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England v Argentina | World Cup Semi Final | 15 July 2026
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I think tomorrow is finally payback time for the previous instances of cheating. If our lads can keep their heads and not rise to the bait we win this comfortably 3-1, if the pinching, niggling wind up merchants succeed in getting to a few of our key players then history could repeat itself. Somehow I think these lads are too switched on to fall for it this time6
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World in Motion been on loop all day. Shitting myself over this one.I know the club v country thing has been done to death but getting to the World Cup Final would be up there for me.
Not saying it’s better.But honestly if we won the World Cup that’s me in tears. Only football match that’s ever done that to me before was 1998.1 -
Starmer will have a field day when he criticises the trouble that there no doubt will be on the day.
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Argentina fans have been at it already. The only real trouble so far has always involved them. They started on England fans in Miami as there’s a large population of Argentinians in the city. Also saw a video of 3 v 1 English bloke inside the stadium.ElfsborgAddick said:Starmer will have a field day when he criticises the trouble that there no doubt will be on the day.3 -
I shouldn't think they're very high up the refereeing pyramid.MuttleyCAFC said:I wouldhave liked Egyptian officials though!
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Didn’t we already do that in 2002 ?AndyG said:I think tomorrow is finally payback time for the previous instances of cheating. If our lads can keep their heads and not rise to the bait we win this comfortably 3-1, if the pinching, niggling wind up merchants succeed in getting to a few of our key players then history could repeat itself. Somehow I think these lads are too switched on to fall for it this timeBeckhams redemption?0 -
Pretty sure Becks threw up before taking the penalty in 20020
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That was his wife.MrOneLung said:Pretty sure Becks threw up before taking the penalty in 200211 -
That just made me LOL.The Red Robin said:
That was his wife.MrOneLung said:Pretty sure Becks threw up before taking the penalty in 20021 -
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Ah, Fadó. They've got one in Philadelphia as well. I was a local there for the three months I spent working in Philly in 2004. Amazing pub. Pretty much lived there. Watched us beat Pal-arse in 2004 (Dennis in the last minute).Tavern said:
We landed earlier.paulsturgess said:Just landed in Atlanta.
If I open the FIFA ticket app and see my ticket with the words “England V Argentina” written down I get proper goosebumps
Had a few beers in Fado on Peachtree street.
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😉letthegoodtimesroll said:
Every game England has played so far has been totally sapping and each time they’ve taken a breather and regrouped for the next even more totally sapping game. This squad has been building resilience. We will do the same again after the Argentina game.CharltonManor1966 said:think we are due a proper performance against the Argies.
The worry is that then becomes our 'final' and we get tonked embarrassingly by the Frogs or Spanish in the final.
We have just had two totally sapping games against Mexico (altitude) and Norway (heat and humudity).
We should have just enough left in the tank for the beating of Argentina, but then nothing left against the French (probably) in the biggest match and footballing spectacle in 60 years.
I do hope I am wrong as I usually am.I’m not totally convinced it will be France in the final with us.
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The Red Robin said:
That was over his wife.MrOneLung said:Pretty sure Becks threw up before taking the penalty in 2002
Fixed it for you.
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Henderson.CaptainRobbo said:
What England player would take a red card in the semi final, purposely missing the final?Chizz said:
Hopefully you're in a very small minority holding that viewValleyLocal said:
I associate 'dirty' with non football stuff... Pinching, spitting, grabbing, pulling, feigning injury, waving imaginary cards around, handballs etc.Chizz said:
This is brilliant!ValleyLocal said:
Still don't agree.fenaddick said:
Just an addition to my nonsense. I think you’re right that we don’t like dirty teams but I still think we like to have a few dirty individuals in our teamsValleyLocal said:
I don't think it is a good comment, because he was specifically talking about the HoG. He said we'd be happy if Gazza or someone did that. And I don't think that is true at all. In fact it's nonsense.Neil_Heaney said:
Very good point this. We battered Maradona all over the park at The Azteca (rightly so) – elbows, two-footers, the lot. His response was a slight of hand to steal a goal and take revenge for his treatment and the way us Brits have meddled in his country and most others in the world over history.fenaddick said:ValleyLocal said:
Completely and utterly disagree.fenaddick said:
I still maintain if that had been done by an English player like Gazza he'd be praised for being cheeky and it would be an iconic thing in this countryAllHailTheHen said:The Maradona hand ball being the single greatest act of cheating at a world cup and somehow being accepted by the Argies as the hand of God is something i'll never be able to get past. Add to that Batistuta's nodding at Beck's red card and the general shit housing that their team is allowed to get away with. I hope we crush them.
I can hear Jimmy Hill now, saying it's just not cricket & what a terrible way to win. And most would agree.
Genuinely think it's odd that someone can be born and raised in a country and so completely not understand it's character or mentality.
I think we're a nation who love a sly bit of cheating, just not in the way that the South Americans or Europeans do. We don't like diving but we love when a player goes too hard or too late into a tackle. It's why we loved Dobbo and Man Utd fans loved Roy Keane. We all want Miles Leaburn to start "using his body" aka fouling his opponent in a way the ref doesn't see. A cynical foul to stop a counter attack will get praised and most of the crowd telling the ref he's an idiot and nothing happened. Admittedly, we seem to like cheating when it makes you look hard but this idea that we're holier than thou is nonsense.DamoNorthStand said:
I agree with 99.9pc of what you post, but that is miles off.fenaddick said:
I still maintain if that had been done by an English player like Gazza he'd be praised for being cheeky and it would be an iconic thing in this countryAllHailTheHen said:The Maradona hand ball being the single greatest act of cheating at a world cup and somehow being accepted by the Argies as the hand of God is something i'll never be able to get past. Add to that Batistuta's nodding at Beck's red card and the general shit housing that their team is allowed to get away with. I hope we crush them.
1 - It wouldnt have happened in the first place - it just not how young players are raised here.
2 - Especially nowadays, they would end up getting frozen out for the rest of their career.
Of course it wouldn't happen in the modern day Damo, it would be ruled out by VAR and an incredibly dumb thing to do. I don't think the modern day Argentinian's would do it either.
I'm not saying I like cheating or like that Maradonna did it and got away with it. I just think that there are people of all nationalities and who play all sports that like to push the line in the hope of victory
Hacking players down and handball are both forms of foul play. I 'prefer' our foul play because it's how we're raised and what we're used to, but it goes both ways.
I cannot stand this Argentina side (apart from the manager who's an absolute gent) and hope we batter them, but as commented above it's a great country full of brilliant people.
And I don't think as a nation we love dirty or cynical fouls. It's why the 1970s Leeds team was widely disliked and isn't respected despite it's achievements. Even now, people call them Dirty Leeds. Wimbledon were also widely disliked, despite their fairytale rise from non-league. Wimbledon like is an insult, not praise.
As for meddling in the affairs of Argentina, you really do need to buy a history book and a map. It is Argentina, a country formed by the ancestors of people that stole the land from the native people, that meddled with the Falklands as part of their pathetic military posturing. We should feel sorry for the poor working class lads of Argentina who were forced to fight for an island that had and has nothing to do with Argentina. And never has.
I suggest that their current day players also read a history book and then campaign for justice for the veterans of that war, rather than sing songs about it. They've been completely brainwashed by their government.
I don't think Dennis Wise or Robbie Savage are particularly revered at any of their former clubs.
I think the Brits like hard but fair players much more.
Roy Keane was never dirty. He committed that savage foul. But wasn't a dirty player. So is probably the closest player to what you are alluding to. But he wasn't dirty in a snide way.
Funny enough, the sort of nonsense the Argentinians rely on to win games.
In that sense, Roy Keane wasn't dirty for me, whereas Vinnie Jones and Dennis Wise were.
However, perhaps the original poster is correct. Whilst I don't think us Brits would be very proud of a blatant handball, I do think I would enjoy someone two footing Messi to end his career and really break Argentinian hearts, with us 2-0 up and seeing out last few minutes with ten men.
Bring him on if winning by two goals on 93 mins.
National hero, as we wave Messi off on a stretcher, whilst Argentinians and the oddball Messi 'fans' have a meltdown.2 -
Nothing, unless you're Ronaldo.Kindoncasella said:Chizz said:
Hopefully you're in a very small minority holding that viewValleyLocal said:
I associate 'dirty' with non football stuff... Pinching, spitting, grabbing, pulling, feigning injury, waving imaginary cards around, handballs etc.Chizz said:
This is brilliant!ValleyLocal said:
Still don't agree.fenaddick said:
Just an addition to my nonsense. I think you’re right that we don’t like dirty teams but I still think we like to have a few dirty individuals in our teamsValleyLocal said:
I don't think it is a good comment, because he was specifically talking about the HoG. He said we'd be happy if Gazza or someone did that. And I don't think that is true at all. In fact it's nonsense.Neil_Heaney said:
Very good point this. We battered Maradona all over the park at The Azteca (rightly so) – elbows, two-footers, the lot. His response was a slight of hand to steal a goal and take revenge for his treatment and the way us Brits have meddled in his country and most others in the world over history.fenaddick said:ValleyLocal said:
Completely and utterly disagree.fenaddick said:
I still maintain if that had been done by an English player like Gazza he'd be praised for being cheeky and it would be an iconic thing in this countryAllHailTheHen said:The Maradona hand ball being the single greatest act of cheating at a world cup and somehow being accepted by the Argies as the hand of God is something i'll never be able to get past. Add to that Batistuta's nodding at Beck's red card and the general shit housing that their team is allowed to get away with. I hope we crush them.
I can hear Jimmy Hill now, saying it's just not cricket & what a terrible way to win. And most would agree.
Genuinely think it's odd that someone can be born and raised in a country and so completely not understand it's character or mentality.
I think we're a nation who love a sly bit of cheating, just not in the way that the South Americans or Europeans do. We don't like diving but we love when a player goes too hard or too late into a tackle. It's why we loved Dobbo and Man Utd fans loved Roy Keane. We all want Miles Leaburn to start "using his body" aka fouling his opponent in a way the ref doesn't see. A cynical foul to stop a counter attack will get praised and most of the crowd telling the ref he's an idiot and nothing happened. Admittedly, we seem to like cheating when it makes you look hard but this idea that we're holier than thou is nonsense.DamoNorthStand said:
I agree with 99.9pc of what you post, but that is miles off.fenaddick said:
I still maintain if that had been done by an English player like Gazza he'd be praised for being cheeky and it would be an iconic thing in this countryAllHailTheHen said:The Maradona hand ball being the single greatest act of cheating at a world cup and somehow being accepted by the Argies as the hand of God is something i'll never be able to get past. Add to that Batistuta's nodding at Beck's red card and the general shit housing that their team is allowed to get away with. I hope we crush them.
1 - It wouldnt have happened in the first place - it just not how young players are raised here.
2 - Especially nowadays, they would end up getting frozen out for the rest of their career.
Of course it wouldn't happen in the modern day Damo, it would be ruled out by VAR and an incredibly dumb thing to do. I don't think the modern day Argentinian's would do it either.
I'm not saying I like cheating or like that Maradonna did it and got away with it. I just think that there are people of all nationalities and who play all sports that like to push the line in the hope of victory
Hacking players down and handball are both forms of foul play. I 'prefer' our foul play because it's how we're raised and what we're used to, but it goes both ways.
I cannot stand this Argentina side (apart from the manager who's an absolute gent) and hope we batter them, but as commented above it's a great country full of brilliant people.
And I don't think as a nation we love dirty or cynical fouls. It's why the 1970s Leeds team was widely disliked and isn't respected despite it's achievements. Even now, people call them Dirty Leeds. Wimbledon were also widely disliked, despite their fairytale rise from non-league. Wimbledon like is an insult, not praise.
As for meddling in the affairs of Argentina, you really do need to buy a history book and a map. It is Argentina, a country formed by the ancestors of people that stole the land from the native people, that meddled with the Falklands as part of their pathetic military posturing. We should feel sorry for the poor working class lads of Argentina who were forced to fight for an island that had and has nothing to do with Argentina. And never has.
I suggest that their current day players also read a history book and then campaign for justice for the veterans of that war, rather than sing songs about it. They've been completely brainwashed by their government.
I don't think Dennis Wise or Robbie Savage are particularly revered at any of their former clubs.
I think the Brits like hard but fair players much more.
Roy Keane was never dirty. He committed that savage foul. But wasn't a dirty player. So is probably the closest player to what you are alluding to. But he wasn't dirty in a snide way.
Funny enough, the sort of nonsense the Argentinians rely on to win games.
In that sense, Roy Keane wasn't dirty for me, whereas Vinnie Jones and Dennis Wise were.
However, perhaps the original poster is correct. Whilst I don't think us Brits would be very proud of a blatant handball, I do think I would enjoy someone two footing Messi to end his career and really break Argentinian hearts, with us 2-0 up and seeing out last few minutes with ten men.
I should hope so too, thats a proper unhigned comment. Whats Messi done to upset people?
But it would be lovely to see the Argies crying their little eyes out over that.0 -
What the fuck was this flashing up on ITV just after the credits rolled just now?
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I went uni in Penn/Philly in 2004/05 and got mates there. Unreal place.Danepak said:
Ah, Fadó. They've got one in Philadelphia as well. I was a local there for the three months I spent working in Philly in 2004. Amazing pub. Pretty much lived there. Watched us beat Pal-arse in 2004 (Dennis in the last minute).Tavern said:
We landed earlier.paulsturgess said:Just landed in Atlanta.
If I open the FIFA ticket app and see my ticket with the words “England V Argentina” written down I get proper goosebumps
Had a few beers in Fado on Peachtree street.
Great bar1 -
DamoNorthStand said:
What the fuck was this flashing up on ITV just after the credits rolled just now?That's the other dimensional reality we should never see.2 -
I am sure Tuchel will ensure this but the history of the fixture is absolutely meaningless. We play a dangerous but not great team and if they want to put an outside edge on it, let them. Our goal is not revenge but getting to a World cup final and ultimately putting another star on the shirt. Tuchel told the players before the tournament that that was the mission and it is irrevelent who we are playing.0
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Thats the dream isn't it, all of us are emotionally charged to the gills and thr players be ice cold, focussed, not distracted and in no doubt about the objective and instructions for the game.MuttleyCAFC said:I am sure Tuchel will ensure this but the history of the fixture is absolutely meaningless. We play a dangerous but not great team and if they want to put an outside edge on it, let them. Our goal is not revenge but getting to a World cup final and ultimately putting another star on the shirt. Tuchel told the players before the tournament that that was the mission and it is irrevelent who we are playing.
I have only thought the Azteca game was fiery in terms of an actual atmosphere and we handled that in the perfect way with two first half goals even if we did get handicapped by the officials, we did exactly what we had to do and it was only the sending off that spiced things up for us and meant it became a siege0 -
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England all time World Cup goalscorers
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ITV celebs opening box with their team in it in their version of a sweepstakes.DamoNorthStand said:
What the fuck was this flashing up on ITV just after the credits rolled just now?Get various ones shown over last month or so0
