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England v Argentina | World Cup Semi Final | 15 July 2026
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Having slept on it, and in the cold light of day, the master tactician ripped off his outer clothing to reveal Coco the Clown.4
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There wasn't a "Seaman comment" there was a Seaman Challenge – to name a more consistent England goalkeeper than Pickford since David Seaman. Your answer is that even Seaman was inconsistent. So you're essentially saying that Pickford is the best England goalkeeper going back even further than that.LittleAddick said:
Pickford has had a poor tournament. Should have saved Croatia's first goal, Congo's goal, Norway's goal, and he's certainly not without blame for Fernandes' tonight, his positioning was all wrong and that's without the fact it came from a corner he shouldn't have given away. Too many instances for it to be bad luck for me.Sniffybadger said:Chunes said:
Pickford has been superb for England. I challenge anyone to name a more consistent goalkeeper for us since David Seaman.SoundAsa£ said:
Are you seriously blaming Pickford for those two goals…….you must be fucking mocking pal.😡Sniffybadger said:Also wtf happened to Pickford, those last two goals he was all over the place?! He’s lost his head completely. Harsh on Tuchel, I get the pelters on defence and I think his big mistake was putting Burn on. Yes he’s great in the last two but against technical teams he’s exposed, hugely, the old big English lad wasn’t the option in this game. We needed pace and counter threat but we had none so the Argies knew they could camp as we had no outputIs he consistent? He was, not sure he is now
As for the Seaman comment, again, at major moments he made crucial errors. Gave away a sloppy pen against Argentina in 98, and then got lobbed with Ronaldinho in 2002. We have a tendency to look back on GKs with rose tinted spectacles IMO.0 -
Had a poor tournament…….WTF are you on about…..are you drunk or just an attention seeking idiot.LittleAddick said:
Pickford has had a poor tournament. Should have saved Croatia's first goal, Congo's goal, Norway's goal, and he's certainly not without blame for Fernandes' tonight, his positioning was all wrong and that's without the fact it came from a corner he shouldn't have given away. Too many instances for it to be bad luck for me.Sniffybadger said:Chunes said:
Pickford has been superb for England. I challenge anyone to name a more consistent goalkeeper for us since David Seaman.SoundAsa£ said:
Are you seriously blaming Pickford for those two goals…….you must be fucking mocking pal.😡Sniffybadger said:Also wtf happened to Pickford, those last two goals he was all over the place?! He’s lost his head completely. Harsh on Tuchel, I get the pelters on defence and I think his big mistake was putting Burn on. Yes he’s great in the last two but against technical teams he’s exposed, hugely, the old big English lad wasn’t the option in this game. We needed pace and counter threat but we had none so the Argies knew they could camp as we had no outputIs he consistent? He was, not sure he is now
As for the Seaman comment, again, at major moments he made crucial errors. Gave away a sloppy pen against Argentina in 98, and then got lobbed with Ronaldinho in 2002. We have a tendency to look back on GKs with rose tinted spectacles IMO.
Neither of the goals in any way shape or form were down to him. 🤨🤨🤨1 -
Deep down I think we don’t have the talent/quality/experience as there has been some pretty ropey moments/performances during the tournament, and we’ve relied on Bellingham to pull us through and in a similar vein Kane (you could make the same argument about Argentina given Egypt and Switzerland), but it’s the context of last night that has me still seething. We got 30 minutes from a final and when we took the lead, the game was tight and our goal was class. The first few minutes of going ahead, keep it tight of course. But what followed was unforgivable and for me on the manager. Do I think on balance of the tournament we should be in the final, probably not. Argentina did deserve to go through last night, but it’s only after we completely imploded in how we set up
I concur with AFKA re watching a Charlton game. I messaged my mates before they equalised and said it’s reminding me of our league one playoff final against Orient. We led, Jones decided to shut up shop and we saw it out. The difference was we were playing Orient, not Argentina
I don’t see anyway back for Tuchel but it appears the FA is backing him. Kane has potentially got the 2028 Euros in him, but the next WC is beyond him. We’ve got absolutely no-one to replace him. A huge hole to fill
I think we’re probably now going to have to go through a period of a rebuild. What a shame for Bellingham given his age and talent. If we just had 2/3 more of his ilk then we’d be a force.6 -
Kindoncasella said:People banging on about the manager but who is Argentinas manager? Not exactly what you would call "elite" is he. Argentina players were better at dribbling and passing in tight areas last night, that was the difference for me.
Same for Spains manager too.
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I was thinking it about the first goal, it's exactly what Jones gets upset about after every game with the players; dropping too deep and not being able to get out to the edge of the box in time to stop a player smashing a shot in past the keeper. It's such basic stuff, I sort of expect it from lower level players sometimes but I couldn't believe a team of players that good could retreat into themselves so badly.AFKABartram said:Not read thread but did any else equate to watching England post taking a lead to watching Charlton post taking a lead?
painful to watch. Got away with it v Mexico but said to the wife at 76 mins it won’t work as they have far more quality than Mexico. Argentina were 12/1 at that point.
All 11 players in the box, three Argentina players queuing up to receive the ball including the player who just had a sighter moments before. Instead of trusting Spence to deal with Messi with Kane just behind to apply pressure to a shot if he does beat him, Anderson drops into the box and away from Fernandez leaving him completely open. No-one has shown even the slightest interest in breaking out from behind the penalty spot until Bellingham sprints out after the pass but he's far too late by then. Bellingham doesn't need to be there after the short corner has been played with Burn wafting behind him, he could have been on the edge of the box as well deterring that pass. The line is a total mess, every player there is just looking out for themselves, total collapse of the team shape and mentality. While I'm extremely critical of the changes Tuchel made it did put me in mind of terrible Charlton games where Jones talks afterwards and says what the players did wasn't anything like what they'd trained and they'd ignored him constantly telling them every week not not drop into the box when defending. The loss of concentration under pressure is amazing.17 -
Yes, very much like watching Charlton, but with two crucial differences. 1. Charlton typically play small town teams of northern cloggers, England are often up against the world's best. Indeed, arguably they faced the best player in the world last night. It's reasonable to think that you can defend like that against Scoggins, Arkwright and Blenkinsop for 30 minutes, not Messi and co. 2. Charlton's main focus is on a league competition, England's main focus is on a knock-out competition. Charlton just have to scrape enough points to avoid relegation and that's accepted as success. England had to win or or they'd be out. The percentage game is just not the same.AFKABartram said:Not read thread but did any else equate to watching England post taking a lead to watching Charlton post taking a lead?
painful to watch. Got away with it v Mexico but said to the wife at 76 mins it won’t work as they have far more quality than Mexico. Argentina were 12/1 at that point.
Such a style of play is boring, but generally acceptable for Charlton. It is wholly inappropriate for our national side.5 -
We’re not technically as good as many countries out there and the technical players we do have were left at home (and I don’t necessarily believe that was the “wrong” decision).
Has always been the way, we’ve never been able to adapt.3 -
Now this is gonna sound crazy but I honestly believe that we enjoy getting knocked out of tournaments.. now hear me out.
Supporting England is like having a wank, you get all excited, prepare yourself for a period of joy, expecting an all time climax only to finish and have that post nut syndrome. You promise yourself you’ll never do it again, you feel disgusted and you delete your VPN only to re-download it a couple of days later because you are sucked back in to the feeling of excitement and the belief that the all time climax will happen.
If we ever win a World Cup, nothing will ever compare and international tournaments will just feel numb because we achieved what we all wanted which was to see England lift the World Cup. We find peace in not winning it because it allows us to get excited for the next.We are the hopeless romantic, believing a dream that is bound to never come true, but it’s addicting and the pain we suffer every tournament is what gets us excited for the next.In simple terms we are destined to never succeed but it’s that feeling that always brings us back believing that next time will be the year and that’s what makes us England.8 -
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I wouldn't say we need a rebuild at all. There's still a lot of young players there for 4 years time. Trafford, O'Reilly, Spence, Quansah, Anderson, Bellingham, Rogers, Mainoo, Saka, Gordon will all be under 30 at the next world cup. Konsa, Guehi and Rice won't exactly be past it either.cabbles said:Deep down I think we don’t have the talent/quality/experience as there has been some pretty ropey moments/performances during the tournament, and we’ve relied on Bellingham to pull us through and in a similar vein Kane (you could make the same argument about Argentina given Egypt and Switzerland), but it’s the context of last night that has me still seething. We got 30 minutes from a final and when we took the lead, the game was tight and our goal was class. The first few minutes of going ahead, keep it tight of course. But what followed was unforgivable and for me on the manager. Do I think on balance of the tournament we should be in the final, probably not. Argentina did deserve to go through last night, but it’s only after we completely imploded in how we set up
I concur with AFKA re watching a Charlton game. I messaged my mates before they equalised and said it’s reminding me of our league one playoff final against Orient. We led, Jones decided to shut up shop and we saw it out. The difference was we were playing Orient, not Argentina
I don’t see anyway back for Tuchel but it appears the FA is backing him. Kane has potentially got the 2028 Euros in him, but the next WC is beyond him. We’ve got absolutely no-one to replace him. A huge hole to fill
I think we’re probably now going to have to go through a period of a rebuild. What a shame for Bellingham given his age and talent. If we just had 2/3 more of his ilk then we’d be a force.
There's also players that didn't make it like Hall, Lewis-Skelly, Livramento, Foden, Palmer, Wharton, Alex Scott, plus emerging talents like Ngumoha and Dowman.
So i think in most areas of the pitch we will be fine but of course the biggest problem we have is (like you say) we don't have any half decent striker at all coming through to replace Kane.7 -
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It’s unfortunately the English mentality and it seeps into everything.
We play not to win, instead, we play not to lose.2 -
Well if nothing else this was certainly an insight into your evenings..CodeRed said:Now this is gonna sound crazy but I honestly believe that we enjoy getting knocked out of tournaments.. now hear me out.
Supporting England is like having a wank, you get all excited, prepare yourself for a period of joy, expecting an all time climax only to finish and have that post nut syndrome. You promise yourself you’ll never do it again, you feel disgusted and you delete your VPN only to re-download it a couple of days later because you are sucked back in to the feeling of excitement and the belief that the all time climax will happen.
If we ever win a World Cup, nothing will ever compare and international tournaments will just feel numb because we achieved what we all wanted which was to see England lift the World Cup. We find peace in not winning it because it allows us to get excited for the next.We are the hopeless romantic, believing a dream that is bound to never come true, but it’s addicting and the pain we suffer every tournament is what gets us excited for the next.In simple terms we are destined to never succeed but it’s that feeling that always brings us back believing that next time will be the year and that’s what makes us England.7 -
Yeah, should’ve clarified. Rebuild as in how to set up now Kane is approaching his time. Lots of potential and for some of the players you’ve mentioned, they’ve had more tournament experience which is a good thing, but look at the below. I genuinely don’t know how we overcome thisChris_from_Sidcup said:
I wouldn't say we need a rebuild at all. There's still a lot of young players there for 4 years time. Trafford, O'Reilly, Spence, Quansah, Anderson, Bellingham, Rogers, Mainoo, Saka, Gordon will all be under 30 at the next world cup. Konsa, Guehi and Rice won't exactly be past it either.cabbles said:Deep down I think we don’t have the talent/quality/experience as there has been some pretty ropey moments/performances during the tournament, and we’ve relied on Bellingham to pull us through and in a similar vein Kane (you could make the same argument about Argentina given Egypt and Switzerland), but it’s the context of last night that has me still seething. We got 30 minutes from a final and when we took the lead, the game was tight and our goal was class. The first few minutes of going ahead, keep it tight of course. But what followed was unforgivable and for me on the manager. Do I think on balance of the tournament we should be in the final, probably not. Argentina did deserve to go through last night, but it’s only after we completely imploded in how we set up
I concur with AFKA re watching a Charlton game. I messaged my mates before they equalised and said it’s reminding me of our league one playoff final against Orient. We led, Jones decided to shut up shop and we saw it out. The difference was we were playing Orient, not Argentina
I don’t see anyway back for Tuchel but it appears the FA is backing him. Kane has potentially got the 2028 Euros in him, but the next WC is beyond him. We’ve got absolutely no-one to replace him. A huge hole to fill
I think we’re probably now going to have to go through a period of a rebuild. What a shame for Bellingham given his age and talent. If we just had 2/3 more of his ilk then we’d be a force.
There's also players that didn't make it like Hall, Lewis-Skelly, Livramento, Foden, Palmer, Wharton, Alex Scott, plus emerging talents like Ngumoha and Dowman.
So i think in most areas of the pitch we will be fine but of course the biggest problem we have is (like you say) we don't have any half decent striker at all coming through to replace Kane.
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Not read any comments other than those on this page (even then skim read them - no offence to the posters).
We are ranked fourth in the world, and we are going to come fourth. Par achieved.
I thought it was ridiculous to go defensive on 55 minutes, up until then I thought we matched them.
The best team won.
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Think England can feel a bit hard done by with the lack of a red card for Enzo, potential foul in the build up for the winner and the fact Lautaro Martinez should have been suspended for this game. It’s easy to critique Tuchel for being overly defensive but we lauded him for doing the same against Mexico. My main qualm with him was the whole RB situation, we just didn’t need to be in that position but his squad selection made it so. Contextually a semi final is a very good tournament for England. Aside from Bellingham, Kane Rice and maybe Saka I don’t think our squad is that good and the latter two clearly weren’t fit throughout the tournament.0
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Turned it off as soon as the whistle went and I’m glad I did.
Watched Frankenstein (good film).
Reading all the guff that went on after would have sent me into orbit.
Tuchel fecked up with his subs and that cost us. Not sure if the players will play for him after that tbh.
Really proud of all of them. I thought we’d struggle to get out of the group.Won’t bother watching the play off game, I mean what is the fecking point of that ffs?
C’mon Spain, the whole world wants you to beat those bastards.5 -
The inability, even in the low block to put two or three passes together is a real problem, even deep, you can still retain the ball, watch Spain do it on Sunday.3
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Player potential and development is a varied thing though. If you ran this list in summer 2014 Harry Kane would have been on it, but as a player who had made 6 starts and 4 sub appearances in the 13/14 season thrown in in desperation because Soldado and Adebayor weren't at it. Very few would have looked at Kane on that list as necessarily even a future England player let alone an all-time goalscorer and captain but the next season he made his England debut in March after scoring 16 Premier League goals. Players can suddenly develop unbelievably in a short space of time or appear out of nowhere; who had Jamie Vardy and Rickie Lambert as future England players when they were dicking about in the lower leagues? I wouldn't worry too much about what's in the pipeline, unexpected players will appear, we just have to make the most of themcabbles said:
Yeah, should’ve clarified. Rebuild as in how to set up now Kane is approaching his time. Lots of potential and for some of the players you’ve mentioned, they’ve had more tournament experience which is a good thing, but look at the below. I genuinely don’t know how we overcome thisChris_from_Sidcup said:
I wouldn't say we need a rebuild at all. There's still a lot of young players there for 4 years time. Trafford, O'Reilly, Spence, Quansah, Anderson, Bellingham, Rogers, Mainoo, Saka, Gordon will all be under 30 at the next world cup. Konsa, Guehi and Rice won't exactly be past it either.cabbles said:Deep down I think we don’t have the talent/quality/experience as there has been some pretty ropey moments/performances during the tournament, and we’ve relied on Bellingham to pull us through and in a similar vein Kane (you could make the same argument about Argentina given Egypt and Switzerland), but it’s the context of last night that has me still seething. We got 30 minutes from a final and when we took the lead, the game was tight and our goal was class. The first few minutes of going ahead, keep it tight of course. But what followed was unforgivable and for me on the manager. Do I think on balance of the tournament we should be in the final, probably not. Argentina did deserve to go through last night, but it’s only after we completely imploded in how we set up
I concur with AFKA re watching a Charlton game. I messaged my mates before they equalised and said it’s reminding me of our league one playoff final against Orient. We led, Jones decided to shut up shop and we saw it out. The difference was we were playing Orient, not Argentina
I don’t see anyway back for Tuchel but it appears the FA is backing him. Kane has potentially got the 2028 Euros in him, but the next WC is beyond him. We’ve got absolutely no-one to replace him. A huge hole to fill
I think we’re probably now going to have to go through a period of a rebuild. What a shame for Bellingham given his age and talent. If we just had 2/3 more of his ilk then we’d be a force.
There's also players that didn't make it like Hall, Lewis-Skelly, Livramento, Foden, Palmer, Wharton, Alex Scott, plus emerging talents like Ngumoha and Dowman.
So i think in most areas of the pitch we will be fine but of course the biggest problem we have is (like you say) we don't have any half decent striker at all coming through to replace Kane.5 -
Spain gave a master class in how to play when you are in the lead against a French team that had so much flair and attacking talent and yet totally nullified our long-tunnel neighbours with slick passing and class in movement and thought.
England under Tuchel gave a master class in how not to play and make subs when you go 1 nil up against the world cup holders Argentina who had already shown they can come back from behind because they keep passing, moving and shooting especially if a team is naive enough not to man-mark Messi.
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That is extremely bleak.cabbles said:
Yeah, should’ve clarified. Rebuild as in how to set up now Kane is approaching his time. Lots of potential and for some of the players you’ve mentioned, they’ve had more tournament experience which is a good thing, but look at the below. I genuinely don’t know how we overcome thisChris_from_Sidcup said:
I wouldn't say we need a rebuild at all. There's still a lot of young players there for 4 years time. Trafford, O'Reilly, Spence, Quansah, Anderson, Bellingham, Rogers, Mainoo, Saka, Gordon will all be under 30 at the next world cup. Konsa, Guehi and Rice won't exactly be past it either.cabbles said:Deep down I think we don’t have the talent/quality/experience as there has been some pretty ropey moments/performances during the tournament, and we’ve relied on Bellingham to pull us through and in a similar vein Kane (you could make the same argument about Argentina given Egypt and Switzerland), but it’s the context of last night that has me still seething. We got 30 minutes from a final and when we took the lead, the game was tight and our goal was class. The first few minutes of going ahead, keep it tight of course. But what followed was unforgivable and for me on the manager. Do I think on balance of the tournament we should be in the final, probably not. Argentina did deserve to go through last night, but it’s only after we completely imploded in how we set up
I concur with AFKA re watching a Charlton game. I messaged my mates before they equalised and said it’s reminding me of our league one playoff final against Orient. We led, Jones decided to shut up shop and we saw it out. The difference was we were playing Orient, not Argentina
I don’t see anyway back for Tuchel but it appears the FA is backing him. Kane has potentially got the 2028 Euros in him, but the next WC is beyond him. We’ve got absolutely no-one to replace him. A huge hole to fill
I think we’re probably now going to have to go through a period of a rebuild. What a shame for Bellingham given his age and talent. If we just had 2/3 more of his ilk then we’d be a force.
There's also players that didn't make it like Hall, Lewis-Skelly, Livramento, Foden, Palmer, Wharton, Alex Scott, plus emerging talents like Ngumoha and Dowman.
So i think in most areas of the pitch we will be fine but of course the biggest problem we have is (like you say) we don't have any half decent striker at all coming through to replace Kane.
I had a look at our two most recent U21s squads, it doesn't get much better. The 'attackers' were:
Tyler Dibling
Tyrique George
Ethan Nwaneri
Romain Esse
Divin Mubama
Sam Amo-Ameyaw (who??)
Will Lankshear
Jamie Gittens
Tom Watson (who??)
The only actual strikers in that lot are:
Mubama, who last year played 28 games for Stoke and scored 5.
Lankshear, 46 games for Oxford, 12 goals.
The future signs are not promising.0 -
Spain are in the final without a massively wonderful striker, Oyarzabal, isn't for me a top tier striker, his club record isn't stella, but he works in the system, scores for Spain, and the 10 behind do a lot of the damage.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
That is extremely bleak.cabbles said:
Yeah, should’ve clarified. Rebuild as in how to set up now Kane is approaching his time. Lots of potential and for some of the players you’ve mentioned, they’ve had more tournament experience which is a good thing, but look at the below. I genuinely don’t know how we overcome thisChris_from_Sidcup said:
I wouldn't say we need a rebuild at all. There's still a lot of young players there for 4 years time. Trafford, O'Reilly, Spence, Quansah, Anderson, Bellingham, Rogers, Mainoo, Saka, Gordon will all be under 30 at the next world cup. Konsa, Guehi and Rice won't exactly be past it either.cabbles said:Deep down I think we don’t have the talent/quality/experience as there has been some pretty ropey moments/performances during the tournament, and we’ve relied on Bellingham to pull us through and in a similar vein Kane (you could make the same argument about Argentina given Egypt and Switzerland), but it’s the context of last night that has me still seething. We got 30 minutes from a final and when we took the lead, the game was tight and our goal was class. The first few minutes of going ahead, keep it tight of course. But what followed was unforgivable and for me on the manager. Do I think on balance of the tournament we should be in the final, probably not. Argentina did deserve to go through last night, but it’s only after we completely imploded in how we set up
I concur with AFKA re watching a Charlton game. I messaged my mates before they equalised and said it’s reminding me of our league one playoff final against Orient. We led, Jones decided to shut up shop and we saw it out. The difference was we were playing Orient, not Argentina
I don’t see anyway back for Tuchel but it appears the FA is backing him. Kane has potentially got the 2028 Euros in him, but the next WC is beyond him. We’ve got absolutely no-one to replace him. A huge hole to fill
I think we’re probably now going to have to go through a period of a rebuild. What a shame for Bellingham given his age and talent. If we just had 2/3 more of his ilk then we’d be a force.
There's also players that didn't make it like Hall, Lewis-Skelly, Livramento, Foden, Palmer, Wharton, Alex Scott, plus emerging talents like Ngumoha and Dowman.
So i think in most areas of the pitch we will be fine but of course the biggest problem we have is (like you say) we don't have any half decent striker at all coming through to replace Kane.
I had a look at our two most recent U21s squads, it doesn't get much better. The 'attackers' were:
Tyler Dibling
Tyrique George
Ethan Nwaneri
Romain Esse
Divin Mubama
Sam Amo-Ameyaw (who??)
Will Lankshear
Jamie Gittens
Tom Watson (who??)
The only actual strikers in that lot are:
Mubama, who last year played 28 games for Stoke and scored 5.
Lankshear, 46 games for Oxford, 12 goals.
The future signs are not promising.6 -
From all the interviews I’ve seen it feels like the players too were pretty confused by those subs.
Second game in a row he’s taken off Gordon when he’d have been our biggest threat on the counter.
More of a bottle job than Gareth in my eyes - he had done all the hard work but just didn’t have the balls to push for a second.7 -
Which is bizarre really as we're producing lots of talent elsewhere on the pitch.cabbles said:
Yeah, should’ve clarified. Rebuild as in how to set up now Kane is approaching his time. Lots of potential and for some of the players you’ve mentioned, they’ve had more tournament experience which is a good thing, but look at the below. I genuinely don’t know how we overcome thisChris_from_Sidcup said:
I wouldn't say we need a rebuild at all. There's still a lot of young players there for 4 years time. Trafford, O'Reilly, Spence, Quansah, Anderson, Bellingham, Rogers, Mainoo, Saka, Gordon will all be under 30 at the next world cup. Konsa, Guehi and Rice won't exactly be past it either.cabbles said:Deep down I think we don’t have the talent/quality/experience as there has been some pretty ropey moments/performances during the tournament, and we’ve relied on Bellingham to pull us through and in a similar vein Kane (you could make the same argument about Argentina given Egypt and Switzerland), but it’s the context of last night that has me still seething. We got 30 minutes from a final and when we took the lead, the game was tight and our goal was class. The first few minutes of going ahead, keep it tight of course. But what followed was unforgivable and for me on the manager. Do I think on balance of the tournament we should be in the final, probably not. Argentina did deserve to go through last night, but it’s only after we completely imploded in how we set up
I concur with AFKA re watching a Charlton game. I messaged my mates before they equalised and said it’s reminding me of our league one playoff final against Orient. We led, Jones decided to shut up shop and we saw it out. The difference was we were playing Orient, not Argentina
I don’t see anyway back for Tuchel but it appears the FA is backing him. Kane has potentially got the 2028 Euros in him, but the next WC is beyond him. We’ve got absolutely no-one to replace him. A huge hole to fill
I think we’re probably now going to have to go through a period of a rebuild. What a shame for Bellingham given his age and talent. If we just had 2/3 more of his ilk then we’d be a force.
There's also players that didn't make it like Hall, Lewis-Skelly, Livramento, Foden, Palmer, Wharton, Alex Scott, plus emerging talents like Ngumoha and Dowman.
So i think in most areas of the pitch we will be fine but of course the biggest problem we have is (like you say) we don't have any half decent striker at all coming through to replace Kane.
Surely within the academies of the top clubs there has to be another number 9 waiting in the wings? You'd imagine that after the glut of 10s and wingers in recent years, there will be kids idolising Kane and Haaland and wanting to play that role.0 -
What's interesting is that's exactly what the team were trying to do against Croatia with varying amounts of success. There was a lot of playing it round the back and then popping it up to Kane who had dropped deep and he'd try and spin and pass it on to Bellingham or Madueke running past into the space once the opposition had committed to the press. The whole point of this team was meant to be that it was set up to pick apart good teams on the counter. The players just shit themselves after taking the lead and Tuchel panicked when he saw their heads had goneRothko said:The inability, even in the low block to put two or three passes together is a real problem, even deep, you can still retain the ball, watch Spain do it on Sunday.3 -
From a cycling forum I’m on;I blame CoE and particularly Henry the VIII for the English team loss. The countries which won the cup in the past are all predominantly catholic. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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Someone is just peddling BS.iainment said:From a cycling forum I’m on;I blame CoE and particularly Henry the VIII for the English team loss. The countries which won the cup in the past are all predominantly catholic. Coincidence? I don't think so.5 -
This is excellent from Michael Cox on what happened.
"Same old England. On first viewing I thought Tuchel’s subs were disastrous. On second viewing, the retreat happened beforehand, a consequence of Argentina pushing on & England being exhausted. The three defensive subs did make sense. Analysis here…⬇️"
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7448592/2026/07/16/england-tactics-world-cup-argentina/?unlocked_article_code=1.yFA.e9hM.vLxupasc4rsE&source=athletic_user_shared_gift_article_copylink&smid=url-share-ta4 -
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It’s nonsense that you need successful club managers in international football. It’s a different game almost. You do need those that have been through an international tournament, at any level.redcarter said:Kindoncasella said:People banging on about the manager but who is Argentinas manager? Not exactly what you would call "elite" is he. Argentina players were better at dribbling and passing in tight areas last night, that was the difference for me.
Same for Spains manager too.5
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