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  • fattmatt
    fattmatt Posts: 676
    edited July 5
    MrOneLung said:
    I don’t even know the second line of Land of hope and glory !

    always funny when at an international event when GSTK goes into a second verse and nobody knows the words 
    I do! It's "dum dum dum-de-de-dum"
  • Stuart_the_Red
    Stuart_the_Red Posts: 2,051
    edited July 5
    Keep GSTK, but speed it up like Valley Floyd Road as sung by the Valley faithful!
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,602
    No-one can figure out when to start off the opening drumroll. It just needs a click track, that'll fix it right up
  • WrightCharlie
    WrightCharlie Posts: 849
    I think our National Anthem also qualifies for the 'worst ever song lyric' thread.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,439
    Croydon said:
    I like it our anthem but agree that Jerusalem would sound better pre match. Even Land of Hope and Glory would get people going more I think 
    Land of Hope and Glory was actually tried in 70s when Don Revie became manager. It was a total failure which certainly didn't get people going. To me Jerusalem would be only option but I have no desire to change. Bohemian Rhapsody, Wonderwall as a national anthem - give me a break please. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,332
    Blimey I said Wonderwall as a joke. Perhaps I should have said Sweet Caroline to make it more obvious?
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,496
    I think any anthem will be problematic for some group or other.

    GSTK. Upsets republicans and atheists

    Jerusalem. Upsets atheists. Likely to trigger those that would only hear a song named after the capital of Israel.

    Land of Hope and Glory. Upsets those that only see a downside in patriotism and British history.

    Wonderwall - see above 😉

    GSTK has some upside. It annoys all of the above and the Scots, and everyone knows the first verse. Let’s stick with it.
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,772
    fattmatt said:
    Stig said:
    There are three, maybe four, decent national anthems. The rest are appalling. Time to stop this nonsense.
    There are ONLY 4 national anthems. Apart from England, USA and France all the others are literally the same song!
    Especially Liechtenstein who use the same dirge we do
  • WrightCharlie
    WrightCharlie Posts: 849
    rananegra said:
    fattmatt said:
    Stig said:
    There are three, maybe four, decent national anthems. The rest are appalling. Time to stop this nonsense.
    There are ONLY 4 national anthems. Apart from England, USA and France all the others are literally the same song!
    Especially Liechtenstein who use the same dirge we do
    Oh blimey, let's hope they don't get to the final as well......
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,448
    Before starting a thread I suggest searching it to see if it’s been done before.

    This discussion has been done to death. It’s always much better to do a search, and then if you have something new to say, bump up the old thread.


    Thank you, I think I started that thread and got a right kicking but it still remains GSTQ GSTK are both shite!

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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,534
    I think any anthem will be problematic for some group or other.

    GSTK. Upsets republicans and atheists

    Jerusalem. Upsets atheists. Likely to trigger those that would only hear a song named after the capital of Israel.

    Land of Hope and Glory. Upsets those that only see a downside in patriotism and British history.

    Wonderwall - see above 😉

    GSTK has some upside. It annoys all of the above and the Scots, and everyone knows the first verse. Let’s stick with it.
    Great post 👍👍
  • Stuart_the_Red
    Stuart_the_Red Posts: 2,051
    edited July 5
    I would rather sing this as it refers to country and not to King or Queen:

    I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above,
    Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love;
    The love that asks no questions, the love that stands the test,
    That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best; 
    The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,
    The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.

    And there's another country, I've heard of long ago,
    Most dear to them that love her, most great to them that know;
    We may not count her armies, we may not see her King;
    Her fortress is a faithful heart, her pride is suffering;
    And soul by soul and silently her shining bounds increase,
    And her ways are ways of gentleness, and all her paths are peace.

  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,734
    GStQ/K is an absolute dirge largely compounded by our National football following being too coked/pissed up, to slow down to, and follow with any competence.

    1. "La Marseillaise"
    2. "Il Canto degli Italiani"
    3. "Lip Up Fatty"
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 6,030
    I'm amused by Argentina's national anthem as it has several distinct musical movements before it stops ... Then it starts again with a song that is essentially a different tune completely.

    All the while the opposition are wondering if they're playing three or four at the back and by the time the game starts they're one down,  but still wondering how the melodic shift from martial fanfare to crescendo and back to rhythmic march works.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 10,073
    I would keep our National Anthem  but speed it up. It sounds awful when sung slowly, as the woman did in today's Grand Prix.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,397
    Nothing wrong with the National Anthem. I don't believe in God, but so what?

    It astounds me why people seem to spend so much time thinking of things to run this country down about.

    God Save The King.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,006
    I would rather sing this as it refers to country and not to King or Queen:

    I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above,
    Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love;
    The love that asks no questions, the love that stands the test,
    That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best; 
    The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,
    The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.

    And there's another country, I've heard of long ago,
    Most dear to them that love her, most great to them that know;
    We may not count her armies, we may not see her King;
    Her fortress is a faithful heart, her pride is suffering;
    And soul by soul and silently her shining bounds increase,
    And her ways are ways of gentleness, and all her paths are peace.

    Yeah I think it would be a decent choice, but spoiled by the fact a lot of people would just go "erm... why are England playing the Rugby World Cup song?" now.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,140
    Maybe just have all national anthems as instrumentals.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,880
    Off_it said:
    Nothing wrong with the National Anthem. I don't believe in God, but so what?

    It astounds me why people seem to spend so much time thinking of things to run this country down about.

    God Save The King.
    Because the song is nothing whatsoever to do with 'this country', it's about one person and that's it. As a proud Englishman, I want an anthem that actually mentions some of the great things about our country, not one that conflates our country with one person. 

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  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,532
    A cheerful National Anthem would be 'Walking on Sunshine'.
    Catchy, easy to sing, and a good reflection of the national weather.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,747
    Without meaning to provoke anything political, God Save the King (Queen) is the anthem of the UK, not England, so we really should have our own one. How about Wonderwall? 
    Why ??? How about Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now ?
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,747
    fattmatt said:
    Stig said:
    There are three, maybe four, decent national anthems. The rest are appalling. Time to stop this nonsense.
    There are ONLY 4 national anthems. Apart from England, USA and France all the others are literally the same song!
    England doesn't have a National Anthem, if you're talking about God Save The King that is the Anthem for the UK & the tune is also used by Liechtenstein for their National Anthem.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,332
    Without meaning to provoke anything political, God Save the King (Queen) is the anthem of the UK, not England, so we really should have our own one. How about Wonderwall? 
    Why ??? How about Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now ?
    It was a JOKE 🤦🏽‍♀️
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,958
    Without meaning to provoke anything political, God Save the King (Queen) is the anthem of the UK, not England, so we really should have our own one. How about Wonderwall? 
    Why ??? How about Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now ?
    It was a JOKE 🤦🏽‍♀️
    Bloody Scot’s on here , taking over our national anthem thread tsk ! 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,332
    I live in Scotland but I support England! 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,027
    edited July 6
    I'm a traditionist.

    My tradition is to mute all national anthems and sing Land of hope and glory when England play.
    It worked last night and I will do the same for the Norway game. 

    Jerusalem would be great with it stirring lyrics but we need to change Je-ru-sa-lem to Glas-ton-bu-ry

    And did those feet in ancient time,
    Walk upon England's mountains green:
    And was the holy Lamb of Nature
    On England's pleasant pastures seen!

    And did the Countenance Divine,
    Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
    And was Glastonbury builded here,
    Among these dark Satanic Mills?

    Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
    Bring me my Arrows of desire:
    Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold:
    Bring me my Chariot of fire!

    I will not cease from Mental Fight,
    Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
    Till we have built Glastonbury 
    In England's green & pleasant Land.

    That would be fucking brilliant 👏🏻
  • Red7Oak
    Red7Oak Posts: 510
    Type your comment
    I give you a toast, ladies and gentlemen
    I give you a toast, ladies and gentlemen
    May this fair land we love so well
    In dignity and freedom dwell
    Though worlds may change and go awry
    While there is still one voice to cry
    There'll always be an England
    While there's a country lane
    Wherever there's a cottage small
    Beside a field of grain
    There'll always be an England
    While there's a busy street
    Wherever there's a turning wheel
    A million marching feet
    Red, white and blue
    What does it mean to you?
    Surely you're proud, shout it aloud
    Britons, awake
    The empire too, we can depend on you
    Freedom remains
    These are the chains
    Nothing can break
    There'll always be an England
    And England shall be free
    If England means as much to you
    As England means to me
    Red, white and blue
    What does it mean to you?
    Surely you're proud, shout it aloud
    Britons, awake
    The empire too, we can depend on you
    Freedom remains
    These are the chains
    Nothing can break
    There'll always be an England
    And England shall be free
    If England means as much to you
    As England means to me

  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,737
    Wonderwall. Simples!
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,597
    fattmatt said:
    Stig said:
    There are three, maybe four, decent national anthems. The rest are appalling. Time to stop this nonsense.
    There are ONLY 4 national anthems. Apart from England, USA and France all the others are literally the same song!
    Ours is the same as Lichtenstein’s.