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England v Argentina | World Cup Semi Final | 15 July 2026

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  • Charlton and on
    Charlton and on Posts: 1,204
    edited July 18
    shine166 said:

    This is actually a funny meme in a way. As obviously faked by some ultra left-wing loon. 

    Argentinians have bought their government's propaganda and continue to act as if Britain were to blame for the conflict and tragic events like this.

    There must some Argentinians that see through their lies? Surely? And rather than make pathetic and weak comments like 'oh that's a bit stupid' to their hen-pecked English husband, actually get angry with their own government. 

    Fancy having relatives on that warship and over 40 years later seeing millionaire footballers tubthump over the Falklands and use it as a motivational tool. 

    Are Argentinians actually more ignorant and gullible than Americans? Some achievement. 
    It's really weird to be picking on a married couple (that you don't even know) on the internet because one of them is from a country that you don't like. 

    Obviously they have a different perspective to you and it's probably more worldly.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,815
    I’m amazed that this hasn’t been shut down as it’s both a political discussion and is getting personal
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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,381
    Time for a chill pill lads 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,486
    edited July 18
    ct_addick said:

    The 1970 world cup was the first one when you could use  subs(two). You couldn't in 66 and Brazil suffered as Pele who was  sensational in '58' and '70'- injured after 1 game in '62' and was kicked out of the '66' WC because a weak ref was in charge and he was carried off.

    Alf Ramsey (correct spelling!) thought the game was won and took the tired Charlton off after 69 mins and as all senior folk know that released Beckenbaur to push forward and the rest is history as 2-0 up became 2-3 down and we have found ways to snatch defeat from the Jaws of Victory in Euros and World cups ever since.

    I believe 2026 was the worse capitulation of an England team by a manager who had the brass neck to criticise Southgate for not going for the Jugular against Italy. 

    "No regrets" is an Asinine comment  from Tuchel and beggar's belief.

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,486
    se9addick said:
    Time for a chill pill lads 

    I thought Charlton Life didn't do politics?

    I prefer an inquest on the football not a war between a right wing British Government and an Argentinian Military Junta 44 years ago.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 9,335
    se9addick said:
    Time for a chill pill lads 

    I thought Charlton Life didn't do politics?

    I prefer an inquest on the football not a war between a right wing British Government and an Argentinian Military Junta 44 years ago.
    We didn't invade, they did. 
    Our people needed help and I'm very glad our then PM went against the wishes of her own cabinet and sent our troops in to help our people.
    Those people still want to be ours and that's all that should matter here.

  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 19,000
    edited July 18
    shine166 said:

    This is actually a funny meme in a way. As obviously faked by some ultra left-wing loon. 

    Argentinians have bought their government's propaganda and continue to act as if Britain were to blame for the conflict and tragic events like this.

    There must some Argentinians that see through their lies? Surely? And rather than make pathetic and weak comments like 'oh that's a bit stupid' to their hen-pecked English husband, actually get angry with their own government. 

    Fancy having relatives on that warship and over 40 years later seeing millionaire footballers tubthump over the Falklands and use it as a motivational tool. 

    Are Argentinians actually more ignorant and gullible than Americans? Some achievement. 
    It's really weird to be picking on a married couple (that you don't even know) on the internet because one of them is from a country that you don't like. 

    Obviously they have a different perspective to you and it's probably more worldly.
    Just calling out her weak and pathetic comment on the banner.

    So worldly that she hasn't got a clue that her government lied to her and that every single person that died in that conflict is down to that government and with people still suffering from it, her current government uses it for posturing. 

    But yeah, it's 'stupid'. Not my fault he's too much of a wet wipe to pull her up on it.

    I'm at least worldly enough to tell the Argentinans to their face in clear Spanish that they are a bunch of hypocritical, brainwashed c##ts. 

    Anyways, you are right. I am getting a bit OTT. 

    I'd rather she had to explain to the very dignified Simon Weston why she doesn't strongly condemn the Argentinian players. 

    People on here can't have it both ways. Many would rightly condemn our players doing similar over WW2 to the Germans. I had a German girlfriend and lived there. I would have strongly condemed it. I am always able to disagree agree or pull up people I love and respect. 


    49 comments on this site and you've dedicated a decent portion of that to attacking a regular poster's wife. 

    We've had English people on this forum saying they didn't mind the banner. Strange you haven't attacked them.  

    Weirdo. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,486
    edited July 18
    se9addick said:
    Time for a chill pill lads 

    I thought Charlton Life didn't do politics?

    I prefer an inquest on the football not a war between a right wing British Government and an Argentinian Military Junta 44 years ago.
    We didn't invade, they did. 
    Our people needed help and I'm very glad our then PM went against the wishes of her own cabinet and sent our troops in to help our people.
    Those people still want to be ours and that's all that should matter here.


    I'm a history buff and I do know what took place thanks.
    So you and others want to talk about a war not the football.

    .........................

    FIFA just do what the White house say with this WC and the irony of Trump saying we have free speech in the USA means just a small fine will be given to Argentina for the banner as Infantino will brown nose the Orange man yet again.

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  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 5,074
    edited July 18
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,293
    edited July 18
    MarcusH26 said:
    There is an interesting point to be made. Where's the next England striker coming from? The likes of Delap aren't going to be up to it and okay Kane and Watkins will probably be around for the next Euros but there's not a lot out there. Plenty of exciting wide and attacking midfielder talent but not an out and out goalscorer. 
    There's probably a Toney or Watkins type - someone who'll be playing for a Championship club or something now and will push on next couple of years.

    Or some 17 year old in an academy who will suddenly break through. 

    4 years is a long time.

    May be nowhere near as good as Kane, of course, and we're back to Defoe/Crouch/Sturridge/Welbeck level strikers starting - decent Premier League players but not world class.
    Coming back to the "4 years is a long time" point, I had a look at the 2022 squad - Kalvin Phillips, Grealish, Foden, Ben White, James Maddison, Mason Mount - all still aged 30 or under now and not in the 2026 squad - only Foden was anywhere near I think.

    Meanwhile Morgan Rogers was on loan in the Championship, Anthony Gordon had just had his first regular season at Everton, Elliot Anderson had played one Premier League game, Spence was on loan from one Championship team to another, Nico O'Reilly signed his first professional deal a month later - four started the World Cup semi final, and O'Reilly started the other games.

    And 5 years rather than 4 but if after Euro2020 you'd have said 21 year old Jadon Sancho (just moved for £73m) will be done with England within a year, then unwanted by basically everyone at 26....
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 9,335
    se9addick said:
    Time for a chill pill lads 

    I thought Charlton Life didn't do politics?

    I prefer an inquest on the football not a war between a right wing British Government and an Argentinian Military Junta 44 years ago.
    We didn't invade, they did. 
    Our people needed help and I'm very glad our then PM went against the wishes of her own cabinet and sent our troops in to help our people.
    Those people still want to be ours and that's all that should matter here.


    I'm a history buff and I do know what took place thanks.
    So you and others want to talk about a war not the football.

    .........................

    FIFA just do what the White house say with this WC and the irony of Trump saying we have free speech in the USA means just a small fine will be given to Argentina for the banner as Infantino will brown nose the Orange man yet again.
    No, I wanted to talk about the Falkland Islanders who have to put up with this shit every four years because the Argentinians continue to be allowed to get away with dragging politics into football.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,587
    edited July 18
    The Argentinian players are entitled to their opinions but FIFA warned there should be no political gestures. As this was one I think a one game ban is reasonable but FIFA won't follow through with it of course. Maybe I am wrong but had we won and had a the Falklands are British banner, there would have been. It is the same as their bad behaviour with early fouls and indeed Paraguay's behaviour which the ref allowed but FIFA didn't take seriously. I think South Americans get a bad behaviour pass for some reason.

    But we shouldn't allow this to make us forget the biggest betrayal of all. We were told Tuchel wasn't Southgate. Southgate was a national hero who we wanted to leave because of his fear when going ahead. We were told Tuchel was totally different. The only difference was that he was worse. He had enough subs to put on fresh legs and also put on some offensive pace and give us a genuine outlet. He bottled it. That is as clear as day!
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,416
    edited July 18
    The comments from Argentina’s vice-president are really the worst sort of jingoism. 

    He and his ilk would be better directing their energies towards reflecting on the estimated 10,000 to 30,000 Argentine citizens who were tortured and ‘disappeared’ by Galtieri and the military dictatorship between 1976 and 1983.

    The USA did, of course, strongly support the military coup and junta, as they did similar regimes in Chile, Brazil and Uruguay.

    Trump’s backing for the banner stunt post-match is no surprise. The USA contend that they believe in free speech, but history demonstrates that they do not believe in democratically elected governments. 

    As others have said, the lickspittle Infantino will quickly fall into line. 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 29,685
    fenaddick said:
    I’m amazed that this hasn’t been shut down as it’s both a political discussion and is getting personal
    Yeah, probably for the best.
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