversation would be had at least. I imagine there are a fair number of the squad in that same position - we aren't advertising them for sale but would consider it if approached.

Well that goes for every player on our books. My point probably badly made is that I think Jones is more than happy with Kaminski and all things being equal he’s our number one and Jones isn’t looking to upgrade on him.

I actually agree, maybe I didn't make my point well either. My thinking is that Jones will be quite happy to go into next season with Kaminski as his primary keeper and is not actively looking to change that.
On the other hand, if someone makes a good enough offer to make it worth selling, Jones is not SO taken by Kaminski that he would put his foot down over it and refuse it.

Henry Irving · June 15

The recruitment of Dick Law suggests to me that the club want to improve the quality and the scope of our recruitment.

As a club we've been behind just about every other club on everything due to the 10 years of mismanagement before GFP.

Slowly it seems we're rebuilding and recruitment from overseas is part of that.

Lincsaddick · June 15

Charlton43 said:

Don’t think GK should be the main priority

I have always taken the 'Brian Clough' view that goalkeeper is THE most important position in the team.

cafc_se7 · June 15

Bailey said:

Garrymanilow said:

I don't think I've really ever heard of an EFL keeper who hasn't been described by his own fans as not very good at dominating his area and dealing with high balls. We've heard it with every single keeper we've ever looked at and we'd probably say it about ours. All that to say I think the standard fans sometimes have for keepers being good aerially is slightly insane; they're either perfect or they're terrible. Kaminski would get grief for punching the ball away, Mannion was great at catching high balls until he wasn't and cost us a goal against a team who otherwise wouldn't have scored in a thousand years, which demonstrated the risk that comes with always committing to a catch. Kaminski did get up and make some very good catches at times this season, but he also tended to punch if he had a player jumping for the ball with him, which is something Mannion might have done well to consider against Weds. Being able to judge when to punch and when to catch is an impossible thing to get right every time and keepers seem to be defined by the occasions they get it wrong and it gives a goal away instead of a more balanced look at their overall performance. I tend to just completely ignore other fans when they talk about their keeper not being good at dominating the box, I don't think there's many keepers out there we wouldn't hear that about.

I'm ok with a change in goal though. I don't think Kaminski is anywhere near as bad as some make out and the red herring about him being the highest paid player and that somehow dictating what level he should be at is stupid beyond belief, but the fact is his goals prevented score is at -6.34 which is not brilliant. That puts him 18th in the list of eligible keepers ahead of some pretty ropey players like Bazunu and Walsh. There's a huge drop between 17th and 18th as well, Nicolas Schmid is at -2.6. Everyone from 13 up has a positive score with Rushworth at a ridiculous 6.7. If you're only going to score a goal a game then you can't have your keeper shipping so many goals. He's only down as having 2 errors leading to goals which means that it's saveable shots like the ones at Portsmouth and Stoke that are costing us where it's not necessarily an error but he should do better. Mannion has a 1.87 goals prevented score, probably mostly from that Watford game, but he has the same number of errors leading to goals as Kaminski despite only playing 9 games instead of 37. He's also lucky it's only 2 because that Bristol City goal was 3 errors in the space on 2 seconds and maybe the worst moment of goalkeeping incompetence I've ever seen. I think it's undeniable that Kaminski didn't have as good a season as we would have hoped, the question is whether he'll perform better next season or we cut our losses and try again. Mannion is a decent L1 keeper and acceptable as a backup as long as he's not needed for a long run in the side

I think Charlton started to look very wobbly at the back during Mannion's return in the second half of the season. He has put in some decent performances since he arrived at the club but this division is unforgiving and unforced errors will add to the pressure to perform. I agree that Kaminski is not as bad as people are trying to make out, and the criticism of Kaminski seemed fuelled by certain people determined to prove that Mannion should be number one. Thankfully or not, Mannion eventually lost the goalkeeping spot that he'd regained, by poor form, not because Kaminski was the preferred option. I think this year we may see Brooks getting opportunities, in the cup games for sure, but I think Charlton need to look at bringing another senior keeper in and perhaps loaning out either Mannion or Brooks.

That’s strange, I thought it was when we looked at our strongest. It’s a funny old game.

Garrymanilow · June 15

Bailey said:

Garrymanilow said:

I don't think I've really ever heard of an EFL keeper who hasn't been described by his own fans as not very good at dominating his area and dealing with high balls. We've heard it with every single keeper we've ever looked at and we'd probably say it about ours. All that to say I think the standard fans sometimes have for keepers being good aerially is slightly insane; they're either perfect or they're terrible. Kaminski would get grief for punching the ball away, Mannion was great at catching high balls until he wasn't and cost us a goal against a team who otherwise wouldn't have scored in a thousand years, which demonstrated the risk that comes with always committing to a catch. Kaminski did get up and make some very good catches at times this season, but he also tended to punch if he had a player jumping for the ball with him, which is something Mannion might have done well to consider against Weds. Being able to judge when to punch and when to catch is an impossible thing to get right every time and keepers seem to be defined by the occasions they get it wrong and it gives a goal away instead of a more balanced look at their overall performance. I tend to just completely ignore other fans when they talk about their keeper not being good at dominating the box, I don't think there's many keepers out there we wouldn't hear that about.

I'm ok with a change in goal though. I don't think Kaminski is anywhere near as bad as some make out and the red herring about him being the highest paid player and that somehow dictating what level he should be at is stupid beyond belief, but the fact is his goals prevented score is at -6.34 which is not brilliant. That puts him 18th in the list of eligible keepers ahead of some pretty ropey players like Bazunu and Walsh. There's a huge drop between 17th and 18th as well, Nicolas Schmid is at -2.6. Everyone from 13 up has a positive score with Rushworth at a ridiculous 6.7. If you're only going to score a goal a game then you can't have your keeper shipping so many goals. He's only down as having 2 errors leading to goals which means that it's saveable shots like the ones at Portsmouth and Stoke that are costing us where it's not necessarily an error but he should do better. Mannion has a 1.87 goals prevented score, probably mostly from that Watford game, but he has the same number of errors leading to goals as Kaminski despite only playing 9 games instead of 37. He's also lucky it's only 2 because that Bristol City goal was 3 errors in the space on 2 seconds and maybe the worst moment of goalkeeping incompetence I've ever seen. I think it's undeniable that Kaminski didn't have as good a season as we would have hoped, the question is whether he'll perform better next season or we cut our losses and try again. Mannion is a decent L1 keeper and acceptable as a backup as long as he's not needed for a long run in the side

I think Charlton started to look very wobbly at the back during Mannion's return in the second half of the season. He has put in some decent performances since he arrived at the club but this division is unforgiving and unforced errors will add to the pressure to perform. I agree that Kaminski is not as bad as people are trying to make out, and the criticism of Kaminski seemed fuelled by certain people determined to prove that Mannion should be number one. Thankfully or not, Mannion eventually lost the goalkeeping spot that he'd regained, by poor form, not because Kaminski was the preferred option. I think this year we may see Brooks getting opportunities, in the cup games for sure, but I think Charlton need to look at bringing another senior keeper in and perhaps loaning out either Mannion or Brooks.

We always do this with keepers. Between Wollacott, AMB, Isted, Mannion and Kaminski the one who isn't playing is always the better keeper. After the first few games of last season people were convinced Mannion was useless and AMB was the better keeper but after a few weeks of AMB all was forgiven. Mannion then earned his place by the end of the L1 season but people spent a lot of time this season screaming for Mannion to come in for Kaminski despite him showing he was a handy L1 keeper but not much more. Part of it is that we've struggled to find a consistent keeper over the past few years but this board loves to raise the profile of the keeper on the bench to well above his real level

killerandflash · June 15

thenewbie said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

thenewbie said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I genuinely don’t see Kaminski not being in our starting lineup when the season starts.

I don't see us deliberately flogging him on. But if we get an offer that makes financial sense then I think a conversation would be had at least. I imagine there are a fair number of the squad in that same position - we aren't advertising them for sale but would consider it if approached.

Well that goes for every player on our books. My point probably badly made is that I think Jones is more than happy with Kaminski and all things being equal he’s our number one and Jones isn’t looking to upgrade on him.

I actually agree, maybe I didn't make my point well either. My thinking is that Jones will be quite happy to go into next season with Kaminski as his primary keeper and is not actively looking to change that.
On the other hand, if someone makes a good enough offer to make it worth selling, Jones is not SO taken by Kaminski that he would put his foot down over it and refuse it.

I can't anyone making a move for Kaminski unless he especially wants to move and to an extent instigates it himself. He's not been brilliant, to attract interest from richer clubs, but then he hasn't been awful either. Any move would be sideways, and possibly for personal reasons.

What we're not going to do is splash out on another keeper, without any moves for either Kaminski or Mannion lined up.

jose · June 15

I would be surprised if any of the up and coming goalkeepers already at the club are ready yet.
So the talk of getting a goalkeeper definitely rests on the 'hmmn' level.
However amidst all this talk of signing players, there is always the possibility of utilising the players we already have in the Academy.
My priority remains clear the decks first.

eastterrace6168 · June 15

For the first time in quite a while I am really looking forward to this window and the upcoming season, call it rose tinted specs if you like, but this season is gonna be a goodun...👌

MartinCAFC · June 15

I’d say GK is the least of our concerns. Kaminsky and Mannion aren’t perfect but they’ll do for this season especially with Mannion entering the last year of his contract. If we’re going to sign a new GK may as well bring in a new proper first choice next summer if Mannion’s contract isn’t renewed.

Whatever budget we have this summer all needs to go on a LWB RWBx2 LCB CMx2 at the very least. For me a new GK is a nice to have but not an essential this summer.

Also 20k a week will not bring in 2 or 3 players good enough. We’re not shopping for League One punts again which is what 2 or 3 players gets you for 20k.

Bostonaddick · June 15

Swisdom said:

As much as we have to trust their judgement the club don't always get it right. Players i personally have recommended to the club in the last couple of years have gone on to do very well.

Irankunda of Watford (at the world cup) suggested when he was still playing in Australia - now valued at €8m
Mohamed Toure at Norwich - suggested when he was still playing in Australia - now valued at €8m
Martial Godo - thriving at Strasbourg. suggested when he was at Dartford playing with their u19s- now valued at €22m
Elliot Stroud - suggested just before Christmas - now doubled in value to €5m
Ali Aza1zeh - with Jordan at the world cup. He was available on a free last summer and wanted £50k a year so his FIFA Club Payment ($150k to $250k for world cup appearances would have covered his outlay and wages for 3-5 years.

Whilst we are good at nurturing our own academy players, there are some incredible talents out there and we, historically, have been a bit blinkered to this - presumably largely down to money. Hopefully this summer sees us pushing the boat out a bit and taking a few chances and exploiting what's out there. The Championship is massively attractive to players because it's more competitive and it pays more. We need to tap into that market a bit

Don’t hurt yourself patting yourself on your back.

Bailey · June 15

cafc_se7 said:

Bailey said:

Garrymanilow said:

I don't think I've really ever heard of an EFL keeper who hasn't been described by his own fans as not very good at dominating his area and dealing with high balls. We've heard it with every single keeper we've ever looked at and we'd probably say it about ours. All that to say I think the standard fans sometimes have for keepers being good aerially is slightly insane; they're either perfect or they're terrible. Kaminski would get grief for punching the ball away, Mannion was great at catching high balls until he wasn't and cost us a goal against a team who otherwise wouldn't have scored in a thousand years, which demonstrated the risk that comes with always committing to a catch. Kaminski did get up and make some very good catches at times this season, but he also tended to punch if he had a player jumping for the ball with him, which is something Mannion might have done well to consider against Weds. Being able to judge when to punch and when to catch is an impossible thing to get right every time and keepers seem to be defined by the occasions they get it wrong and it gives a goal away instead of a more balanced look at their overall performance. I tend to just completely ignore other fans when they talk about their keeper not being good at dominating the box, I don't think there's many keepers out there we wouldn't hear that about.

I'm ok with a change in goal though. I don't think Kaminski is anywhere near as bad as some make out and the red herring about him being the highest paid player and that somehow dictating what level he should be at is stupid beyond belief, but the fact is his goals prevented score is at -6.34 which is not brilliant. That puts him 18th in the list of eligible keepers ahead of some pretty ropey players like Bazunu and Walsh. There's a huge drop between 17th and 18th as well, Nicolas Schmid is at -2.6. Everyone from 13 up has a positive score with Rushworth at a ridiculous 6.7. If you're only going to score a goal a game then you can't have your keeper shipping so many goals. He's only down as having 2 errors leading to goals which means that it's saveable shots like the ones at Portsmouth and Stoke that are costing us where it's not necessarily an error but he should do better. Mannion has a 1.87 goals prevented score, probably mostly from that Watford game, but he has the same number of errors leading to goals as Kaminski despite only playing 9 games instead of 37. He's also lucky it's only 2 because that Bristol City goal was 3 errors in the space on 2 seconds and maybe the worst moment of goalkeeping incompetence I've ever seen. I think it's undeniable that Kaminski didn't have as good a season as we would have hoped, the question is whether he'll perform better next season or we cut our losses and try again. Mannion is a decent L1 keeper and acceptable as a backup as long as he's not needed for a long run in the side

I think Charlton started to look very wobbly at the back during Mannion's return in the second half of the season. He has put in some decent performances since he arrived at the club but this division is unforgiving and unforced errors will add to the pressure to perform. I agree that Kaminski is not as bad as people are trying to make out, and the criticism of Kaminski seemed fuelled by certain people determined to prove that Mannion should be number one. Thankfully or not, Mannion eventually lost the goalkeeping spot that he'd regained, by poor form, not because Kaminski was the preferred option. I think this year we may see Brooks getting opportunities, in the cup games for sure, but I think Charlton need to look at bringing another senior keeper in and perhaps loaning out either Mannion or Brooks.

That’s strange, I thought it was when we looked at our strongest. It’s a funny old game.

We got one win at home with Mannion between the sticks, after that we couldn't buy a win at home and lost five on the bounce. It clearly wasn't totally down to Mannion and from my perspective, there some very lack lustre performances throughout the team after the Oxford away fixture, which I think put us nine points clear of the bottom three and most everyone was thinking that Charlton were safe. I think, that if a senior goalkeeper were available, then Charlton should look at it, if Nathan Jones thinks 'nah it's not for us' then fine we go with Kaminski.

Rothko · June 15

Bostonaddick said:

Swisdom said:

As much as we have to trust their judgement the club don't always get it right. Players i personally have recommended to the club in the last couple of years have gone on to do very well.

Irankunda of Watford (at the world cup) suggested when he was still playing in Australia - now valued at €8m
Mohamed Toure at Norwich - suggested when he was still playing in Australia - now valued at €8m
Martial Godo - thriving at Strasbourg. suggested when he was at Dartford playing with their u19s- now valued at €22m
Elliot Stroud - suggested just before Christmas - now doubled in value to €5m
Ali Aza1zeh - with Jordan at the world cup. He was available on a free last summer and wanted £50k a year so his FIFA Club Payment ($150k to $250k for world cup appearances would have covered his outlay and wages for 3-5 years.

Whilst we are good at nurturing our own academy players, there are some incredible talents out there and we, historically, have been a bit blinkered to this - presumably largely down to money. Hopefully this summer sees us pushing the boat out a bit and taking a few chances and exploiting what's out there. The Championship is massively attractive to players because it's more competitive and it pays more. We need to tap into that market a bit

Don’t hurt yourself patting yourself on your back.

ain’t it just that, success has a million fathers, failure is orphan

cafc_se7 · June 15

Bailey said:

cafc_se7 said:

Bailey said:

Garrymanilow said:

I don't think I've really ever heard of an EFL keeper who hasn't been described by his own fans as not very good at dominating his area and dealing with high balls. We've heard it with every single keeper we've ever looked at and we'd probably say it about ours. All that to say I think the standard fans sometimes have for keepers being good aerially is slightly insane; they're either perfect or they're terrible. Kaminski would get grief for punching the ball away, Mannion was great at catching high balls until he wasn't and cost us a goal against a team who otherwise wouldn't have scored in a thousand years, which demonstrated the risk that comes with always committing to a catch. Kaminski did get up and make some very good catches at times this season, but he also tended to punch if he had a player jumping for the ball with him, which is something Mannion might have done well to consider against Weds. Being able to judge when to punch and when to catch is an impossible thing to get right every time and keepers seem to be defined by the occasions they get it wrong and it gives a goal away instead of a more balanced look at their overall performance. I tend to just completely ignore other fans when they talk about their keeper not being good at dominating the box, I don't think there's many keepers out there we wouldn't hear that about.

I'm ok with a change in goal though. I don't think Kaminski is anywhere near as bad as some make out and the red herring about him being the highest paid player and that somehow dictating what level he should be at is stupid beyond belief, but the fact is his goals prevented score is at -6.34 which is not brilliant. That puts him 18th in the list of eligible keepers ahead of some pretty ropey players like Bazunu and Walsh. There's a huge drop between 17th and 18th as well, Nicolas Schmid is at -2.6. Everyone from 13 up has a positive score with Rushworth at a ridiculous 6.7. If you're only going to score a goal a game then you can't have your keeper shipping so many goals. He's only down as having 2 errors leading to goals which means that it's saveable shots like the ones at Portsmouth and Stoke that are costing us where it's not necessarily an error but he should do better. Mannion has a 1.87 goals prevented score, probably mostly from that Watford game, but he has the same number of errors leading to goals as Kaminski despite only playing 9 games instead of 37. He's also lucky it's only 2 because that Bristol City goal was 3 errors in the space on 2 seconds and maybe the worst moment of goalkeeping incompetence I've ever seen. I think it's undeniable that Kaminski didn't have as good a season as we would have hoped, the question is whether he'll perform better next season or we cut our losses and try again. Mannion is a decent L1 keeper and acceptable as a backup as long as he's not needed for a long run in the side

I think Charlton started to look very wobbly at the back during Mannion's return in the second half of the season. He has put in some decent performances since he arrived at the club but this division is unforgiving and unforced errors will add to the pressure to perform. I agree that Kaminski is not as bad as people are trying to make out, and the criticism of Kaminski seemed fuelled by certain people determined to prove that Mannion should be number one. Thankfully or not, Mannion eventually lost the goalkeeping spot that he'd regained, by poor form, not because Kaminski was the preferred option. I think this year we may see Brooks getting opportunities, in the cup games for sure, but I think Charlton need to look at bringing another senior keeper in and perhaps loaning out either Mannion or Brooks.

That’s strange, I thought it was when we looked at our strongest. It’s a funny old game.

We got one win at home with Mannion between the sticks, after that we couldn't buy a win at home and lost five on the bounce. It clearly wasn't totally down to Mannion and from my perspective, there some very lack lustre performances throughout the team after the Oxford away fixture, which I think put us nine points clear of the bottom three and most everyone was thinking that Charlton were safe. I think, that if a senior goalkeeper were available, then Charlton should look at it, if Nathan Jones thinks 'nah it's not for us' then fine we go with Kaminski.

I’m honestly not convinced Kaminski is any better than Mannion.

cfgs · June 15

Rothko said:

Bostonaddick said:

Swisdom said:

As much as we have to trust their judgement the club don't always get it right. Players i personally have recommended to the club in the last couple of years have gone on to do very well.

Irankunda of Watford (at the world cup) suggested when he was still playing in Australia - now valued at €8m
Mohamed Toure at Norwich - suggested when he was still playing in Australia - now valued at €8m
Martial Godo - thriving at Strasbourg. suggested when he was at Dartford playing with their u19s- now valued at €22m
Elliot Stroud - suggested just before Christmas - now doubled in value to €5m
Ali Aza1zeh - with Jordan at the world cup. He was available on a free last summer and wanted £50k a year so his FIFA Club Payment ($150k to $250k for world cup appearances would have covered his outlay and wages for 3-5 years.

Whilst we are good at nurturing our own academy players, there are some incredible talents out there and we, historically, have been a bit blinkered to this - presumably largely down to money. Hopefully this summer sees us pushing the boat out a bit and taking a few chances and exploiting what's out there. The Championship is massively attractive to players because it's more competitive and it pays more. We need to tap into that market a bit

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Return of the SE7 · June 15

Got to be the worst Rumours thread ever.

clive · June 15

The list of released and retained players at EFL Clubs has been published following the conclusion of the 2025/26 season. See the full list via the link below

https://www.efl.com/news/2026/june/15/efl-professional-retain-list-2025-26/

fenaddick · June 15

Return of the SE7 said:

Got to be the worst Rumours thread ever.

We're only getting started. Over 2 months of this left

YannTheMann · June 15

It's times like these I miss Leaky Charlie Methven putting out any news into the world to give this thread something to talk about. Hoping we announce one this week

NabySarr · June 15

YannTheMann said:

It's times like these I miss Leaky Charlie Methven putting out any news into the world to give this thread something to talk about. Hoping we announce one this week

We will start pre-season in around 2 weeks so you’d hope there will be at least something before then

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