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  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,683
    Portsmouth are dropping 6 million on a player. This is what we are competing with. 
    Well, more like £5m if the reports are to be believed and no word on what amount of that would be add-ons and conditionals. 
    6 million plus add ons. 

    Even if it was 5 the principle is the same. Portsmouth should be our competition next season and if they dropping this much its cause for concern 
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 4,118
    Portsmouth are dropping 6 million on a player. This is what we are competing with. 
    Well, more like £5m if the reports are to be believed and no word on what amount of that would be add-ons and conditionals. 
    6 million plus add ons. 

    Even if it was 5 the principle is the same. Portsmouth should be our competition next season and if they dropping this much its cause for concern 
    Looking at his stats, he’s hardly prolific! £6m seems a lot- makes you wonder what Kelman is worth, having scored more goals at a higher standard!! 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,186
    I'm surprised to see Pompey spending that kind of money when their owners complain about everyone else's spending all the time. 
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,683
    sammy391 said:
    Portsmouth are dropping 6 million on a player. This is what we are competing with. 
    Well, more like £5m if the reports are to be believed and no word on what amount of that would be add-ons and conditionals. 
    6 million plus add ons. 

    Even if it was 5 the principle is the same. Portsmouth should be our competition next season and if they dropping this much its cause for concern 
    Looking at his stats, he’s hardly prolific! £6m seems a lot- makes you wonder what Kelman is worth, having scored more goals at a higher standard!! 
    The concern is if he’s not prolific that’s more of a concern in that if that’s what you get for 6 million what are we going to be able to get? 
  • CAFC_boi
    CAFC_boi Posts: 414
    Portsmouth have actually tabled a number of £2m + bids for players this summer so far, looks like the owners actually have given them some money to spend all of a sudden. 

    We need to be spending £2m+ on a few players, with those theee being in midfield / RB / Striker realistically to compete this season. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,186
    I wouldn't be that surprised if we spent £3-6m on a CM to be honest. 
  • BetterCallSaul
    BetterCallSaul Posts: 401
    €6m = about £5m.

    Not saying it's not a large amount of money but it's definitely not £6m
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,609
    There's no point in getting worried about other teams' spending on one player. This will be their first fee signing of the summer, could also be their only one in which case it would be hardly anything. Or they could spend £5m on 50 other players and then, yes, that would be surprising. We could have signed a £5m player last season, instead we chose to split it across a number of players to fill the squad out. Jones has already said we're looking at individual quality rather than quantity so there's every chance some bigger signings will come later. And then they might not work out and people will complain that the fee was too high anyway
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,233
    Given last seasons recruiting disaster I’m going to wait until we’ve played a few games to judge any of these players. 
    But last summer was the best transfer window since 2011…

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  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,652
    edited July 4
    Money doesn't mean success. Look at hull... Also that bloke Portsmouth signed got one goal in Spain then went to Portugal and got 9 in 31. Hardly prolific. Not suddenly a good player because they cost a few quid. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,609
    €6m = about £5m.

    Not saying it's not a large amount of money but it's definitely not £6m
    They should really come up with some kind of symbol that allows you to differentiate between different types of currency. Like a big sort of E for Euros or something, that would help a lot.
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,683
    ButtleJR said:
    Money doesn't mean success. Look at hull... Also that bloke Portsmouth signed got one goal in Spain then went to Portugal and got 9 in 31. Hardly prolific. Not suddenly a good player because they cost a few quid. 
    The point is this is how much players cost, especially at our level. If a team we should be seeing as immediate competition is spending that then it’s concerning 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,722
    Redhenry said:
    I think we can get decent money for Karoy, A Mitchell and Kanu.
    hopefully we can offload Tanto and Apter for decent fees.
    This should raise some funds towards signing 3 good Champ players
    I think Apter and Tanto are ultimately destined to end up like Ahadme.  We’ll see them both on season long loans this season I would imagine - may see them on loan for as long as they’re contracted 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,609
    ButtleJR said:
    Money doesn't mean success. Look at hull... Also that bloke Portsmouth signed got one goal in Spain then went to Portugal and got 9 in 31. Hardly prolific. Not suddenly a good player because they cost a few quid. 
    The point is this is how much players cost, especially at our level. If a team we should be seeing as immediate competition is spending that then it’s concerning 
    It really isn't. £5m is hardly anything at this level. Portsmouth are in their third season in the Championship, have only lost two non-loan players from their squad and one of those was a backup keeper and don't have to perform a massive overhaul of their team. We can up from L1 last season and spent around £12m, the idea that £5m is a big transfer is ridiculous. We will absolutely be able to spend that amount on a player if we choose to this summer.
  • AndyG said:
    Is the Redmond trial, just Nathan helping out an ex player by saying it’s an official trial so his agent can create some interest, when in reality he’s just training with us. Clutching at straws here. I know money is tight compared to other big spenders in this league but it’s a signing that wouldn’t be very inspiring. Perhaps NJ would deploy him elsewhere like the genius Coady switch to midfield.
    On paper the bloke seems like a busted flush however he is only 32 has played at the highest level if he gets a full pre season in who knows he could rekindle his spark. I learnt from the Coady signing not to doubt NJ in this respect as I was gutted when we signed him thinking it a total waste of space
    You’re right, as fans we’ve all watched a lot of football but we know nothing compared to a pro manager with a successful track record and recruitment experts like Chapple. We had the 3rd lowest player budget in the league last year and it’s not going to be much higher this year. This is the pond we’re fishing in and NJ and Chapple know how to get value for money.
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 2,180
    AndyG said:
    Is the Redmond trial, just Nathan helping out an ex player by saying it’s an official trial so his agent can create some interest, when in reality he’s just training with us. Clutching at straws here. I know money is tight compared to other big spenders in this league but it’s a signing that wouldn’t be very inspiring. Perhaps NJ would deploy him elsewhere like the genius Coady switch to midfield.
    On paper the bloke seems like a busted flush however he is only 32 has played at the highest level if he gets a full pre season in who knows he could rekindle his spark. I learnt from the Coady signing not to doubt NJ in this respect as I was gutted when we signed him thinking it a total waste of space
    You’re right, as fans we’ve all watched a lot of football but we know nothing compared to a pro manager with a successful track record and recruitment experts like Chapple. We had the 3rd lowest player budget in the league last year and it’s not going to be much higher this year. This is the pond we’re fishing in and NJ and Chapple know how to get value for money.
    Redmond has played 22 championship games in the past 3 seasons. If this is the level that we are at while "relegation rivals" can throw millions at players...
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,811
    DDOUBLEE said:
    AndyG said:
    Is the Redmond trial, just Nathan helping out an ex player by saying it’s an official trial so his agent can create some interest, when in reality he’s just training with us. Clutching at straws here. I know money is tight compared to other big spenders in this league but it’s a signing that wouldn’t be very inspiring. Perhaps NJ would deploy him elsewhere like the genius Coady switch to midfield.
    On paper the bloke seems like a busted flush however he is only 32 has played at the highest level if he gets a full pre season in who knows he could rekindle his spark. I learnt from the Coady signing not to doubt NJ in this respect as I was gutted when we signed him thinking it a total waste of space
    You’re right, as fans we’ve all watched a lot of football but we know nothing compared to a pro manager with a successful track record and recruitment experts like Chapple. We had the 3rd lowest player budget in the league last year and it’s not going to be much higher this year. This is the pond we’re fishing in and NJ and Chapple know how to get value for money.
    Redmond has played 22 championship games in the past 3 seasons. If this is the level that we are at while "relegation rivals" can throw millions at players...
    It’s July the 4th ffs. If at the end of the window we haven’t bought anyone for 7 figures and have signed Nathan Redmond to play a significant role then fair enough, but that obviously won’t be the case 

    If we do sign Redmond, then he’s a free agent probably coming in as a bit of a bonus option to the squad and won’t cost us much at all, and a good player in the dressing room. One of those signings that would probably benefit us more off the pitch than on, but might have a small role to play on the pitch from the bench. Would think it would be ideal for TC to have a player like Redmond to learn from 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,998
    Does £6m guarantee you success with a player?, happy to let the club decide whom the sign, the signings so far indicate we are looking further afield so suspect as I thought , we will not know many of our signings even if we hear a rumour, I quite like it that way. 
  • ButtleJR said:
    Money doesn't mean success. Look at hull... Also that bloke Portsmouth signed got one goal in Spain then went to Portugal and got 9 in 31. Hardly prolific. Not suddenly a good player because they cost a few quid. 
    The point is this is how much players cost, especially at our level. If a team we should be seeing as immediate competition is spending that then it’s concerning 
    It really isn't. £5m is hardly anything at this level. Portsmouth are in their third season in the Championship, have only lost two non-loan players from their squad and one of those was a backup keeper and don't have to perform a massive overhaul of their team. We can up from L1 last season and spent around £12m, the idea that £5m is a big transfer is ridiculous. We will absolutely be able to spend that amount on a player if we choose to this summer.
    We spent £3.5m on Kelman in our first season coming up, so you’re right, our budget will build every season we stay in this league and we will be probably matching Portsmouth’s spending next year. Also, the fee is spread over the duration of the contract, so it could be only £1.2m a year, plus, if the player is young there’s a good chance they will sell him for more, or at least get their money back. I think fees can be misleading, wages are the real judge of a club’s financial muscle, as it’s dead money, but we never get to see these figures. People were saying Galbraith didn’t sign for us because he didn’t like us, no, it’s because another team were offering more wedge and a better chance for him to look good.

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,228
    CAFC_boi said:
    Portsmouth have actually tabled a number of £2m + bids for players this summer so far, looks like the owners actually have given them some money to spend all of a sudden. 

    We need to be spending £2m+ on a few players, with those theee being in midfield / RB / Striker realistically to compete this season. 

    MarcusH26 said:
    Interesting comment from NJ that we plan to continue to target Europe for signings because we can't afford £10m on a Gailbraith. Would expect at least one of the CMs to come from Europe. Agree with the post from last night about instead of signing De Keersmaeker we have to go to Belgium/Holland and find the next one. 
    That’s what happens when you manage to stay in the championship couple of years ..each year you’re financially stronger ……that’s our aim small steps each year. 

  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,228
    DDOUBLEE said:
    AndyG said:
    Is the Redmond trial, just Nathan helping out an ex player by saying it’s an official trial so his agent can create some interest, when in reality he’s just training with us. Clutching at straws here. I know money is tight compared to other big spenders in this league but it’s a signing that wouldn’t be very inspiring. Perhaps NJ would deploy him elsewhere like the genius Coady switch to midfield.
    On paper the bloke seems like a busted flush however he is only 32 has played at the highest level if he gets a full pre season in who knows he could rekindle his spark. I learnt from the Coady signing not to doubt NJ in this respect as I was gutted when we signed him thinking it a total waste of space
    You’re right, as fans we’ve all watched a lot of football but we know nothing compared to a pro manager with a successful track record and recruitment experts like Chapple. We had the 3rd lowest player budget in the league last year and it’s not going to be much higher this year. This is the pond we’re fishing in and NJ and Chapple know how to get value for money.
    Redmond has played 22 championship games in the past 3 seasons. If this is the level that we are at while "relegation rivals" can throw millions at players...
    We just spent 1.6 mill on two defenders …
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 11,222
    I do despair a bit sometimes. 

    Jones whose vision is driving this project, is literally on record stating that our development as a football club will be done with incremental increases to the budget - which the board have backed him by doing.

    Due to this, and the current level of the squad, he is completely correct in saying we don’t have the money to go out and spend £10 million on one player. We need to bring in to many players still.

    This year however the budget has increased, and we do not have to bring in as many players. This means we should see an increase in what we do spend on *some* players compared to last year, and the year before that. At the moment we are barely 5 seconds into pre season - so getting worried/worked up because of what other teams are doing is such a waste of your energy. 

    You may not agree that this is the way we should be approaching things, but it is - and so far it has worked. 


  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,724
    MeerKat said:
    I think in a 4 at the back Sichenje could be suitable for RB looking at how he plays 
    4 at the back, with Kayne and Collins at RB we wouldn't need a RWB. Depending on budget and recruitment, might be an option.
    Why are people all shoehorning Sichenje into positions he's never played? He's not a right back, he's not a wingback, he's not a midfielder.

    Would you say the same thing about Lloyd Jones?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,724
    NabySarr said:
    sam3110 said:
    Jones has used 4231 loads in his managerial career

    If he thinks he can get something out of Redmond, then let's try 

    Godden was 32 when we signed him from Coventry, just saying
    Has he? I don’t think he has. Used it at Southampton and maybe at Stoke but whenever he’s had success it’s been with a 442 diamond or a 352 

    I can’t see him switching us to 4231 as a starting system. He just wants the options to be able to change to it in game if needed. Our starting system will be the 3-5-2/4-2-3-1 hybrid which it sounds like we played last night, so with a more defensive LWB and a more attacking RWB, with TC drifting out to the left 
    He used it a lot at Luton, especially lower down the pyramid. 

    Last night we played a back 4 in both halves, Kelman was name dropped on Cawley's pod that he told them that a back 4 was what they've practiced all week and it's what we used. 

    Anyone trying to claim it wasn't and it was still a 352 is wrong, at least for last night. Moving forward we might see the hybrid shape, or we might switch to the back 4 permanently, who knows
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,811
    edited July 4
    sam3110 said:
    NabySarr said:
    sam3110 said:
    Jones has used 4231 loads in his managerial career

    If he thinks he can get something out of Redmond, then let's try 

    Godden was 32 when we signed him from Coventry, just saying
    Has he? I don’t think he has. Used it at Southampton and maybe at Stoke but whenever he’s had success it’s been with a 442 diamond or a 352 

    I can’t see him switching us to 4231 as a starting system. He just wants the options to be able to change to it in game if needed. Our starting system will be the 3-5-2/4-2-3-1 hybrid which it sounds like we played last night, so with a more defensive LWB and a more attacking RWB, with TC drifting out to the left 
    He used it a lot at Luton, especially lower down the pyramid. 

    Last night we played a back 4 in both halves, Kelman was name dropped on Cawley's pod that he told them that a back 4 was what they've practiced all week and it's what we used. 

    Anyone trying to claim it wasn't and it was still a 352 is wrong, at least for last night. Moving forward we might see the hybrid shape, or we might switch to the back 4 permanently, who knows
    I didn’t watch the game last night so can’t comment, just going on what I’ve read. Also from the highlights we started with Leaburn and Olaofe up front so I’m not sure how a 4-2-3-1 was made up there? 

    He really didn’t use it at Luton lower down the pyramid or at all. In league 2 and league 1 they played a 4-4-2 diamond. When he came back in the championship they at first played that, and then moved to a 3-5-2. He has never been a 4-2-3-1 manager other than at Southampton  
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,686
    Got a feeling Nathan hasn't given up on Apter as much as some have on this thread...
    I agree. I think he wants to see a change in attitude/approach from Apter, and hopefully that’s what he’ll get in the preseason. 

    I know it’s only the first game, but Apter got a start - the other player who we think might be on the way out (both Mitchells, Anderson, didn’t get a look, and Kanu only got a bench spot). It might not work, but I think Nathan is giving him a chance. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,725
    NabySarr said:
    sam3110 said:
    NabySarr said:
    sam3110 said:
    Jones has used 4231 loads in his managerial career

    If he thinks he can get something out of Redmond, then let's try 

    Godden was 32 when we signed him from Coventry, just saying
    Has he? I don’t think he has. Used it at Southampton and maybe at Stoke but whenever he’s had success it’s been with a 442 diamond or a 352 

    I can’t see him switching us to 4231 as a starting system. He just wants the options to be able to change to it in game if needed. Our starting system will be the 3-5-2/4-2-3-1 hybrid which it sounds like we played last night, so with a more defensive LWB and a more attacking RWB, with TC drifting out to the left 
    He used it a lot at Luton, especially lower down the pyramid. 

    Last night we played a back 4 in both halves, Kelman was name dropped on Cawley's pod that he told them that a back 4 was what they've practiced all week and it's what we used. 

    Anyone trying to claim it wasn't and it was still a 352 is wrong, at least for last night. Moving forward we might see the hybrid shape, or we might switch to the back 4 permanently, who knows
    I didn’t watch the game last night so can’t comment, just going on what I’ve read. Also from the highlights we started with Leaburn and Olaofe up front so I’m not sure how a 4-2-3-1 was made up there? 

    He really didn’t use it at Luton lower down the pyramid or at all. In league 2 and league 1 they played a 4-4-2 diamond. When he came back in the championship they at first played that, and then moved to a 3-5-2. He has never been a 4-2-3-1 manager other than at Southampton  
    Tanto started out wide 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,370
    edited July 4
    I understand Jones’ comments re not having the budget to buy Championship players. It is quite a concern, though, when the signing of experienced champ players on loan last season (Coady, Bree/Clarke, Dykes) was fundamental in getting us across the line. 

    The signing strategy becomes an even bigger gamble when the new players are untested in English football. We’ve moved on from signing the cream of the crop from L1 to sourcing “hidden gems” from eg a team relegated from the Eredivisie and from Eastern European leagues.
    I hope we are eyeing up a few loanees that have Champ experience. Maybe that’s why we are having to be patient on timing.