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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,895
    And it was the worst kind of offside. Those kind of goals just simply should stand. The offside rule was introduced to stop goal hanging - there is no meaningful advantage from your big toe being in advance of the last but one defender.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,736
    edited June 27
    Gutted for Iran!! What a wonderful moment and celebration for everyone. Ruined by VAR.

    So harsh to be played onside by a defender yet given offside for being ahead of the ‘second’ defender. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,895
    On the upside, another strong result for the Scots!


  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,436
    And it was the worst kind of offside. Those kind of goals just simply should stand. The offside rule was introduced to stop goal hanging - there is no meaningful advantage from your big toe being in advance of the last but one defender.
    Offside? Thought it was for the ball hitting a hand? Terrible decision whatever. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,921
    edited June 27
    And it was the worst kind of offside. Those kind of goals just simply should stand. The offside rule was introduced to stop goal hanging - there is no meaningful advantage from your big toe being in advance of the last but one defender.
    The line between onside and offside has to be somewhere - if you moved it 10cm to allow a margin for the attacker, we’d be upset about moments being ruined when they are 11cm offside.

    In fact I think such a margin exists these days? Or maybe only in the Premier League. I don’t know I don’t really keep up with it all anymore.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,921
    edited June 27
    As it stands, the likely round of 32:

    Germany v Paraguay
    France v Sweden
    South Korea v Switzerland
    Morocco v Netherlands

    Croatia v Portugal
    Spain v Austria
    USA v Bosnia
    Belgium v Czechia

    Brazil v Japan
    Ivory Coast v Norway
    Mexico v Scotland
    England v DR Congo

    Argentina v Uruguay
    Australia v Egypt
    Canada v Algeria
    Colombia v Ghana
    Now everyone has played twice, and running thousands of simulations based on Betfair Exchange odds for the final group games, here are the most likely R32 fixtures:

    Germany v Paraguay (46.5% likely)
    France v Sweden (50.2%)
    South Korea v Switzerland (49.9%)
    Netherlands v Morocco (53.5%)

    Colombia v Croatia (23.2%)
    Spain v Austria (61.3%)
    USA v Bosnia (69.3%)
    Egypt v Czechia (13.4%)

    Brazil v Japan (39.7%)
    Ivory Coast v Norway (78.1%)
    Mexico v Scotland (49.8%)
    England v DR Congo (44.6%)

    Argentina v Cape Verde (55.0%)
    Australia v Belgium (36.5%)
    Canada v Algeria (17.3%)
    Portugal v Ghana (27.7%)

    Teams in bold are confirmed in position as group winners.



    Following the completion of Groups A, B and C:

    Germany v Paraguay (46.1%)
    France v Sweden (39.9%)
    South Africa v Canada (100%)
    Netherlands v Morocco (80.7%)

    Portugal v Croatia (23.0%)
    Spain v Austria (61.6%)
    USA v Bosnia (99.9%)
    Egypt v South Korea (50.2%)

    Brazil v Japan (61.8%)
    Ivory Coast v Norway (78.4%)
    Mexico v Scotland (23.5%)
    England v DR Congo (45.0%)

    Argentina v Cape Verde (55.6%)
    Australia v Belgium (35.6%)
    Switzerland v Algeria (42.6%)
    Colombia v Ghana (28.0%)

    Teams in bold locked in position. Simulation cannot make up its mind on which ties Colombia and Portugal end up in - a true coin toss scenario. 

    Other than that, it looks like Scotland are the most vulnerable with Mexico having numerous possible opponents.
    Following completion of Groups D, E, F:

    Germany v Paraguay (99.6%)
    France v Sweden (80.8%)
    South Africa v Canada
    Netherlands v Morocco

    Colombia v Croatia (22.8%)
    Spain v Austria (61.6%)
    USA v Bosnia
    Egypt v South Korea (33.0%)

    Brazil v Japan
    Ivory Coast v Norway (81.1%)
    Mexico v Ecuador (80.6%)
    England v DR Congo (46.5%)

    Argentina v Cape Verde (51.6%)
    Australia v Belgium (54.0%)
    Switzerland v Iran (26.2%)
    Portugal v Ghana (27.5%)

    Four ties in bold are confirmed so far. Teams in bold locked in position and are waiting on their opponent to be confirmed.
    Following completion of Groups G, H, I:

    Germany v Paraguay
    France v Sweden
    South Africa v Canada
    Netherlands v Morocco

    Portugal v Croatia (22.8%)
    Spain v Austria (76.1%)
    USA v Bosnia
    Belgium v Senegal (45.3%)

    Brazil v Japan
    Ivory Coast v Norway
    Mexico v Ecuador (99.9%)
    England v DR Congo (47.4%)

    Argentina v Cape Verde
    Australia v Egypt
    Switzerland v Iran (86.6%)
    Colombia v Ghana (26.6%)

    Nine ties are confirmed, with a further four teams waiting to have their opponent confirmed. The last three ties (2K v 2L, 1L v 3I/J/K, 1K v 3E/I/L) have neither team confirmed yet.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,635
    Cape Verde - 3 points, group runner up, national heroes.
    Turkey - 3 points, bottom of their group, go home in disgrace.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,635
    Following completion of Group H, only 15 out of 495 possible combinations remain. For the winners of England’s group:

    8/15 1L v 3K (DR Congo)
    6/15 1L v 3I (Senegal)
    1/15 1L v 3J (Algeria?)
    I know we play 3rd from group I/J/K but how does it get decided who?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,635
    I've only just realised that if Portugal beat Colombia tonight and win group K, then they will probably face Argentina in the quarter final.

    Messi v Ronaldo in Kansas 11th July. Ticket resale sites will be going crazy.
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,581
    Eli Just nut megged de Bruyne . Nothing else matters.

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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,895
    edited June 27
    And it was the worst kind of offside. Those kind of goals just simply should stand. The offside rule was introduced to stop goal hanging - there is no meaningful advantage from your big toe being in advance of the last but one defender.
    The line between onside and offside has to be somewhere - if you moved it 10cm to allow a margin for the attacker, we’d be upset about moments being ruined when they are 11cm offside.

    In fact I think such a margin exists these days? Or maybe only in the Premier League. I don’t know I don’t really keep up with it all anymore.
    You might, I wouldn't. To me though, it's not as black and white as that. We want to see goals and we want to see moments like what would've been a dramatic last minute winner for Iran.

    I would like to see some consideration for 1) Could the attacker have been reasonably expected to know if they were onside or not? In the instance of tonight's "goal" I'm sure the Iran player thought he was in line and there's no way anyone could have judged otherwise in the heat of the moment and 2) even if they are technically marginally offside, did it gain them a meaningful advantage? I realize that brings some human judgement back into it and we will never have zero controversies, but at least it would be human judgement using slowed down replays and definitive measurements of how far ahead of the line a player is. I'd just like to see a bit more consideration for what a player can reasonably be expected to judge on the field and the spirit of the law so we don't kill goals unnecessarily.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,635
    And it was the worst kind of offside. Those kind of goals just simply should stand. The offside rule was introduced to stop goal hanging - there is no meaningful advantage from your big toe being in advance of the last but one defender.
    The line between onside and offside has to be somewhere - if you moved it 10cm to allow a margin for the attacker, we’d be upset about moments being ruined when they are 11cm offside.

    In fact I think such a margin exists these days? Or maybe only in the Premier League. I don’t know I don’t really keep up with it all anymore.
    You might, I wouldn't. To me though, it's not as black and white as that. We want to see goals and we want to see moments like what would've been a dramatic last minute winner for Iran.

    I would like to see some consideration for 1) Could the attacker have been reasonably expected to know if they were inside or not? In the instance of tonight's "goal" I'm sure the Iran player thought he was in line and there's no way anyone could have judged otherwise in the heat of the moment and 2) even if they are technically marginally offside, did it gain them a meaningful advantage? I realize that brings some human judgement back into it and we will never have zero controversies, but at least it would be human judgement using slowed down replays and definitive measurements of how far ahead of the line a player is. I'd just like to see a bit more consideration for what a player can reasonably be expected to judge on the field and the spirit of the law so we don't kill goals unnecessarily.
    If we went by this and being 'technically marginally offside' was let go and counted as onside, then where would we draw the line for offside?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 100,594
    Following completion of Group H, only 15 out of 495 possible combinations remain. For the winners of England’s group:

    8/15 1L v 3K (DR Congo)
    6/15 1L v 3I (Senegal)
    1/15 1L v 3J (Algeria?)
    I know we play 3rd from group I/J/K but how does it get decided who?
    Basically dpends which of the 8 Groups the third place teams comes from
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,693
    Cape Verde undefeated so far.
    Unlike America.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,691
    Shag said:
     Schweinsteiger means pig mounter 
    Pig herder, I thought. 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,691
    se9addick said:
    Watching the Japan v Sweden match at the FIFA Fan Festival in Dallas - $25 a beer (inc. tip)! 


    Surely the tip was “Don’t buy the beer, it’s ridiculously expensive”?
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,982
    edited June 27
    And it was the worst kind of offside. Those kind of goals just simply should stand. The offside rule was introduced to stop goal hanging - there is no meaningful advantage from your big toe being in advance of the last but one defender.
    The line between onside and offside has to be somewhere - if you moved it 10cm to allow a margin for the attacker, we’d be upset about moments being ruined when they are 11cm offside.

    In fact I think such a margin exists these days? Or maybe only in the Premier League. I don’t know I don’t really keep up with it all anymore.
    You might, I wouldn't. To me though, it's not as black and white as that. We want to see goals and we want to see moments like what would've been a dramatic last minute winner for Iran.

    I would like to see some consideration for 1) Could the attacker have been reasonably expected to know if they were inside or not? In the instance of tonight's "goal" I'm sure the Iran player thought he was in line and there's no way anyone could have judged otherwise in the heat of the moment and 2) even if they are technically marginally offside, did it gain them a meaningful advantage? I realize that brings some human judgement back into it and we will never have zero controversies, but at least it would be human judgement using slowed down replays and definitive measurements of how far ahead of the line a player is. I'd just like to see a bit more consideration for what a player can reasonably be expected to judge on the field and the spirit of the law so we don't kill goals unnecessarily.
    If we went by this and being 'technically marginally offside' was let go and counted as onside, then where would we draw the line for offside?
    I don't think offside pays proper respect to scrambles in the box. 

    I would have a rule along the lines of "if 10 players are in the box, offside is suspended"
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,814
    Iran were unfortunate, as it was one of those rare offsides where the keeper isn't between the ball and the goal, but it was definitely offside. 

    They could still go through, as they're 6th in the 3rd place table.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,612
    Hope Iran qualify, not least because of this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jun/16/amir-ghalenoei-iran-coach-mehdi-taremi-fifa-us-world-cup?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    and I am surprised they are taken in by Infantino visiting their dressing room and apparently “doing all he can”. He doesn’t give a toss about them and wants them out ASAP. 
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,198
    Replacing Livramento with a centre back looks even more weird now.

    Reece James isn't someone you can rely on to play every game 
    I still find it incredibly bizarre that we haven't taken Trent A-A. I honestly don't think there's another country at this World cup who wouldn't have picked him in their squad.
    Same as O'Reilly. Can't defend.

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  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,957
    edited June 27
    I think Bielsa would benefit from some mindfulness coaching, or at least count to 10, not 3

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cn0vkjj71rlo
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,116
    First post on world cup 26 as I didn't want to get wound up with any poor pass from an England player being slaughtered by the keyboard warriors 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,116
    Scotland have 0.07% chance now of getting through to the KO round, the same percentage chance as James Bond turning down a young beautiful woman.
  • Scotland need a miracle to progress, but I just took this photo.  Could it be their best chance?





  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 8,475
    Scotland need a miracle to progress, but I just took this photo.  Could it be their best chance?





    70% against Brazil, to then play the way they did, is mental. 

    If they’d doubled up on Vini, played a low block and not pissed about at the back I think they’d have comfortably got out of there with a 1/2-0 and could’ve even grabbed a draw. 

    I still thought they’d be OK in fairness, but it’s hilarious how the team who continually root for Englands opponents have once again been let down rooting for other teams.
  • Laddick01 said:
    Scotland need a miracle to progress, but I just took this photo.  Could it be their best chance?





    70% against Brazil, to then play the way they did, is mental. 

    If they’d doubled up on Vini, played a low block and not pissed about at the back I think they’d have comfortably got out of there with a 1/2-0 and could’ve even grabbed a draw. 

    I still thought they’d be OK in fairness, but it’s hilarious how the team who continually root for Englands opponents have once again been let down rooting for other teams.
    The defending against Brazil was comical at times...
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,116
    I enjoyed seeing Bjorn Borg, the head coach of Ecuador celebrating and showing his emotions.
    He was an iceman as a tennis player.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,115
    edited June 27
    Would like to avoid Senegal out of the DR Congo/Senegal/Algeria possibilities.

    Decent side.

    And Portugal are a possibility if we finish second, so need to beat Panama!!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,921
    edited June 27
    Following completion of Group H, only 15 out of 495 possible combinations remain. For the winners of England’s group:

    8/15 1L v 3K (DR Congo)
    6/15 1L v 3I (Senegal)
    1/15 1L v 3J (Algeria?)
    I know we play 3rd from group I/J/K but how does it get decided who?
    As mentioned, it’s based on the combinations of which groups the eight teams come from and that was pre-determined before the tournament started I assume to minimise variance in rest days between the teams (ie winner of group L shouldn’t be paired with 3rd group A).

    Since there’s only 8 viable combinations left following the conclusion of Group G, it’s possible write each of them out…

    1L v 3K if:
    B, D, E, F, I, J, K, L
    B, D, E, F, G, I, K, L
    B, D, E, F, G, I, J, K
    A, B, D, E, F, G, I, K

    1L v 3I if:
    B, D, E, F, G, I, J, L
    A, B, D, E, F, G, I, L
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, I

    1L v 3J:
    A, B, D, E, F, G, I, J

    You can simplify these written combos further since five teams (B - Bosnia, D - Paraguay, E - Ecuador, F - Sweden, I - Senegal) are confirmed in and one team (H - Uruguay) is confirmed out…

    The remaining three teams must come from six groups: A, C, G, J, K or L

    1L v 3K if:
    South Korea, Iran, 3K or
    Iran, 3J, 3K or
    Iran, 3K, 3L or
    3J, 3K, 3L

    1L v Senegal (3I) if:
    South Korea, Scotland, Iran or
    South Korea, Iran, 3L or
    Iran, 3J, 3L

    1L v 3J if:
    South Korea, Iran, 3J