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2 day London Marathon next year?

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,256
    msomerton said:
    msomerton said:
    should we just lock people in their homes, so the self indulgent marathon runs can do every day
    Greenwich already closes for the Greenwich half marathon as well as the London marathon.

    There isn't a Greenwich half-marathon. There was a rubbish attempt at one about 15 years ago (Run to the Beat) which moved to Wembley then mercifully disappeared.

    There's The Big Half, which takes place in September - starts near Tower Bridge, does a chunk of the marathon course backwards and ends at the Cutty Sark and closes the one-way system off to most traffic. Seems to work pretty well - not massively busy like the marathon is, the buses keep running through Greenwich and you can even nip across the road a lot of the time. I don't think it locks people in their homes...
    The buses hardly run, because of the traffic jam it causes all the way back to New Cross, the road was closed off and the bus I was on terminated just about past Maze hill, walked to the Charlton Womans game from
    there there , the pavements littered with loads of drinks bottles , get back after the game hardly easier as they
    where still clearing away the road barriers.
    The club should have had the match moved - might be one for  @castrust to feed back to the club as the date's set a year in advance (September 6th this year).
    Noted, thanks. That’s the opening weekend of the WSL which will be a big occasion for us - not sure if we have the opportunity to request a home or away fixture. 
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,237
    follett said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    Most people want to be a part of one of the Worlds most famous marathons. It’s not just the distance, but the event. 

    The week before normally has the Southampton marathon, with relatively easy entry, but I have no interest in doing two laps of Southampton…
    I’ve run a few and nothing even comes close to how special London is, an incredible event to be part of 

    Exactly this. Its not the distance so much, its more the event which is a mind blowing experience.

    I do think the 2 days will dilute it quite a bit. Cannot see the atmosphere being the same across 2 days.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,011
    follett said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    Most people want to be a part of one of the Worlds most famous marathons. It’s not just the distance, but the event. 

    The week before normally has the Southampton marathon, with relatively easy entry, but I have no interest in doing two laps of Southampton…
    I’ve run a few and nothing even comes close to how special London is, an incredible event to be part of 

    Exactly this. Its not the distance so much, its more the event which is a mind blowing experience.

    I do think the 2 days will dilute it quite a bit. Cannot see the atmosphere being the same across 2 days.
    I'm wondering how it's going to impact the volunteer side of things and charities that in previous years would have quite happily had a cheer point on the Sunday for their runners all of a sudden might have runners on both days. 
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 1,299
    WSS said:
    Yay, I can rejected twice this year.
    Twice a week was usual at Zens in Dartford
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,548
    edited June 19
    On different visits?
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 8,307
    Ffs
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,458
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    Same logic that people go overseas on holiday and dont just pop to Clacton. 
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,784
    I hope the EFL fixture computer has been programmed to avoid CAFC home game over that weekend.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,256
    Dansk_Red said:
    I hope the EFL fixture computer has been programmed to avoid CAFC home game over that weekend.
    Club are aware
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 5,084
    shine166 said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    Same logic that people go overseas on holiday and dont just pop to Clacton. 
    Not when lots of people don't realise other marathons (or holidays in your comparison) are available.

    Also by spreading crowds over 2 days it may no longer be The Marathon of Europe, and arguably beyond. 

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  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,431
    RedPanda said:
    No shine166 said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    Same logic that people go overseas on holiday and dont just pop to Clacton. 
    Not when lots of people don't realise other marathons (or holidays in your comparison) are available.

    Also by spreading crowds over 2 days it may no longer be The Marathon of Europe, and arguably beyond. 
    I’m pretty certain that the vast majority of people contemplating the London Marathon would be fully aware that other marathons or distance runs are available.

    its simply that they are not world famous events on one of the greatest marathon courses in the world. 

    It’s the event more than the distance. 
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,254
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    I’ve been lucky enough to run the London Marathon twice. The draw is the crowds, the sights, the size of the field and the medical and logistical support.
    Running a small marathon where you might be on your own for several miles has no appeal to the mass of people running London.
    And it’s my local marathon.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,458
    RedPanda said:
    shine166 said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    Same logic that people go overseas on holiday and dont just pop to Clacton. 
    Not when lots of people don't realise other marathons (or holidays in your comparison) are available.

    Also by spreading crowds over 2 days it may no longer be The Marathon of Europe, and arguably beyond. 
    Its supposedly a 1 off, although if its a success itl probably end up being 2 days and both at the current capacity. There was over a million people applied this year.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,233
    iainment said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    I’ve been lucky enough to run the London Marathon twice. The draw is the crowds, the sights, the size of the field and the medical and logistical support.
    Running a small marathon where you might be on your own for several miles has no appeal to the mass of people running London.
    And it’s my local marathon.
    In 98 I ran it in 5 hours 7 minutes.  It'd probably take 5 days now.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,431
    iainment said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    I’ve been lucky enough to run the London Marathon twice. The draw is the crowds, the sights, the size of the field and the medical and logistical support.
    Running a small marathon where you might be on your own for several miles has no appeal to the mass of people running London.
    And it’s my local marathon.
    In 98 I ran it in 5 hours 7 minutes.  It'd probably take 5 days now.
    I’ve done it twice. 5hrs 25 first time round , 4 hrs 25 next. 

    At that rate of progression, statically I will win it in a world record time if I can get three more ballot places. 

    Certainly something to aim for.
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,267
    If they can work out the logistics as Marcus says then I dont see why this can't be every year going forward, rather than just a one off in 2027 - I've been damned lucky in the past, I entered the ballot four times, and got in on three of those times (only ran the once) - But you read stories of people trying for about a decade with no luck, so hopefully will give more opportunities
    I got in by being a volunteer the previous year, which was arguably a more enjoyable experience than the run itself.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,233
    edited June 20
    iainment said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    I’ve been lucky enough to run the London Marathon twice. The draw is the crowds, the sights, the size of the field and the medical and logistical support.
    Running a small marathon where you might be on your own for several miles has no appeal to the mass of people running London.
    And it’s my local marathon.
    In 98 I ran it in 5 hours 7 minutes.  It'd probably take 5 days now.
    I’ve done it twice. 5hrs 25 first time round , 4 hrs 25 next. 

    At that rate of progression, statically I will win it in a world record time if I can get three more ballot places. 

    Certainly something to aim for.
    I bet there will be loads running it both days.

    All respect to you for doing it twice, a massive achievement doing it once.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,548
    I bet there will be very few people running it both days as the ballot will not allow it, nor will clubs and you would almost certainly have to register under different names with two different methods or place owners (ballot + charity or two different charities) to get two places.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,254
    iainment said:
    RedPanda said:
    It does feel over the top. There are dozens of grass roots marathons around that people aren't aware of, if they really do want to run 26 miles. Some are as cheap as £20, if you don't mind doing laps or out and backs. 
    I’ve been lucky enough to run the London Marathon twice. The draw is the crowds, the sights, the size of the field and the medical and logistical support.
    Running a small marathon where you might be on your own for several miles has no appeal to the mass of people running London.
    And it’s my local marathon.
    In 98 I ran it in 5 hours 7 minutes.  It'd probably take 5 days now.
    As would I!
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 8,084

    Pheidippides will be spinning in his grave. 


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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,233
    I bet there will be very few people running it both days as the ballot will not allow it, nor will clubs and you would almost certainly have to register under different names with two different methods or place owners (ballot + charity or two different charities) to get two places.
    It's for the latter part of this post I feel a lot will run it twice.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,599
    I bet there will be very few people running it both days as the ballot will not allow it, nor will clubs and you would almost certainly have to register under different names with two different methods or place owners (ballot + charity or two different charities) to get two places.
    It's for the latter part of this post I feel a lot will run it twice.
    You’d have to be raising a huge amount of money. Most charities will be hugely oversubscribed already too. Id be amazed if someone managed to get two charity places 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,431
    edited June 20
    fenaddick said:
    I bet there will be very few people running it both days as the ballot will not allow it, nor will clubs and you would almost certainly have to register under different names with two different methods or place owners (ballot + charity or two different charities) to get two places.
    It's for the latter part of this post I feel a lot will run it twice.
    You’d have to be raising a huge amount of money. Most charities will be hugely oversubscribed already too. Id be amazed if someone managed to get two charity places 
    I would wager that the terms of entry (bearing in mind the ballot is already closed) will prevent anyone (officially) running both. 

    Moreover, charity places are already oversubscribed - no charity needs to have one runnner doing both days - they will benefit from an increase in unique runners.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,902
    shirty5 said:
    Us and Millwall away from home that Weekend or a Friday/Monday Night home game for either club if the League was not aware of this 2 day event now happening 
    Home to Wrexham that weekend. Friday or Monday night then
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,011
    shirty5 said:
    shirty5 said:
    Us and Millwall away from home that Weekend or a Friday/Monday Night home game for either club if the League was not aware of this 2 day event now happening 
    Home to Wrexham that weekend. Friday or Monday night then
    Friday on Sky would be my guess. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,599
    Hadn’t realised it was FA Cup semi final weekend too. That will be chaos. Unless it always is that weekend and I’ve just never noticed
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,784
    Dansk_Red said:
    I hope the EFL fixture computer has been programmed to avoid CAFC home game over that weekend.
    Club are aware
    Did not stop them arranging a match at the valley on the 24th (Wrexham)
  • OhMyGodden
    OhMyGodden Posts: 390
    Dansk_Red said:
    Dansk_Red said:
    I hope the EFL fixture computer has been programmed to avoid CAFC home game over that weekend.
    Club are aware
    Did not stop them arranging a match at the valley on the 24th (Wrexham)
    What makes you think the club arranged it themselves?
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,784
    I was commeting on Wedgie Addick post.