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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,186
    The encouraging thing with Mbick on his loan was his ability to control the long ball, turn and take defender off the dribble. His finishing was a little hit or miss.   Can he do it at a higher level? Who knows but he certainly has the physical attributes.  I am conflicted as to whether a loan to league one or to keep him close to the first team even if he doesn’t play much is best coming off the injury
    Think it depends on what we end up with striker wise and where he's at with his recovery. If he gets some minutes against Cheltenham in the Carabao I'd be looking at a loan until Jan. Think DK goes permanently and we sign another striker anyway. 
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,271
    Dykes isn’t good enough for us but is training for a club that will be heavily favoured to comfortably finish above us next season. 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 27,110
    SteveACS said:
    Valley11 said:
    I think Dykes is being underestimated on here. He created as well as scored (WBA) vital goals. I would’ve liked to see us sign him, as well as a younger pacey striker. 

    A question...

    As Dykes played in the current Workd Cup, what better striker do you think we could afford?

    Mbape? Harland? Kane?

    Perhaps some supporters should temper their expectations...
    No thanks...
    One fails the height test...
    One is too old...
    One has a silly Man Bun...
    ...🙄
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,223
    follett said:
    Dykes isn’t good enough for us but is training for a club that will be heavily favoured to comfortably finish above us next season. 
    But Dykes wages would mean he’d likely be starter for us but a squad player for Bristol City
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 27,110
    follett said:
    Dykes isn’t good enough for us but is training for a club that will be heavily favoured to comfortably finish above us next season. 
    Dykes is good enough for us imo, he just favoured them over us for whatever reason, Jones confirmed he offered him a contract...
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,454
    I see Gough and Fullah as ready now for squad back up, rather than definite starters. Starters in 18 emonths or you move them on.

    Definite starters if as I suspect we go down this season.
    Like your optimism;)
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,379
    fenaddick said:
    follett said:
    Dykes isn’t good enough for us but is training for a club that will be heavily favoured to comfortably finish above us next season. 
    But Dykes wages would mean he’d likely be starter for us but a squad player for Bristol City
    I didn’t realise that a player’s wages were a consideration when it comes to team selection…
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,615
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,107
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    Depends if any of us want eventually to play more entertaining football.  
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,609
    wmcf123 said:
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    Depends if any of us want eventually to play more entertaining football.  
    You can absolutely play entertaining football with a target man, teams have been doing that for decades. Dykes wouldn't be the thing stopping that from happening. If you put aggressive wingers either side who want to cut in and a more creative midfield behind then a focal point is a great way to bring those players into the game, it's just not how Jones plays though. He wants to play percentages and win individual battles across the pitch. If you want to be entertained by your football you may need to go elsewhere

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  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 12,099
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    I prefer to put my finger in them
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,223
    CafcWest said:
    fenaddick said:
    follett said:
    Dykes isn’t good enough for us but is training for a club that will be heavily favoured to comfortably finish above us next season. 
    But Dykes wages would mean he’d likely be starter for us but a squad player for Bristol City
    I didn’t realise that a player’s wages were a consideration when it comes to team selection…
    It’s the other way round. You offer wages based on how impactful they’ll be on the pitch, including how often they’re likely to play 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,998
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Scoham said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    I still reckon Mbick is going to end up playing a bigger part than we think once fit... I know it was a couple of leagues below, but he was taking liberties from the highlights and is an absolute unit now
    Wasn’t overly impressive in league 1 when we played him, think people are getting overexcited about him.
    The 8 people that gave the lol of derision like they know how things will turn out with Mbick, I look forward  to the messages saying I was right, for Charlton’s and Mbicks side I genuinely hope I’m wrong. We will find out.
    I didn’t lol but a young player can’t be fairly judged when he didn’t even play a half a game in his 5 appearances in 24/25, and some of those were only a few minutes.

    Anyone can pick out a good young player who stands out, but not every young player will impress in a few cameos. They’re potentially nervous and in a team under pressure -  in 3 of those games there was only a 1 goal margin.

    At Colchester it’s not only about the goals, he was bullying centre backs, that’s not normal for a teenage striker even at that level. That led to an England u20 call up and a multi million bid from Brighton.

    He’s come along way since those cameos for us. Big strikers usually peak later when they’ve toughened up and become a lot more experienced. That’s why he’s believed to have potential to play Championship or PL football.
    Time will tell, I’m not going to sit here and pretend I saw all of his Colchester performances for all his minutes, so would be hypocritical for me to have an opinion based on what I haven’t seen, if I were to judge him based on sky tv highlights, then he obviously has potential. But so far IMO it feels like another one of our own being overestimated. Lots of players have looked good at a certain age and not kicked on and vice versa, so wouldn’t pin the outcome of his future based upon an under 20 call up, and giving league 2 defenders a bit of trouble. As I say hopefully he does great for us, I always get behind anyone that plays for us,whether I think they are good or not.
    I don't think anyone is calling for him to be thrown straight into our first team, he's one of a group on the fringes all who could potentially break through if they get an opportunity and take it.

    He's not another Lookman, Gomez or Shelvey, but that shouldn't be the standard we compare every academy player to. Those players don't hang around long, others can still be good enough for us without being at that level, they just need longer to develop.

    How many predicted Pope and Konsa would be capped for England? Many didn't rate them when they were with us.

    There's plenty of room for players to make it with us in between Burstow and Lookman. Burstow himself is starting to make progress, he got double figures for a club promoted from L1 aged 22. Mbick at 19 having played 1 season of first team football has time on his side. At the very least I expect he's closed the gap between himself and Leaburn, which probably puts him on the fringes of our first team or available for a good L1 loan.
    Hope you are correct, The reports of Brighton sniffing around has probably raised people’s expectations of him though, I’m not certain he will live up to them.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 27,110
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    I prefer to put my finger in them
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  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,510
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    I’d imagine we couldn’t afford Dykes’s wage demands, that’s why he’s gone elsewhere. All these people saying we can do better, but with what money if we can’t afford Dykes.
    Oh FFS are we skint again!!!, why didn’t someone say?
    We obviously ain't skint as 2 of our owners are billionaires. 
    How much they are willing to spend is another matter 
    Never enough for a lot of our fanbase🤷🏻‍♂️
    last season, according to N Jones we were the second lowest spenders in the Championship on our squad. Only Sheffield Wednesday below us.  So will the spending be a lot higher than that this season.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,107
    wmcf123 said:
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    Depends if any of us want eventually to play more entertaining football.  
    You can absolutely play entertaining football with a target man, teams have been doing that for decades. Dykes wouldn't be the thing stopping that from happening. If you put aggressive wingers either side who want to cut in and a more creative midfield behind then a focal point is a great way to bring those players into the game, it's just not how Jones plays though. He wants to play percentages and win individual battles across the pitch. If you want to be entertained by your football you may need to go elsewhere
    So you genuinely don’t aspire to be entertained ? The best game and a half of the second half of the season were Hull and Ipswich.  No Dykes .  
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,984
    wmcf123 said:
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    Depends if any of us want eventually to play more entertaining football.  
    You can absolutely play entertaining football with a target man, teams have been doing that for decades. Dykes wouldn't be the thing stopping that from happening. If you put aggressive wingers either side who want to cut in and a more creative midfield behind then a focal point is a great way to bring those players into the game, it's just not how Jones plays though. He wants to play percentages and win individual battles across the pitch. If you want to be entertained by your football you may need to go elsewhere
    Was interesting to hear on Rich’s podcast from last night that NJ wants to play more football and he’s also heard that from agents.

    I don’t expect a complete change, but a bit more possession, some signings to improve our attacking play and perhaps using wingers more often. Going to be interesting to see how that plays out.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 27,110
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    Depends if any of us want eventually to play more entertaining football.  
    You can absolutely play entertaining football with a target man, teams have been doing that for decades. Dykes wouldn't be the thing stopping that from happening. If you put aggressive wingers either side who want to cut in and a more creative midfield behind then a focal point is a great way to bring those players into the game, it's just not how Jones plays though. He wants to play percentages and win individual battles across the pitch. If you want to be entertained by your football you may need to go elsewhere
    So you genuinely don’t aspire to be entertained ? The best game and a half of the second half of the season were Hull and Ipswich.  No Dykes .  
    You can't blame a poor performance on whether or not Dykes played, one man doesn't make a team...
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,998
    msomerton said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    I’d imagine we couldn’t afford Dykes’s wage demands, that’s why he’s gone elsewhere. All these people saying we can do better, but with what money if we can’t afford Dykes.
    Oh FFS are we skint again!!!, why didn’t someone say?
    We obviously ain't skint as 2 of our owners are billionaires. 
    How much they are willing to spend is another matter 
    Never enough for a lot of our fanbase🤷🏻‍♂️
    last season, according to N Jones we were the second lowest spenders in the Championship on our squad. Only Sheffield Wednesday below us.  So will the spending be a lot higher than that this season.
    Probably won’t be massively different because of the rules, but I hang onto the fact teams have been successful by doing things sensibly, it just makes NJ’s job a bit tougher, but it’s down to him to get the players to over perform, it’s been done before, why not again.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,107
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    Depends if any of us want eventually to play more entertaining football.  
    You can absolutely play entertaining football with a target man, teams have been doing that for decades. Dykes wouldn't be the thing stopping that from happening. If you put aggressive wingers either side who want to cut in and a more creative midfield behind then a focal point is a great way to bring those players into the game, it's just not how Jones plays though. He wants to play percentages and win individual battles across the pitch. If you want to be entertained by your football you may need to go elsewhere
    So you genuinely don’t aspire to be entertained ? The best game and a half of the second half of the season were Hull and Ipswich.  No Dykes .  
    You can't blame a poor performance on whether or not Dykes played, one man doesn't make a team...
    We were better without him.  When he played , we resorted to hoofing it.  

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  • Bill
    Bill Posts: 1
    We need to wait and see just how much the owners are prepared to back Jones.  We definitely require a striker and at least one, preferably two, midfield players who can pick a forward pass.  Jury is out on Leaburn.  I think this season is make or break for him.  
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,609
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    Depends if any of us want eventually to play more entertaining football.  
    You can absolutely play entertaining football with a target man, teams have been doing that for decades. Dykes wouldn't be the thing stopping that from happening. If you put aggressive wingers either side who want to cut in and a more creative midfield behind then a focal point is a great way to bring those players into the game, it's just not how Jones plays though. He wants to play percentages and win individual battles across the pitch. If you want to be entertained by your football you may need to go elsewhere
    So you genuinely don’t aspire to be entertained ? The best game and a half of the second half of the season were Hull and Ipswich.  No Dykes .  
    That's a weird question. I aspire to see Charlton succeed. It would be nice to also see entertaining football but that has literally never happened in my lifetime and I'm not silly enough to think that that would change just because Lyndon Dykes isn't there. If you require entertainment then there's plenty of teams out there that are entertaining, personally I am entertained by Charlton winning however that is. Some of my favourite matches last season were games like Boro away where we defended for the entire time and nicked a goal (which Dykes helped create), the Leicester game (where Dykes scored), the Birmingham 1-0 (Dykes played) or the Stoke game with the late TC winner (Dykes assisted). I've never been concerned with the idea of the football being 'entertaining' because that's not really why you follow a specific team is it? I get that being boring and bad can be worse than being attacking and still bad for some people but I'm more interested in the team getting points. Dykes was a contributor to us getting more points and he fit in well with the style rather than influencing it. Jones dictates the style, if you want the football to change it's him you'll need to be getting upset about, not Dykes
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,424
    follett said:
    Dykes isn’t good enough for us but is training for a club that will be heavily favoured to comfortably finish above us next season. 
    Don't think it's as clear as that. We already have Leaburn and potentially Mbick if he's able to step up to the level so it's debatable whether offering Dykes more money is worth it where Bristol City may have more need for that type of striker so willing to offer more money.

    We are far more in need of a pacey wide forward like TC than we are in need of a target man like Dykes. Like I said in my previous post although Jones may have offered Dykes a contract it was probably going to be a low offer and a squad rotation basis which if accepted may have meant loaning out one of Leaburn or Mbick. The plan may still be to do that anyway but if we had neither Leaburn or Mbick already then I would agree offering Dykes a good contract with first team football on offer would have made sense then.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,722
    Hopefully things will pick up this week and we might see some movement now Slovenia’s done 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,585
    msomerton said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    I’d imagine we couldn’t afford Dykes’s wage demands, that’s why he’s gone elsewhere. All these people saying we can do better, but with what money if we can’t afford Dykes.
    Oh FFS are we skint again!!!, why didn’t someone say?
    We obviously ain't skint as 2 of our owners are billionaires. 
    How much they are willing to spend is another matter 
    Never enough for a lot of our fanbase🤷🏻‍♂️
    last season, according to N Jones we were the second lowest spenders in the Championship on our squad. Only Sheffield Wednesday below us.  So will the spending be a lot higher than that this season.
    Carter said we were looking to be in the 3rd rather than 4th quartile for spending ie from 13th to 18th in the spending league.

    How we were to achieve that wasn't spelt out but increased commercial income was mentioned.
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 234
    cabbles said:
    Hopefully things will pick up this week and we might see some movement now Slovenia’s done 
    Don’t hold your breath.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,856
    msomerton said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    I’d imagine we couldn’t afford Dykes’s wage demands, that’s why he’s gone elsewhere. All these people saying we can do better, but with what money if we can’t afford Dykes.
    Oh FFS are we skint again!!!, why didn’t someone say?
    We obviously ain't skint as 2 of our owners are billionaires. 
    How much they are willing to spend is another matter 
    Never enough for a lot of our fanbase🤷🏻‍♂️
    last season, according to N Jones we were the second lowest spenders in the Championship on our squad. Only Sheffield Wednesday below us.  So will the spending be a lot higher than that this season.
    Carter said we were looking to be in the 3rd rather than 4th quartile for spending ie from 13th to 18th in the spending league.

    How we were to achieve that wasn't spelt out but increased commercial income was mentioned.
    Yeah that’s right - I remember that interview.

    The issue is that you’re gonna need a hell of an increase in commercial revenue and outside of things like hospitality (haven’t seen any numbers on sales) we are still rooted to the bottom of the league in terms of shirt sponsor value by a stretch. Relative to the increase in transfer spend - commercial revenue is a tiny amount.

    We are a Championship football club and whilst it’s always lovely to see fans of the club paying for front of shirt it’s usually because nothing else is on the table. Championship shirt deals can now head up towards £800k-£1m and we are nowhere near that.

  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 5,169
    cabbles said:
    Hopefully things will pick up this week and we might see some movement now Slovenia’s done 
    Hopefully. This 'rumours' thread has gone off tangent somewhat!
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,476
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 

    I love a dyke 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,721
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    2121 said:
    Cant believe any of us would turn our noses up to dykes 
    Depends if any of us want eventually to play more entertaining football.  
    You can absolutely play entertaining football with a target man, teams have been doing that for decades. Dykes wouldn't be the thing stopping that from happening. If you put aggressive wingers either side who want to cut in and a more creative midfield behind then a focal point is a great way to bring those players into the game, it's just not how Jones plays though. He wants to play percentages and win individual battles across the pitch. If you want to be entertained by your football you may need to go elsewhere
    So you genuinely don’t aspire to be entertained ? The best game and a half of the second half of the season were Hull and Ipswich.  No Dykes .  
    That's like claiming Lloyd Jones is worse than Gough because Jones starts, no Gough = 5 Goals conceded in one half Vs Southampton and no Jones, Gough starts = Clean sheet away to Boro